Hawk: The Blockchain Model of Cryptography and
Privacy-Preserving Smart Contracts
https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/675.pdf
The Hawk smart contract system begins with a simplified version of the open-source zerocash protocol, and it layers its smart contract system on top of that base.
In Hawk, a wide range of encrypted data — or digital currency — can then be used as the inputs and outputs of the smart contracts, "so the blockchain can't see what the output values of the contract are," said Miller.
The contracts wouldn’t be implemented on every transaction, but rather used on a case-by-case basis when additional privacy is needed by users of a public blockchain.
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Topic: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 802. (Read 2007101 times)
PETITION CALLING FOR MEMBERS OF THE ETHEREUM FOUNDATION/TEAM AND OTHERS (WHITE HACKERS) TO RETURN ETC TO DAO HOLDERS ADDRESSES.
SEE POST BELOW & SIGN THE PETITION.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15827434
https://www.change.org/p/ethereum-foundation-members-of-ethereum-team-white-hats-to-return-etc-to-dao-holders
SEE POST BELOW & SIGN THE PETITION.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15827434
https://www.change.org/p/ethereum-foundation-members-of-ethereum-team-white-hats-to-return-etc-to-dao-holders
Good luck man, made my day!
PETITION CALLING FOR MEMBERS OF THE ETHEREUM FOUNDATION/TEAM AND OTHERS (WHITE HACKERS) TO RETURN ETC TO DAO HOLDERS ADDRESSES.
SEE POST BELOW & SIGN THE PETITION.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15827434
https://www.change.org/p/ethereum-foundation-members-of-ethereum-team-white-hats-to-return-etc-to-dao-holders
SEE POST BELOW & SIGN THE PETITION.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15827434
https://www.change.org/p/ethereum-foundation-members-of-ethereum-team-white-hats-to-return-etc-to-dao-holders
I was wondering when someone would be taking initiative on this - Kudos - i will be signing
Anyone know why Bittrex as ETH under wallet maintenance?
It's pretty normal for Bittrex.
They routinely take wallets offline whenever they are doing backend stuff.
They currently have 12 different Alt Coin wallets offline for backend stuff.
Thanks!!
Anyone know why Bittrex as ETH under wallet maintenance?
It's pretty normal for Bittrex.
They routinely take wallets offline whenever they are doing backend stuff.
They currently have 12 different Alt Coin wallets offline for backend stuff.
PETITION CALLING FOR THE ETHEREUM FOUNDATION (WHITE HACKERS) TO RETURN ETC TO DAO HOLDERS ADDRESSES.
SEE POST BELOW & SIGN THE PETITION.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15827434
https://www.change.org/p/ethereum-foundation-ethereum-foundation-to-return-etc-to-dao-holders
SEE POST BELOW & SIGN THE PETITION.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15827434
https://www.change.org/p/ethereum-foundation-ethereum-foundation-to-return-etc-to-dao-holders
LOL Dream oooooonnnnn
Anyone know why Bittrex as ETH under wallet maintenance?
PETITION CALLING FOR THE ETHEREUM FOUNDATION (WHITE HACKERS) TO RETURN ETC TO DAO HOLDERS ADDRESSES.
SEE POST BELOW & SIGN THE PETITION.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15827434
https://www.change.org/p/ethereum-foundation-ethereum-foundation-to-return-etc-to-dao-holders
SEE POST BELOW & SIGN THE PETITION.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15827434
https://www.change.org/p/ethereum-foundation-ethereum-foundation-to-return-etc-to-dao-holders
Why post that on this ANN, there is ANN for the DAO.
Why do so many people keep posting stuff on Ethereum ANN, about ETC?
PETITION CALLING FOR MEMBERS OF THE ETHEREUM FOUNDATION/TEAM AND OTHERS (WHITE HACKERS) TO RETURN ETC TO DAO HOLDERS ADDRESSES.
