Topic: [ANN] [ICO] LASER Escrow Technology Changing Smart Contracts as Whole - page 7. (Read 10377 times)

You bought BTB coins because you had planned to make money, or it's just to collect them.
You can not judge how investors use their money.
The one that bought at ICO at 0.02 has the same right as the one that bought at coinexchange at 0.02.
The one that bought at ICO at 0.4 has the same right as the one that bought at coinexchange at $ 5. This is how the coin market works.
It was Yakov who opened the doors to coinexchange and enabled coinexchange to win new investors, as do all the existing coins.
No matter what the ratio of Swap, it should be the same for everyone.

How can it b same coin name?
lasercoin.co and lasercoin.io? Wich one is Real?     

why not make a telegram channel ?

as I have said I am just a moderator, I never got an access with transactions or users fund but  as a Moderator I will advise yakov not to do this 1:1 swap, it will just ruin the new coin. totally disagree on what you believe

Why do you believe that the people that buy your coin in coinexchange must lose, if in fact those who should lose would be you and Yakov for committing the alleged error with the miners..
If you make the wrong decision to make a swap with a different ratio, you and Yakov will have to face the justice, because I myself will file a report with the cyber crime FBI division. The justice did not care where the coin was bought and if they consider you would probably end up imprisoned for large-scale fraud and returning the money you collected during the ICO. I would not like to see your face when you have to explain to the FBI the story of the hackers and the miners and the exchange.

The people who bought at $ 1, $ 2, $ 3, $ 4 and $ 5 per coin in coinexchange,  how do you think they are going to react with an unfair swap.

You know what is right and wrong, so I hope you make the right decision, otherwise you will have to give explanations of your actions.

I hope that investors, both those who bought in bitbase platfrom and coinexchange begin to open their eyes, because surely this kind of cheating will continue repeating and after waiting for the lending period, they may tell you that the hackers stole the money, that they was hacked, that other miners took their coins or the most incredible invention.
If they are behaving like this now,  I can not imagine how they can behave in the future.
Also, I would like to see how they explain to the FBI their wonderful lending program with their Volatily Bot.

1: 1 ratio swap from coinexchange is impossible. We will just end up on the same road and it would be really unfair for the investors to suffer from those miners who hold loads of coins. it will ruin the new coin if we allow this to happen.

Dear Yakov

i think you need to consider a new coin name.. not Laser

because already laser.online which is HYIP website and lasercoin.co which is another new coin that in ico phase.. and now ours is lasercoin.io ?

it's so confusing bro.. especially for a new investor.. maybe they start speculating or maybe fear to buy our new coin..

i hope you change it with another name that maybe more have selling point lika Worldbase.io or maybe coinbase.io or whatever it is as long has originality


regards

There is already another Laser Coin ICO going on. Website: https://lasercoin.co/
It is going to be confusing.


What I understood based on previous post: All the coins purchased during ICO will be converted 1 for 1. All the 50 free coins will be awarded. All the coins on CE will be converted 1 for 10. Please confirm.


Regards.

After Yakov said that the coin in the exchanges would be included in the swap, I don't see people running to buy it, I don't even see that the price has risen a little ...
Do you think it's fair that people who pay 10 times what they you pay in the exchange is punished as you want ... Some people bought in the exchanges at $ 1, $ 2, $ 3, $ 4 and up to $ 5 per coin ...

Many people who buy in ICO, earn a lot of money selling on exchange and then bought back cheaper in bitbase platform ... who is guilty, who buy in the exchange or who sold their ICO coins?
The answer is: NOBODY   
This is how the coin market works, if you are an investor, you should know.

I invested into this at $0.4. I'm tellin ya this fair / unfair game is endless. Everyone has their opinion on this.
But I think dev should support people who originally purchased his coins on his own ICO. We believed in this idea since the very beginning.
Other people just ran into the exchange gobbling cheap dirty coins and they get instant x100 when their coins get converted to laser. This is what I think is completely unfair.

If this 1:1 policy goes through, people will have their $600 turned into $30k like nothing happened. They will do whatever they can to cash out ASAP. This will ruin the new project. You keep ignoring the fact that with that people that need to be saved will come a lot of people that will be able to dump on us again.

And these people who bought at $0.02 right now are NOT the minority, they are majority here.

Agree 100%. All the coins are the same. All investors have the same right, no one should have priority over another when it is the same coin, regardless of where it was purchased or the price that was purchased.
Sure, Techtrader250 was one of those who invested $ 6000 when the price in the ICO was $ 0.02, and now it seems unfair that others buy cheap like him.

I think 1: 1 is very fair, because people who did not trust the project sold their money cheaply to run away, only those who trust the new project stay here, and believe in this money.

Being exploited and sold is unintentional error, just the boss to fix the system, help people lending and get back his coin accurately.

When things are stable, prices will rise and everyone will make the best of it

And who thinks they will lose when they buy a low price, so why now, the price is very low, why do not you buy it a lot to convert a lot of new.

Value for money is the same, only different you trust it or not, trust you will hold, do not trust you will sell it.

Looking forward to good news from Yakovfabrizio

You can say goodbye to $1 price forever if Yakov decides to do 1:1. Good luck buddy, I'm moving on anyway.
If 1:1 happens it would be unfair to me as the original believer and investor, because I have 6k and someone for the same money bought 100k coins. $1 would be unsustainable, I'm telling ya, 100% sure. But whatever dev decides, I'm ready to lose everything and I wont blame him.

