Topic: 🌍[ANN]🌳 [FRED IEO] - FRED ENERGY Token - Green Energy Projects - Stellar🌲🌳 (Read 1376 times)

Just in case any of you here expect a refund from Altilly. If you don't have all their deposit confirmation emails, they give you nothing. That's a scam.

Altilly Exchange FAKE Refunds, Possible Exit Scam

We would like to announce a few changes to our websites;

https://fredenergy.org - Project information and Blog

https://token-sale.fredenergy.org - Token sale platform

https://shop.fredenergy.org - Marketplace for green energy related products accepting crypto

Our token sales will be moving to a HODL’s rewards-based scheme until further notice. This is to encourage buying from our platform which provides our project with funding (for Marketing, Exchanges, Marketplace etc) and also aids in maintaining a more stable token value.
Purchasers for the next sales rounds on our platform will be entitled to a bi-monthly interest rate based on the number of tokens purchased from our platform and holding that purchase amount when wallet snapshots are taken at the end of each month.
Launched in 2018, we are here to stay, Join us and be part of the future https://token-sale.fredenergy.org

If you really were that interested in the project you would know the answer to your questions as it is all in the public domain, nothing hidden, a quick look at our website and whitepaper would also help. (try https://fredenergy.org)
To me your post is another lame example of lazyness and an inability to do your own research before talking rubbish. And why do you own tokens you think are pointless? Perhaps another airdrop/bounty investor?

I don't really see the use of this token. So I own Fred tokens? So what? It means nothing. I cannot do anything with them. Or do they actually function in the marketplace? Has anyone got any proof of getting what they have ordered? Is it stuff you are stocking from other companies? Are there any videos of these products? I also don't like this talk about a fake team. People should leave credible evidence though. I want to see links and pictures so we know beyond a doubt. Deleting messages in telegram and banning people. Blaming the bot? I don't know what is true and what is not but these are red flags none the less.

Where else do you plan to list your tokens btw?

Sounds interesting and I'm sure Hemp plastic will find a niche market somewhere

Google Hemp Plastic, the implementation for that along with this project marketing as a Green Energy i think would be a winning combination.

Hope that FRED ENERGY will implement blockchain adoption to the ecology sphere, also great that you guys are using stellar - it is really fast!

Please using English language sir of you post in here because in here is not local board Indonesian.
And than  you wrong thread if you join bounty.

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Update:
We are still working hard to bring our project to fruition. Although token sales have been flat, we are still on target for our marketplace to go live in Q4 this year. The marketplace will bring consumers some of the best green energy related products available today.

I think it's a smart move to have switched to Stellar Blockchain

Project looks good and can definitely achieve success if the team members are genuine. Maybe link the team members linkedin profiles to their images? I personally would love it! Helps with the trust, you know how it goes. Anyways, nice project!

FRED Energy wrote an article on her blog about how, with the help of her project, green energy can be used and implemented more efficiently with a positive impact on the environment. https://medium.com/@fredenergy.org/fred-energy-the-future-is-green-7460e40d8c38

I've been watching Fredenergy for sometime now!  I'd also mined quite the amount in their early days!  I can only speak my own experience with the fredenergy team and I don't feel anything dodgey about this at all!  I've had to deal with coin to token swap without any dramas at all.  I didn't get onboard with the swap on time, and as a matter of fact it was literally months later!  They team were quite honorable, and sorted it for me straight away.  They even helped me setup the required wallets.  The fredenergy team "although few", are very quick, honest and are bloody good to deal with and talk to!  They don't seem to be scammy at all, as some un-informed person or 2 may have suggested. 

They've got my vote of confidence!

Hi!

Thank you for letting us know about your "issues".