SEE POST BELOW & SIGN THE PETITION.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15827434
https://www.change.org/p/ethereum-foundation-members-of-ethereum-team-white-hats-to-return-etc-to-dao-holders
SEE POST BELOW & SIGN THE PETITION.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15827434
https://www.change.org/p/ethereum-foundation-members-of-ethereum-team-white-hats-to-return-etc-to-dao-holders
Be sure to PM me when you sell your GPUs, i may be interested 
And, remember this is good for AMD , as well.
Because, people pick up really great gaming GPU's formerly used for crypto mining.
During the massive 290's and 280's sell off, when Litecoin went over to ASIC hardware people were buying 290's and 290X's on ebay for 40% of there online price.
Then, when those 2nd hand Ebay buyers came to upgrading their gaming rigs, they bought more expensive Nvidia and AMD GPU's, not forgetting all those extra sales of gaming monitors.
You may have noticed, higher end Desktop PC gaming and Steam really took off 2 years ago, when all of these high end GPU's were sold off on Ebay.
This time.
Ethereum wins.
AMD wins.
Nvidia wins.
Be sure to PM me when you sell your GPUs, i may be interested
Code is not law, Law is Law.
Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1XiAwSpXbI go to 3:00, from the start for the leagal stuff or from 13:30 for the real meat
If a man robs a bank do we recall all the dollar bills in existence and re issue new ones?
Crime will exist with or without money. The question is.... Who is arbiter of global law? The banks? The crypto currency providers? The American Government? If that is the case, we will have to trust them. They will decide who the criminals are. They will become the new law and you will have to do as you are told. There goes “trust-less” out the window with “immutability”, No?
It is the banksters who are the criminals here and ETH are getting very close to them.
Look what the banks get up to https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/04/hsbc-fined-278m-over-money-laundering-claims
Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1XiAwSpXbI go to 3:00, from the start for the leagal stuff or from 13:30 for the real meat
If a man robs a bank do we recall all the dollar bills in existence and re issue new ones?
Crime will exist with or without money. The question is.... Who is arbiter of global law? The banks? The crypto currency providers? The American Government? If that is the case, we will have to trust them. They will decide who the criminals are. They will become the new law and you will have to do as you are told. There goes “trust-less” out the window with “immutability”, No?
It is the banksters who are the criminals here and ETH are getting very close to them.
Look what the banks get up to https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/04/hsbc-fined-278m-over-money-laundering-claims
Really, that is so Off Topic, perhaps you should start a separate thread for those opinions!
I really hope, Ethereum goes to POS in the next 3-4 months
Then, I'll sell off my AMD GPU's on ebay and buy some more Ethereum
Code is not law, Law is Law.
Ref: Chris Ellis - Ethereum, A Classic Tale of Two Chains https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1XiAwSpXbI go to 3:00, from the start for the legal stuff or from 13:30 for the real meat
If a man robs a bank do we recall all the dollar bills in existence and re issue new ones?
Crime will exist with or without money. The question is.... Who is arbiter of global law? The banks? The crypto currency providers? The American Government? If that is the case, we will have to trust them. They will decide who the criminals are. They will become the new law and you will have to do as you are told. There goes “trust-less” out the window with “immutability”, No?
It is the banksters who are the criminals here and ETH are getting very close to them.
Look what the banks get up to https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/04/hsbc-fined-278m-over-money-laundering-claims
Ref: Chris Ellis - Ethereum, A Classic Tale of Two Chains https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1XiAwSpXbI go to 3:00, from the start for the legal stuff or from 13:30 for the real meat
If a man robs a bank do we recall all the dollar bills in existence and re issue new ones?
Crime will exist with or without money. The question is.... Who is arbiter of global law? The banks? The crypto currency providers? The American Government? If that is the case, we will have to trust them. They will decide who the criminals are. They will become the new law and you will have to do as you are told. There goes “trust-less” out the window with “immutability”, No?
It is the banksters who are the criminals here and ETH are getting very close to them.
