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Topic: [ANN] ¤ DMD Diamond 3.0 | Scarce ¤ Valuable ¤ Secure | PoS 3.0 | Masternodes 65% - page 567. (Read 1260677 times)

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Even in the Hobonickel forum, which is a hybrid, the dev admitted that one day they would have to drop POW when not enough miners are their to keep it secure.

Interesting. I skimmed through Hobos thread and couldn’t find the reference to this.

Will appreciate if you provided the link if you have it handy.


Basically i did my part, you have been informed of the issues and i even included some possible ways to fix the issues.
So from here , do as you wish with the coin.
One last observation if the Dev Team Makes all of the important decisions about diamond , and leaves nothing up for debate, can you really call diamond a community coin.

All input is welcomed but lets not try to talk in definite words.
There might be different solutions to different problems, some better some worse.
We appreciate people doing their own research and reporting their findings.
Even after this bumpy ride of exchanging views you can rest assured that you’ve been listened to and your opinions and suggestions will be taken into account.
They won’t be the only ones and PoW only coin is not likely to happen, but it’s certainly good to have different point of view so well documented as yours. 
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regarding reactor and find out his IP with chainz node list
chainz can only display nodes that are visible to him because they connected to his wallet
he will never see reactor nor wont u......
to take part in DMD Diamond network need only 1 active peer.......

Dude that is even worse, now they don't even need to try any find the ip address.
You only have ~70 or so active on the network, that 1 active peer will be one of those.
So the 1 active peer is the only one that has to be blocked.
They could just copy your IPs from the block explorer , start a DDOS on the 1st one for ~30 minutes , and if the reactor staked, just mark that one off the list and drop down to the next one, and continue on until they find it. Also they don't have to use chainz, if they write their own , they can target the reactor's 1 peer even better.

so basical u suggest attack each single wallet in DMD Network in a attempt of what?
to make the reactor not stake for the duration of ur attack? (only a few days a month easy enought to mint its coins)
who said he have only 1 peer? i said 1 peer would be enought to take part in network but maybe he have 10 maybe 6  maybe 3
who said he have a static IP and dont change it every hour?
or maybe he run through a TOR IP masking?
i could add a lot more points..... of stuff noone knows and which make a DDoS attack very unlikely



what u try to explain is not a attack on reactor but a attack on a whole coin network by DDOS random nodes
because u cant identify reactor

reactor main purpose isnt stabilize the POS because we already run one of most stable POW/POS networks
ur claims of weakness are just claims out of nowhere with no new informations
we study all know weakness very carefull and did analyze the sources u present also long before u post them here
we are more suited against it than most other POS coins

never forget we run here a zero premine coin no dev have interest hype it and sell premine
we all are investors and have the same goal as all other long time investors to make DMD a successtory

in my opinion some reasons for posting like urs might be that this people run
profitable DMD mining rigs maybe FPGA powered
and hate POW reward reduction and try to get the coin rollout changed in the way they like it

this wont happen they should have checked DMD coinrolloutplan before invested into china FPGA

dont tell me the fairy tale  spending this time pillage our thread because of "i dont have DMD but i want to say u"

people have some personal interest that make em act
humans dont do stuff without reason

satisfy troll attention whore isnt ur motivation at least i hope so
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^^^^^^^ CONTRIBUTE^^^^^^^
         


Just sent my .2 BTC.  Put it to good use!
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Someone sent into the reactor additional 2,000 coins  Wink
 Stupid trolls do not understand the potential of this coin  Grin

Yup. It ll continue to grow. Do not forget that in February, the reactor was stalking only about 15 days or even less. So in March, the result ll be twice as better compared to February. Plus we ll be getting new payments into the reactor and 30% of staked amount stays in the reactor which increases the number of coins staking even more.