I'm gonna try to address them, even though I'm skilled in the "communication field", which seems to imply I can easily "lie" to people (funny how a competency can make you look dirty... Now I feel sorry for having had an education )

"turns out my messages get auto deleted, which i find suspicious."
-> I don't know in what conditions your message were "automatically deleted" exactly, but if the process was "automatic" it means that our bot did that. Which means that you have probably posted some links. We activated an "auto delete" for recent members who are posting links, reason being that...we don't want the Telegram group to become a platform for anyone to advertise their spammy links or their own project that is not related to FRED Energy. A bot cannot be "smart" enough to guess if a posted link is genuine and informative, or if it's just a referrer link or anything like that.

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Doing some research into the team i found it strange to have the same team as matrix and other projects.

now i know its common for blockchain people to advise on several products, but if you hold a high ranked daily job in a company, and also are say the CTO of several blockchain project at the same time is seems suspicious. CTO is a serious role, or no ?
i find it strange that the core team is the same but the CEO(who usually takes the reputation hit from scams) and community manager(who the community relate to and interact with to generate trust) changes for each project, new people being brought in are usually the same people across the projects as well.
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-> Shehzad is working with different projects as a developer, he's working with us as such. It's his job as a freelancer, so I guess it's normal for him to seek for not only one job at a time. He decided to specialize himself in the blockchain, which explains why he's on different blockchain projects. Again, nothing wrong with that (and this has already been addressed in a very recent post). He also has his "trusted people", that he suggested to us, with proofs that those people helped other projects raise funds. Which is, as a newborn project, what we're trying to do. Again, nothing wrong with that... to develop all we are planning to, we need funds. Until now we have been 100% working on our own funds, so we need the community and investors to kick in.

"another thing i found suspicious is that the same core team is behind icobench, which gave them a high score."

-> What you call the "core team" is a bit misleading. Michael & I are actually the most active and leading members of this project Team, we have been doing lots of things on this project until now, and we are definitely not restricted to our "official roles", aka community manager as far as I'm concerned - as you noted I'm also "officially" a creative director, but I'm also very active in contacting potential partners, inventors and product designers - I recently added a product designer to our Team, not officially yet but he'll be added to the websites soon, we prioritize working on real stuff than updating the communication supports. Michael, as a CEO, is also doing much more than "directing things". That what we need to do when we're not as many as we'd like to be. And yes, that's a weak point of our Team for now, as we are a bit under numbered and we need more active Team members (which we are working on).
As for the assumption that the CTO&advisors are "behind icobench", that's a very bold statement: do you have any links to support that claim? As far as I know they are registered on ICOBENCH as "experts" (anybody can postulate as an "expert" there by the way... I didn't try myself as I'm not pretending to be a "blockchain expert" but I know that there's an application form to fill, and I assume it's checked and validated by the ICOBENCH team). Many "icobench experts" are active on this ico ranking website, and the vast majority of them are involved with different projects, which again...is something normal. By the way, we got a ranking & review by another icobench "expert", that is not part of the team and he freely gave us an interesting review, which highlighted some weak points to be worked on.

"also the people in the core team are mostly people with education in communication, human psychology and marketing which would explain how they are able to give trustworthy answers to questions."
-> yup, that was exactly one of the reported "flaws" of the project, noted in that icobench review. The lack of technical & renewable energy specialists officially involved. Which we have been working on since the beginning, and we're happy to say that "unofficially for now" this issue has been solved. Rome was not built in one day, neither will FRED Energy... we've constantly been open and transparent in our communication with the community, and we'll always be. For now, those new members are anonymous, as they have a right and reason to be, when they decide to go "public" we'll publish their names.
Concerning the "how they are able to give trustworthy answers to question", I dunno about that myself, as I usually speak from my heart, and I can easily become a bit too "passionate" about things, especially when a genuinely nice project and people I personally know and respect are being under attack.

"now i am not here to say that this is, or is not legit, but if they had me considering supporting them then they probably will get others to do so and others might not be as thorough.
i am just sharing the experience i had which i felt was important enough for me to actually create and account over just lurking and soaking information."

