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legendary
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sr. member
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Nope, the way I see it, the route for you to raise those 500 BTC should really be simple.

1. You get reputable escrower(s) in place.

2. You do your ICO successfully and raise your 500 BTC.

3. You deliver on that DM integration.

4. Escrower releases the funds

5. Hookers and Blow all round.

SIMPLES.

We appreciate your suggestion and we will keep it in mind. I ask you to wait until the weekend for our final decision. If our decision does not please you, you are free not to invest in us.

Thanks

I want to invest but your reticence in terms of escrow and the excuse about anonymity is just a bit strange.
sr. member
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Hi Guys,

I thought i would share an idea i have and maybe people can give their feedback if it would work. I 'll try to be as brief as possible

First of all even free markets have regulations. The question is to find the right ones....

There are 2 problems to my understanding
1. Because of the 500 BTC cap the fastest and highest investors will take up most of the coins. This will create an oligarchy of people that own the coin from ICO launch.
On the contrary, the more different people join the ICO the more will have an interest thus more noise will be generated and more value the coin and bigger success in the long run.

2. If ICO investors throw and sell (even just their bonus amount) in the market that means about 2-5 million in the market as a supply from Day 1!!!
This will create an unevenly huge supply. The demand will not be able to cope with that because it will be in the early stages no matter how much you market/advertise it.
Equilibrium of supply & demand (at least in the early stages) is the best bet for longevity and success of this project.


So what i am proposing is:
For the true investors that believe in this project to create a rule of slow releasing of bought (Through ICO) Ebitz.
This would be 2% each day after official launch in exchanges. Which means in the period of 30 days someone will have 60% of his bought Ebitz (during ICO)

This will gain some very important things:
1. People that just want to pump and dump will not invest and only true investors with vision will invest
2. There will be a maturing phase during which people will get to know and trust Ebitz
3. There will be a conrolled supply in the early stages to offset small demand gradually increasing to meet people's needs


Imagine a person being born today and tomorrow to have to be 30 years old with responsibilities...
There is a reason everything happens gradually

This is me being brief Smiley ...


PS. True freedom comes through commitment. Even if you were the last person on earth you would still not be truly free. You would just be alone...
legendary
Activity: 840
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Nope, the way I see it, the route for you to raise those 500 BTC should really be simple.

1. You get reputable escrower(s) in place.

2. You do your ICO successfully and raise your 500 BTC.

3. You deliver on that DM integration.

4. Escrower releases the funds

5. Hookers and Blow all round.

SIMPLES.

We appreciate your suggestion and we will keep it in mind. I ask you to wait until the weekend for our final decision. If our decision does not please you, you are free not to invest in us.

Thanks
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 252
Nope, the way I see it, the route for you to raise those 500 BTC should really be simple.

1. You get reputable escrower(s) in place.

2. You do your ICO successfully and raise your 500 BTC.

3. You deliver on that DM integration.

4. Escrower releases the funds

5. Hookers and Blow all round.

SIMPLES.
legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
DeadBirdzz, as we said there are different views in our group and we are aware of the disadvantage that would result in not using an escrow. But because of the nature of our proposal there is a certain disquiet to use an intermediary who keeps the funds. Having the use of Ebitz from the first moment in the DW can generate us many enemies, we dont want to be the next Ross Ulbricht. We know that SebastianJu or Lutpin are totally reliable but we are not sure that our plan, for the scope that it may have, is to everyone's liking. Let's hope it has been understood. We do not expect that everyone think like us, it's just our look. Each one must do their own risk assessment.

It is great to see this amount of external companies back up the Ebitz project and they even have a dark market inside, so big win.

I think that one of the biggest advantage of this project is that they are focusing on the real use of the coin and the ways to attrack more money/investments. This is great, a product to be successful must know how to sell itself. Like Steve Jobs who just sell the ideas of Dennis Ritchie or Thomas Edison with Nikola Tesla. The industry only takes existing ideas/tech (Zcash) and improves them and makes them attractive so that their use becomes massive. (Ebitz).

My opinion about the limit is that the best is remove it, the investors will decide if this project collect 100-500-1000 btc, it is an open sale.

Thank you for your perspective on our project.

Sorry, no, I am not buying this crap about your security and an intermediary keeping the funds.

Having an escrow is key.

That DM spiel can all be true but it could also be all a bunch of hot air.......

Also, if that were the case, why wouldn't that Dark Market that wants to use EBITZ give you the funds directly themselves if they are that interested?

If they are that concerned about their security and that of their customers, they would do that in a heart beat....


It's a pity you think so, but we knew from the beginning that our proposal would not like everyone.

About the dw, It is quite the opposite, it is precisely because we have the contacts and the agreements that we need to create a proposal open to the public to give legitimacy to Ebitz. We do not want to create a closed sale like it was the case of Zcash but an open proposal for any user, that is the nature of Ebitz. It would do no good to create a closed proposal, it would have no use.

If you have another question feel free to ask here or if want to be in our slack please send me a pm with your email.

