Topic: ⚡[ANN]⚡ ▐░Espers [ESP]░▌▐░PoW/PoS░▌▐░HMQ1725 Algo░▌ ▐░New Features░▌ - page 649. (Read 924219 times)

You can't sell at 1 SAT now.
If you wanna sell at 1 SAT, you are automatically classified as a holder :-D

Also at 1 sat each, people having this coin as free will definitely sell it if they're not for this coin in the long term since selling it at 1 sat each will still give you some 3 BTC 'free'.

i got in late and was not able to participate in the giveaway . and the faucet funds are for distribution and not mine. so i am mining also.but  i love spending time making things and soon i hope things change for the better!

Yeah, there is no way to capture the giveaway cheaters (it was free to begin with) if they know how to hide. Also, anyone can just go register accounts in different places with free wifi so those types can't even be detected.

I'm pretty happy just holding my 300 mil, plus the 3~4 mil or so I've mined so far with just my CPU. I found another block last night. Solo mining.

for honest and good people they dont have a high level of delinquent thoughts on how to screw the next guy they think in a whole different level of how to help and make things better for the next guy! unfortunately the next guy has a friend that is not on that level and would prefer to screw someone at any cost just to have a personal satisfaction of screwing someone indifferently of who it is ! and any crypto is a heavenly playgrounds for ILL intentions .once brutally immersed is when unfortunately they have to deal with those bad people and learn how to deal with them ! learning is awesome.... im still in school myself or should i say still!!!!!!!!

Well i think that it could be very much overwhelming to do, but i know that there is a way that is being developed.
it will be more efficient and not consider so much work hours from devs. and i know for a fact that devs appreciate all the help they get from community.

So anyone know any android and/or ios wallet coders that would be interested in this project?

next time devs should check all participants more carefully
crypto is a wild west

i doubt we will ever be able to fully stop a cheater or cheaters and thieves! But the future holds systems that will make it very hard and not worth the effort to cheat!

I think that idea here is not to prevent current dump. those people will do it, but to prevent that they can't do same cheating in future giveaways.

Well that depends on how you view the coin , for me there is already actual usage , how real is 0.63 btc and various other coins

So what, let them dump. It allows others that missed the giveaway to get in cheap. It also puts coins on the exchanges for trading. Its all good.

for the normal user there are a few different ways of issuing dhcp leases.... even mobile leases  have a few different ways of being issued, for the business end and a few higher end users there is static address lease where the address never changes and remains the same for DNS resolution. and a few other services that require a stable and the same non changing IP. there are a few work arounds but..... indifferently of whatever the ip is it is given by a ISP, the TOS are very clear on abuse! and with proof of the abuse of their customer they will assure resolution of the contract!
Isp also do somthing very nifty that is called packet monitoring . they are normally required by law to register and maintain at least a 30 day register of all the different ip destination  addresses generated by each lease not by IP because as mentioned they do change but the leasee is always the same.... in that log there is two entries that make my heart giggle!    originating ip and destination along with times and so fourth! these records are private but if asked and depending on the severity they do offer them quit easily!
the ISP do not care  what was done  with their leased internet untill it is considered abusive with proof....... they would not have a clue in the world what a espers or BTC actually is, other then on personal knowledge of that person but as a company they are simply interested in governing their property! they own the line not us! we simply lease it no matter what kind of connection we have!


if you would like a small example of abuse i will paste a few lines here just to show what is being looked at?

ATT EDIT----

this is a very small partial of the info i am retrieving for each  visit to the faucet....