-> Thank you for clearing that up, before this phrase what was written looked more like manipulation leading to dicredit (insinuating that being part of multiple projects makes some team members "suspicious", and thus the whole project; claiming that some people are "behind icobench" while - to my knowledge - they are not; insinuating that people having skills in marketing and communication might lead them to be deceptive...)

I'm personally sorry that you got interested by FRED and finally decided not to get involved because of those reasons, but I also understand that one needs to be extremely careful and leery about "new" blockchain projects that are raising funds. If you consider having a second look, I hope you'll find out that there's nothing "suspicious" about the project.

"IF you are looking into investing with FRED i highly advice that you do your homework on them, maintain healthy scepticism towards official channels and make a educated decision.
Now i am sure they will try to discredit my statements because i have fresh account, but you could do your own research or go to the telegram group and try to mention these things and see for your self."
-> You're the first to speak here, so now we have no other choice but to fall in that "rethorical trap" -> when someones says "now I'm sure they will...", that assumes that any reaction or reply will be biased and dishonest.
I already know that our bot doesn't delete messages unless they contain external links.
Besides that, if our moderators are deleting critical opinions, I'm gonna personally ask them not to, as getting criticized and being able to respond is one of the best ways to clear things up, and it always leads to better consideration of the weak points we need to address. And I love "real discussions" in a community, not the usual "praise the Team" comments we can see now and then from bounty hunters

"Side note: While writing this post i noticed they also banned me from the telegram group for asking why they delete questions that address real issues, without being judgemental i might add, all i tried to do was have them ensure me that there were no reason to be sceptic. so for me this is a big red flag and the reason i decided not to fund this project. "

-> You're right about the "red flag" concerning censorship. Our moderators are full of good will but they might have a hard time setting up a line between "constructive criticism" and "slander/FUD". After discussion with them, they did explain it that way, and they were considering your comments as "FUD". Please DM me your telegram ID, I'll get you unbanned and I'll clear this up with the mods. We need the constructive criticism & healthy skepticism.

Thank you for getting our attention already!
Hope to see you back around soon

Hi,
Could you eloborate on what you find suspicious and post links to your research etc as It's difficult to know what you ar trying to say.
I will then be happy to answer any issues you have. By the way, we have a Telegram bot which deletes all outside links except from the team and is used to remove spam and scammers.

So i was reading a few ANNs and came across this.
I saw a few issues with it so i thought i would go to the telegram group to ask about it.

turns out my messages get auto deleted, which i find suspicious.
Doing some research into the team i found it strange to have the same team as matrix and other projects.

now i know its common for blockchain people to advise on several products, but if you hold a high ranked daily job in a company, and also are say the CTO of several blockchain project at the same time is seems suspicious. CTO is a serious role, or no ?
i find it strange that the core team is the same but the CEO(who usually takes the reputation hit from scams) and community manager(who the community relate to and interact with to generate trust) changes for each project, new people being brought in are usually the same people across the projects as well.

another thing i found suspicious is that the same core team is behind icobench, which gave them a high score.
also the people in the core team are mostly people with education in communication, human psychology and marketing which would explain how they are able to give trustworthy answers to questions.

now i am not here to say that this is, or is not legit, but if they had me considering supporting them then they probably will get others to do so and others might not be as thorough.
i am just sharing the experience i had which i felt was important enough for me to actually create and account over just lurking and soaking information.

IF you are looking into investing with FRED i highly advice that you do your homework on them, maintain healthy scepticism towards official channels and make a educated decision.
Now i am sure they will try to discredit my statements because i have fresh account, but you could do your own research or go to the telegram group and try to mention these things and see for your self.