Bye
newbie
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For me to invest, i need

  • a cap of 500 BTC

  • reputable escrow

Count me out otherwise. DOnt know why people are obsessed with increasing the ICO cap. lower ICO cap means higher potential to grow you noobs. And the OP clearly said that 500 BTC is enough why increase it.
I agree as I have seen some overbought ICOs have not produced the desired results.Why invite more funds when they are not required?With small cap ICO will be over much earlier giving time to devs to start working on development earlier.It also ensure only serious investors involvement in the project
Not to mention the fact that when some new project requires 1000, 2000 BTC or >, people are reticent, thinking it is SCAM, Ebitz team congratulations by the planning.

Same here. 500 btc cap for me to invest.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 252
DeadBirdzz, as we said there are different views in our group and we are aware of the disadvantage that would result in not using an escrow. But because of the nature of our proposal there is a certain disquiet to use an intermediary who keeps the funds. Having the use of Ebitz from the first moment in the DW can generate us many enemies, we dont want to be the next Ross Ulbricht. We know that SebastianJu or Lutpin are totally reliable but we are not sure that our plan, for the scope that it may have, is to everyone's liking. Let's hope it has been understood. We do not expect that everyone think like us, it's just our look. Each one must do their own risk assessment.

It is great to see this amount of external companies back up the Ebitz project and they even have a dark market inside, so big win.

I think that one of the biggest advantage of this project is that they are focusing on the real use of the coin and the ways to attrack more money/investments. This is great, a product to be successful must know how to sell itself. Like Steve Jobs who just sell the ideas of Dennis Ritchie or Thomas Edison with Nikola Tesla. The industry only takes existing ideas/tech (Zcash) and improves them and makes them attractive so that their use becomes massive. (Ebitz).

My opinion about the limit is that the best is remove it, the investors will decide if this project collect 100-500-1000 btc, it is an open sale.

Thank you for your perspective on our project.

Sorry, no, I am not buying this crap about your security and an intermediary keeping the funds.

Having an escrow is key.

That DM spiel can all be true but it could also be all a bunch of hot air.......

Also, if that were the case, why wouldn't that Dark Market that wants to use EBITZ give you the funds directly themselves if they are that interested?

If they are that concerned about their security and that of their customers, they would do that in a heart beat....

legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
For me to invest, i need

  • a cap of 500 BTC

  • reputable escrow

Count me out otherwise. DOnt know why people are obsessed with increasing the ICO cap. lower ICO cap means higher potential to grow you noobs. And the OP clearly said that 500 BTC is enough why increase it.
I agree as I have seen some overbought ICOs have not produced the desired results.Why invite more funds when they are not required?With small cap ICO will be over much earlier giving time to devs to start working on development earlier.It also ensure only serious investors involvement in the project

Yes, I think like you. I am not in favor of an ICO without limits. From the beginning the idea was to limit it, so that it does not end up overbought as it has happened in many recent projects. Maybe one option is to raise the limit or leave it like this.

when early twitter campaign is work
and how much reward follow twitter campaign

For the twitter campaign we are using TVE (https://theviralexchange.com/), we set each campaign and we see his evolution. In the most expensive campaign, we paid 40 viral points per action.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
when early twitter campaign is work
and how much reward follow twitter campaign
legendary
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Merit: 1026
Hire me for Bounty Management
For me to invest, i need

  • a cap of 500 BTC

  • reputable escrow

Count me out otherwise. DOnt know why people are obsessed with increasing the ICO cap. lower ICO cap means higher potential to grow you noobs. And the OP clearly said that 500 BTC is enough why increase it.
I agree as I have seen some overbought ICOs have not produced the desired results.Why invite more funds when they are not required?With small cap ICO will be over much earlier giving time to devs to start working on development earlier.It also ensure only serious investors involvement in the project
legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
DeadBirdzz, as we said there are different views in our group and we are aware of the disadvantage that would result in not using an escrow. But because of the nature of our proposal there is a certain disquiet to use an intermediary who keeps the funds. Having the use of Ebitz from the first moment in the DW can generate us many enemies, we dont want to be the next Ross Ulbricht. We know that SebastianJu or Lutpin are totally reliable but we are not sure that our plan, for the scope that it may have, is to everyone's liking. Let's hope it has been understood. We do not expect that everyone think like us, it's just our look. Each one must do their own risk assessment.

It is great to see this amount of external companies back up the Ebitz project and they even have a dark market inside, so big win.

I think that one of the biggest advantage of this project is that they are focusing on the real use of the coin and the ways to attrack more money/investments. This is great, a product to be successful must know how to sell itself. Like Steve Jobs who just sell the ideas of Dennis Ritchie or Thomas Edison with Nikola Tesla. The industry only takes existing ideas/tech (Zcash) and improves them and makes them attractive so that their use becomes massive. (Ebitz).

My opinion about the limit is that the best is remove it, the investors will decide if this project collect 100-500-1000 btc, it is an open sale.

Thank you for your perspective on our project.
hero member
Activity: 809
Merit: 1002
DeadBirdzz, welcome!

