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Quote from: Last1212 on January 22, 2014, 10:36:16 AM

Lol, Mogui can get heartbreak when read all this ideas Shocked

lol. Its the otherway arround. We are heartbroken. We support him and the coin. When he is back i am very happy.

If not. Well we can do 2 things. Do nothing (wat is not really doing anything Tongue

) or try to build something nice on the name e-token Grin

halinyo

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The future is bright with DigiByte.

Is this coin dead yet? Wondering if it will be back soon ?

What was the problem ? What happened?

BoeserKeller

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Quote from: Last1212 on January 22, 2014, 10:36:16 AM

Lol, Mogui can get heartbreak when read all this ideas Shocked

If he reads it, he should be happy that there is so much effort in the commnity to keep the coin alive. I am still hoping for his return and wish that we can clear up this mess Wink

Last1212

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Lol, Mogui can get heartbreak when read all this ideas Shocked

andrewha2010

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Well when we all mined on the first pool that crashed, we all have evidence that Mogui sent us the the private key with eTOK from the bank. So I hope with that evidence we will be refunded with the new eTOK. And with solo mined eTOK we also have evidence in wallet, am I right?

zsnorbi

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We should create an e-tok refund on a new blockchain, dev's holding will be canceled and original holders will be refunded.
For refund the user submits a screenshot about wallet and a csv exported transaction history. Transactions after the diff was 0-ed will not be considered to be refunded

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Quote from: BoeserKeller on January 22, 2014, 10:21:34 AM

Quote from: badam on January 22, 2014, 10:19:27 AM

Quote from: BoeserKeller on January 22, 2014, 10:13:43 AM

And what do you want to do with it ? And how do you want to do it ?
I am holding huge amounts of eToken that have been sent to me from the bank. What you are suggesting would be a complete restart, which would make the currency worthless.
The bank was established in the genesis block of the blockchain, no way to get rid of it clientwise without removing all transactions related to it (including many balances of the people who were holding something).
Besides starting all over would practically make this a new currency. IMO we either have to accept the presence of a bank account or this coin is dead (by intentionally killing it as you are suggesting)

Yes most of my coins are from the bank too, i am not saying it should be removed, but if we keep original blockchain then dev anytime can dump his 100k coins and everything you and i have will be completely worthless, it will be a futureless coin

Well right now I hold a percentage of a coin ...
If the dev dumps something, the coin will lose value of course - but thats still more then starting all over again with 0 etoken Cheesy

We can create a bank and send coins to people who want to change old tokens. Or something.

Need to go now.

BoeserKeller

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Quote from: badam on January 22, 2014, 10:19:27 AM

Quote from: BoeserKeller on January 22, 2014, 10:13:43 AM

And what do you want to do with it ? And how do you want to do it ?
I am holding huge amounts of eToken that have been sent to me from the bank. What you are suggesting would be a complete restart, which would make the currency worthless.
The bank was established in the genesis block of the blockchain, no way to get rid of it clientwise without removing all transactions related to it (including many balances of the people who were holding something).
Besides starting all over would practically make this a new currency. IMO we either have to accept the presence of a bank account or this coin is dead (by intentionally killing it as you are suggesting)

Yes most of my coins are from the bank too, i am not saying it should be removed, but if we keep original blockchain then dev anytime can dump his 100k coins and everything you and i have will be completely worthless, it will be a futureless coin

Well right now I hold a percentage of a coin ...
If the dev dumps something, the coin will lose value of course - but thats still more then starting all over again with 0 etoken Cheesy

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Quote from: BoeserKeller on January 22, 2014, 10:14:56 AM

Quote from: Mjollnir on January 22, 2014, 10:13:01 AM

Quote from: BoeserKeller on January 22, 2014, 10:07:44 AM

We don't need a new client from the scratch. We can just start over again where the fork happened ...
Starting all over is just plain nonsense and wouldn't get us anything (besides a new coin and a huge amount of lost work ...)

