Topic: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning - page 880. (Read 2006108 times)
Hi to all, i made a bot (in beta now) to manage lending orders on poloniex for ETH if someone interested in trying it : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poloniex-bot-program-for-lending-section-new-release-16-version-1531889
-devs invested in own crap code creating conflict of interest
-create 'too big to fail' by accident because of hype and greed
-get bug-exploited (ignored experts raising red flags)
-consider splitting the network, introduce blacklisting, erase immutability-promise and threaten to sue everyone who opposes it
-market sends it into the abyss
-the end-
-create 'too big to fail' by accident because of hype and greed
-get bug-exploited (ignored experts raising red flags)
-consider splitting the network, introduce blacklisting, erase immutability-promise and threaten to sue everyone who opposes it
-market sends it into the abyss
-the end-
Just to reiterate
Theft is theft. Forget blockchain ideologies.
If the theft of etherium/dao is allowed to go ahead, then should etherium be worth anything?
It would accept stealing as ok and the norm, and be seen to reward such behavior.
A thief should be brought to justice not rewarded. It was an accepted part of the dao that funds wouldn't be released accept for consensus of the dao, not consensus of anyone else. If someone hacked any institution because its security was lax, it would be theft just the same, and the same goes for anything else. There is no such thing as a fair flaw.
This is a theft that can be stopped, so if developers can stop it but choose not to, or don't use anything in their power to stop it, it can be seen as effectively aiding in the theft.
Forget blockchain ideologies they will be meaningless. Everyone take very careful analysis of what is occurring there can be consequences if the theft is allowed to continue.
And consider the effect of a thief holding such a large percentage of ether equals etherium can't be trusted in the future, as it gives power, and may if possible be used to take down the system at anytime in the future with no recourse.
Those that have unfavorably commented on my previous post have shown that they have their head so far up a computer that they have forgotten they live in the real world.
They are also making misleading assumptions about me which shows the state of logic that evolves from them.
Also to consider anyone found to be helping a theft could also be brought to justice.
There may also be ramifications to this that are hard to see at the moment that may have wider implications.
This could be over with a simple fork or whatever is needed.
You do not need to re-compute history, this is a fundamentally difference in the way etherium works, as has been stated in LBT live (thanks Mrpumperitis for link). This also doesn't need to be a president as its so early in etherums development.
Theft is theft. Forget blockchain ideologies.
If the theft of etherium/dao is allowed to go ahead, then should etherium be worth anything?
It would accept stealing as ok and the norm, and be seen to reward such behavior.
A thief should be brought to justice not rewarded. It was an accepted part of the dao that funds wouldn't be released accept for consensus of the dao, not consensus of anyone else. If someone hacked any institution because its security was lax, it would be theft just the same, and the same goes for anything else. There is no such thing as a fair flaw.
This is a theft that can be stopped, so if developers can stop it but choose not to, or don't use anything in their power to stop it, it can be seen as effectively aiding in the theft.
Forget blockchain ideologies they will be meaningless. Everyone take very careful analysis of what is occurring there can be consequences if the theft is allowed to continue.
And consider the effect of a thief holding such a large percentage of ether equals etherium can't be trusted in the future, as it gives power, and may if possible be used to take down the system at anytime in the future with no recourse.
Those that have unfavorably commented on my previous post have shown that they have their head so far up a computer that they have forgotten they live in the real world.
They are also making misleading assumptions about me which shows the state of logic that evolves from them.
Also to consider anyone found to be helping a theft could also be brought to justice.
There may also be ramifications to this that are hard to see at the moment that may have wider implications.
This could be over with a simple fork or whatever is needed.
You do not need to re-compute history, this is a fundamentally difference in the way etherium works, as has been stated in LBT live (thanks Mrpumperitis for link). This also doesn't need to be a president as its so early in etherums development.
Right, who needs secure code when you just can sue everyone? That'll teach them!
Secure code is overrated. Mob rule and some sueing will do just fine.
Just to reiterate
Theft is theft. Forget blockchain ideologies.
If the theft of etherium/dao is allowed to go ahead, then should etherium be worth anything?
It would accept stealing as ok and the norm, and be seen to reward such behavior.
A thief should be brought to justice not rewarded. It was an accepted part of the dao that funds wouldn't be released accept for consensus of the dao, not consensus of anyone else. If someone hacked any institution because its security was lax, it would be theft just the same, and the same goes for anything else. There is no such thing as a fair flaw.
This is a theft that can be stopped, so if developers can stop it but choose not to, or don't use anything in their power to stop it, it can be seen as effectively aiding in the theft.
