anyone can indeed click on my name and see i was right on most my market calls on FCT...I invite everyone to do so...
and they will soon understand listening to perma-bulls such like you or Ivan isn't gonna help them....
Topic: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping - page 170. (Read 2115898 times)
Can a mod delete any more XEM posts, this thread is about discussing Factom. Take the XEM discussion here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.28540 and stop hijacking the thread, thanks.
+1, this thread is about FCT.
XEM volume and value are going down like hell, soon it will be of zero relevance joining coins like 1CR, rofl...so these XEM trolls are now going into overdrive. The fact that you have to spam the thread of the competing (and miles ahead) technology with spam about a shitcoin is just saying a lot about the same shitcoin.
+2. The NEM/XEM posts began with GrossBit and were followed up by his minions, as has been the case with 3-4 other "controversies" and FUD campaigns over the past two months. Check the histories.
I realize some people on here are nonconfrontational, and some may actually be confused by the sophistication of these guys. If I hadn't spent my professional life studying language and rhetoric, I may have been confused as well.
The latest posts from Troll #1 and a minion (or puppet), just FYI:
https://www.reddit.com/r/factom/comments/5bumdv/fct_price_trading_weekly_discussion_week_of/
Reminds me of a quote from Tennyson: “A lie that is half-truth is the darkest of all lies.”
I'll also repeat what I wrote weeks ago, that one of the main problems with this kind of trolling is that it becomes difficult to tell real criticism from FUD. Factom does indeed have its problems and uncertainties, and all this "crying wolf" threatens to obfuscate the real issues when they arise.
Anyway, looking forward to M2 when the trolls have a change of heart—or disappear, and another round of noob hypers jump on board, with remarkably similar writing styles to the previous trolls ...
Great post. Couldnt agree with all you wrote more.
if you quote me, quote me fully
No one quoted you. The only direct quote above was from Tennyson. You realize you're not Alfred Tennyson, correct?
1- i've turned ST bullish on FCT a few posts ago (up to 0.0041-0.0425 area) and favour a BTD approach from now on.
2- Ostrich policy won't help you make good investing decisions. XEM volume is much lower than FCT. There are quite some negatives on this coin
but this Apostille announcement is a new positive surprising element in a coin which had been in a constant declining trend for a while.
At this stage, XEM market cap is more than twice FCT (but volumes much lower). You'd be an idiot to ignore whats going on in this coin
No sh*t you've turned "ST bullish" on FCT. As I wrote a week ago, "Looking forward to FCT's trolls having a sudden 'change of heart' as they finish collecting and move into phase 2: pump." 1-2 months from now you'll either be FCT's #1 hyper or a noob will be, with a strangely similar writing style to yours.
At this stage, XEM market cap is more than twice FCT (but volumes much lower). You'd be an idiot to ignore whats going on in this coin
When did anyone suggest ignoring XEM? Each coin has its merits. And not sure what’s up with the straw man attacks, but they have about as much relevance as your comments on FCT.
BTW this is actually a strange coin to be trolling, given its subhead “Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping,” and the fact that anyone can verify your history of FUD by clicking on your name.
Can a mod delete any more XEM posts, this thread is about discussing Factom. Take the XEM discussion here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.28540 and stop hijacking the thread, thanks.
+1, this thread is about FCT.
XEM volume and value are going down like hell, soon it will be of zero relevance joining coins like 1CR, rofl...so these XEM trolls are now going into overdrive. The fact that you have to spam the thread of the competing (and miles ahead) technology with spam about a shitcoin is just saying a lot about the same shitcoin.
+2. The NEM/XEM posts began with GrossBit and were followed up by his minions, as has been the case with 3-4 other "controversies" and FUD campaigns over the past two months. Check the histories.
I realize some people on here are nonconfrontational, and some may actually be confused by the sophistication of these guys. If I hadn't spent my professional life studying language and rhetoric, I may have been confused as well.
The latest posts from Troll #1 and a minion (or puppet), just FYI:
https://www.reddit.com/r/factom/comments/5bumdv/fct_price_trading_weekly_discussion_week_of/
Reminds me of a quote from Tennyson: “A lie that is half-truth is the darkest of all lies.”
I'll also repeat what I wrote weeks ago, that one of the main problems with this kind of trolling is that it becomes difficult to tell real criticism from FUD. Factom does indeed have its problems and uncertainties, and all this "crying wolf" threatens to obfuscate the real issues when they arise.