I would be happy to witness people's coins dump again to $0.02. I would give away my money for this show. Democracy here is pure pain in the ass, people always scream for something and when they get it, their ass gets ruined

The only way 1:1 swap from coinexchange can happen is if we lock all these coins into low interest lending for 4 years.

Fortunately there is not a boat or people to save ... But if I have to select someone to get on the boat, believe me it is not you who I would choose. Your comparison has nothing to do with the problem that is happening here..

The amount of coins remains the same and they allowed the mining, so that any mined currency should have already been planned.
If you read their Whitepaper, the sale of the 100,000,000 coins in the ICO was planned. So I do not know what you are talking about, nobody has to spend 50 millions to save this project. The project can be saved only if things are done well and people selfish like you, stop prioritize. Since every person who has a btbc coins is it's like any other, nobody is more important than another and all the coins are the same, regardless of where they bought them.
The worst mistake that can be made is to continue making bad decisions and continue ignoring problems.

You must understand this, if someone is left out, the whole project will fail... if everyone stays inside, even if it costs a little more time to start, lowering the interests, in the end the trust will be consolidated for having acted correctly and everything will begin to function correctly and new investors will trust and will grow the value of the coin.
Do you believe that a project where bad decisions are made, where an unfair swap has been offered, will receive new investments ...?

Imagine you have a boat that can save only 40 drowning people, max 60. You've got 500 people around you screaming for help too. Would you just take them onboard sinking this boat and make the body count 561 or you just take 60 with you and at least have a chance to survive making this body count 439 instead of 561?

This is pretty binary thing here. Either we all die together or some of us manage to survive. I dont believe dev has spare 50 million dollars to keep everyone onboard (he risks his money too by the way).

The world is a fucking cruel place, you all act like children ffs.

I believe that neither you nor anyone should lose or sacrifice anything... the project can work as long as the right things are done and no decisions are made on the fly that always harm everyone.
When I speak, I do it from outside my shoes. I should not worry so much, since my BTBs are on the platform, but that does not help the others or solve anything. It is necessary that they solve the root problem.
Here all those who invest money in this platform are hurt, every time bad decisions are take. That's why I think they have to start from scratch. Make the swap 1:1 and from there start fresh. That the miners or whoever has coins and is selling them in coinexchange, is not the fault of those who bought in Ico, nor those who bought in coinexchange. Because if we want this to go ahead, there must be a real solution. and the only real solution is a 1:1 swap, because if someone is left out or offers an unfair swap, the affected investors will make the new project fall, reporting being victims of fraud to the authorities for having offered different swaps ratio for the same coin ... no matter where the coin was purchased.

Do you realise that miners are not that stupid to put all of 30 mil on the sells? They keep like x30 more on their balance to not scare everyone off. I've seen +-500k supply fluctuations a day ago. Someone could just put a 250k BTBc sell like its nothing.  They do it quietly. By the way I had 50% of my BTBc on Coinexchange that I bought for $5,000 at $0.6 and I'm READY to sacrifice all this if it lets the project survive.

Otherwise u fucking people will keep going in circles in the end we get all this dumping story on repeat. Until the project just dies out. We have TOO MUCH supply now. We must reduce it x10 at least. The best is x40

I think you have a very selfish thought that does not solve any problem.
There are 1,300,000 for sell at Coinexchange right now, so I do not know where you get the 30,000,000 figure. In any case, if they do an swap, the coins that the miners have within the coinexchange will be swap equally. Those who are not miners who bought the same as you in exchanges, changing their BTC for BTBc do not count ..?
Why do you think you have more right  than someone who bought in exchange? Today, their coins are worth the same as the miners have and those who have bought in exchanges.

If you wish to gobble all these 30 million coins on CE be my guest. Buy all of them to show your support lol.
Miners will happily throw you a couple of millions more. And then they move to Laser platform and earn passive income from our pockets.

I think Yakov will now start doing things right and try to solve ALL THE PROBLEMS of the past.
He has already said that he will restore the 50 free btbc to all those who won them by registering. (as was initially promised by signup reward)
I also think that if Yahov want to start doing things right, he will make a 1:1 swap, since those who bought at ICO at low prices and those who bought at exchange at low prices are investors too.
In coinexchange many people sold their coins in lost and others took advantage and bought them, that's not bad, that's how the coin market works.

Many of the investors at the beginning also took advantage and ran out to sell their coins to the coinexchange for values ​​of $ 1, $ 2, $ 3, $ 4 and up to $ 5 and they returned to Bitbase exchange to buy cheap and so they repeated that operation several times.
Those who bought in conexchange have the same coin that were sold at some time in the ICO.
They say that some miners mined and took advantage ... but that should be within the plans, since it was a minable coin and would eventually be mined .. Yakov should not allow more deposits in coinexchange and the miners could not continue sending coins.
An exchange 1 BTBc = 1 Laser would be the best solution and it would start with all the investors happy and talking well about the project. This would solve all the problems and give a clean start.

This project to grow needs the support of ALL. As long as there are dissatisfied people with dishonest swap, or with any other kind of problems, the project will continue dragging problems ... and investors will be harmed. I recommend SWAP 1: 1 and final closure of Bitbase.io.   FRESH START AND EVERYBODY HAPPY!!!