Forget blockchain ideologies they will be meaningless. Everyone take very careful analysis of what is occurring there can be consequences if the theft is allowed to continue.
And consider the effect of a thief holding such a large percentage of ether equals etherium can't be trusted in the future, as it gives power, and may if possible be used to take down the system at anytime in the future with no recourse.
Those that have unfavorably commented on my previous post have shown that they have their head so far up a computer that they have forgotten they live in the real world.
They are also making misleading assumptions about me which shows the state of logic that evolves from them.
Also to consider anyone found to be helping a theft could also be brought to justice.
There may also be ramifications to this that are hard to see at the moment that may have wider implications.
This could be over with a simple fork or whatever is needed.
You do not need to re-compute history, this is a fundamentally difference in the way etherium works, as has been stated in LBT live (thanks Mrpumperitis for link). This also doesn't need to be a president as its so early in etherums development.
Theft is theft. Forget blockchain ideologies.
If the theft of etherium/dao is allowed to go ahead, then should etherium be worth anything?
It would accept stealing as ok and the norm, and be seen to reward such behavior.
A thief should be brought to justice not rewarded. It was an accepted part of the dao that funds wouldn't be released accept for consensus of the dao, not consensus of anyone else. If someone hacked any institution because its security was lax, it would be theft just the same, and the same goes for anything else. There is no such thing as a fair flaw.
This is a theft that can be stopped, so if developers can stop it but choose not to, or don't use anything in their power to stop it, it can be seen as effectively aiding in the theft.
Forget blockchain ideologies they will be meaningless. Everyone take very careful analysis of what is occurring there can be consequences if the theft is allowed to continue.
And consider the effect of a thief holding such a large percentage of ether equals etherium can't be trusted in the future, as it gives power, and may if possible be used to take down the system at anytime in the future with no recourse.
Those that have unfavorably commented on my previous post have shown that they have their head so far up a computer that they have forgotten they live in the real world.
They are also making misleading assumptions about me which shows the state of logic that evolves from them.
Also to consider anyone found to be helping a theft could also be brought to justice.
There may also be ramifications to this that are hard to see at the moment that may have wider implications.
This could be over with a simple fork or whatever is needed.
You do not need to re-compute history, this is a fundamentally difference in the way etherium works, as has been stated in LBT live (thanks Mrpumperitis for link). This also doesn't need to be a president as its so early in etherums development.
I agree with you that if the thief is allowed to steal the funds, then ethereum will have no future.
It will set a precedent that will undermine the entire network. Anyone arguing in favour of the dao token holders losing their funds on this forum are just people that want ethereum to fail. There are plenty of people like that here.
Are we going to have to build our clients all over again? I mean, reinstall, resync, and the whole nine yards? I mean, what should I be doing now to make this whole hardfork thing easier to manage....I really do not enjoy re-synchronizing entire blockchains....this ain't gonna be fun is it?
Just to reiterate
Theft is theft. Forget blockchain ideologies.
If the theft of etherium/dao is allowed to go ahead, then should etherium be worth anything?
It would accept stealing as ok and the norm, and be seen to reward such behavior.
A thief should be brought to justice not rewarded. It was an accepted part of the dao that funds wouldn't be released accept for consensus of the dao, not consensus of anyone else. If someone hacked any institution because its security was lax, it would be theft just the same, and the same goes for anything else. There is no such thing as a fair flaw.
This is a theft that can be stopped, so if developers can stop it but choose not to, or don't use anything in their power to stop it, it can be seen as effectively aiding in the theft.
Forget blockchain ideologies they will be meaningless. Everyone take very careful analysis of what is occurring there can be consequences if the theft is allowed to continue.
And consider the effect of a thief holding such a large percentage of ether equals etherium can't be trusted in the future, as it gives power, and may if possible be used to take down the system at anytime in the future with no recourse.
Those that have unfavorably commented on my previous post have shown that they have their head so far up a computer that they have forgotten they live in the real world.
They are also making misleading assumptions about me which shows the state of logic that evolves from them.
Also to consider anyone found to be helping a theft could also be brought to justice.
There may also be ramifications to this that are hard to see at the moment that may have wider implications.
This could be over with a simple fork or whatever is needed.
You do not need to re-compute history, this is a fundamentally difference in the way etherium works, as has been stated in LBT live (thanks Mrpumperitis for link). This also doesn't need to be a president as its so early in etherums development.
Theft is theft. Forget blockchain ideologies.
If the theft of etherium/dao is allowed to go ahead, then should etherium be worth anything?
It would accept stealing as ok and the norm, and be seen to reward such behavior.