Anyway, looking forward to M2 when the trolls have a change of heart—or disappear, and another round of noob hypers jump on board, with remarkably similar writing styles to the previous trolls ...
Great post. Couldnt agree with all you wrote more.
if you quote me, quote me fully
1- i've turned ST bullish on FCT a few posts ago (up to 0.0041-0.0425 area) and favour a BTD approach from now on.
2- Ostrich policy won't help you make good investing decisions. XEM volume is much lower than FCT. There are quite some negatives on this coin
but this Apostille announcement is a new positive surprising element in a coin which had been in a constant declining trend for a while.
At this stage, XEM market cap is more than twice FCT (but volumes much lower). You'd be an idiot to ignore whats going on in this coin
Can a mod delete any more XEM posts, this thread is about discussing Factom. Take the XEM discussion here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.28540 and stop hijacking the thread, thanks.
+1, this thread is about FCT.
XEM volume and value are going down like hell, soon it will be of zero relevance joining coins like 1CR, rofl...so these XEM trolls are now going into overdrive. The fact that you have to spam the thread of the competing (and miles ahead) technology with spam about a shitcoin is just saying a lot about the same shitcoin.
+2. The NEM/XEM posts began with GrossBit and were followed up by his minions, as has been the case with 3-4 other "controversies" and FUD campaigns over the past two months. Check the histories.
I realize some people on here are nonconfrontational, and some may actually be confused by the sophistication of these guys. If I hadn't spent my professional life studying language and rhetoric, I may have been confused as well.
The latest posts from Troll #1 and a minion (or puppet), just FYI:
https://www.reddit.com/r/factom/comments/5bumdv/fct_price_trading_weekly_discussion_week_of/
Reminds me of a quote from Tennyson: “A lie that is half-truth is the darkest of all lies.”
I'll also repeat what I wrote weeks ago, that one of the main problems with this kind of trolling is that it becomes difficult to tell real criticism from FUD. Factom does indeed have its problems and uncertainties, and all this "crying wolf" threatens to obfuscate the real issues when they arise.
Anyway, looking forward to M2 when the trolls have a change of heart—or disappear, and another round of noob hypers jump on board, with remarkably similar writing styles to the previous trolls ...
Great post. Couldnt agree with all you wrote more.
Can a mod delete any more XEM posts, this thread is about discussing Factom. Take the XEM discussion here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.28540 and stop hijacking the thread, thanks.
+1, this thread is about FCT.
XEM volume and value are going down like hell, soon it will be of zero relevance joining coins like 1CR, rofl...so these XEM trolls are now going into overdrive. The fact that you have to spam the thread of the competing (and miles ahead) technology with spam about a shitcoin is just saying a lot about the same shitcoin.
+2. The NEM/XEM posts began with GrossBit and were followed up by his minions, as has been the case with 3-4 other "controversies" and FUD campaigns over the past two months. Check the histories.
I realize some people on here are nonconfrontational, and some may actually be confused by the sophistication of these guys. If I hadn't spent my professional life studying language and rhetoric, I may have been confused as well.
The latest posts from Troll #1 and a minion (or puppet), just FYI:
https://www.reddit.com/r/factom/comments/5bumdv/fct_price_trading_weekly_discussion_week_of/
Reminds me of a quote from Tennyson: “A lie that is half-truth is the darkest of all lies.”
I'll also repeat what I wrote weeks ago, that one of the main problems with this kind of trolling is that it becomes difficult to tell real criticism from FUD. Factom does indeed have its problems and uncertainties, and all this "crying wolf" threatens to obfuscate the real issues when they arise.
Anyway, looking forward to M2 when the trolls have a change of heart—or disappear, and another round of noob hypers jump on board, with remarkably similar writing styles to the previous trolls ...
Hope for m2 to come out before dec
I plan on holding my FCT for around 3 years by which time I expect Factom to have made some big deals and have high entry credit usage. If I've learned anything from the past few years its to keep holding longer than feels natural. If you can 'out-hold' the rest of the market on a good investment, you win. This is one of the major reasons its easier to make more money if you already have plenty because you are less emotionally involved, so you can just leave it where it is and keep holding for much longer without feeling anything. This is from someone who is up about x20 from their original investment into crypto a number of years ago. I would have been up more like x100 if I'd kept holding, won't make that mistake again.