As we said before, its a different situation for us. We use escrow two times (always with great results), first with SebastianJu and now with Lutpin for the signature campaign. But there are a small movements and we use our own private funds (we are not linked to them in anyway). We will give our final words during the weekend.

Bye


The way I see it, you people seem obviously serious about hitting all the targets you have set yourselves.

So if you guys are actually the real deal, you should have no issues agreeing to an escrow, irrespective of the amounts being raised.

In fact, having a independent and reputable escrow(s) can only help you achieve your goals.

To me, it is really a no-brainer.

Yes, but our doubt about using it is not the fear of not doing what we say. The problems are different.

Our proposal is risky (-talking about the safety of our members-, our anon is really important) but we know that if we decide to dont use an escrow we will receive a much smaller amount of funds. There are many voices in our group. During the weekend we will make the announcement about the escrow and if we remove the limit or not (maybe an option could be to increase it).

Bye and thanks for your input

sorry, but I don't get those concerns about anonymity....

You can use an escrow and still be anonymous........



I agree, you do not need to give your full details when you choose to go via an escrow route.

So please, dont use this BS reason.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 252
DeadBirdzz, welcome!

As we said before, its a different situation for us. We use escrow two times (always with great results), first with SebastianJu and now with Lutpin for the signature campaign. But there are a small movements and we use our own private funds (we are not linked to them in anyway). We will give our final words during the weekend.

Bye


The way I see it, you people seem obviously serious about hitting all the targets you have set yourselves.

So if you guys are actually the real deal, you should have no issues agreeing to an escrow, irrespective of the amounts being raised.

In fact, having a independent and reputable escrow(s) can only help you achieve your goals.

To me, it is really a no-brainer.

Yes, but our doubt about using it is not the fear of not doing what we say. The problems are different.

Our proposal is risky (-talking about the safety of our members-, our anon is really important) but we know that if we decide to dont use an escrow we will receive a much smaller amount of funds. There are many voices in our group. During the weekend we will make the announcement about the escrow and if we remove the limit or not (maybe an option could be to increase it).

Bye and thanks for your input

sorry, but I don't get those concerns about anonymity....

You can use an escrow and still be anonymous........

legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
DeadBirdzz, welcome!

As we said before, its a different situation for us. We use escrow two times (always with great results), first with SebastianJu and now with Lutpin for the signature campaign. But there are a small movements and we use our own private funds (we are not linked to them in anyway). We will give our final words during the weekend.

Bye


The way I see it, you people seem obviously serious about hitting all the targets you have set yourselves.

So if you guys are actually the real deal, you should have no issues agreeing to an escrow, irrespective of the amounts being raised.

In fact, having a independent and reputable escrow(s) can only help you achieve your goals.

To me, it is really a no-brainer.

Yes, but our doubt about using it is not the fear of not doing what we say. The problems are different.

Our proposal is risky (-talking about the safety of our members-, our anon is really important) but we know that if we decide to dont use an escrow we will receive a much smaller amount of funds. There are many voices in our group. During the weekend we will make the announcement about the escrow and if we remove the limit or not (maybe an option could be to increase it).

Bye and thanks for your input
full member
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Your coin is looking good. I'll be watching!
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 252
DeadBirdzz, welcome!

As we said before, its a different situation for us. We use escrow two times (always with great results), first with SebastianJu and now with Lutpin for the signature campaign. But there are a small movements and we use our own private funds (we are not linked to them in anyway). We will give our final words during the weekend.

Bye


The way I see it, you people seem obviously serious about hitting all the targets you have set yourselves.

So if you guys are actually the real deal, you should have no issues agreeing to an escrow, irrespective of the amounts being raised.

In fact, having independent and reputable escrow(s) can only help you achieve your goals.

To me, it is really a no-brainer.

legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
DeadBirdzz, welcome!

As we said before, its a different situation for us. We use escrow two times (always with great results), first with SebastianJu and now with Lutpin for the signature campaign. But there are a small movements and we use our own private funds (we are not linked to them in anyway). We will give our final words during the weekend.

Bye
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 252
Since SebastianJu was the escrow for your "bought" Extrabyte account, why not use him again?

Also, maybe one of the conditions for the funds to be released should be the actual use of EBITZ by one of those DM since you seem pretty certain that this is in the bag.

legendary
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
@Dev

I cannot found any information around the bounties... It is written that there are bounties for translations, signatures, etc. but i don't found the information on BCT nor on the website. How much coins are allocated for translations etc. Is there a BCT thread for the signatures?

Hi,

Well normally the peoples contact us with different proposal (marketing, translations, etc)..about the translations we have fixed price of 40 usd on btc for each one. About the signature campaign, the link is the first post too, but here you have: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ebitz-signature-campaign-stopped-1682519 For this task we are working with Avirunes for the management of the campaign and with Lutpin as the escrow (we have already sent him the funds - 4 BTC - to support the vast majority of the payments in the campaign. In case of exceeding, since they are weekly payments, the extra funds will be immediately sent to Lutpin).

Bye
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