Good idea and great implementation results in a very nice result for cloud shareholders.
All I can say to naysayers is see the result. To people who consider buying shares/investing into the reactor I can say, yes, this is a pretty good idea IMHO.
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Someone sent into the reactor additional 2,000 coins  Wink
 Stupid trolls do not understand the potential of this coin  Grin

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Seeing here such activity trolls can immediately understand what they want.
Any new people who come here and see them perseverance tarnish Diamond readily understand that constantly write the same thing just so no one will.
But not for long, and soon a POW award will be reduced by 10 times.
All their attempts to idle chatter on the topic of security and total control will be dispelled by themselves.

One who understands a little crypto currency, can easily understand how a Diamond is now undervalued compared to other coins  Wink

I fully agree. But I have nothing against trolls or people with opposite opinions as long as these opinions are based on some solid ground. After all, we are here to discuss current progress, options and improvements related to DMD.  However, if the main argument is "DMD is doomed and all of you guys who use it are fools...." well, that s infantile and it s obvious these kind of trolls have a different agenda. That s why we have Popshot and his big club.

Its funny how no one cares about that 1200 dmd payment!

*wow, i see you have quite the history of cloud mining, i didnt think there was any money in it.

See Sherlock, those 1200 DMD were distributed to cloud mining shareholders as DIVIDEND on Feb 27. Now apologize to the community for being a troll. Smiley
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some ignorred user i got told ask how the reactor can have a 1190 DMD outgoing transaction

long before this question was asked i posted here in this thread at 27.02
that the first reactor payout to DMD Cloudmining shareholders was executed
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10603931

non of the contribution DMD will be ever touched
and POS earnings will be used 70% to payout towards DMD CLoudmining
shareholders and 30% to increase ammount of coins in reactor
(DMD contribution to reactor did come from cloud shareholders and payouts go to them)

this i too wrote before in last reactor update posting here in thread
that the reactor base amount got increased form 70250 to 70760 with that 30% stake reinvest
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10615447
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u are sadly mistaken, each layer can be penetrated ...
Delete this as I know will be done, again Argon18 is not me but just another concerned individual who speaks better than I do.
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Also opens DMD to a DDOS on the Reactor , hit the reactor with a DDOS attack , and your network will be stunned and if a few other things are done , a fork could be triggered so the reactor is on 1 fork and the rest of you on another.
As said earlier, what do you want to DDOS if you don’t know the IP of your target?
Even if the Reactor was taken down by some kick ass Anonymous ops, the network would not be ‘stunned’, because the Reactor is just an ordinary wallet not connected in any special way with the rest. If they transferred funds elsewhere they would have to gather coin age from the beginning which would give us time to implement contingency measures.


You want the answer to that , all someone has to do is watch your Block Explorer here:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dmd/#!network
and
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dmd/#!rich
To pinpoint your ip address and start their DDOS.
Take only checking it a few days to find it and zap it offline.

Now tell me that is impossible too.
Or do you want me to post a how to like the one for coin control so anyone can do it.


regarding group stake creating to less coin pile in network to compete

what happens is:
if POS diff is low lot pile able to mint below 30 days age and get split into two parts
(=creating more competition and increase POS difficulty)
if POS diff is high only very big coin pile mint below 30 days age
and above 30 days coin age small coin pile use group stake mechanism and get merged together
(=creating less competition and lowers POS difficulty)

one of the best selfadjusting POS system in industry
this together with high POS blocktime and hybrid pow/pos security
make the anounced POS attack vertor not useable on DMD Diamond

u cant gather shitload little old coin pile and try attack us
maybe that make u sad but this works great against pure POS coins
with fast POS blocktime and low POS difficulty because of not many wallets active

so better seek such coins to spread POS armagedon nighmare fairy tales

in my opinion u run some profitable DMD mining rig maybe FPGA powered
and u hate POW reward reduction and try to get the coin rollout changed in the way u like it

this wont happen

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regarding reactor and find out his IP with chainz node list
chainz can only display nodes that are visible to him because they connected to his wallet
he will never see reactor nor wont u......
to take part in DMD Diamond network need only 1 active peer.......
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buy silver!
Seeing here such activity trolls can immediately understand what they want.
Any new people who come here and see them perseverance tarnish Diamond readily understand that constantly write the same thing just so no one will.
But not for long, and soon a POW award will be reduced by 10 times.
All their attempts to idle chatter on the topic of security and total control will be dispelled by themselves.

