[ANN] FlutterCoin FLT Proof Of Transaction Cash Back for Sending & Recieving - page 108.

Traderberg

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Quote from: mikeymillie on May 05, 2014, 12:24:03 PM

These are all valid points and as someone who has a pretty good grasp of pump and dump mechanics I agree that this happens and is part of the picture with FLT.

But the fact is, these things are done all the time, in all coins with any volume in them, and it usually does not murder the coin so completely as has happened to FLT.

Only coins with significant (50btc +) daily volume are experiencing these mechanics in a scale big enough to be worth looking at. Any other low volume coin is irrelevant – the idea of course is still there, but the market isn't pushed in either direction and nobody gives a crap. Nobody murdered FLT, just consider the price swings as opportunities. There's no point in maintaining high price if you didn't buy low, get it? And given how susceptible to emotions all cryptotraders are, why not repeat the process over and over?

FLT is a good coin with solid market action (see consistent trade volume) and attentions from all traders. It's not worth it to push the price up/down in a coin that nobody cares about – you need to buy-in and cash-out at some points and for that you need real volume (not fake) ...

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Quote from: Spekkoper on May 05, 2014, 08:24:51 AM

Quote from: CryptoGuy2014 on May 04, 2014, 02:18:02 AM

Added 250,000 more FlutterCoin to my wallet thanks to all those who sold below 980!!!!

All my profits are because people like you!!!

Learn to HODL Noobs

Sooo how much is your profit now??! Grin

Nice wallet bro thank the noobs

mikeymillie

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Quote from: Traderberg on May 05, 2014, 12:17:33 PM

If you wonder why people are selling FLT at 600–700 level, you need to understand the herd psychology. Most of the sell pressure is fake (I admit I used several hundred thousands to push into my own low buy orders + dumped into my walls several times). If people are stupid enough to panic, I see no reason for me not to profit from their stupidity Grin

Just for fun, I used my twitter (~1900 followers) to expose every step during the last complete FLT cycle (900 -> 2500 -> 600 -> 2800), clearly showing the accumulation, mark-ups and the distribution phase. I even said when I sold and rebought during the exponential rise. Nevertheless, it didn't have any effect and hardly anyone believed/learned from it.

If you have brains, you would notice at least a few factors:

– FLT maintains over 100btc daily volume for weeks, the market isn't dead or dying by a long shot (just in case you haven't noticed lol Roll Eyes

)
– Oversized sellwalls at key price levels (far from the trading price, just in case)
– Small and distributed buy orders that reappear each time after being sold into
– Spam sells (10/100 coins) to hide the whole orderbook from the MintPal / CrypTrader page

These are all valid points and as someone who has a pretty good grasp of pump and dump mechanics I agree that this happens and is part of the picture with FLT.

But the fact is, these things are done all the time, in all coins with any volume in them, and it usually does not murder the coin so completely as has happened to FLT.

akk123

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Quote from: CryptoGuy2014 on May 05, 2014, 12:05:27 PM

The way to beat the dump is to BUY, there is always a bottom and then its up from there, trust me I bought BTC at $800 just to watch in horror as it dropped to $440 just a few weeks later.

But I bought more at about $443 and then made up for any losses because of buying at the low.

We won't see it go below 600, unless some whale drops all they have on the markets, even then it seems there is a growing interest in the coin at its current price.

I have about 12-14 BTC invested in FlutterCoin, I will HOLD much to my dismay of the current prices.

It is like every other crypto on the market currently, we saw 1000+ BTC trade volumes just a month ago, now most are doing 20-30 BTC trade volumes.

Just wait it out and there will be a explosion on the market and prices will skyrocket in a matter of hours.

OFFICIAL FLT THREAD HERE:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/flt-fluttercoin-official-thread-flt-596673

Let's make a fresh start here.

Why is this change?

Traderberg

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If you wonder why people are selling FLT at 600–700 level, you need to understand the herd psychology. Most of the sell pressure is fake (I admit I used several hundred thousands to push into my own low buy orders + dumped into my walls several times). If people are stupid enough to panic, I see no reason for me not to profit from their stupidity Grin

Just for fun, I used my twitter (~1900 followers) to expose every step during the last complete FLT cycle (900 -> 2500 -> 600 -> 2800), clearly showing the accumulation, mark-ups and the distribution phase. I even said when I sold and rebought during the exponential rise. Nevertheless, it didn't have any effect and hardly anyone believed/learned from it.