A thief should be brought to justice not rewarded. It was an accepted part of the dao that funds wouldn't be released accept for consensus of the dao, not consensus of anyone else. If someone hacked any institution because its security was lax, it would be theft just the same, and the same goes for anything else. There is no such thing as a fair flaw.
This is a theft that can be stopped, so if developers can stop it but choose not to, or don't use anything in their power to stop it, it can be seen as effectively aiding in the theft.
Forget blockchain ideologies they will be meaningless. Everyone take very careful analysis of what is occurring there can be consequences if the theft is allowed to continue.
And consider the effect of a thief holding such a large percentage of ether equals etherium can't be trusted in the future, as it gives power, and may if possible be used to take down the system at anytime in the future with no recourse.
Those that have unfavorably commented on my previous post have shown that they have their head so far up a computer that they have forgotten they live in the real world.
They are also making misleading assumptions about me which shows the state of logic that evolves from them.
Also to consider anyone found to be helping a theft could also be brought to justice.
There may also be ramifications to this that are hard to see at the moment that may have wider implications.
This could be over with a simple fork or whatever is needed.
You do not need to re-compute history, this is a fundamentally difference in the way etherium works, as has been stated in LBT live (thanks Mrpumperitis for link). This also doesn't need to be a president as its so early in etherums development.
Not a good news for hard fork supporters:
Ethereum protocol developer holds $114,877 worth of DAO tokens
(most probably he is Gavin, I hope he is not)
http://aakilfernandes.github.io/ethereum-protocol-developer-holds-114877-dollars-worth-of-dao-tokens
Ethereum protocol developer holds $114,877 worth of DAO tokens
(most probably he is Gavin, I hope he is not)
http://aakilfernandes.github.io/ethereum-protocol-developer-holds-114877-dollars-worth-of-dao-tokens
forget the forks
lets put a HARD KNIFE at the belly of THE DAO to finish it ones and for all...haha
lets put a HARD KNIFE at the belly of THE DAO to finish it ones and for all...haha
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4qjfaa/andreas_antonopoulos_i_think_were_gonna_see_a/
Andreas Antonopoulos: "I think we're gonna see a Hard Fork before July 15th"
I hope hard fork will solve the problem and stop DDSAtt forever . soft fork was a joke Andreas Antonopoulos: "I think we're gonna see a Hard Fork before July 15th"
yea
Andreas nails it at 59min
LOL, what a fucking train wreck
Cant wait to see how they fuck up the hardfork, gonna be epic
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4qjfaa/andreas_antonopoulos_i_think_were_gonna_see_a/
Andreas Antonopoulos: "I think we're gonna see a Hard Fork before July 15th"
I hope hard fork will solve the problem and stop DDSAtt forever . soft fork was a joke Andreas Antonopoulos: "I think we're gonna see a Hard Fork before July 15th"
Welcome to ethereum, where what the majority of the 'community' says is more important than the code.
democracy ? lol, now let's all vote to redistribute funds of the largest 10 holders on the richlist to the rest of us
I think we can get a majority going for that.
Welcome to the communist Dunning-Kruger-coin because "democrataaay"
o boy that was good dont worry they are just finding out that they cant do anything about the dao
and thats a good thing for the ether
I have changed the title in advance of the hard fork, if there is a hard fork. 
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4qjfaa/andreas_antonopoulos_i_think_were_gonna_see_a/
Andreas Antonopoulos: "I think we're gonna see a Hard Fork before July 15th"
Andreas Antonopoulos: "I think we're gonna see a Hard Fork before July 15th"
Welcome to ethereum, where what the majority of the 'community' says is more important than the code.
democracy ? lol, now let's all vote to redistribute funds of the largest 10 holders on the richlist to the rest of us
I think we can get a majority going for that.
Welcome to the communist Dunning-Kruger-coin because "democrataaay"
Welcome to ethereum, where what the majority of the 'community' says is more important than the code.
democracy ? Downvoting of important and relevant info is strong in the eth-reddit, i must say.
Also aparently disagreement with the HF now can get you banned on the eth-reddit i'm reading. Lots of 'deleted' everywhere.
eth-people seem to have their mind set on splitting their network. Do we already know which exchange will list the ETH1/ETH2 pairing for the final battel?
no but if you find out let us know Also aparently disagreement with the HF now can get you banned on the eth-reddit i'm reading. Lots of 'deleted' everywhere.
eth-people seem to have their mind set on splitting their network. Do we already know which exchange will list the ETH1/ETH2 pairing for the final battel?
Welcome to ethereum, where what the majority of the 'community' says is more important than the code.
ether does well considering the shock with dao its such a pity that the dao wasnt reviewed better. reminds me of microsoft
windows with all the bugs and all the users had to suffer but microsoft still did grow
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