Topic: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 845. (Read 2007099 times)

ETC already at $30 million market cap

These kinds of posts offer absolutely 0 value to the discussion.  It's the same as when fudders shout "shitcoin" or some such.  Try explaining what you think in a more adult fashion.

Blalblabla bla bla blabla bla.

Done yet?

Need more cheese to the whine, or whats your deal?

Don't forget the extreme supply and hyper inflation killing any chance of further increases

The price is no indicator about quality. It's a result of the wish to make money and Investors/Speculators/Traders will invest as long as they believe that the ETH-price gives chances for that. They (we) also would buy into scams if there would be the believe that enough others will buy even more and drive the price - before the race would start to go out sooner than others.

Not saying Ethereum is a scam, just want to say: The price is not about quality and btw.: It seems manipulated and backed.

More important is one question in my opinion:

If we think about Ethereum out of the perspective of potential Customers who want to use it for Smart Contracts, for their real business:
Would they trust the tech? Is it really possible to feel safe with it? If Ethereum-Developers don't seem to be able to develop something like TheDAO secure, how will it be possible for anybody to feel safe with it? And I doubt that a HF gave more trust in general.

And in the end it will need real use, or the price will go down. It's not possible to build Ethereum and than a project that is funded with expensive Ether to fund Ethereum-projects like Slock.it etc., if nothing leads beyond Ethereum to real business and money outside of Ethereum's eco-system, which is based on speculation, Magic won't happen.

And that circles back to the question: Will there be enough trust in Ethereum that real-business-Customers will use it?

Because it's possible that everybody who is interested in technologies with a focus on Smart Contracts watches Ethereum with high interest - but not to use it. I believe, the highest risk for Ethereum will be competition, that there could be better systems in future, most likely not that complex but more secure, maybe specialized for different purposes and so on. Ethereum seems like a project that wants to be "all-in-one" but all is nothing if there is a lack of stability and security and trust.

I'm not saying that it's that way. I'm not sure. But before all it's safe to say: The price is no indicator and "masses" are not always right. "They all" (let's say "too many") bought into TheDAO and it was a total lack of quality. And the hype was irrational but maybe intended, while it would have been even more irrational if it would have increased in price after launch - some people believe it would.

I personally never understood the high price and I still don't understand why it's still high and I expect it to go down. Because: All value (price) is based on speculation and conclusions are based on the price ---> that is a circle that can't work out.

It was a landslide win ...

Just ignore the emotrolls. As one of them already admitted, he bummed out and sold everything before the fork.
Instead of facing the facts, he now tries to convince the world otherwise...


(ps, read his posts before the fork ... kinda ironic and hilarious)

Meh, sorry I just don't buy it.  We're still seeing articles of industry leads continually touting Ethereum tech.  Yes, there are the few who write about how the HF is detrimental (trust issues and all that).  But with the latest news from Msft, not to mention the price drastically pumping after the HF...I mean....I simply don't buy in to the idea that Ethereum is in the middle of a disaster or is dying or however one might want to tag it. It seems the masses value Eth more now than before the HF.

so far there seems to be no loss of confidence with eth.
and as I just posted...didn't miners decide?

Isn't it obvious? Financial disaster happens if there is a loss of confidence. Crypto currencies are especially vulnerable. A small group of people decided they need hf to bail out failed project. Now it is obvious this small group can be forced to make the next fork.

I am aware of all the discussions and have my own view, I was just interested in which elements you took into account for your view e.g technical, chain functionality, currency, markets price and interest, centralize vs decentralize, trust/loss of trust, security, distribution etc. Also, what do you define as a financial disaster.

maybe I'm missing something.....

did vb and company force hardfork or is it that they just showed it was possible to accomplish and supported it?

I thought majority of miners are the ones who actually decided.

There is only 100 threads on it, if your late to the discussion I certainly can't catch you up.

It would be interesting to know why you say this?

This is a self sustaining financial disaster that will take a long time to peter out, along the lines of drk only larger.

the original chain is the key
Rejecting Today’s Hard Fork, the Ethereum Classic Project Continues on the Original Chain: Here's Why

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/rejecting-today-s-hard-fork-the-ethereum-classic-project-continues-on-the-original-chain-here-s-why-1469038808

Hello,

New to this forum and coin; I missed out    

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just found this in the dao fail thread:

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FCn_pLyKVYAAXu3t.jpg&t=566&c=pPgYPf8y5UqzzA

sad that i didn't bought ETH 3 days ago.

Fork time

Honestly roselee, it seems you dont get it.

Just stop making a fool of yourself.