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Quote from: Mr Frog on September 16, 2017, 04:52:27 PM

Quote from: chip1982 on September 16, 2017, 04:29:21 PM

These emails are always non binding. You never know to whom you are actually speaking. I'm not a native english speaker, but would you formulate that like this if you work for GW?

It sounds as if the author of the mail does not belong to GW. Maybe a third party managing the email flood for GW? I would have no problem with that. But why not say it out? I'm XXX from company XXXX and were helping GW in the client service......

It was Susie today.

Obviously if she can't tell me when they will have the update online, attached to the timeline (apparently) there is no chance she will be able to tell me when my miner will be online. Grin

I don't know who is answering exactly or from where. But they don't have and are not able to get precise infos. Not very very helpful.
Nice and fast answer if you don't mind the lack of... answer. : )

Fair enough I'll wait until one day I wake up and I have my miners connected, in the real world. And not only when I am sleeping.

Yeah, same her. Patience is the key. On the other hand I can understand why they might not be too precise in their answers. On slack their are some guys shouting for reimbursement and cheaper mining because of the delay. And one guy even suggested legal measures against Bitmain Grin

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Quote from: chip1982 on September 16, 2017, 04:29:21 PM

These emails are always non binding. You never know to whom you are actually speaking. I'm not a native english speaker, but would you formulate that like this if you work for GW?

It sounds as if the author of the mail does not belong to GW. Maybe a third party managing the email flood for GW? I would have no problem with that. But why not say it out? I'm XXX from company XXXX and were helping GW in the client service......

It was Susie today.

Obviously if she can't tell me when they will have the update online, attached to the timeline (apparently) there is no chance she will be able to tell me when my miner will be online. Grin

I don't know who is answering exactly or from where. But they don't have and are not able to get precise infos. Not very very helpful.
Nice and fast answer if you don't mind the lack of... answer. : )

Fair enough I'll wait until one day I wake up and I have my miners connected, in the real world. And not only when I am sleeping.

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Quote from: Mr Frog on September 16, 2017, 02:04:49 PM

Oh no doubt I like & trust the concept, company, team, transparency aspect, ... and I am also ok with the delays. Even if they seems huge.
The lake of communication is as you said their big problem.

I just had an answer from them. Short and with out all the expected answers, as usual.

1- Hello,
Thanks for your message. The timeline you referred to stands. Giga Watt is preparing updates now on construction & the hold up with inspections. Also, the team is putting together information for equipment purchasers right now so you will know which of the facilities your miners will go into. You'll be able to look at our pod deployment schedule (https://giga-watt.com/promo/timeline) and know which of them your miners are scheduled for and will be available soon.

Regarding:
'Also, the team is putting together information for equipment purchasers right now so you will know which of the facilities your miners will go into.'
right now is cool but When will I have this infos ? Today ?

2- Hi,
No exact time to advise when they'll push out updated info to the timeline. It's a priority they are working on now.

These emails are always non binding. You never know to whom you are actually speaking. I'm not a native english speaker, but would you formulate that like this if you work for GW?

2- Hi,
No exact time to advise when they'll push out updated info to the timeline. It's a priority they are working on now.

It sounds as if the author of the mail does not belong to GW. Maybe a third party managing the email flood for GW? I would have no problem with that. But why not say it out? I'm XXX from company XXXX and were helping GW in the client service......

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Quote from: cuteman on September 16, 2017, 04:18:20 PM

Quote from: Mr Frog on September 16, 2017, 09:02:17 AM

I know we had a letter 15 days ago to justify the release delay of the WTT Tokens Batch 3 & 4 but I would be happy to have more news 15 days after..

there will be 5-6 weeks delay according to them, don't worry Wink

It's not being worry but inform. Have some up date weekly would be great.
They also said the first 4 pods would be finished by August 15th. Wink

Also there is the tokens part, and there is the miners part.
It would also be great to be inform when your miner arrive on site or if the shipment is late.

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Quote from: Mr Frog on September 16, 2017, 09:02:17 AM

I know we had a letter 15 days ago to justify the release delay of the WTT Tokens Batch 3 & 4 but I would be happy to have more news 15 days after..

there will be 5-6 weeks delay according to them, don't worry Wink

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Quote from: chip1982 on September 16, 2017, 01:39:36 PM

I agree with you and in essence we are 12 Pods behind. I am actually ok with the delay. A project of this size always has some hickups. The PSU issue is not there fault, then the final inspection, permission and construction delays it all comes together. Still I'm fine with that.

What really makes it frustrating is the non communication policy. I know we have slack, FB, instagram and twitter and all the rest, but the really critical questions are not being answered there. (didn't check telegram yet)

With the exception of the official Dave Carlson mail two week's ago I got all my information from second hand. That is a very challenging.