One who understands a little crypto currency, can easily understand how a Diamond is now undervalued compared to other coins  Wink

I fully agree. But I have nothing against trolls or people with opposite opinions as long as these opinions are based on some solid ground. After all, we are here to discuss current progress, options and improvements related to DMD.  However, if the main argument is "DMD is doomed and all of you guys who use it are fools...." well, that s infantile and it s obvious these kind of trolls have a different agenda. That s why we have Popshot and his big club.

Its funny how no one cares about that 1200 dmd payment!

*wow, i see you have quite the history of cloud mining, i didnt think there was any money in it.
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Seeing here such activity trolls can immediately understand what they want.
Any new people who come here and see them perseverance tarnish Diamond readily understand that constantly write the same thing just so no one will.
But not for long, and soon a POW award will be reduced by 10 times.
All their attempts to idle chatter on the topic of security and total control will be dispelled by themselves.

One who understands a little crypto currency, can easily understand how a Diamond is now undervalued compared to other coins  Wink

I fully agree. But I have nothing against trolls or people with opposite opinions as long as these opinions are based on some solid ground. After all, we are here to discuss current progress, options and improvements related to DMD.  However, if the main argument is "DMD is doomed and all of you guys who use it are fools...." well, that s infantile and it s obvious these kind of trolls have a different agenda. That s why we have Popshot and his big club.

Also, I strongly suggest you put these people under ignore and do not pay attention to them at all. I kinda like this "this user is currently ignored" when dealing with some people.
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Seeing here such activity trolls can immediately understand what they want.
Any new people who come here and see them perseverance tarnish Diamond readily understand that constantly write the same thing just so no one will.
But not for long, and soon a POW award will be reduced by 10 times.
All their attempts to idle chatter on the topic of security and total control will be dispelled by themselves.

One who understands a little crypto currency, can easily understand how a Diamond is now undervalued compared to other coins  Wink

Wow, youve been on bct for around a year and half and 90% of your posts have been on this thread. dedication or what!
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DMD info: https://diamond-info.github.io/
Seeing here such activity trolls can immediately understand what they want.
Any new people who come here and see them perseverance tarnish Diamond readily understand that constantly write the same thing just so no one will.
But not for long, and soon a POW award will be reduced by 10 times.
All their attempts to idle chatter on the topic of security and total control will be dispelled by themselves.

One who understands a little crypto currency, can easily understand how a Diamond is now undervalued compared to other coins  Wink
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One last observation if the Dev Team Makes all of the important decisions about diamond , and leaves nothing up for debate, can you really call diamond a community coin.




The reactor was decided on by the dev team, this is not a community coin.  Im still wondering where all these coins came from and if they are all lent, where are all the members, dont they get a say?  How come it only seems like a few people are in this community?
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https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dmd/address.dws?dWPGAFSvqD5XB6qiEyxLtXLbyoZhh1XEKa.htm

created on the 27th

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dmd/address.dws?dXy7o5vdbHYhozeiNCWUyziJM8JaLYe35H.htm

payment on the 27th

Did a cloud miner get paid this?  That a big payment.

shouldnt all funds leaving the reactor be explained?
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I think its important for both sides to listen a little.  There isn't a single coin out there where there are no disagreements.  Go to the other forums and you will see a lot of the same stuff.   Only a few coins have gotten past that.  Those seem to be the ones that have achieved some level of acceptance in the marketplace.

To the DMD defenders - there are issues with this coin.  You don't have to admit it.  Eventually the issues get resolved or take their toll on the coin.  This coin is going nowhere unless someone adopts it as a currency for commerce.  Only commercial demand will prop this coin up once cloud mining has run its course.  POS alone is not enough no matter how high the percentage payout is.  You can payout 300% and it will attract only hoarders.  That is not a market that will be safe to invest in.  Anyone familiar with the baseball trading card market in the 1980s?  Gimmicks like Cloud Mining and the Reactor are only going to go so far.  When the novelty is used up we will still be faced with some way to keep the value of DMD growing.