If you have brains, you would notice at least a few factors:

– FLT maintains over 100btc daily volume for weeks, the market isn't dead or dying by a long shot (just in case you haven't noticed lol Roll Eyes

)
– Oversized sellwalls at key price levels (far from the trading price, just in case)
– Small and distributed buy orders that reappear each time after being sold into
– Spam sells (10/100 coins) to hide the whole orderbook from the MintPal / CrypTrader page

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Quote from: CryptoGuy2014 on May 05, 2014, 12:05:27 PM

The way to beat the dump is to BUY, there is always a bottom and then its up from there, trust me I bought BTC at $800 just to watch in horror as it dropped to $440 just a few weeks later.

But I bought more at about $443 and then made up for any losses because of buying at the low.

We won't see it go below 600, unless some whale drops all they have on the markets, even then it seems there is a growing interest in the coin at its current price.

I have about 12-14 BTC invested in FlutterCoin, I will HOLD much to my dismay of the current prices.

It is like every other crypto on the market currently, we saw 1000+ BTC trade volumes just a month ago, now most are doing 20-30 BTC trade volumes.

Just wait it out and there will be a explosion on the market and prices will skyrocket in a matter of hours.

i admire your enthusisam but i am sitting this out until shitter gets his diarrhea problem fixed. i refuse to give money to someone again and again who just turns around and LOLs as they dump crap on me in return. it's a point of principle now. It's not that flt is doing poor in a down market. its that it is doing much much worse than comparable coins, and the only ppl who hold it in any big quantity are ones who knew about it from early days so thay know why it is supposed to be a coin with a future. and _those_ are the ppl dumping. why? what is the secret.

after AC scam everything that seems 'out of place' needs to be considered and not ignored. where there is smoke there is fire, that is the #1 lesson learned by anyone in crypto.

CryptoGuy2014

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The way to beat the dump is to BUY, there is always a bottom and then its up from there, trust me I bought BTC at $800 just to watch in horror as it dropped to $440 just a few weeks later.

But I bought more at about $443 and then made up for any losses because of buying at the low.

We won't see it go below 600, unless some whale drops all they have on the markets, even then it seems there is a growing interest in the coin at its current price.

I have about 12-14 BTC invested in FlutterCoin, I will HOLD much to my dismay of the current prices.

It is like every other crypto on the market currently, we saw 1000+ BTC trade volumes just a month ago, now most are doing 20-30 BTC trade volumes.

Just wait it out and there will be a explosion on the market and prices will skyrocket in a matter of hours.

OFFICIAL FLT THREAD HERE:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/flt-fluttercoin-official-thread-flt-596673

Let's make a fresh start here.

etfgeek

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: etfgeek on April 29, 2014, 07:46:09 PM

Nice truckload dumping happening, this market really wants to crash through 1200 support and kill trendline. "900 sats" troll may have been on to something after all. Angry

Maybe I'll dip more toes in this pool when it gets to 800 or so, cannot go wrong there. But, there are sure some unhappy campers who bought at 2000+ Shocked

Guess they have to wait. As will I.

FLT will go up again, its sitting on the bottom right now.

remember these days? we were making excuses after excuses for this coin. now look. what excuses to make for it today?

coldbound

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Quote from: mikeymillie on May 05, 2014, 11:48:28 AM

Wish I could explain but add me to the list of totally baffled bagholders here.

This is quite literally the worst performing crypto investment I have ever made and I can't begin to understand why. It's ROI is close to scamcoin levels and yet it doesn't seem like a scam at all. Still... can't keep throwing money away like this, if I hadn't been day trading my ass off to make profits on DRK and BC etc, to compensate for huge FLT losses I'd have thrown in the towel already.

I am in exactly the same position. Totally having hard time to understand why this great coin is being treated and dumped like a scamcoin. Something is not right here.

mikeymillie

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Quote from: ?? on ??

New low: 0.00000600
Why are ppls. selling so low?

Wish I could explain but add me to the list of totally baffled bagholders here.

This is quite literally the worst performing crypto investment I have ever made and I can't begin to understand why. It's ROI is close to scamcoin levels and yet it doesn't seem like a scam at all. Still... can't keep throwing money away like this, if I hadn't been day trading my ass off to make profits on DRK and BC etc, to compensate for huge FLT losses I'd have thrown in the towel already.

oddwh

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Damn this dump Shocked

I'm finally at loss (if I wanted to sell now)

akk123

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Freefall i am afraid. Still dumping.

Phantas

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somebody used 14.4 BTC to dump FLT

LeBarton

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Quote from: Conqueror on May 05, 2014, 11:32:25 AM

Quote from: Conqueror on May 05, 2014, 10:33:48 AM

Please dump a little bit more to fill my buy orders!