Oh no doubt I like & trust the concept, company, team, transparency aspect, ... and I am also ok with the delays. Even if they seems huge.
The lake of communication is as you said their big problem.

I just had an answer from them. Short and with out all the expected answers, as usual.

1- Hello,
Thanks for your message. The timeline you referred to stands. Giga Watt is preparing updates now on construction & the hold up with inspections. Also, the team is putting together information for equipment purchasers right now so you will know which of the facilities your miners will go into. You'll be able to look at our pod deployment schedule (https://giga-watt.com/promo/timeline) and know which of them your miners are scheduled for and will be available soon.

Regarding:
'Also, the team is putting together information for equipment purchasers right now so you will know which of the facilities your miners will go into.'
right now is cool but When will I have this infos ? Today ?

2- Hi,
No exact time to advise when they'll push out updated info to the timeline. It's a priority they are working on now.

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Quote from: Mr Frog on September 16, 2017, 09:02:17 AM

Any news out of GW today ?

1 Giga Pod completed — 0.75 MW July 15th
2 Giga Pods completed — 2.4 MW August 1st
Expansion of the unit — 0.9 MW August 15th
3 Giga Pods completed — 4.5 MW September 1st
9 Giga Pods completed — 15 MW September 15th

I am not sure I get 100% of the situation here.
We are September 16th and on the GW timeline it says :

PANGBORN
POD 1 & BUILDING A Unfinished

MOSES LAKE
POD 1 & POD 2 Unfinished

So is it the 1 giga + 2 giga Pods + The expansion of the unit. August 15th that we still waiting for ?

Which mean we are 12 Pods behind. Not Started yet. & 4 unfinished Pods.

Concerning the equipments. I will only speak for what I know.

The S9 at time of my purchase (June 16th) was suppose to ship between August 16th and August 21st. On a first pay first ship standard as they like to say on Bitmain Website at the time of the purchase.
Advertised August 28th By GW on their Website.

The L3+ at time of my purchase (June 14th) was suppose to ship between around September 13th and September 18th. Not 100% sure the date were exactly that on the Bitmain Website but at +/- 3 at least days for sure.
Advertised September 20th By GW on their Website.

As for today I have no news 100% confirmed either for the shipping or anything else concerning the miners.

I know we had a letter 15 days ago to justify the release delay of the WTT Tokens Batch 3 & 4 but I would be happy to have more news 15 days after..
Delays can always happen but Damn there is a lot of them here guyz.

I agree with you and in essence we are 12 Pods behind. I am actually ok with the delay. A project of this size always has some hickups. The PSU issue is not there fault, then the final inspection, permission and construction delays it all comes together. Still I'm fine with that.

What really makes it frustrating is the non communication policy. I know we have slack, FB, instagram and twitter and all the rest, but the really critical questions are not being answered there. (didn't check telegram yet)

With the exception of the official Dave Carlson mail two week's ago I got all my information from second hand. That is a very challenging.

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Any news out of GW today ?

1 Giga Pod completed — 0.75 MW July 15th
2 Giga Pods completed — 2.4 MW August 1st
Expansion of the unit — 0.9 MW August 15th
3 Giga Pods completed — 4.5 MW September 1st
9 Giga Pods completed — 15 MW September 15th

I am not sure I get 100% of the situation here.
We are September 16th and on the GW timeline it says :

PANGBORN
POD 1 & BUILDING A Unfinished

MOSES LAKE
POD 1 & POD 2 Unfinished

So is it the 1 giga + 2 giga Pods + The expansion of the unit. August 15th that we still waiting for ?

Which mean we are 12 Pods behind. Not Started yet. & 4 unfinished Pods.

Concerning the equipments. I will only speak for what I know.

The S9 at time of my purchase (June 16th) was suppose to ship between August 16th and August 21st. On a first pay first ship standard as they like to say on Bitmain Website at the time of the purchase.
Advertised August 28th By GW on their Website.

The L3+ at time of my purchase (June 14th) was suppose to ship between around September 13th and September 18th. Not 100% sure the date were exactly that on the Bitmain Website but at +/- 3 at least days for sure.
Advertised September 20th By GW on their Website.

As for today I have no news 100% confirmed either for the shipping or anything else concerning the miners.

I know we had a letter 15 days ago to justify the release delay of the WTT Tokens Batch 3 & 4 but I would be happy to have more news 15 days after..
Delays can always happen but Damn there is a lot of them here guyz.

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Quote from: cuteman on September 16, 2017, 02:02:47 AM

Quote from: cuteman on September 16, 2017, 01:46:06 AM

Be aware of the fraud Shocked

"recently we received very disturbing news: A new project emerged on the market, which, sadly and infuriatingly, copied Giga Watt’s model. ...

we would like to caution our clients and the market at large that these people are thieves and frauds" :

https://medium.com/cryptonomos/cryptonomos-official-position-on-https-tothemoonimus-com-d55daca3f04d

These guys from ToTheMoon even started a branch on bitcointalk a few days ago Huh

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2158565

Hopefully no people from here sent money to them.

