Topic: [ANN] Cyberdeck Poker - Flagship of the Enterra Bitcoin Poker Network (Read 4684 times)

I couldn't agree more. I believe the network itself made a huge mistake. They probably exchanged deposits for fiat and then they woke up to BTC at X times it's value. Imho CDP did a good job with their efforts to make their skin work but if the network operator screws up, what can they do? I think if CDP was a standalone room they could have succeeded. I chatted with them many times and, like others said, they were on top of player collusion, had some good skin exclusive promotions etc.

Honestly, networked poker is dead (imho). Over the years I've seen so many sites and networks (real money) go down and I was really hoping that this BTC network would succeed. The idea was great since you really need to pool players to have a decent number of players in Bitcoin but yeah, badly executed from the networks side.


LOL

Perhaps instead of checking the user's site and asking stupid questions you should read back a page and note what's been happening with the site.

If these questions are legitimate then they will be answered not. To a user on the previous page, the site is a scam in which they were caught.

I've checked your site and have two questions:

1. Do you require documents on withdraw? KYC?
2. Do you run the tournaments mentioned in OP? Like weekly guaranteed 5K? Because the tournament schedule on your site is empty.

Totally agree that there should be already at least one huge site and I think this did not happen because those who tried had not enough funds on hand to introduce it successfully.

However, from all what I have seen and read so far, I am confident that your project will succeed, if you have sufficient funds on hand or maybe you can also start an ICO or introduce your own gambling coin that can be traded.

And btw, Game Protect offers an unbiased Mediation service for disputes. This could surely help to establish a trustworthiness instead of having a for players in most cases worthless license.

Blacklizard, when I ask Enterra what, I ask for the name of the operator and where they are incorporated?

No offense, but one skin is not a network! A network has several skins and also at least a decent traffic and that was not the case with Cyberdeck Poker.

Yes, because the other "skins" were also run by Enterra. But your problem is that you can not sue or demand money from a name, you need to know the operator of this name or website.

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Seems you know more than I do. In anycase, Flagship, white-label or licensed, they didn't do a very good job.
I think any btc poker room should segregate player funds, and add at the very least $10K in btc equivalence just for player payout. Then they can decide how much money/investment and work they will put into marketing.

Losing funds of players is absolutely unacceptable.
Perhaps this is one of many reasons why bitcoin poker hasn't really evolved with the years. Should have been huge by now

Anyone who played on the Enterra network can see that the network itself handled the processing by simply looking at the withdraw emails. Those always came from the network / their domain and by looking at their network site the standard revenue share model for this particular network appears to be 50/50. Funky considering that the network doesn't even put any "network wide" promotions up but rather leaves (or should I say left) those up to each individual skin. This is not how you "pool players" and defeats the purpose of offering a networked solution in the first place.


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@game-protect

http://www.enterra-poker.com/pokernetworks
https://www.enterrabitcoinpoker.com/
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/enterra-bitcoin-poker-network-get-more-btc-from-online-poker-room-free-setup-1139633


You don't get it uh? CDP was the first skin on that network owned and operated by Enterra. Apparently they were meant to be the flagship room but there was basically zero intensive by the network to make the effort of all their skins work due to a lack of any good network wide promotions. Basically each skin put up their own tournaments and whatever and most used to set them up so they would only show on their own skin. CDP were the only ones out of the bunch of skins who tried to make this really work. The other skins were just running 1-5 chip freerolls and then hunted their players on their own cash game tables.

I know that because I used to play on 3 of those skins and they were all crap and their collusion at the cash tables vs the other players was just obvious and blunt.

So yeah to get back to the actual point of my initial reply. Anyone who still has a balance on ANY of their skins is owed by the network operator, Enterra.

Agreed!
but to be honest, its not so hard launching a btc casino/sportsbet/poker/dice brand. all you need is alittle bit of capital. The problem is, as you probably know as an affiliate, your expenses don't end there. A brand like theirs would need atleast 5 bitcoins in their wallet for payouts and another 20-30k dollars for advertising.
Ontop of that, they would need to be alittle bit unique, not the same as others.

they haven't done any of that.
So they lost whatever little they invested, backed their bags and hit the road.
If you had any money with them, you can try talking to enterra, but I seriously doubt they will take responsibility.

Do you have as well the domain name for this network?

What are the names of the other skins?


Common practice is that a skin has its own cashier, but there are also skins that use the network cashier.

If a skin does not settle with the network, he gets banned! The identity of the skin owner is known, so he also can get sued. It is not like you rob the network and that's it!

A skin might also has to make a security deposit.


Enterra what?

Enterra Poker delivers the software and do not state anything about a poker network!



So Cyberdeck Poker launched its own "poker network" and called themselves the flagship while their network had no other skins and therefore of course a very low traffic as a standalone site.