In 3 years there will be no Factom. It's already obsolete from Apostille.
Tell this to Tim Draper and his millions on Factom. Please STOP talking nem, xem or whatever, go the right topic.
I plan on holding my FCT for around 3 years by which time I expect Factom to have made some big deals and have high entry credit usage. If I've learned anything from the past few years its to keep holding longer than feels natural. If you can 'out-hold' the rest of the market on a good investment, you win. This is one of the major reasons its easier to make more money if you already have plenty because you are less emotionally involved, so you can just leave it where it is and keep holding for much longer without feeling anything. This is from someone who is up about x20 from their original investment into crypto a number of years ago. I would have been up more like x100 if I'd kept holding, won't make that mistake again.
In 3 years there will be no Factom. It's already obsolete from Apostille.
I haven't looked into this Apostle thing, but even if it were a better product, Factom has a much bigger and better team and is a lot further along in the business side of things in terms of funding (a big deal) and potential partnerships.
I plan on holding my FCT for around 3 years by which time I expect Factom to have made some big deals and have high entry credit usage. If I've learned anything from the past few years its to keep holding longer than feels natural. If you can 'out-hold' the rest of the market on a good investment, you win. This is one of the major reasons its easier to make more money if you already have plenty because you are less emotionally involved, so you can just leave it where it is and keep holding for much longer without feeling anything. This is from someone who is up about x20 from their original investment into crypto a number of years ago. I would have been up more like x100 if I'd kept holding, won't make that mistake again.
In 3 years there will be no Factom. It's already obsolete from Apostille.
FCT is looking holding strong now and it really looks like it's about to breakout.
Nah, just another wave of ping pong. Next breakout will be in a couple of weeks, just before M2. In the meantime, speculators ll take advantage of noobs and pump and dump the price.
FCT is looking holding strong now and it really looks like it's about to breakout.
Really? So this means we re irrelevant from Factom viewpoint?
Bought in bnktothefuture and own fct, still don't think there's any need to rush, do it right the first time. Can't see any problems with testnet so far, but too many crypto companies rushing things out the door. DAO anyone? There's no need for these guys to hurry, they aren't DASH/XMR/ZCASH all fighting it out in the same space.
Plenty of people think there's competitors, but have looked at them all and they ain't even playing the same game, yet to see one viable alternative who offers anything close to what Factom does. Take my dollars well seriously hey and this my observations.
Really don't mind, personally. Let them do what they do, seems to be working out fine for them.
Sure I want a good, finished product. Sure, I want it to be bug free. Sure, I understand we re not Factom target group.
But I do mind if somebody where I invested my money does not care about me, according to you. It s the heart of capitalism, investors and customers should never be put aside. Cause both groups can damage the company.
Really? So this means we re irrelevant from Factom viewpoint?
Bought in bnktothefuture and own fct, still don't think there's any need to rush, do it right the first time. Can't see any problems with testnet so far, but too many crypto companies rushing things out the door. DAO anyone? There's no need for these guys to hurry, they aren't DASH/XMR/ZCASH all fighting it out in the same space.
Plenty of people think there's competitors, but have looked at them all and they ain't even playing the same game, yet to see one viable alternative who offers anything close to what Factom does. Take my dollars well seriously hey and this my observations.
Really don't mind, personally. Let them do what they do, seems to be working out fine for them.
I plan on holding my FCT for around 3 years by which time I expect Factom to have made some big deals and have high entry credit usage. If I've learned anything from the past few years its to keep holding longer than feels natural. If you can 'out-hold' the rest of the market on a good investment, you win. This is one of the major reasons its easier to make more money if you already have plenty because you are less emotionally involved, so you can just leave it where it is and keep holding for much longer without feeling anything. This is from someone who is up about x20 from their original investment into crypto a number of years ago. I would have been up more like x100 if I'd kept holding, won't make that mistake again.
yep let the big boys (for now) gamble on margin, the 5k-10k fct boys will be bigg when the bigger ones decide to leave
BTW in some sense, BTC is already inferior to many other newer blockchains
Factom is really a BTC/ETH app and inherits from the security of those 2 blockchains.
XEM would be better IF its security was equivalent to BTC which it has no chance.
I rearranged your post a little to analyze it. Can you clarify your argument as to why NEM isn't as secure as BTC and which alts you consider superior to BTC?
