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newbie
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I do have criticism regarding past and current state of things and i make my opinion known.
What is your criticism?


Thanks

To name a few:
- To begin with there was/is a very substantial discrepancy between what was conveyed very clearly prior to the ico and what was/is the real state of things de facto. Dev state lagged and lags behind greatly and release of the project suffered great delays despite clear indications to the contrary before they collected funds (yes, they knew their status beforehand and could have given correct honest estimations regarding their state of progress and readiness).
- Despite having more time than described as needed when they raised funds, they still released a completely broken product in which all the promised features are either missing still or just do not work. It is important to mention that even this late release was forced on them, otherwise they would probably be delaying this for an undefined period time.
- Despite delays and ambiguity which cause some unrest and doubt with investors, the heat team did not keep good communication with their investors and community and even kept a condescending righteous attitude. They chose to avoid answering questions they did not like regardless of their significance to their investors.
- This is supposed to be a decentralized project yet it is currently very much centralized.
- Commitments that are of fundamental and critical importance to investors where compromised or intended to be compromised from the side of the heat team. You can see several occasions for this (trying to avoid distributing coins that are due to investors who paid for them is a prominent example for such breech of agreement).

This is just a partial description of a very faulty negligent and suspicious behavior from the part of this project. I can honestly tell you that if this was known beforehand I would never have invested in this (as I am sure would be the case for many of the other investors).
Every person who sent funds to the project gave them his trust (along with his money). So far they have proven to be unworthy of such trust. They seem to lack the fundamental respect and humility when dealing with their investors, their funds, and the community involved.
I can assure you that the feelings I convey are not exclusive only to me, but are felt by many of the others who invested.

on a final note: It is true that StewieG behaves in a trollish manor on occasions , that probably helps to ignore him or dismiss what he says, but you should know to see the important details despite the circus he created. He did raise some valid questions and points along the way (some of which where also raised by me and where mostly unaddressed).




Man what a fail posting.

No one need an idiot like some trolls to know what's going on. Or you are an idiot. So here we are.

Heat posted a list they want to integrate into a blockchain  in July 2016.

They raised money because people wanted that product. Full stop.

There was a delay. It's still ongoing. But the product will be long mot ready.

Were you thinking they are going to throw you the heat block chain ready infront of your shoes? Its deeeeevvvveeeelllloooopppmmment. Otherwise they would not raise money, they would just sell it.


The language and logic you chose to use here suggests me that you do struggle from some sort of mental disability, or just bad manors and foul personality, and i feel sorry for your condition.
I guess it is easier to label someone with trolling than trying to be an intelligent free thinking person.
This investment is far from my first and I know perfectly well how development works in this and other spheres. Trying to use this excuse time and time again to avoid accountability is a very weak attempt at best.
It strikes me that some people here (including such as yourself) are pretty much terrified from any words that might help create a bad image for this project, this probably comes from fear that it will damage their investment. This is also the reason they throw praise where praise is not due and try to silence those who find faults in the way this project is run and maintained.
They raised money under several false pretenses, otherwise if they where honest about the real state of things they would collect very little.
They knew perfectly well they are giving a false picture to encourage people to invest.
They had a very distinct inclination to brake previous (legally binding) commitments that where made when they made the ico to collect funds.
If all these points and more seem reasonable to you and acceptable, it is your right (some people are masochistic in nature), but is it also my right to demand answers and accountability when my money rests in the hands of those who currently do not deserve to keep it.  

Have a safe and sound day in your padded room my friend.


Nice posts mr.coinzy and good conlucions.
legendary
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Thanks.very interesting. This space moves so fast that it's hard to keep up. I appreciate that post from someone who is so into it all.
full member
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So while around you the world is in flames you decide to write a blogpost. Fine
In this blogpost you decide to write about unrelated projects, such as Bitcoin and Ethereum. Fine.
In this blogpost, which is also the very first in 2017 you write a single paragraph about the HEAT launch. Fine.