You should not start a Bitcoin poker site based on lies!

What is the name of this skin?

I would have thought it is the publicly proven Betcoin.ag scam!, but they are not a part of a network.  

So, this is a bad skin on a good network or just going through some growing pains?  Is anybody still playing here or have they all ran away?  How's the traffic? Most important: Does this site require a strict documentation verification process before withdrawal?  <----that's a deal breaker for me!  I'm already playing on a pretty good network on a skin which offers the fastest and easiest withdrawals I've ever seen....so....I'm open to play with new players....but not if it's harder than it has to be.

That is definitely not how its handled. To acquire a standalone licence is a 1 time payment of around $10-$20K for this kind of poker software, honestly, anymore than 10 and your just throwing your money away. Ontop of that it depends what kind of partnership deal you close. Typically these platforms charge like a % of net-rake (5-10% depending on volume). They do NOT manage the funds in anyway shape or form. That way they take no responsibility for player funds, regulations etc.

my opinion is that most of these brands actually go in with good intentions. But they have no idea what they are doing and when they realize they are at a lose of $20-30K and its time to pack their bags, they take whatever change is left inside. I guarantee you they didn't make millions.

On the other hand, why should a player care? His funds are frozen/stolen or whatever. Very sad! 

Like I've said, I know for a fact that the network was handling all player funds cross-cage processing (settlements between skins on the network. Common practice else every skin would end up owning money to the network or, like you've said, take deposits but don't settle with the network. Thus, networks always handle the processing unless a skin is at VERY good standing with them. Thus anyone who thinks he's owed money, contact Enterra.

No I think they just licensed the software from Enterra. Its not a white label, otherwise there should be more than half a player on the site. If they are gone, than you can bet your bottom dollar (bitcoin) that you wont be getting anything from them.

Its a shame. I'm in the process of building my own poker room for cryptos. All these crappy brands popping out of nowhere really pisses me off! they spend 0.0000001 btc on advertising. give away fake shit. and the moment anyone deposits, that's it theyre gone. Really disappointing for the industry. Players are just gonna stop trusting anyone.

Who did you talk to, how much are you owed in BTC?

I know for a fact that payouts have been processed, got mine a long time ago. However, the entire network has been pretty much dead for months. If you're still owed funds at this point then you're owed by Enterra since they do (or did) the entire processing for the network. The sites are just skins on the network just like on real money poker networks.

and finally they stole my money too

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Dug this thread up thinking that there might be some news to find into what was going on with it!
It was looking to be a decent site,is this project wrapped up or just taking a siesta?
Had some issues playing on it but they where pretty on top of the cheating from what I could see.

no Tweets or responses here... anyone still playing here?

I've been away for a bit. Has the traffic picked up at all here?

Hi All!

Some of you might have noticed that we've been a little quiet over the last two weeks.

The main reason is that we've been very busy behind the scenes development wise but we also issued an information lock-down 2 weeks ago after the account of a player got compromised. The incident promoted us to immediately shut down the cashier system on a network level while ensuring that the compromised account was an isolated issue, which it was.

However, the incident promoted us to set a temporary withdraw limit on the cashier while developing additional security features which will prevent such incidents from happening in the future. The first enhancement has been already pushed live, players now receive a withdrawal confirmation email to authorise (or cancel) their withdrawal. Players have 24 hours to confirm or deny a withdrawal request before it's being processed.

Over the next week or two we'll be introducing additional security features before the limits currently in place will be removed again. Those updates include:

• Make providing an email address mandatory. Status: testing, bugfix
• Withdrawal delayed for 24 hours with email notification (...click here if it wasn't you). Status: testing, bugfix
• Implement Email and/or Google 2-FA to client / cashier. Status: test, bugfix
• Lockable withdrawal address in player profile / cashier. Status: in progress

Please note, to withdraw chips exceeding the current daily limit please contact us via the HelpDesk. Requests exceeding the current daily limit are processed manually, for any amount, within 24 hours from Monday - Friday. Manual requests submitted during the weekend are processed Mondays.

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More News:

• The Bankroll Builders freeroll now runs 2x per day, Thursday through Sunday.
• The Sunday 500 GTD will be re-scheduled to run on Saturday from July 17th.
• A new weekly tournament, the Sunday 1 BTC Blowout, will run from July 24th with Satellites running from the 18th.
• The Sit & Go schedule has been completely revamped based on player feedback.
• The welcome bonus has been updated. Players now have 180 days to claim their bonus instead of 720 days.
• The starting times of some tournaments have been updated to compliment the Summer.
• Updated several pages of our website to reflect most recent changes to promotions and terms accurately.

See you at the tables!

~Sandy