The balance you are talking about will not be lost if we fork again where the last fork happened Wink

I remember someone posted an updated client and put it on his pool with the right difficulty. Actually this is exactly what we need and we might want to keep that client up and keep mining on that pool - no need to rush anything because the solution would already be there.

There is the a change when the coin gets back on its feet. There will be 100.000 coins dumped Sad

I know the risk, maybe even more has already been dumped ... But there is simply no other way this can be managed. Lets assume someone has a few hundred etokens that have been sent to him from the bank. How would you reimburse him ? How could you be sure that this is not devs wallet?

We can not be 100% sure. We just are sure we can not give 100.000 new e-tokens Wink

. Maybe people have to submit a request or something. I want to try to get some facts straigt. I put them also in the forum i made. Just to have somesort of basis to work from. You can submit them here if you dont want to go my forum for it. I will copy paste it :-)

First block
http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/6dbe07b90ee30b2ce070683e0e913db11c929b3b26ca2513d895a811653ead0b#o0

Fact 138.921 coins

badam

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Quote from: BoeserKeller on January 22, 2014, 10:13:43 AM

And what do you want to do with it ? And how do you want to do it ?
I am holding huge amounts of eToken that have been sent to me from the bank. What you are suggesting would be a complete restart, which would make the currency worthless.
The bank was established in the genesis block of the blockchain, no way to get rid of it clientwise without removing all transactions related to it (including many balances of the people who were holding something).
Besides starting all over would practically make this a new currency. IMO we either have to accept the presence of a bank account or this coin is dead (by intentionally killing it as you are suggesting)

Yes most of my coins are from the bank too, i am not saying it should be removed, but if we keep original blockchain then dev anytime can dump his 100k coins and everything you and i have will be completely worthless, it will be a futureless coin

BoeserKeller

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Well, if basically my whole amount of etoken will be removed from the new coin I don't know why I should put any effort in it anymore?
I would rather have a decent amount of etoken where a bank might be dumped from the dev then having to start all over again.

mycointr

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Quote from: BoeserKeller on January 22, 2014, 10:07:44 AM

We don't need a new client from the scratch. We can just start over again where the fork happened ...
Starting all over is just plain nonsense and wouldn't get us anything (besides a new coin and a huge amount of lost work ...)

The balance you are talking about will not be lost if we fork again where the last fork happened Wink

I remember someone posted an updated client and put it on his pool with the right difficulty. Actually this is exactly what we need and we might want to keep that client up and keep mining on that pool - no need to rush anything because the solution would already be there.

u don't see big picture...

what if i have coins in my wallet before fork (old etok coins), and i pass to new blockchain after fork and sent my etok's to coinedup and sold them?

when you fork back to that point again, i'll have same amount of sold coins back to my wallet and btc at coinedup from sold ones...

i'm glad i realized what will come next and dumped all coins after Last1212 warned that coinedup is running on new wallet..

too messed up people, too messed up...

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Quote from: BoeserKeller on January 22, 2014, 10:13:43 AM

And what do you want to do with it ? And how do you want to do it ?
I am holding huge amounts of eToken that have been sent to me from the bank. What you are suggesting would be a complete restart, which would make the currency worthless.
The bank was established in the genesis block of the blockchain, no way to get rid of it clientwise without removing all transactions related to it (including many balances of the people who were holding something).
Besides starting all over would practically make this a new currency. IMO we either have to accept the presence of a bank account or this coin is dead (by intentionally killing it as you are suggesting)

Well i think the coin can not have real value again when there is this change that 100.000 coins are being dumped. A little like the stress bitcoin people get about the bitcoins from silkroad that went to FBI hehe.

And jep. It was the first block. Almost all my coins are from that block (bank).

BoeserKeller

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Quote from: Mjollnir on January 22, 2014, 10:13:01 AM

Quote from: BoeserKeller on January 22, 2014, 10:07:44 AM

We don't need a new client from the scratch. We can just start over again where the fork happened ...
Starting all over is just plain nonsense and wouldn't get us anything (besides a new coin and a huge amount of lost work ...)