Side note: While writing this post i noticed they also banned me from the telegram group for asking why they delete questions that address real issues, without being judgemental i might add, all i tried to do was have them ensure me that there were no reason to be sceptic. so for me this is a big red flag and the reason i decided not to fund this project.

i see the people behind FRED are active here so they should address this issue, at least to put potential investors at ease, but for me i will be moving to the next one as i can not support anyone who censor healthy scepticism.

quote from Michael, FRED Energy CEO:
"They are also advisors to the Dexacoin project. Many advisors and team members work on several projects at the same time. If you are an investor, you spread your investments rather than stake everything into one company. For myself, I only work on this project."

Nothing "weird" there, I myself work with different projects, to different levels (sometimes I'm just the community buffoon ^^)

And as I mentioned on the Telegram (where you already asked the same question), why use different photos when you have one you feel good about (and you're not trying to "hide"?). It's actually a good sign of transparency

On more serious matters: I just had a very long and interesting phone call with a product designer who's happy to work with us on our first "real world" product. Also in discussions with a renewable energies engineer to find the best options.

Key words for this one would be: Solar, lamp, phone charging, 3d printed, trekkers/campers.

Will keep you guys posted about the progress!

I think it is weird to find the same persons from your team with exactly the same photo on other projects as well:

https://matrix-coin.io/index.html#scroll-team

ICOBENCH, updated ranking:
https://icobench.com/ico-analyzer?ico=fred-energy

Looks like a good recipe for success! Now the most important is to be done: work-work-work




more than 7k Telegram members now, + our Indonesian Telegram community is growing as well, the vK community is going well too.

Thank you guys!

I think is important, because the prospects of the direction, also has a great role and importance for all further stages of development, the project itself. Of course, the depth of the project is much greater than I have thought

It's difficult to comment on how or why other green initiative projects fail, but lack of funds is the obvious one. Not all projects actually raise millions (a lot of smoke and mirrors in the crypto world) and I guess if the initial IEO/ICO did not raise the required capital for the project to implement their projects, then promotion on exchanges is the next step.

Of course there have been one or two that were apparently successful and raised tens of millions only to dissapear and then there are blatant scam projects which never intended to fulfil their promises.

Our project is struggling for funding, but it will continue regardless starting with our marketplace and continued colaboration with innovators, that is where we hope to be different and who knows what the future may hold.

If you browse the ANN thread section, there are several projects dedicating their platform to green energy initiatives.
However, as ArthCoin have said, there has never been a successful project in this area. Why is that so?
Because once they acquired their funds, most of them are devoting their time to promote their coin in exchanges.

But there are few that are trying to cater their objectives in renewable energy that has thread in the forum.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annsnc-suncontract-open-energy-market-first-p2p-energy-trading-is-live-1934763  = https://suncontract.org/
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-wepower-first-global-blockchain-for-green-energy-future-2207367  = https://wepower.network/
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annpreico-xiwatt-a-platform-to-co-own-trade-renewable-energy-assets-2934544 = https://xiwatt.io

great job! The new website has a fresher and cleaner look, properly highlighting the strong points of the project.

The telegram community is climbing to the sky!

More than 5000 new members within a few weeks, it seems like the FRED word is spreading

our vK community is nicely growing too, already more than 400 members so far

Thank you guys!

https://discord.gg/r8sVYMs
https://t.me/FREDEnergycommunity
https://vk.com/id553294884
https://twitter.com/energy_fred

Our informational blog website has had a refresh and now gives a better overview of the project aims.

SOURCE: ICOBENCH









IEO phase 1 started on FinexBox:

https://www.finexbox.com/market/pair/FRED-BTC.html

I think not everything that you think is not. But only a few have ever seen a project like this. It all depends on the team and partners that I know if the team and partners are good.

You made the wrong post here because this is not a thread bounty to make a report of the work you have done. you should re-make the posts in the correct thread.

After a slight misunderstanding, Tokens are now on sale

We requested our coin to be delisted at all exchanges except Finexbox mainly due to the ridiculous fee's required to change blockchain. The coin is to be swapped by Finexbox to our new token which is explained in the whitepaper. Finexbox are listed on CMC, only their trading data is not yet displaying.