They actually didn't even change the name. They just turned the W letter upside down and pushed it to the back: WTT = TTM

I must admit it, this is already the high art of deception. Grin

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Quote from: cuteman on September 16, 2017, 01:46:06 AM

Be aware of the fraud Shocked

"recently we received very disturbing news: A new project emerged on the market, which, sadly and infuriatingly, copied Giga Watt’s model. ...

we would like to caution our clients and the market at large that these people are thieves and frauds" :

https://medium.com/cryptonomos/cryptonomos-official-position-on-https-tothemoonimus-com-d55daca3f04d

These guys from ToTheMoon even started a branch on bitcointalk a few days ago Huh

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--2158565

Hopefully no people from here sent money to them.

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Be aware of the fraud Shocked

They copied Giga-Watt project and collect money.

Official statement from Cryptonomos:

"recently we received very disturbing news: A new project emerged on the market, which, sadly and infuriatingly, copied Giga Watt’s model. ...
...we would like to caution our clients and the market at large that these people are thieves and frauds" :

https://medium.com/cryptonomos/cryptonomos-official-position-on-https-tothemoonimus-com-d55daca3f04d

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Quote from: ethminer74 on September 15, 2017, 08:52:44 PM

Quote from: Triangulum on September 15, 2017, 04:46:39 PM

Quote from: ethminer74 on September 15, 2017, 04:15:35 PM

So I could use Bitmain APW3++ power supply with Bitmain Antminers now?
I have about 100 psu and Antminers on the way to Gigawatt and im on Batch 4.
How could I get these hardware up and running before batch 4 token release?

No, GW has to find other power supplies that are approved for use in the US. I guess the challenge right now is to procure thousands of such power supplies in a short period of time. If your miners arrive and can be deployed at GW before your tokens are released, you probably have to rent tokens for them if you want to start mining right away.

GW support is saying until I get my batch of tokens (Batch 4) I can't rent any tokens.
BM just delivered 2 L3+ and GW is going to send that back to me because I don't have wtt tokens.
So If I buy wtt tokens from EtherDelta exchange about 1000 WTT Tokens could I run 1 L3+ and rent tokens for other miner?
And
I got 100 BM PSU is on the way and I can't cancel the PSU order with BM what am I going to do?
This really sucks...

If you ordered those 100 L3+ and power supplies through GW, I guess you can try to get some WTT tokens from EtherDelta to be eligible for renting tokens and have GW deploy those L3+ instead of sending them to you. If they deploy your miners, hopefully, they will take care of the supply power issue for you. If you order your equipment directly from Bitmain, you may have to figure out what to do with them yourselves. Your best bet is to contact GW support to find out what options you have.

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Quote from: Triangulum on September 15, 2017, 04:46:39 PM

Quote from: ethminer74 on September 15, 2017, 04:15:35 PM

So I could use Bitmain APW3++ power supply with Bitmain Antminers now?
I have about 100 psu and Antminers on the way to Gigawatt and im on Batch 4.
How could I get these hardware up and running before batch 4 token release?

No, GW has to find other power supplies that are approved for use in the US. I guess the challenge right now is to procure thousands of such power supplies in a short period of time. If your miners arrive and can be deployed at GW before your tokens are released, you probably have to rent tokens for them if you want to start mining right away.

GW support is saying until I get my batch of tokens (Batch 4) I can't rent any tokens.
BM just delivered 2 L3+ and GW is going to send that back to me because I don't have wtt tokens.
So If I buy wtt tokens from EtherDelta exchange about 1000 WTT Tokens could I run 1 L3+ and rent tokens for other miner?
And
I got 100 BM PSU is on the way and I can't cancel the PSU order with BM what am I going to do?
This really sucks...

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Quote from: xcajun21 on September 15, 2017, 05:42:31 PM

I dunno how psu issue with the ul would be fixed and it's nerve racking because we bought early batches... you know the story.
My be they can change some setting, I dunno, so the hardware is UL compliant and non "hazardous".

There are basically 2 options: 1) GW procures UL listed power supplies from another source and returns OEM ones to BM, or 2) BM somehow gets its power supplies certified by UL. I believe GW is pursuing option 1 at the moment.

Quote from: mrb on September 15, 2017, 07:00:43 PM

Quote from: cuteman on September 06, 2017, 09:27:19 AM

Quote from: ethminer74 on September 05, 2017, 11:45:58 PM

Hitbtc seems much lower why not get it from Hitbtc?