ID               IP                        QTY                                     ESP ADDY                              timestamp
23      107.151.136.194    287.42203051    EdRjPqmfwpBbULZv1GGrTbyZArZLJVguXa          2016-05-01 11:30:34
835    107.151.136.194    146.07762665    ERHT1CsHRP41Zb2E9RoeCHMU7sFS2yXVjw        2016-05-04 02:50:49
561    107.151.136.194    137.42028148    EQCy7mK7iAvrPkg52CSZNWS4K6RFnVx9Pu         2016-05-03 02:30:27
68      107.151.136.202    279.06417905    EM959P1VMoJnoD8JbSMs7aoacXem78gYog        2016-05-01 12:38:27
556    107.151.136.202    182.3893146      EgVFHsmXswYJ3mViq294MYXFuYzixwEeSC         2016-05-03 02:27:37
856    107.151.136.202    228.20674686    EHZRKcVdaRofTSGvYMFcfcPZz2nKqW2Y6n         2016-05-04 03:05:31
664    107.151.136.210    138.58401813    ERwsiVm4YCG88qoGhBBuNa1m4HZdASxVd2        2016-05-03 04:46:55
989    107.151.136.210    257.13525021    Eaabrv31RLQPG7NgcxAqfi22arTh9uXkWX            2016-05-04 05:40:28
39      107.151.136.218    285.35675265    Ec7pBE2gq7eouy9X1J7icsgfjeq8Y5d3DR             2016-05-01 12:27:04
858    107.151.136.218    143.26999823    EYhJJ7A9ZD6AdrbUk26Akbc8j6vdPUtB1M            2016-05-04 03:07:38
559    107.151.136.218    155.75709101    EZGfujooCdA1Wh54Hr487iiZptP6p3sj4R               2016-05-03 02:28:46
185    107.151.142.114     222.59433507   EJRtZmVLUCyk76QQn2VdRpyNfw5GuSkDLX          2016-05-01 13:15:04
645    107.151.142.114     225.44527574   EYuVBXhmhnRomx7Z5bjAefm1gfARUzxcfF            2016-05-03 03:45:39
943    107.151.142.114     151.9577544     EMwCe8gbyJwuV8BPEeTJn16FgaExJ76gQN          2016-05-04 04:53:31
40      107.151.142.122     223.98266011   EgJaJptqVZBV9sWXFJXUMsn9D6DoZgUhiP           2016-05-01 12:27:35
667    107.151.142.122     215.58635412   EXuznJNhx77KBAZgJQxZH2Gsmm865Ljyj8            2016-05-03 04:49:13
715    107.151.152.210     142.15757255   EavaB5BAbRt7FLPDEsQhkAP2qmMrVWMWHQ        2016-05-03 05:38:12
175    107.151.152.218     205.77599063   EdTn8nR4tyFSpt7wkJBkpNpvxeebjDE9me             2016-05-01 13:13:32
672    107.151.152.218     219.4214183     EW4DbQAK3YGAd5PNaTnY9MpCjXAKK8BtDo         2016-05-03 04:54:05

first= look at the ip
the starting 107.151 never changes the following is a simple address assignment that will change upon lease renewal so very obvious that will change but now look at the timestamps and the date  ! it is very obvious that this is one of the several that is doing the cheating!

i user 8 different TOR & Proxy lists and have found this ip cluttered all over the place as a tor and a relitive proxy!
please make your own conclusions!

It seems it'll take a while before the price increases due to the large sell orders in Yobit and Novaexchange. Once we get past the 1 sat, people will then again sell them at 2 sats. Until we can have actual usage for this coin, it'll have a hard time in growing.

Wow, Charlie Lee following Espers twitter account is awesome.

dynamic ips means you can easily change yours by restarting the router (some ISPs have persistent IPs, some change every time).
and you old one will be assigned to someone else... which probably doesn't know what ESP is, still it's another person ;-)

And address using same ip will be the same person

i am not sure about who this is but i am also having a huge attempt to pull on the faucet i have registered every ip address that has accessed the faucet and i am also taking precautions.!  but in the time between then and for now i am making a nice data base of all wallets used and their respecting espers wallet/ip with the fact that the faucet is getting hit so hard with more then 400 draws a day i have to seriously put serious math skills to work and have  glasses cleaner in hand the entire time! but when i am ready to open the new version ....... lets see if this will happen again.....
for information purposes i am doing a complete tor exit node check! im not blocking it because that would also exclude my possibilities to resolve to the originating ip!
it is very very sorry that this is happening and it may be true that a few bad apples do wreck the basket..... and that is why i am taking my time and doing things very careful!
this will be resolved within the next few days as i also am implementing new hardware and a fresh setup made with this in mind!
i hate firewalls! and i love the challenge of backtracking to the source ip and then taking things a higher level and allowing the ISP of the people doing this to resolve this and to openly assure the resolution! The Inernet Service Providers "TOS" =Terms of Service = god sent!
for a few espers  lets take a long ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe we should ask the Synereo/AMPs Community or Dev's team on how they were able to pull it out

There is an ongoing Espers New Wallet Theme contest at the other forum, you should post your entry there http://bitcoingarden.tk/forum/index.php?topic=7769.msg112630#msg112630

How many coin requests should ESP have for it to be added to Polo?