Topic: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 749. (Read 2006460 times)

Dream on. You don't harm anybody. Just make sure you burn your own money!

To be fair any blockchain can be edited, also it's not like the fork stole the funds from the hackers addresses.

Yes they edited history, but only the DAO contract. The DAO contract had a time limit on withdrawing funds so that the hacker never actually got any funds to their addresses.

I am quite sure that if the DAO had paid out immediately to the hackers address, nothing could be done as it would have been too late.

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Although to a certain degree I believe the fork to be a disaster as ETC is currently worth more than the DAO hack.

This means that ETH has actually lost more market cap as a result of the fork than the hack cost.

I argue that the needs of the many outweigh the few and the hack should have not been forked as it has damaged Ethereum's reputation and allowed ETC to exist to the tune of $100mm.

And I really don't like the Ethereum developers talking about the innocent DAO investors, seriously that is a load of rubbish.

No one investing in a experimental program/contract (DAO) on top of an experimental platform (Ethereum) in an experimental space (CryptoCurrency) is innocent and should expect a bail out when things go wrong.

Everyone one here is here for the 10 - 10000 times returns on their gamble. That applies to BTC, ETH, ETC, XMR, etc...

None of the people that invested in the DAO are innocent cautious investors and I think that it's a damn shame that they took this path.

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But with that said, I still stand by the current version of Ethereum because that is where the people have moved onto and to many outside, the fork was the mature thing to do, and that has lended a lot of credibility to the Ethereum Foundation and miners.

Yes it was wrong and selfish, but ETC just doesn't have any backing or support at this point in time and all developments are moving ahead on ETH.

When the fork happened it had 85% support, that says something.

ETC probably doesn't have a future.

Dollar-cost averaging.

Dollar-cost averaging (DCA) is an investment technique of buying a fixed dollar amount of a particular investment on a regular schedule, regardless of the share price. The investor purchases more shares when prices are low and fewer shares when prices are high.

No matter what happens, ETH will dominate thanks to all the attacks because they'll learn how to fix and prevent them all. It'll be the most rock-solid crypto of all time in due course. Sincere, and I mean sincere, thanks to ETC. You are making my day. I do respect you and understand your viewpoint. But still, I mainly thank you from the bottom of my heart for making my day, every day, and keeping the ETH price from skyrocketing. But, it's only a matter of time until it does: Patience, Persistence, Perseverance.

Lemma' repeat: Dollar-cost averaging (DCA) is an investment technique of buying a fixed dollar amount of a particular investment on a regular schedule, regardless of the share price. The investor purchases more shares when prices are low and fewer shares when prices are high.

That's what I'm about. A bit here and a bit there on a regular basis. It is still SO early. Good night Irene.

True the balance changes is the critical point though and you can't trust a blockchain if it can be edited. The only point of a blockchain is not to edit history.

Actually neither are the original.

Ethereum has forked more than once and will fork many times more, this was even apart of their roadmap.

Forks are needed to be cutting edge.

Of course the DAO hack fork was not a technical fork but rather an ideological fork that many people had an issue with.

I have no issue people investing in ETC, however I am worried that the thief spread a lot of ETH fud to keep ETC value high for their exit.

I believe the thief is still paying people off till this day to discredit all of the Ethereum team and foundation to get as many suckers in before they finally fully cash out.

Disclaimer: I do not hold ETC.

Both are real blockchains.

For acceptance have a look at the difference in market caps between Ethereum Classic and Ethereum.

https://coinmarketcap.com/

That doesn't tell the whole story as all coins are being manipulated but at least it gives you an idea.

Research and decide what one or both to invest in. (or none!)

One way of looking at it, buy the same amount of coins in both meaning that you have a whole slice of the Ethereum pie.

Etc is the original and eth is forked and not the original any more

Try this: http://prntscr.com/cr9lsr

Hi, I find myetherwallet can be created one address once, but I need more eth address to protect my privacy. Anyone knows that which ethereum wallet can create multiple addresses like bitcoin wallet?

I tried with opened and closed - no luck. It downloads blocks into nowhere. I can't find a place on my pc. But my wallet's folder has the same size (it's on Roaming -> Ethereum and Ethereum Wallet (2 folders)).
Parity folder is on Users -> .parity. It's about 4 Gb. Not 20+.

Could you just share your chaindata folder ? Via torrent, for example ?

No no, you shouldn't close parity before turning ethereum wallet on . Or maybe you have another directory than default in your Ethereum Wallet..

Both have real blockchain in their own rights.

Seriously? Can you stop with the outright lies and false information? We all know you are an ETC fanboy/bagholder but your posts are starting to be outright malicious and slanderous..

Hi, i am a newbie, which is real blockchain? etc or eth?

The blockchain never stopped.

My Ethereum node has been working non-stop and the blocks keep rolling.

I know that we're under "attack" however all I see are slightly longer block times.

This is all mostly FUD, I'm sending and receiving Ether with no problems.

I think that Devs must provide blockchain files along with wallet and mist. What's the point of sharing them without current blockchain ?
People don't have another month to wait untill it downloads. And it loads a CPU on 100% all that time!

Another way is to fix their downloader. It's downloading blocks veeeery slow.
Do you know Elementrem project ? Their code is based on Ethereum. And their downloader is like a flashlight! This is what I like there.

It took me more than 5 hours to sync.
Then I started Ethereum Wallet as you told me and... And it started to download blockchain again!
And that Parity thing is just command-line black interface, it's just importing blocks, nothing else.. It's not a wallet or browser. Useless soft.
So I just spent 5 hours for nothing.

 

https://btcmanager.com/news/gatecoins-ceo-on-forging-ahead-with-a-bullish-eye-towards-tokens-and-icos/

I am using the latest version of the geth, it is working properly.

https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/releases

Dear Diary (v1.4.16)
@fjl fjl released this a day ago

This release improves block processing performance to work around recent DoS attacks. It also disables the --jitvm A/B test which previously enabled the experimental JIT VM for 10% of geth users.

The DoS issue that began affecting the network two days ago has been remediated by adding state journalling to Geth. Journalling means that we no longer need to copy a transaction's state when a call is made; this is the root cause of many of the recently identified issues. Journalling, along with other recent improvements in response to other attacks, should also make Geth significantly faster at importing transactions.


Downloads
7.95 MBgeth-darwin-amd64-1.4.16-4fced097.tar.gz
7.82 MBgeth-linux-amd64-1.4.16-4fced097.tar.gz
17.2 MBgeth-windows-amd64-1.4.16-4fced097.zip
Source code (zip)
Source code (tar.gz)

Thanks a lot!