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February 02, 2014, 03:33:47 AM
Answering legitimate concern with mockery? Fanboy, troll, or shill ingsoc? Your data is also incorrect.  There were many more original investors. You'd know that if you actually bothered to check.

https://blockchain.info/address/1BCN1ugdKdWd9pQ8Am9hMhtHZfmbXzxE8a?offset=0&filter=0 

Reading this thread I feel compelled to quote our old friend Lando Calrissian, "This deal keeps getting worse all the time".

Actually, the original investors addresses are hard-coded into NXT genesis block, and they around ~70 indeed AFAIK.
legendary
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February 02, 2014, 03:06:47 AM
How would you respond to these post from Nxt forums

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Its not about proving, one member clearly states there are Ex Goldman Sachs team members.

The biggest question is who is really behind bringing such a wide team together as I doubt they all bumped into each other at a Bustop. Plus the IPO has many similarities to Goldman Sach managed IPO's of stocks.

Of course we don't know, but also no one in the team is going to say yeah Goldman Sachs was behind all this and we are sucking on the Mega banks teats of corporate banking either....

This is what I think happened based purely on opinion. The guy who founded the coin is easy to find out about and people with money in Bnking world head hunted him and said hey your doing great work with Mastercoin etc. How about we fund you to make an even better coin, we will give you all the resources and team members you need and we will provide some money guys to help the IPO run smoothly. They then get to have a foot into crypto, make some money and introduce derivatives in to the equation which they can now control or at least have a large stake in.  


And when I got really suspicious is anyone who really knew the Bitcoin world would not do such an expensive IPO it was an outsider methodology normally used for stocks.... And when a barrage of criticism came about the IPO did one of the founders speak up and dismiss the rumors? No they employed a PR spokesperson to answer questions. That's no amateur set up, big money is behind these guys. Twerpy little 19 year old founder DOES NOT KNOW EX GOLDMAN SACH STAFF SOCIALLY!!!!WAKE THE HELL UP!!!
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It already seemed like a VC backed corporate coin even before they bragged about having people who worked at Goldman Sachs.  I assume they, like Ripple, plan to succeed by getting the blessing of the system.  I'd rather stick with Nxt where the strategy to succeed is, in large part, to become impervious to attacks by the system.
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3710.15.html

In the Jason Bourne novels by American author Robert Ludlum the department within the CIA which made Bourne and the other super agents is called Treadstone Seventy-One. The fact that the original Nxt contributors are 71 in number must mean the CIA is behind Nxt! It's a cryptic message... I can't believe no one has figured this out yet!

Please don't make me laugh...do use common sense.

the video is clear, i'm not saying that GS is involved just that many persons based their opinions on what the video said....simple.
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February 02, 2014, 02:55:48 AM
How would you respond to these post from Nxt forums

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Its not about proving, one member clearly states there are Ex Goldman Sachs team members.

The biggest question is who is really behind bringing such a wide team together as I doubt they all bumped into each other at a Bustop. Plus the IPO has many similarities to Goldman Sach managed IPO's of stocks.

Of course we don't know, but also no one in the team is going to say yeah Goldman Sachs was behind all this and we are sucking on the Mega banks teats of corporate banking either....

This is what I think happened based purely on opinion. The guy who founded the coin is easy to find out about and people with money in Bnking world head hunted him and said hey your doing great work with Mastercoin etc. How about we fund you to make an even better coin, we will give you all the resources and team members you need and we will provide some money guys to help the IPO run smoothly. They then get to have a foot into crypto, make some money and introduce derivatives in to the equation which they can now control or at least have a large stake in.  


And when I got really suspicious is anyone who really knew the Bitcoin world would not do such an expensive IPO it was an outsider methodology normally used for stocks.... And when a barrage of criticism came about the IPO did one of the founders speak up and dismiss the rumors? No they employed a PR spokesperson to answer questions. That's no amateur set up, big money is behind these guys. Twerpy little 19 year old founder DOES NOT KNOW EX GOLDMAN SACH STAFF SOCIALLY!!!!WAKE THE HELL UP!!!
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It already seemed like a VC backed corporate coin even before they bragged about having people who worked at Goldman Sachs.  I assume they, like Ripple, plan to succeed by getting the blessing of the system.  I'd rather stick with Nxt where the strategy to succeed is, in large part, to become impervious to attacks by the system.
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3710.15.html

In the Jason Bourne novels by American author Robert Ludlum the department within the CIA which made Bourne and the other super agents is called Treadstone Seventy-One. The fact that the original Nxt contributors are 71 in number must mean the CIA is behind Nxt! It's a cryptic message... I can't believe no one has figured this out yet!
sr. member
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February 02, 2014, 02:46:05 AM
Is there a development site called SCRUM or are you referring to development being moved to scrum methodology?