You know I was not a fan of the Reactor.  I think stuff like that appeals only to the same people who hoard and circulate DMDs in a tight loop.  I really didn't like the idea of paying out a higher POS to Cloud Mining investors over everyone else.  If you think everyone putting all there eggs in that basket is a good idea then I strongly disagree.  The idea is to disperse the currency not collect it into one vault and hoard it.

In any case, be open minded.  Some people have a more direct way of expressing their thoughts.  So what?  If you want to be responsible for this coin or any coin, grow a thick skin.  That's what being responsible is all about.

To the critics - One thing at a time.  Some of your concerns are legitimate some are not so much.  The 51% attack thing was a popular threat for a number of coins.  Litecoin urged its miners not to use certain pools to avoid the possibility of a 51% attack.  There was no other solution.  It was purely voluntary.  Its no one's fault that Danbi's pool has the majority of the hash rate, except the miners.  I mined with Danbi and now I mine with donkeypool.  I have considered going back to mining solo which I did for months.  But at this point, I choose to support Donkeypool to shift my hashing away from the largest pool.  Other people should consider this option voluntarily as well.  Danbi's pool is great and Danbi himself is a stand up guy.  But Donkeypool has given me no problems for over a month now and I get paid the same amount. 

There is an expression that's been used in US politics that I like for just about all occasions, "First do no harm".  In other words, try to be positive in your criticisms because we all want the same thing - to be successful and make some money.  Hurting the value of the coin benefits no one.  I get where you are coming from but I also think some good has been done by the DMD developers. 

I wish everyone would just work together.  Unless this stuff gets resolved I think the DMD mining population will continue to drop until this coin fades out of existence.

Just my 2 cents worth.
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No, whenever Ive asked a serious question or even utahjohn you guys attack us.  
Sorry to make you feel so special.

you say the reactor is frozen for a year, but someone received a 1200 dmd payment.  

I won't even start looking into if it's true. You throw word 'payment' as if there was some fraud going on. Once we're at it, if it's a payment, who is it for?

How many coins are being created/day.

Why don't you calculate it yourself. You know number of coins, number of days and amount of interest per year.

Here are some facts they ignore.
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.....

I already addressed all these points here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10626109 .

If you were even bothered to read before posting we would avoid so much unnecessary work.

why do you only delete our posts and this post, which is off topic, doesnt get deleted?

What? I delete your posts because you are banned on this thread. You've done enough damage with your FUD-ing, this had to stop.  

please explain this behavior from your "foundation member"
I have no strong opinion about it. Cryptonit has all the rights to protect his financial privacy and no obligation to reveal his personal wallet.
It's a matter between Cryptonit and Utahjohn I'll let them sort this on their own through PM.

what was the reply that was deleted?

It was utahjohn insinuating cryptonit is a paedophile. Sorry but such vile accusations have no place here.


There was another post I deleted too fast "what do you do for the foundation?" .. I delete your posts! Smiley
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I thought the reactor was locked for a year.  https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dmd/address.dws?dWPGAFSvqD5XB6qiEyxLtXLbyoZhh1XEKa.htm

who got paid 1200 dmd?

*btw  Ive gave both you negative trust ratings

quick delete my posts

WITH PLEASURE!  beacuse you are FUDster who cannot hold normal conversation - I've seen enough of your 'valuable input' from broad unsubstantiated accusations of FRAUD to some wild assumptions . you are banned on this thread.

why wont you answer my questions

I'm not responsible for the Reactor so can't make any comment.

diamond isnt rare if your staking is creating that many coins

Deal with it.
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You do realize that the 75k DMD in the reactor will be worth a whopping  USD10500 at today's rate?  There just is not enough involved here to be concerned about and my guess is the most proficient hackers will spend their time stealing credit card data which they can sell for a lot more than DMDs - and when they sell it doesn't drive the price down!
Unsecure is Unsecure, don't care if it is $5 million or $5.
Previous posts bring up more issues that just the reactor.
Hybrid nature opens up 2 attack windows , does not protect from both as some like to think.
ON POW side too easy for someone to get 51% of mining.

i am just pointing out the issues your community faces, fixing those issues are simple , but not if the community ignores those issues. Consider these posts the check engine light on your coin.
Waiting too late to see the truth, is throwing money away, but like i said your choice, i made mine.