But then, you comment on Ethereums push for Enterprise and you not only have the audacity to question Ethereums ability to scale but also to say it won't be able to be half as good as HEATs ability to scale?!?!

Right now Ethereum has a market cap close to 1.5 Billion USD. HEAT right now is not even included in ANY exchange. Ethereum is a project mostly developed by a group of individuals with known track record and also a community. HEAT is a shithole inside Bitcointalk developed by a man whose track record mainly consists of a failed coin ("FIMK") and an interview on YouTube where he is obviously laughing at the fact that people gave him money for the whitepaper he composed while shitting bricks sitting on a public toilet. Oh and of course you, Eliphaz Savage Fimk, the man who is known for even less. Together you clowns did not present anything by now but a central website where people can click buttons and hope your so-called blockchain won't fork just by looking at it.

If anything this post shows just one thing: Your inability to communicate. For weeks now people ask for you to come forward with something more than an announcement for a new hard fork because once again your code was unable to deliver consistency. But all people got is a shitty "crypto roundup" by an utter idiot whose opinion and comment on any other project than his own is not appreciated by anyone on this planet (That's right not even your mom is interested in the shit you write). But hey, at least we now know that the whole thing is a long-term project. It's not that we already knew that when on the day of release you guys were "still figuring out which features to include in the launch".

Seriously guys, we had enough. Just return the funds. You two clowns are unable to deliver. You guys lack the skills to maintain a software project, let alone the skills needed to solve scalability issues for the masses.

Return the funds.
sr. member
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HEAT Ledger
We are ready to release 0.9.15 server and new (working) windows and linux desktop installs.
Windows installer was changed to use NSIS which should give a better installation experience on windows.

The order issues and public key problems have been fixed which will likely be the end of the forking woes.
The planned release was about to enable miner rewards again at height 87,000 but this as you'll understand when reading on will need to be changed.

Unfortunately the amazon cloud services are experiencing a major world wide outage at the moment which prevents us from uploading the installation files
to github.

Will retry in the morning.
Track amazon cloud services status here https://twitter.com/awscloud
newbie
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its time 4 update bros and sexy ladies, takin a break from my safari where i see the giraffee and shit with my hot babes

heat will enable forging soon!!!!1! this is amazing!!
time to get ur shits in gear for A-O-K (amazing omfg kicking ass) forging income!!!!!!!!!!

never a time like now, to get some cheap Heats!!!!!

many peoples will cry so much in a few months when heat is a real decentralize p2p memory mapped blockchain solution where people can be thier own decentralized exchange issue.

heat will come, and its up to YOUUU to grow balls, buy sum heat!!!!!!!! n not needing to worry about SHIT!!!!!!!!

be like me! buy sum heat + go on a safari!!!!!!!

sr. member
Activity: 631
Merit: 258
I do have criticism regarding past and current state of things and i make my opinion known.
What is your criticism?


Thanks

To name a few:
- To begin with there was/is a very substantial discrepancy between what was conveyed very clearly prior to the ico and what was/is the real state of things de facto. Dev state lagged and lags behind greatly and release of the project suffered great delays despite clear indications to the contrary before they collected funds (yes, they knew their status beforehand and could have given correct honest estimations regarding their state of progress and readiness).
Do you have any evidence of this?

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- Despite having more time than described as needed when they raised funds, they still released a completely broken product in which all the promised features are either missing still or just do not work. It is important to mention that even this late release was forced on them, otherwise they would probably be delaying this for an undefined period time.
So there are some bugs. I think this is to be expected.

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- Despite delays and ambiguity which cause some unrest and doubt with investors, the heat team did not keep good communication with their investors and community and even kept a condescending righteous attitude. They chose to avoid answering questions they did not like regardless of their significance to their investors.
How you know they chose to avoid questions they didn't like. This seems very subjective. You may be frustrated but are you being fair to them?

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- This is supposed to be a decentralized project yet it is currently very much centralized.
Probably unavoidable at this stage though.