In case people are wondering, from Wikipedia, Scrum:


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Scrum is an iterative and incremental Agile software development framework for managing software projects and product or application development. Its focus is on "a flexible, holistic product development strategy where a development team works as a unit to reach a common goal" as opposed to a "traditional, sequential approach".
sr. member
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February 02, 2014, 02:42:33 AM
Do u mean Gavin Andresen of Bitcoin?

He's talking about their Gavin.


Dr. Gavin Wood: Core C++ Developer
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February 02, 2014, 02:23:07 AM
Gavin should already have those out if not soon. I know he wrote the reference client on ubuntu 13.04.

Do u mean Gavin Andresen of Bitcoin?
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black swan hunter
February 02, 2014, 01:51:33 AM
Methodology

Looking forward to pre-sale. Thanks
legendary
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February 02, 2014, 01:46:21 AM
Methodology
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black swan hunter
February 02, 2014, 01:34:26 AM
We are doing a major redesign of it over the next few weeks and migrating to SCRUM.

We also have a working go client. Go get -u http://github.com/go ethereum if I recall.

Is there a development site called SCRUM or are you referring to development being moved to scrum methodology?
legendary
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February 02, 2014, 01:31:51 AM
Gavin should already have those out if not soon. I know he wrote the reference client on ubuntu 13.04.

Do u mean Gavin Andresen of Bitcoin?
legendary
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CEO of IOHK
February 02, 2014, 01:20:30 AM
I'd never do that  Grin
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February 02, 2014, 12:54:34 AM
Thank you, this is progress. Gavin should already have those out if not soon. I know he wrote the reference client on ubuntu 13.04. Visit code.ethereum.org for updates. We are doing a major redesign of it over the next few weeks and migrating to SCRUM. Moving out of February, you should see a lot of great code and tests happening including our economic modeling.

We also have a working go client. Go get -u http://github.com/go ethereum if I recall.
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February 02, 2014, 12:49:46 AM
Vitalik, anthony and I brought the original team together and the whitepaper did the rest. I don't know what to think of these Nxt people to be honest. Apparently our tech sucks, Nxt is better. We have been Co - opted by evil bankers yet our entire team is transparent unlike certain other teams of 71 Smiley oh and vitalik is a time traveling android sent from a dystopian future (Btw there is seriously a graphic novel coming out about it called vitalik ad 2134).

Levity aside, use common sense and good judgment. When we release the prospectus and business plan read them and do your due diligence. Look at our partners and strategy and most importantly our technology. There are some enormous frustrations in the financial world with how things are structured. It's unfair and corrupt also totally inaccessible to billions of people. Don't you think at least 2 people from the industry would like to be on a project that makes the world a better, more fair place?

I understand how you guys feel. I really do see a lot of frustration and anger in these forums. I felt the same when I was in the Ron Paul movement back in 2008. It was terrible to feel helpless and ignored. The difference today is that we have technology that can accomplish anything you want. I just want the community to help us build it, protect it and evolve it to meet the challenges of then future.

The problems we face are now too complex for a single  hacker to resolve. They require a community, large investments in time and resources as well as a dream for a better world. Set the IPO aside and all the other petty grievances and help me make ethereum.

Is your technology solid?  If so none of that crap matters and ethereum will flourish of its own right.  Im a NXTer by the way (will prob get in on some etherium IPO and mine it as well, just because it seems to be different/nonscam like NXT was) and my statement about the tech is how I feel about all the haters of NXT.  No Im not one of the original 73 either.

But if someone wants to phooey on NXT or Ethereum because of something as petty as a GS connection, or because only 73 people threw in during a SIX WEEK period during which there WAS a demonstrated operational client, then sure, let the fascinating tech (and monetary gains) pass you on by.

