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Topic: [ANN] FACTOM - Introducing Honesty to Record-Keeping - page 83. (Read 2115898 times)

legendary
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Factom s definitely pick number 1 on the market. The problem is the market does not know that cause the team does not know how to promote it. Unless the goal is not to promote its services to keep the price low. In that case, most of here re in the wrong market.

I recall you saying you're a seasoned crypto veteran, but you consistently act like you're completely new to the scene or just over-invested. People complained similarly about a lack of Ethereum PR just over one year ago. Back when /r/ethtrader had maybe 400 subs. I think their marketing was in the hands of some girl called Linda. No, it wasn't great, but look at where they're at now? Apparently, they didn't NEED the exposure and PR. They were far from a finished product back then. They still aren't.


Yes, yes, I ve heard that story before, not finished product, big stuff ahead, bright future, no need for marketing, it ll sell itself.

You know how many coin forum threads here on this forum contained those words and posts. Almost EVERY SINGLE ONE. Let me just name a few, Hyperstake! TEK coin. Then Solarcoin. Then Clam. NEM also. I could go on and on about the list of coins very even remember. Most of them are dead of about to die soon.

Why? Cause as in every other capitalist market, competition s very harsh and only the best ones survive. Also, every marketing expert will tell you a successful startup needs to invest as much as 50% of their revenues into marketing to keep the business afloat.

If you do take an average crypto portal, let say coindesk, look at their home page.

Out of 10 articles I see, 3 are about Etherum

http://www.coindesk.com/disruption-not-included-ethereum-alliance-spotlights-blockchains-startup-shift/

http://www.coindesk.com/vitalik-buterin-calls-collaboration-enterprise-ethereum-launch/

http://www.coindesk.com/big-corporates-unite-for-launch-of-enterprise-ethereum-alliance/

How many of them is about Factom? How many articles you can find about Factom published in the last MONTH? I dont think you can find 3 in the entire February.

This means all attention goes to Ether, it s not that hard to figure that out. It also means every new investor getting into crypto ll end up in Ether or Dash, 99%.

So where s Factom in this story? We can argue Factom does not target small investors and it does not target institutional investors but it targets companies.

How are companies going to learn about Factom? Magic ball? Pigeon mail? How?

So you tell me in what universe it does not pay for Factom to do some good old fashioned marketing? Not cause they should pump up the token price. Because marketing brings CUSTOMERS, brings COMPANIES. Unless you re gonna argue they have so many clients they dont know what to do with them. You can follow Factom burn rate to figure that one out.

I understand I m gonna be attacked by usual cave trolls again telling me to move into Ether or North Pole but you see, I m an early ICQ investor and I want as much return for my buck. The only way I see that happening is for the world to hear about Factom. Not you or me, who ve been into crypto for ages, but ORDINARY companies who might need Factom service. If there s some other way to spread the news to them about a great product, please do educate me, always willing to learn something new.

Shoot trolls. Smiley

No one cares, or should care, about topics selected by crypto news websites. Blockchain isn't very exciting, you know. It's boring. A a result, most SERIOUS blockchain companies will be boring, too. Factom isn't very exciting. In fact, ANY crypto project that tries to sound exciting, the best new thing since McDonalds, should be treated very cautiously indeed. Look at LISK. That's 50% marketing and 50% people being gullible fools. They have absolutely zero to offer on a technical level.

Secondly, Factom's approach is B2B. Not B2C. That's another reason why you won't see them very often. You're not a business. Out of all of the projects you listed as an example, this is actually one of the FEW projects that have good long-term prospects. Bill Gates, Tim Draper? Yeah. Word of mouth from these types of guys will be pretty effective, too.

I'm going to have to disagree with you there.
Factom is very far from boring look at the companys their working with and what they will do for accountability and clarity to that's about as exiting as it gets in crypto and to me it looks very sexy.
Ok the current Price might not reflect that but that just means its Cheap to buy more Smiley

legendary
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This is big! https://www.reddit.com/r/factom/comments/5wy36z/factom_launches_revolutionary_blockchain_mortgage/

BrianDeery
This is a use case we have been imagining since well before the network launched. This video is a hypothetical from 2014. We are converting this from hypothetical to reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-aFyep2R9I

Factom makes an excellent document management system, and mortgages are full of big record-keeping problems.