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- Commitments that are of fundamental and critical importance to investors where compromised or intended to be compromised from the side of the heat team. You can see several occasions for this (trying to avoid distributing coins that are due to investors who paid for them is a prominent example for such breech of agreement).
Evidence?

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This is just a partial description of a very faulty negligent and suspicious behavior from the part of this project. I can honestly tell you that if this was known beforehand I would never have invested in this (as I am sure would be the case for many of the other investors).
Sure but unanticipated bugs are part and parcel of development
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Every person who sent funds to the project gave them his trust (along with his money). So far they have proven to be unworthy of such trust. They seem to lack the fundamental respect and humility when dealing with their investors, their funds, and the community involved.
Again, this seems very subjective when you have not provided any evidence.

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I can assure you that the feelings I convey are not exclusive only to me, but are felt by many of the others who invested.
Sure I can see people feel aggrieved but I haven't seen any evidence that the problems are not just part and parcel of investing in such a high risk project.

I suppose I regard this as a very ambitious project, and a risky one. So I'm not put off by them having teething problems.

Mind you I did not invest in the ICO, so I may be more upset if I had.

hero member
Activity: 773
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Heatledger.com
Forging rewards are expected to resume this week.
hero member
Activity: 500
Merit: 507
Selling 73k+ heat, PM me for offers.
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
yes it would be nice to have a fair shot at forging. I hope it comes back that would be a great thing
hero member
Activity: 2147
Merit: 518

Despite all the trolling there isn't much selling. Does any one what to to sell?

I would sell it to you, but I was scammed by heatledger ltd. Nothing left to sell!

How much did u lose? There have been reputable posters with over 60K activity publicly stating that they gravitate toward exiting from their positions in HEAT. This is overwhelming news, I know, try not piss in ur pants when reading this.
hero member
Activity: 500
Merit: 507
I do have criticism regarding past and current state of things and i make my opinion known.
What is your criticism?


Thanks

To name a few:
- To begin with there was/is a very substantial discrepancy between what was conveyed very clearly prior to the ico and what was/is the real state of things de facto. Dev state lagged and lags behind greatly and release of the project suffered great delays despite clear indications to the contrary before they collected funds (yes, they knew their status beforehand and could have given correct honest estimations regarding their state of progress and readiness).
- Despite having more time than described as needed when they raised funds, they still released a completely broken product in which all the promised features are either missing still or just do not work. It is important to mention that even this late release was forced on them, otherwise they would probably be delaying this for an undefined period time.
- Despite delays and ambiguity which cause some unrest and doubt with investors, the heat team did not keep good communication with their investors and community and even kept a condescending righteous attitude. They chose to avoid answering questions they did not like regardless of their significance to their investors.
- This is supposed to be a decentralized project yet it is currently very much centralized.
- Commitments that are of fundamental and critical importance to investors where compromised or intended to be compromised from the side of the heat team. You can see several occasions for this (trying to avoid distributing coins that are due to investors who paid for them is a prominent example for such breech of agreement).

This is just a partial description of a very faulty negligent and suspicious behavior from the part of this project. I can honestly tell you that if this was known beforehand I would never have invested in this (as I am sure would be the case for many of the other investors).
Every person who sent funds to the project gave them his trust (along with his money). So far they have proven to be unworthy of such trust. They seem to lack the fundamental respect and humility when dealing with their investors, their funds, and the community involved.
I can assure you that the feelings I convey are not exclusive only to me, but are felt by many of the others who invested.

on a final note: It is true that StewieG behaves in a trollish manor on occasions , that probably helps to ignore him or dismiss what he says, but you should know to see the important details despite the circus he created. He did raise some valid questions and points along the way (some of which where also raised by me and where mostly unaddressed).




Man what a fail posting.

No one need an idiot like some trolls to know what's going on. Or you are an idiot. So here we are.

Heat posted a list they want to integrate into a blockchain  in July 2016.

They raised money because people wanted that product. Full stop.

There was a delay. It's still ongoing. But the product will be long mot ready.