I had never heard of "RED Energy" until you mentioned it. FRED comes from our acronym Funding Research into Energy Devices which is what the project was originally based on and also provides a good crypto ticker (FRED).

I see FRED tokens have no volume at all, if this was indeed listed last year? what I know is Finexbok exchange which is not listed on CMC

Hi and thank you for this spot-on comment!

So, you mean that our hard cap doesn't seem realistic compared to the goals of the project?

To this I could reply that our goal is multiple, and it has to be achieved by going through different steps.

The IEOs and funds raising in general are not supposed to make everything possible at once, but to help us reach our first (more accessible and less ambitious) goals.

Once those are reached, we can step up and reach another.

As you can see, no lies about the amount of raised funds so far, 8 ETH is not a lot but it's a very first step that will open new possibilities.

We're in for a marathon!

I expect the bounty thread to have a link to this announcement thread. There are so many blockchain-energy crowdfund lately but with little successes, I hope you have not come just to make up the names.  Bluenote and windahn are no more responding to messages on all their media and made up the amount of money they raised. They usually request for a large sum of money but yours amazes me and also kept me wondering if the hardcap is just a distraction, of-course u needs large sum of money but not this cheap.

'FRED ENERGY TOKEN' this name matches the name 'RED ENERGY TOKEN' which seems to have been duplicated 

green energy is good intentions but there has never been a successful project in this area . I think we need to invest more money in marketing and tell people about the prospects of green energy.

Pre-Sale didn't go so great for several reasons but at least it was something towards making our plans work out (around 8 ETH). Hoping the change to the Stellar blockchain will provide some encouragement, we have had a lot of positive comments so far regarding Stellar.
Yes the IEO at Finexbox.co has started today, a growing exchange and I can only say good things about them so far. We were listed on four exchanges last year when we were a coin and the support from Finexbox was by far the best.

Figures can be viewed in the dashboard at https://token-sale.fredenergy.org/signup/login

How much did you get at PreSale? and tomorrow will start IEO in Finebox hopefully many people will invest there.

I will help deal with your scam accusation (I see from some of your posts you are a scam hunter which isn't a bad thing)
As the Founder (Michael Josefsen), I am managing the project. Yes we do have one member on our team that helped on the REC project (Philipe).
I will provide a full explanation of how my project is unfortunately through no fault of my own, linked to a failed project (which I have been informed was due to exchanges withholding funds).

Mr An (who is a real person) joined my project in October 2018 when we were a mineable coin as a marketer and left in December 2018 to go on the REC project. Philipe then joined our project and took on the role of community manager which he is very good at and he did this role for free because he liked what our project was about. Earlier this year Philipe was approached by Mr An to help on the REC project and because Philipe thought it was another good cause he accepted, which he now regrets due to being classed as a scammer through association of REC.

So this is where the associations come from but I can assure you that this project is not a scam and never will be. It is a legitimate project with real team members and a real purpose. I myself have verified my identity (KYC) with ICObench and at other ICO/IEO sites and so have most of the team. You can see our profiles here https://icobench.com/ico/fred-energy with links to LinkedIn.

Members of the team receive our tokens for their time and effort which provides incentive to make the project a success, any funds raised go towards the project not the team or myself and that is how most legitimate projects work. I have personally put a lot of time, effort and money into something I believe in and I am in this for the long run and not some short-term gain by scamming people. Unfortunately, crypto has more than its fair share of scammers, I deal with a dozen YouTuber, Marketers and Exchange scammers a day.

I hope this helps clarify the scam accusation and if you would like me to provide more information then please feel free to ask.

I guess you are just the same team managing the Replaceenergy project. Deal with the scam accusation first.

Thank you! we're constantly alert to detect the opportunities to make a difference.

Lots of other smart moves are coming, stay tuned!