XEM or really any other blockchain today isn't as secure as BTC because the tiny size of their network make it vulnerable to things similar to 51% attack...
detractors of BTC would point out that a lot of BTC nodes are in China, which is not a good thing either.
on the specs side, XEM and many other blockchains are superior to BTC.... XMR has stronger anonymity, ETH has smart contracts, etc...
u should be very careful to make such a statment
XEM spamming fully engaged because XEM is dumping, rofl
I plan on holding my FCT for around 3 years by which time I expect Factom to have made some big deals and have high entry credit usage. If I've learned anything from the past few years its to keep holding longer than feels natural. If you can 'out-hold' the rest of the market on a good investment, you win. This is one of the major reasons its easier to make more money if you already have plenty because you are less emotionally involved, so you can just leave it where it is and keep holding for much longer without feeling anything. This is from someone who is up about x20 from their original investment into crypto a number of years ago. I would have been up more like x100 if I'd kept holding, won't make that mistake again.
But when m3 will be released there's emission will increase. I plan on holding my FCT for around 3 years by which time I expect Factom to have made some big deals and have high entry credit usage. If I've learned anything from the past few years its to keep holding longer than feels natural. If you can 'out-hold' the rest of the market on a good investment, you win. This is one of the major reasons its easier to make more money if you already have plenty because you are less emotionally involved, so you can just leave it where it is and keep holding for much longer without feeling anything. This is from someone who is up about x20 from their original investment into crypto a number of years ago. I would have been up more like x100 if I'd kept holding, won't make that mistake again.
Hmmm, I have a completely different experience. I kept holding in many cases when candles were red, expecting rebounds. In most cases, they never came. I m also at least 15x up compared to my initial investments. However, it took me time to understand when to get out as well as when to get in. I hope I ve learned to follow red candles as well.
I plan on holding my FCT for around 3 years by which time I expect Factom to have made some big deals and have high entry credit usage. If I've learned anything from the past few years its to keep holding longer than feels natural. If you can 'out-hold' the rest of the market on a good investment, you win. This is one of the major reasons its easier to make more money if you already have plenty because you are less emotionally involved, so you can just leave it where it is and keep holding for much longer without feeling anything. This is from someone who is up about x20 from their original investment into crypto a number of years ago. I would have been up more like x100 if I'd kept holding, won't make that mistake again.
BTW in some sense, BTC is already inferior to many other newer blockchains
Factom is really a BTC/ETH app and inherits from the security of those 2 blockchains.
XEM would be better IF its security was equivalent to BTC which it has no chance.
I rearranged your post a little to analyze it. Can you clarify your argument as to why NEM isn't as secure as BTC and which alts you consider superior to BTC?
XEM or really any other blockchain today isn't as secure as BTC because the tiny size of their network make it vulnerable to things similar to 51% attack...
detractors of BTC would point out that a lot of BTC nodes are in China, which is not a good thing either.
on the specs side, XEM and many other blockchains are superior to BTC.... XMR has stronger anonymity, ETH has smart contracts, etc...
u should be very careful to make such a statment
how many fullnodes bitcoin network have
how man different nodes produce 80% of the blocks
how many fullnodes NEM network have
how man different nodes produce 80% of the blocks
u would be surprised how deepend bitcoin blockproduction is towards 5 top mining pools
and most of them in china
bitcoin decentral?
mining all around the globe secure it?
what a illusion
bitcoin is full in chinese hands
a deeper analysis will show ya that the nem way secure the chain is superior
and if bitcoin chain is the only advantage u think factom have above NEM apostille
then u should question urself whats the true holy grail here.....
or a bit less black white
if they not at least similar interesting solutions
FCT for sure have a advantage by already established contracts
but from technological view NEM apostille is a solution that is equal powerful
and simpler in complexity
and
simple is beautiful
https://blog.nem.io/apostille/
I think the Factom team has been pretty candid regarding their stance on the price of factom (they're not that bothered about the value), since they aren't planning to make money selling factoids (at least we hope they aren't doing that!) - This makes the whole project unique in the crypto space. Notice they don't relentlessly market factoids to you're standard ancaps because that isn't the business case - and it means we don't get the standard dev pumps everytime a new release comes out. The rise in price is more organic. On the downside, until the business case becomes achievable, the market will continue to swing like a pendulum.
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