That s nice. Let s see how Factom marketing s going to work this time. Unless there s someone here who thinks this is not the news to share on every possible marketing channel.
hero member
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This is big! https://www.reddit.com/r/factom/comments/5wy36z/factom_launches_revolutionary_blockchain_mortgage/

BrianDeery
This is a use case we have been imagining since well before the network launched. This video is a hypothetical from 2014. We are converting this from hypothetical to reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-aFyep2R9I

Factom makes an excellent document management system, and mortgages are full of big record-keeping problems.
hero member
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I don't worry about FCT works talk more than any news. The only think I think it is big mistake - they haven't any user interface wallet yet. Stay calm and wait you will be rewarded
legendary
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I think that FACTOM slowly dying. just look at the buying and selling ratio.

They quickly die with such marketing when inflation comes.
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I think that FACTOM slowly dying. just look at the buying and selling ratio.
legendary
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I agree they re B2B, ordinary people re not their target group. But this poses the next question, if u were a Factom CEO and think that way, would like your token price to skyrocket or not?

Both sides have obvious advantages and disadvantages.


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Factom s definitely pick number 1 on the market. The problem is the market does not know that cause the team does not know how to promote it. Unless the goal is not to promote its services to keep the price low. In that case, most of here re in the wrong market.

I recall you saying you're a seasoned crypto veteran, but you consistently act like you're completely new to the scene or just over-invested. People complained similarly about a lack of Ethereum PR just over one year ago. Back when /r/ethtrader had maybe 400 subs. I think their marketing was in the hands of some girl called Linda. No, it wasn't great, but look at where they're at now? Apparently, they didn't NEED the exposure and PR. They were far from a finished product back then. They still aren't.


Yes, yes, I ve heard that story before, not finished product, big stuff ahead, bright future, no need for marketing, it ll sell itself.

You know how many coin forum threads here on this forum contained those words and posts. Almost EVERY SINGLE ONE. Let me just name a few, Hyperstake! TEK coin. Then Solarcoin. Then Clam. NEM also. I could go on and on about the list of coins very even remember. Most of them are dead of about to die soon.

Why? Cause as in every other capitalist market, competition s very harsh and only the best ones survive. Also, every marketing expert will tell you a successful startup needs to invest as much as 50% of their revenues into marketing to keep the business afloat.

If you do take an average crypto portal, let say coindesk, look at their home page.

Out of 10 articles I see, 3 are about Etherum

http://www.coindesk.com/disruption-not-included-ethereum-alliance-spotlights-blockchains-startup-shift/

http://www.coindesk.com/vitalik-buterin-calls-collaboration-enterprise-ethereum-launch/

http://www.coindesk.com/big-corporates-unite-for-launch-of-enterprise-ethereum-alliance/

How many of them is about Factom? How many articles you can find about Factom published in the last MONTH? I dont think you can find 3 in the entire February.

This means all attention goes to Ether, it s not that hard to figure that out. It also means every new investor getting into crypto ll end up in Ether or Dash, 99%.

So where s Factom in this story? We can argue Factom does not target small investors and it does not target institutional investors but it targets companies.

How are companies going to learn about Factom? Magic ball? Pigeon mail? How?

So you tell me in what universe it does not pay for Factom to do some good old fashioned marketing? Not cause they should pump up the token price. Because marketing brings CUSTOMERS, brings COMPANIES. Unless you re gonna argue they have so many clients they dont know what to do with them. You can follow Factom burn rate to figure that one out.

I understand I m gonna be attacked by usual cave trolls again telling me to move into Ether or North Pole but you see, I m an early ICQ investor and I want as much return for my buck. The only way I see that happening is for the world to hear about Factom. Not you or me, who ve been into crypto for ages, but ORDINARY companies who might need Factom service. If there s some other way to spread the news to them about a great product, please do educate me, always willing to learn something new.

Shoot trolls. Smiley

No one cares, or should care, about topics selected by crypto news websites. Blockchain isn't very exciting, you know. It's boring. A a result, most SERIOUS blockchain companies will be boring, too. Factom isn't very exciting. In fact, ANY crypto project that tries to sound exciting, the best new thing since McDonalds, should be treated very cautiously indeed. Look at LISK. That's 50% marketing and 50% people being gullible fools. They have absolutely zero to offer on a technical level.

Secondly, Factom's approach is B2B. Not B2C. That's another reason why you won't see them very often. You're not a business. Out of all of the projects you listed as an example, this is actually one of the FEW projects that have good long-term prospects. Bill Gates, Tim Draper? Yeah. Word of mouth from these types of guys will be pretty effective, too.
legendary
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You are talking too much Smiley

I do. Especially when I am upset.

Upset about people not identifying obvious stuff. Like the fact business re not going to choose a product if they do not know about it or if sales pitch has not been presented to them.

But what can I do about it besides talk or get out, right.