Are there yet any instructions on building c++/linux? (that work?  something about preempting some uber-new boost libs)
legendary
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February 02, 2014, 12:33:49 AM
Vitalik, anthony and I brought the original team together and the whitepaper did the rest. I don't know what to think of these Nxt people to be honest. Apparently our tech sucks, Nxt is better. We have been Co - opted by evil bankers yet our entire team is transparent unlike certain other teams of 71 Smiley oh and vitalik is a time traveling android sent from a dystopian future (Btw there is seriously a graphic novel coming out about it called vitalik ad 2134).

Levity aside, use common sense and good judgment. When we release the prospectus and business plan read them and do your due diligence. Look at our partners and strategy and most importantly our technology. There are some enormous frustrations in the financial world with how things are structured. It's unfair and corrupt also totally inaccessible to billions of people. Don't you think at least 2 people from the industry would like to be on a project that makes the world a better, more fair place?

I understand how you guys feel. I really do see a lot of frustration and anger in these forums. I felt the same when I was in the Ron Paul movement back in 2008. It was terrible to feel helpless and ignored. The difference today is that we have technology that can accomplish anything you want. I just want the community to help us build it, protect it and evolve it to meet the challenges of then future.

The problems we face are now too complex for a single  hacker to resolve. They require a community, large investments in time and resources as well as a dream for a better world. Set the IPO aside and all the other petty grievances and help me make ethereum.
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February 01, 2014, 10:20:19 PM
https://twitter.com/ethereumcharles My official twitter by popular demand.


How would you respond to these posts from Nxt forums

Quote
Its not about proving, one member clearly states there are Ex Goldman Sachs team members.

The biggest question is who is really behind bringing such a wide team together as I doubt they all bumped into each other at a Bustop. Plus the IPO has many similarities to Goldman Sach managed IPO's of stocks.

Of course we don't know, but also no one in the team is going to say yeah Goldman Sachs was behind all this and we are sucking on the Mega banks teats of corporate banking either....

This is what I think happened based purely on opinion. The guy who founded the coin is easy to find out about and people with money in Bnking world head hunted him and said hey your doing great work with Mastercoin etc. How about we fund you to make an even better coin, we will give you all the resources and team members you need and we will provide some money guys to help the IPO run smoothly. They then get to have a foot into crypto, make some money and introduce derivatives in to the equation which they can now control or at least have a large stake in.  


And when I got really suspicious is anyone who really knew the Bitcoin world would not do such an expensive IPO it was an outsider methodology normally used for stocks.... And when a barrage of criticism came about the IPO did one of the founders speak up and dismiss the rumors? No they employed a PR spokesperson to answer questions. That's no amateur set up, big money is behind these guys. Twerpy little 19 year old founder DOES NOT KNOW EX GOLDMAN SACH STAFF SOCIALLY!!!!WAKE THE HELL UP!!!
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It already seemed like a VC backed corporate coin even before they bragged about having people who worked at Goldman Sachs.  I assume they, like Ripple, plan to succeed by getting the blessing of the system.  I'd rather stick with Nxt where the strategy to succeed is, in large part, to become impervious to attacks by the system.
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3710.15.html
legendary
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February 01, 2014, 07:47:16 PM
https://twitter.com/ethereumcharles My official twitter by popular demand.
legendary
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February 01, 2014, 06:11:10 PM
Bitcoin serves very well as the prime currency of the crypto world. Ether will not replace it nor does it intend to. Bitcoin will continue to be the premier currency; ethereum will do everything else. Ethereum is not intended to fill the role of currency--it's a platform that can be programmed to fill any role at all. Smart contracts, dao's, etc will cause ethereum to be a major tool for decentralization of everything. Ether is less a currency and more like the electricity that makes the machine run. IMO.

I guess the biggest concern with this reasoning is the value. People are concerned about whether or not Ether will be worth as much as they bought it for (presumably they hope for greater value). That's the element of risk, however.

You are correct. It will ultimately depend on whether "later" demand outstrips "initial" supply. Definitely don't invest any more than you can afford to lose!
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February 01, 2014, 04:46:57 PM
Where can I buy Ethereum?

You can't. There's no mainnet yet. Soon, soon (in crypto time)...

any date?

Subscribe to their maiing list @ official website
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February 01, 2014, 04:27:38 PM
Where can I buy Ethereum?

In the future.
legendary
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February 01, 2014, 03:41:14 PM
any date?

Nothing's been announced yet. You probably won't be able to mine for at least a few months.

alright thanks
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