By the way , simple fixes are such ,
Get rid of your POS side, it is just too weak the way your coin is designed to survive any decent attacks.
Embrace your POW side as it is the stronger of the 2 and unaffected by your low coin count.
To Counter the 51% attack issue , redesign diamond to merge mine with other coins,
easy choice would be groestl coin , harder would be Lite & Doge, but either would solve this issue.

Those are simple answers to easy issues that are being ignored.
Make those changes and your coin may even survive & prosper.

Sidenote:
Removing the POS side also removes the coin control issue, since POW coins do not use coin control.



I don't think you know what you're taking about. I think you contradict yourself.
First you say easy to take over PoW and PoS, and here you suggest to remove PoS, the second protection.

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it is just too weak the way your coin is designed to survive any decent attacks
Pardon me, not sure when you joined this thread but before everything was so rosy as it is now, we had really hard time, attack after attack.. so please spare me your opinions how weak we are because we have tested our mettle already.  

PoW has no future as the only main security provision.
I would say it would be suicidal to switch it to PoW only.

Merged mining is still on the table but only when PoW is a part of the security basket - PoW PoS PoN.
On the side note even etherum will be PoS only coin (after PoW phase).

What you want is a completely different coin. We see strongly a multi protection protocols as the way forward and not going back years as if sustainability, ease of use, eco friendliness were of no importance.

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Reasons , POS will not protect a coin if it has under a few billion coins,
But yet they push it being rare as adding value, it is a danger to POS security.
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Where did you get his from?
You Know Where :
hashProofOfStake <= [Coin-age] x [Target]
[Coin-age] = [amount of coins] x [days in stake]
Coin-Days = Coin-age * block size.
weight = coin age * balance
Sorry, I fail to see the point here. What do you mean by “pushing it being rare” .. the coin mechanics were well known to everyone who opened the ANN thread. It’s clear what the rollout plan is. Why would we change anything now, especially something defacing like adding more coins. There are plenty of 100% PoS coins with small amount of coins, don’t they feel threatened? Could you check on their threads as well please? Why do you think your solution is the best one?


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Yo Genius , i am Argon18 , UtahJohn is another person , are you 2 daft to understand that!

I siad:
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Obtaining 50k is not that trivial. It's unlikely someone spent so many BTC to attack just for lolz (losing their own invested money in the process).  
Reactor is hidden well enough and finding out who holds keys or knows the IP address would be much hassle.
As mentioned before, Diamond due to its mechanics is much better secured (naturally) than so many other pure fast staking PoS coins. I do not believe we are at the top of the hit list, even if such list exists.
It's the same argument I voiced today. You could have easily read that and responded to, but you didn’t and preferred to keep using your own. That’s why I fear we might be at disagreement with each other.

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Not Fear, Facts which are being Ignored.
Let me inform you of some human nature, criminals will go after an easy target of lessor value, before going after a higher value with more protection. Homes & Banks are robbed because they are easier targets than Fort Knox.
If you talk about value, how much ‘value’ would their coins have? Do you think people would suddenly rush to buy DMD if they learnt about what happened? This also implies there would be no reaction from our part.
Buying 70k is not easy but selling such amount quickly is even harder.

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You want the answer to that , all someone has to do is watch your Block Explorer here:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dmd/#!network
and
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dmd/#!rich
To pinpoint your ip address and start their DDOS.
Take only checking it a few days to find it and zap it offline.

Now tell me that is impossible too.
Or do you want me to post a how to like the one for coin control so anyone can do it.
Hmm… by looking at this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-it-possible-to-track-ip-address-from-block-explorer-165786 I think you can't. And even if you could how would you know it was the real IP not some of the masking layer, easily switchable.


I also don’t feel you answered some of my questions and avoided the rest.

Hope we can find common understanding.
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