Were you thinking they are going to throw you the heat block chain ready infront of your shoes? Its deeeeevvvveeeelllloooopppmmment. Otherwise they would not raise money, they would just sell it.


The language and logic you chose to use here suggests me that you do struggle from some sort of mental disability, or just bad manors and foul personality, and i feel sorry for your condition.
I guess it is easier to label someone with trolling than trying to be an intelligent free thinking person.
This investment is far from my first and I know perfectly well how development works in this and other spheres. Trying to use this excuse time and time again to avoid accountability is a very weak attempt at best.
It strikes me that some people here (including such as yourself) are pretty much terrified from any words that might help create a bad image for this project, this probably comes from fear that it will damage their investment. This is also the reason they throw praise where praise is not due and try to silence those who find faults in the way this project is run and maintained.
They raised money under several false pretenses, otherwise if they where honest about the real state of things they would collect very little.
They knew perfectly well they are giving a false picture to encourage people to invest.
They had a very distinct inclination to brake previous (legally binding) commitments that where made when they made the ico to collect funds.
If all these points and more seem reasonable to you and acceptable, it is your right (some people are masochistic in nature), but is it also my right to demand answers and accountability when my money rests in the hands of those who currently do not deserve to keep it.  

Have a safe and sound day in your padded room my friend.

hero member
Activity: 1014
Merit: 1055
I do have criticism regarding past and current state of things and i make my opinion known.
What is your criticism?


Thanks

To name a few:
- To begin with there was/is a very substantial discrepancy between what was conveyed very clearly prior to the ico and what was/is the real state of things de facto. Dev state lagged and lags behind greatly and release of the project suffered great delays despite clear indications to the contrary before they collected funds (yes, they knew their status beforehand and could have given correct honest estimations regarding their state of progress and readiness).
- Despite having more time than described as needed when they raised funds, they still released a completely broken product in which all the promised features are either missing still or just do not work. It is important to mention that even this late release was forced on them, otherwise they would probably be delaying this for an undefined period time.
- Despite delays and ambiguity which cause some unrest and doubt with investors, the heat team did not keep good communication with their investors and community and even kept a condescending righteous attitude. They chose to avoid answering questions they did not like regardless of their significance to their investors.
- This is supposed to be a decentralized project yet it is currently very much centralized.
- Commitments that are of fundamental and critical importance to investors where compromised or intended to be compromised from the side of the heat team. You can see several occasions for this (trying to avoid distributing coins that are due to investors who paid for them is a prominent example for such breech of agreement).

This is just a partial description of a very faulty negligent and suspicious behavior from the part of this project. I can honestly tell you that if this was known beforehand I would never have invested in this (as I am sure would be the case for many of the other investors).
Every person who sent funds to the project gave them his trust (along with his money). So far they have proven to be unworthy of such trust. They seem to lack the fundamental respect and humility when dealing with their investors, their funds, and the community involved.
I can assure you that the feelings I convey are not exclusive only to me, but are felt by many of the others who invested.

on a final note: It is true that StewieG behaves in a trollish manor on occasions , that probably helps to ignore him or dismiss what he says, but you should know to see the important details despite the circus he created. He did raise some valid questions and points along the way (some of which where also raised by me and where mostly unaddressed).




Man what a fail posting.

No one need an idiot like some trolls to know what's going on. Or you are an idiot. So here we are.

Heat posted a list they want to integrate into a blockchain  in July 2016.

They raised money because people wanted that product. Full stop.

There was a delay. It's still ongoing. But the product will be long mot ready.

Were you thinking they are going to throw you the heat block chain ready infront of your shoes? Its deeeeevvvveeeelllloooopppmmment. Otherwise they would not raise money, they would just sell it.
hero member
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Could we have a indication of when forging will be back?

 the pop was never in function yet. Let's wait for that first.

There is so much to do and the the tea, super slow as usual
hero member
Activity: 500
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I do have criticism regarding past and current state of things and i make my opinion known.
What is your criticism?