You CAN'T withdrow from Hitbtc, because it's futures they are selling. They will allow to withdraw only after WTT will start trading on exchanges, and there will be blockchain for it. This won't happen till 2018 I assume. Another thing is that you can't 100% trust hitbtc, because it has no transperent owners. If they disappear some day, you will loose all tokens. It's much safer to rent.

September 15: HitBTC still doesn't allow withdrawal of WTT tokens... No communication. No ETA. Nothing. At this point I recommend to not trust them. (Thankfully I'm not a HitBTC user.)

IIRC, only IOUs of WTT are traded on HitBTC, not real WTT tokens. If you really want to buy WTT tokens right now, you can try EtherDelta.com. I wouldn't buy any WTT on HitBTC until it is officially listed there.

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Quote from: cuteman on September 06, 2017, 09:27:19 AM

Quote from: ethminer74 on September 05, 2017, 11:45:58 PM

Hitbtc seems much lower why not get it from Hitbtc?

You CAN'T withdrow from Hitbtc, because it's futures they are selling. They will allow to withdraw only after WTT will start trading on exchanges, and there will be blockchain for it. This won't happen till 2018 I assume. Another thing is that you can't 100% trust hitbtc, because it has no transperent owners. If they disappear some day, you will loose all tokens. It's much safer to rent.

September 15: HitBTC still doesn't allow withdrawal of WTT tokens... No communication. No ETA. Nothing. At this point I recommend to not trust them. (Thankfully I'm not a HitBTC user.)

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I dunno how psu issue with the ul would be fixed and it's nerve racking because we bought early batches... you know the story.
May be they can change some setting, I dunno, so the hardware is UL compliant and non "hazardous".

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Quote from: ethminer74 on September 15, 2017, 04:15:35 PM

So I could use Bitmain APW3++ power supply with Bitmain Antminers now?
I have about 100 psu and Antminers on the way to Gigawatt and im on Batch 4.
How could I get these hardware up and running before batch 4 token release?

No, GW has to find other power supplies that are approved for use in the US. I guess the challenge right now is to procure thousands of such power supplies in a short period of time. If your miners arrive and can be deployed at GW before your tokens are released, you probably have to rent tokens for them if you want to start mining right away.

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So I could use Bitmain APW3++ power supply with Bitmain Antminers now?
I have about 100 psu and Antminers on the way to Gigawatt and im on Batch 4.
How could I get these hardware up and running before batch 4 token release?

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Quote from: Triangulum on September 15, 2017, 10:47:14 AM

Quote from: chip1982 on September 15, 2017, 09:24:05 AM

Quote from: d3nz on September 15, 2017, 12:44:39 AM

is there any update on releasing the third batch? I can't wait to rent out my WTT token and if I will buy more token to increase my daily profit.

Current value of WTT: $2.20

I expecting that the value would rise up once they released the third batch token.

No update on slack. They are pretty silent on this issue.

I am first batch and still waiting for my miners to show up. We will soon enough see whether wtt is under- or overvalued

There isn't much activity on their Slack channel. Try their Telegram channel instead. It's much more active. GW CEO, Dave Carlson, said this morning that GW people were putting together info for equipment purchasers and that emails would be sent out to them with some indication as to which POD (or which set of power capacity that comes online) their miners would go into. According to their timeline, POD 1 at Pangborn already passed "Final City inspection prior Launch of the POD" and "UL listing inspection". "Hardware Deployment" is next on 09/16/17, "UL labeling" on 09/17 and "L&I Final Inspection - Occupancy" on 08/18. It seems the issue with BM power supply was resolved. WTT tokens for batch 3 and 4 are delayed for 5-6 weeks still. Hope it helps.

Thank you for sharing that information Triangulum. Good to hear that it's going forward. I'll try this telegram thing

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Quote from: chip1982 on September 15, 2017, 09:24:05 AM

Quote from: d3nz on September 15, 2017, 12:44:39 AM

is there any update on releasing the third batch? I can't wait to rent out my WTT token and if I will buy more token to increase my daily profit.

Current value of WTT: $2.20

I expecting that the value would rise up once they released the third batch token.

No update on slack. They are pretty silent on this issue.

I am first batch and still waiting for my miners to show up. We will soon enough see whether wtt is under- or overvalued

There isn't much activity on their Slack channel. Try their Telegram channel instead. It's much more active. GW CEO, Dave Carlson, said this morning that GW people were putting together info for equipment purchasers and that emails would be sent out to them with some indication as to which POD (or which set of power capacity that comes online) their miners would go into. According to their timeline, POD 1 at Pangborn already passed "Final City inspection prior Launch of the POD" and "UL listing inspection". "Hardware Deployment" is next on 09/16/17, "UL labeling" on 09/17 and "L&I Final Inspection - Occupancy" on 09/18. It seems the issue with BM power supply was resolved. WTT tokens for batch 3 and 4 are delayed for 5-6 weeks still. Hope it helps.

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