Ok, that is a little bit too much, stop dumping Cheesy

Well at least that was fast Grin

Conqueror

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I was diagnosed with brain parasite

Quote from: Conqueror on May 05, 2014, 10:33:48 AM

Please dump a little bit more to fill my buy orders!

Ok, that is a little bit too much, stop dumping Cheesy

etfgeek

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i guess I have to admit that i must have no idea what the ingredients are for a successful altcoin.
people cant tripping over each other fast enough to get scammed by coins that obviously had no future even if they weren't scams to begin with (AsiaCoin, 'theme' coins in general), coins that are clones of other coins or do the same old "ASIC resistance" pitch 11 different ways take off and fly, yet flutter -- which does something unique and useful in crypto gets shit on day after day after day. even though we have daily supply cut down by almost 88% compared to the 5000 flt block reward period.

are the devs dumping? if not, who keeps selling this coin? it can only be someone who either is mining continuously now or had mined a lot of it in the past.
it cannot be current buyers or miners, there just isn't enough supply any more.
how can people who had so much of it not have any faith in it?
are they seeing something wrong that I am not?

dumpers, if you are reading this please enlighten me because I seriously doubting my sanity at this point.

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Bitember is UPDATED TO "version" : "v0.4.5.6-ga-beta" as always.

http://flt.bitember.com/ Wink

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Quote from: thekidcoin on May 05, 2014, 08:56:19 AM

Quote from: Kuriso on May 05, 2014, 12:31:56 AM

Quote from: thekidcoin on May 04, 2014, 07:49:33 PM

Nice to see a small rally... Lets spark some interest in the coin. Maybe lets flame eachother and people can talk about it on twitter, check out the thread and invest LOL

TheKidCoin you said you have a job. You are devoted to the coin but cannot devote 100% of your time to it. These people turn to you for everything and I can see in some of your responses they get to you. At least it seems that way. I propose that we help you. I'm not sure if these ideas have been proposed because I haven't been able to follow the thread all the time so I will post my thoughts.

Instead of a divided community we need to unite. Let's build more authority for Flutter. Let's build a Flutter Foundation. Open and transparent. The foundation can serve as a base to build up Fluttercoin. Let the foundation work on brand management, advertising, growth, etc. Open a public account for donations used for these advancements. We can hold votes for member seats, seat buy-ins (buy-ins used for advancements), or TheKidCoin can appoint members. Maybe let the community vote on how to get started. We need to take the discussion to a Flutter Forum where proper discussions can be made and get away from all this other BS.

The community has http://www.fluttercoinbounty.com/ but it's not on the front page. I think people have forgotten about it. They are too worried about price and not worried enough about growing the community. This should be incorporated into the foundation.

Lets get updates on the multipool. This should be tied into the foundation.

This coin and community has so much potential. I've invested nearly 4 btc over the last 2 weeks. I know that's not much in the scheme of things but I see the potential. I'm not looking for a 2x-3x return tomorrow. I want a the long term return and this is something I stand by. I tell other memebers in the Polo trollbox the same thing. Yes I am the same Kuriso that is on Polo. I'm so tired of these scamming shitcoins that are here today and gone tomorrow. Coins that only steal bitcoins from the unsuspecting community. Make Fluttercoin be different. Let's take this coin to the next stage.

Foundation is the way to go...

What do we need to do to get the ball rolling on the Fluttercoin Foundation?

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Quote from: CryptoGuy2014 on May 05, 2014, 11:03:34 AM

I have created a new thread to be used for FlutterCoin discussions, it is in the main Alt. Coin thread so it is more visable and we can create more support for it.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/flt-fluttercoin-official-thread-flt-596673

It is the unofficial FLT forum, but can be the Official forum with approval of the Dev., I am willing to moderate unless the Dev. would like to moderate the thread.

This is the TIME for FlutterCoin to make a comeback and create more demand for FlutterCoin and its valuable features that it offers.

It can be made the official thread... I have no problem with that. I also have issue with you moderating the thread.

Thanks!

More threads the better

CryptoGuy2014

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I have created a new thread to be used for FlutterCoin discussions, it is in the main Alt. Coin thread so it is more visable and we can create more support for it.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/flt-fluttercoin-official-thread-flt-596673

It is the unofficial FLT forum, but can be the Official forum with approval of the Dev., I am willing to moderate unless the Dev. would like to moderate the thread.

This is the TIME for FlutterCoin to make a comeback and create more demand for FlutterCoin and its valuable features that it offers.

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