The balance you are talking about will not be lost if we fork again where the last fork happened Wink

I remember someone posted an updated client and put it on his pool with the right difficulty. Actually this is exactly what we need and we might want to keep that client up and keep mining on that pool - no need to rush anything because the solution would already be there.

There is the a change when the coin gets back on its feet. There will be 100.000 coins dumped Sad

I know the risk, maybe even more has already been dumped ... But there is simply no other way this can be managed. Lets assume someone has a few hundred etokens that have been sent to him from the bank. How would you reimburse him ? How could you be sure that this is not devs wallet?

BoeserKeller

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And what do you want to do with it ? And how do you want to do it ?
I am holding huge amounts of eToken that have been sent to me from the bank. What you are suggesting would be a complete restart, which would make the currency worthless.
The bank was established in the genesis block of the blockchain, no way to get rid of it clientwise without removing all transactions related to it (including many balances of the people who were holding something).
Besides starting all over would practically make this a new currency. IMO we either have to accept the presence of a bank account or this coin is dead (by intentionally killing it as you are suggesting)

Mjollnir

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Quote from: BoeserKeller on January 22, 2014, 10:07:44 AM

We don't need a new client from the scratch. We can just start over again where the fork happened ...
Starting all over is just plain nonsense and wouldn't get us anything (besides a new coin and a huge amount of lost work ...)

The balance you are talking about will not be lost if we fork again where the last fork happened Wink

I remember someone posted an updated client and put it on his pool with the right difficulty. Actually this is exactly what we need and we might want to keep that client up and keep mining on that pool - no need to rush anything because the solution would already be there.

There is the a change when the coin gets back on its feet. There will be 100.000 coins dumped Sad

badam

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Quote from: BoeserKeller on January 22, 2014, 10:07:44 AM

We don't need a new client from the scratch. We can just start over again where the fork happened ...
Starting all over is just plain nonsense and wouldn't get us anything (besides a new coin and a huge amount of lost work ...)

The balance you are talking about will not be lost if we fork again where the last fork happened Wink

I remember someone posted an updated client and put it on his pool with the right difficulty. Actually this is exactly what we need and we might want to keep that client up and keep mining on that pool - no need to rush anything because the solution would already be there.

The problem is with dev's premine. Without getting rid of that takeover cannot happen.

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Quote from: Solidchance on January 22, 2014, 09:42:17 AM

Okay guys i gotta go to work but we are in the process of figuring out a plan to make it fair, if im not mistaken we had around 80k coins that where actually mined but coinmarketcap was showing over 200k so obviosly i think the bank was overfunded, doest need to be that big for a 900k cap, so thats a starting point plus we are gonna have to pay the new programmer to set up the mac/windows client and im wanting a gravity well set up also, we might have to set up the first mined block in order to distribute the original funds, pay the programer, etc...

The original bank was 138.000

BoeserKeller

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We don't need a new client from the scratch. We can just start over again where the fork happened ...
Starting all over is just plain nonsense and wouldn't get us anything (besides a new coin and a huge amount of lost work ...)

The balance you are talking about will not be lost if we fork again where the last fork happened Wink

I remember someone posted an updated client and put it on his pool with the right difficulty. Actually this is exactly what we need and we might want to keep that client up and keep mining on that pool - no need to rush anything because the solution would already be there.

Solidchance

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Okay guys i gotta go to work but we are in the process of figuring out a plan to make it fair, if im not mistaken we had around 80k coins that where actually mined but coinmarketcap was showing over 200k so obviosly i think the bank was overfunded, doest need to be that big for a 900k cap, so thats a starting point plus we are gonna have to pay the new programmer to set up the mac/windows client and im wanting a gravity well set up also, we might have to set up the first mined block in order to distribute the original funds, pay the programer, etc...

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