So I ll go waste my time on something I can influence.
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You are talking too much Smiley
legendary
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Factom s definitely pick number 1 on the market. The problem is the market does not know that cause the team does not know how to promote it. Unless the goal is not to promote its services to keep the price low. In that case, most of here re in the wrong market.

I recall you saying you're a seasoned crypto veteran, but you consistently act like you're completely new to the scene or just over-invested. People complained similarly about a lack of Ethereum PR just over one year ago. Back when /r/ethtrader had maybe 400 subs. I think their marketing was in the hands of some girl called Linda. No, it wasn't great, but look at where they're at now? Apparently, they didn't NEED the exposure and PR. They were far from a finished product back then. They still aren't.


Yes, yes, I ve heard that story before, not finished product, big stuff ahead, bright future, no need for marketing, it ll sell itself.

You know how many coin forum threads here on this forum contained those words and posts. Almost EVERY SINGLE ONE. Let me just name a few, Hyperstake! TEK coin. Then Solarcoin. Then Clam. NEM also. I could go on and on about the list of coins very even remember. Most of them are dead of about to die soon.

Why? Cause as in every other capitalist market, competition s very harsh and only the best ones survive. Also, every marketing expert will tell you a successful startup needs to invest as much as 50% of their revenues into marketing to keep the business afloat.

If you do take an average crypto portal, let say coindesk, look at their home page.

Out of 10 articles I see, 3 are about Etherum

http://www.coindesk.com/disruption-not-included-ethereum-alliance-spotlights-blockchains-startup-shift/

http://www.coindesk.com/vitalik-buterin-calls-collaboration-enterprise-ethereum-launch/

http://www.coindesk.com/big-corporates-unite-for-launch-of-enterprise-ethereum-alliance/

How many of them is about Factom? How many articles you can find about Factom published in the last MONTH? I dont think you can find 3 in the entire February.

This means all attention goes to Ether, it s not that hard to figure that out. It also means every new investor getting into crypto ll end up in Ether or Dash, 99%.

So where s Factom in this story? We can argue Factom does not target small investors and it does not target institutional investors but it targets companies.

How are companies going to learn about Factom? Magic ball? Pigeon mail? How?

So you tell me in what universe it does not pay for Factom to do some good old fashioned marketing? Not cause they should pump up the token price. Because marketing brings CUSTOMERS, brings COMPANIES. Unless you re gonna argue they have so many clients they dont know what to do with them. You can follow Factom burn rate to figure that one out.

I understand I m gonna be attacked by usual cave trolls again telling me to move into Ether or North Pole but you see, I m an early ICQ investor and I want as much return for my buck. The only way I see that happening is for the world to hear about Factom. Not you or me, who ve been into crypto for ages, but ORDINARY companies who might need Factom service. If there s some other way to spread the news to them about a great product, please do educate me, always willing to learn something new.

Shoot trolls. Smiley
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Factom s definitely pick number 1 on the market. The problem is the market does not know that cause the team does not know how to promote it. Unless the goal is not to promote its services to keep the price low. In that case, most of here re in the wrong market.

I recall you saying you're a seasoned crypto veteran, but you consistently act like you're completely new to the scene or just over-invested. People complained similarly about a lack of Ethereum PR just over one year ago. Back when /r/ethtrader had maybe 400 subs. I think their marketing was in the hands of some girl called Linda. No, it wasn't great, but look at where they're at now? Apparently, they didn't NEED the exposure and PR. They were far from a finished product back then. They still aren't.
legendary
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Factom s definitely pick number 1 on the market. The problem is the market does not know that cause the team does not know how to promote it. Unless the goal is not to promote its services to keep the price low. In that case, most of here re in the wrong market.
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Despite the current price I still think that Factom has a lot of room for growth this year. It is possible 0.01...
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can anyone post slack invite please?
legendary
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Why dont u join the slack so u dont have to ask for updates ?
It's a good question. Perhaps I haven't enough time.

What movement? I do not see anything at all? The price s been stagnant for a few days.

I dont see any type of STRANGE Movement..

Factom was moving parallel to btc that unusual for it and now it's still above 0.0025 that very high for it.
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There's a strange movement on factom now. Is it because of SFIndustryG conference? or any news on slack?

I dont see any type of STRANGE Movement..
legendary
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There's a strange movement on factom now. Is it because of SFIndustryG conference? or any news on slack?

What movement? I do not see anything at all? The price s been stagnant for a few days.
hero member
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There's a strange movement on factom now. Is it because of SFIndustryG conference? or any news on slack?

Why dont u join the slack so u dont have to ask for updates ?
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