Thanks

To name a few:
- To begin with there was/is a very substantial discrepancy between what was conveyed very clearly prior to the ico and what was/is the real state of things de facto. Dev state lagged and lags behind greatly and release of the project suffered great delays despite clear indications to the contrary before they collected funds (yes, they knew their status beforehand and could have given correct honest estimations regarding their state of progress and readiness).
- Despite having more time than described as needed when they raised funds, they still released a completely broken product in which all the promised features are either missing still or just do not work. It is important to mention that even this late release was forced on them, otherwise they would probably be delaying this for an undefined period time.
- Despite delays and ambiguity which cause some unrest and doubt with investors, the heat team did not keep good communication with their investors and community and even kept a condescending righteous attitude. They chose to avoid answering questions they did not like regardless of their significance to their investors.
- This is supposed to be a decentralized project yet it is currently very much centralized.
- Commitments that are of fundamental and critical importance to investors where compromised or intended to be compromised from the side of the heat team. You can see several occasions for this (trying to avoid distributing coins that are due to investors who paid for them is a prominent example for such breech of agreement).

This is just a partial description of a very faulty negligent and suspicious behavior from the part of this project. I can honestly tell you that if this was known beforehand I would never have invested in this (as I am sure would be the case for many of the other investors).
Every person who sent funds to the project gave them his trust (along with his money). So far they have proven to be unworthy of such trust. They seem to lack the fundamental respect and humility when dealing with their investors, their funds, and the community involved.
I can assure you that the feelings I convey are not exclusive only to me, but are felt by many of the others who invested.

on a final note: It is true that StewieG behaves in a trollish manor on occasions , that probably helps to ignore him or dismiss what he says, but you should know to see the important details despite the circus he created. He did raise some valid questions and points along the way (some of which where also raised by me and where mostly unaddressed).


sr. member
Activity: 631
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I do have criticism regarding past and current state of things and i make my opinion known.
What is your criticism?


Thanks
sr. member
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Merit: 250
shoutofgaia
Could we have a indication of when forging will be back?

Well forging is back, but without rewards.

The team is hesitant to give any timelines because they have and can still lead to misfortunate disappointments. As far as I'm on track there are a few big bugs that are known and under the squash-hammer at the moment. When a release free of those becomes reality, I think we might get a timeline of rewards returning.
hero member
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I didn't eat enough to puke out as much as i need to! Oh ethereum is the new shit and bitcoin is rising. You get more info if you read throug my shitty post! And the same info I could have given you half a year ago, in fact I did! Well not here but ANYHOW! Is this what savage does?! How about some info in heat instead of some seo bull! What a sham!

Edit: I think there a least a hundred bugs and this guy writes about a coins round up?! WTF?! Alone in here there are like at least 5 open questions that are unanswered!? Why not instead answer these questions? Why do the completely unrelated blog-post? Oh yeah it is a preapartion for the upcoming IPO where they want to lure new investors into giving them money! FUCK THAT BULL!
legendary
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Could we have a indication of when forging will be back?
hero member
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Heatledger.com
hero member
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very alike this situation here indeed... Except that here are some people trying to keep up appearances and drinking the kool aide.

Listening to trolls and making decisions based on what they say is never a good idea. I make my own decisions, and at the moment I'm still open to Heat.
Trolls usually have no idea particularly when they become so irrational and emotional, as is the case with Heat.

Despite all the trolling there isn't much selling. Does any one what to to sell?

Being critical does not necessarily make someone a troll, it is the modus operendy by which you make your critic known that can make such differentiation. do not confuse trolling with criticism (and no, i do not claim there was no trolling in this thread).
I do have criticism regarding past and current state of things and i make my opinion known. i think it is our duty as investors and community not to blindly accept everything without careful examination, and to ask questions and expect relevant answers.

In regard to selling i think that the current limitations in liquidity, price,  and exchange outlets make it harder for people to sell. there are enough people who are interested in selling waiting for the appropriate outlet to do so. This will probably be more visible as we move forward.
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