Look what the banks get up to https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/04/hsbc-fined-278m-over-money-laundering-claims
You do realize that the "replay theft" (where did you get the 7.5m figure?) was a combination of the hasty hardfork and the ineptitude of some exchanges and/or users? Is ETH going to roll that back too? Because that's what you seem to be suggesting. ETC doesn't care, but ETH the crime-fighting network does, so they fork again now?
According to ETC proponents,
1) there was no "thief"
2) there was no "theft"
because "code is law" and now the hacker is the rightful owner of his (ETC) tokens.
So there is no reason to investigate according to ETC folks (hacker might be one of them).
BTW: Have those ETH bastards even magically erased all that evidence of non theft from the pre fork chain?
BTW2: You cannot have your cake and eat it...
So there is no problem for the person who "hack" the DAO tokens to sue the Ethereum Foundation?
I sure there is separate ANN for DAO, perhaps you should post that question on their ANN.
You do realize that the "replay theft" (where did you get the 7.5m figure?) was a combination of the hasty hardfork and the ineptitude of some exchanges and/or users? Is ETH going to roll that back too? Because that's what you seem to be suggesting. ETC doesn't care, but ETH the crime-fighting network does, so they fork again now?
According to ETC proponents,
1) there was no "thief"
2) there was no "theft"
because "code is law" and now the hacker is the rightful owner of his (ETC) tokens.
So there is no reason to investigate according to ETC folks (hacker might be one of them).
BTW: Have those ETH bastards even magically erased all that evidence of non theft from the pre fork chain?
BTW2: You cannot have your cake and eat it...
So there is no problem for the person who "hack" the DAO tokens to sue the Ethereum Foundation?
This ANN is getting a tad off topic or what?
Most people, who are not commercial miners, mine with GPU's for accumulation of the Alt Coin e.g. at some point in time, you will want the mined coins in your wallet to go up in value.
When Ethereum hit $20 dollars, it became impossible to mine and hold ETH, because common sense implied, you should sell them off and buy yourself 2-3 more GPU's and then hold the Ethereum when the price came down.
Clearly, for most GPU accumulators of Ethereum, when the coins goes to POS - there is the real prospect of Ethereum heading back up towards $20.
Secondly, as the time reduces to the beginning of POS stage - the incentive to sell Ethereum to buy more GPUs disappears, because common sense implies you won't get enough Ethereum to justify the expenditure.
I, myself, am looking forward to the POS, because it means I don't have to buy any more GPU's!
Most people, who are not commercial miners, mine with GPU's for accumulation of the Alt Coin e.g. at some point in time, you will want the mined coins in your wallet to go up in value.
When Ethereum hit $20 dollars, it became impossible to mine and hold ETH, because common sense implied, you should sell them off and buy yourself 2-3 more GPU's and then hold the Ethereum when the price came down.
Clearly, for most GPU accumulators of Ethereum, when the coins goes to POS - there is the real prospect of Ethereum heading back up towards $20.
Secondly, as the time reduces to the beginning of POS stage - the incentive to sell Ethereum to buy more GPUs disappears, because common sense implies you won't get enough Ethereum to justify the expenditure.
I, myself, am looking forward to the POS, because it means I don't have to buy any more GPU's!
question:
why do the miners still mine ETH? with that diff bomp on the chain. did the ethereum team tell of it. befor they did that ? i didnt know of it.
well and pos means there are no more miners needed ? right?
are miners now careful ? with investing ?
i watched that video
https://youtu.be/OGGW9ozE-ys?list=PLPQwGV1aLnTs1Ct0aZR7nKNaHHM8WAeAZ
and it seems to me that the ETH guys say for them it doesnt matter what or whom they kick off the ship. as long as they get to success.
i mean the one guy sounded like no matter what, we change it. rules , principles ........ and so on.
fork it ...