- Giant Bounty incoming to grow the community & get as much visibility as possible

- "GET REAL" actions in the making (a huge mistake with many blockchain projects is that they almost never put any "real product" on the market. I'm not talking about advertising T-Shirts or Mugs, I'm talking useful products that would appeal to lots of different people. Small, affordable, practical, good-looking, and 100% in touch with FRED purpose. That's what we are actively working on now.

In the meantime, those are the very last days before the end of the pre-sales. It's easy to say, but... that $0.005 (0.01 + 100% BONUS) won't happen anytime soon (first IEO round will be priced at $0.03 + BONUS)

Very smart move to join the stellar network.
In the future Fredenergy isnt just another ERC-20 token and that will separate us from other 'common' projects.
Devs sense of seeing just went from good to very good mpov.

join the discord or Telegram everyone! a big Airdrop is happening!

Free FRED + XLM combined!

https://t.me/FREDEnergycommunity
https://discord.gg/r8sVYMs

We have changed to a token on the Stellar network, updates to the Ann and bounty information will be posted in the next few days

In the meantime, the pre-sales are going on Not as good as one might expect, but still not bad!



We are still far from our hard cap, but the soft cap is far behind

Don't forget, 100% BONUS!

That makes the token $0.005 worth.

Big moves are coming... don't wait, it's your chance to participate into a big & beautiful project, and you should expect some nice outcome out of it too

In comparison to the mass of other projects aiming/claiming to develop new exchanges, blockchains, payment systems etc, the few green energy projects starting to come through are having more success when you do the numbers. What makes us different? Some of our projects will be implemented regardless of funds raised while the remainder of our projects can be realised with a relatively low amount of funds.
Regarding the descision to use a subdomain for the token sale, http://fredenergy.org is our project blog page, you can also read some of our history there, and you will see our project started back in September last year as a mineable coin. Our marketplace will also be a subdomain of fredenergy.org

We are a real project with real goals and our team is evolving, we are who we are (and all are verifiable with KYC in progress) https://icobench.com/ico/fred-energy

The goal with private sales or an IEO is obviously to collect money. Without money, you don't do a lot of things in this world, it's a sad thing to say, but unfortunately true...
We have big goals with Fred, the previous CN-fork project was totally self-funded and everyone could get some coins by mining them, but the price has never taken off, this not allowing to do anything of what was initially planned. That's why a token was created, and private sales that precede an IEO. With the collected funds, we will be able to spread the word more and do some REAL world actions.
Everything is in the whitepaper.

As far as transparency is concerned, Michael Josefsen has always been extremely transparent about the finances and accounting, with FRED-CN he was one of the first crypto leaders to publish the real numbers (how much was invested and where, from the premine and/or from personal funds)

Why we would think this project could be successful? Because the people involved really mean to do something positive for the planet, and also because we think that the different parts of the project are economically viable.

"fake team" by "MiningCoinsPool"
-> Interesting claim, what kind of undeniable proof do you have before doing something that looks a lot like public slander?

mrquackquack :
nope, FCB never accepted ERC20 tokens, we asked them to close completely FRED trading as it might mislead the users.
DO NOT BUY FRED on FirstCryptoBank or BITEBTC, you won't be able to do anything with those FRED coins...

is this coin still valid on FCB?

So far not a single green energy crypto project is successful. Why dont you think your will be?

Why your webpage's name consist of "token-sale" in its link in this topic? Why not use http://fredenergy.org/ instead? Or your only goal is to collect money??

https://token-sale.fredenergy.org/

With 19 days to go until the end of the presale, we are now giving 100% bonus. Previous purchases will be amended to the 100%, Don't miss out!!!!
IEO on top exchanges coming soon!!!

Token private sales just started, let's wish this lovely project the best future!

https://token-sale.fredenergy.org/signup

You can buy FRED with BTC, ETH, LTC or Fiat with a 40% BONUS till the end of this period. I'll definitely get a bunch of them, used to mine the previous CN-FRED project, there are some very nice ideas there and a genuine will to do something positive for the ecology, we really need to push this one!

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