thats very scary for a to be world computer
they say consensus. but if its a world computer and every one on earth will or shall be part of it it must be demorcatic it cant be dictatoric.
otherwise it leads to slavery of the masses.
how about a young man in africas bush does he have a voice in this worldcomputer voting ?
or only the big holders of ETH ?
edit:
i found the tweet it was martin köppelmann in the show :
and he tweeted this:
https://twitter.com/koeppelmann/status/760997201048850432
so he thinks devs dont need the miners ?
why do the miners still mine ETH? with that diff bomp on the chain. did the ethereum team tell of it. befor they did that ? i didnt know of it.
well and pos means there are no more miners needed ? right?
are miners now careful ? with investing ?
i watched that video
https://youtu.be/OGGW9ozE-ys?list=PLPQwGV1aLnTs1Ct0aZR7nKNaHHM8WAeAZ
and it seems to me that the ETH guys say for them it doesnt matter what or whom they kick off the ship. as long as they get to success.
i mean the one guy sounded like no matter what, we change it. rules , principles ........ and so on.
fork it ...
thats very scary for a to be world computer
they say consensus. but if its a world computer and every one on earth will or shall be part of it it must be demorcatic it cant be dictatoric.
otherwise it leads to slavery of the masses.
how about a young man in africas bush does he have a voice in this worldcomputer voting ?
or only the big holders of ETH ?
edit:
i found the tweet it was martin köppelmann in the show :
and he tweeted this:
https://twitter.com/koeppelmann/status/760997201048850432
so he thinks devs dont need the miners ?
You do realize that the "replay theft" (where did you get the 7.5m figure?) was a combination of the hasty hardfork and the ineptitude of some exchanges and/or users? Is ETH going to roll that back too? Because that's what you seem to be suggesting. ETC doesn't care, but ETH the crime-fighting network does, so they fork again now?
According to ETC proponents,
1) there was no "thief"
2) there was no "theft"
because "code is law" and now the hacker is the rightful owner of his (ETC) tokens.
So there is no reason to investigate according to ETC folks (hacker might be one of them).
BTW: Have those ETH bastards even magically erased all that evidence of non theft from the pre fork chain?
BTW2: You cannot have your cake and eat it...
the fork was selfjustic. no jury , no fakts on the table , no investigation.
I don't want to labour the point (over state this) about the effect of high crime activity reducing the willingness of people to set up businesses on a Network place.
But, if you read a basic Sociology book, nothing challenging e.g. A' Level standard (for people aged 16-18) it will run through statistics related geographical regions with higher levels of criminal activity and reduction in peoples willingness to build businesses there.
Essentially, it will explain the basics, places that become locations for high levels of criminal activity, see a corresponding reductions in people's willingness to build businesses in those places.
Places with low levels of criminal activity, have higher levels of people trying to build businesses there.
Clearly, this piece of Sociology will effect the Market Capitalisation of Crypto Currencies.
But, if you read a basic Sociology book, nothing challenging e.g. A' Level standard (for people aged 16-18) it will run through statistics related geographical regions with higher levels of criminal activity and reduction in peoples willingness to build businesses there.
Essentially, it will explain the basics, places that become locations for high levels of criminal activity, see a corresponding reductions in people's willingness to build businesses in those places.
Places with low levels of criminal activity, have higher levels of people trying to build businesses there.
Clearly, this piece of Sociology will effect the Market Capitalisation of Crypto Currencies.
You made your point pretty clear, thank you. Now can you explain why ETH (the righteous fork) doesn't roll back other thefts and losses, just that one DAO thing?
a precedent has been set::
Do you want to be on the chain that is mutable or not
The ETC chain gives you that choice, and has a market vaule of over 100M supporting that choice.
so their is nothing to argue about the more immutable version ETC has a value proposition, much it seems to the chargin of the ETH only crowd, and disbelief. They did not appreciate the strength of what they were doing...code is law!
we fought, traded, won,lost,cried and made up...where were you?
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