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Topic: 🔥 [ANN] 🔥 [ICO] 🚀 Miner One - Cutting-Edge Bitcoin Mining. 🔵 🔵 Crowdfunded. - page 38. (Read 29689 times)

newbie
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Is it likely that investors will receive more than 13% monthly? Under what circumstances can this happen?

Returns will vary based on BTC prices, mining difficulty, and other factors. We are keen not to overpromise. Please see our White Paper for calculations and estimates based on various scenarios: https://minerone.io/doc/minerone_whitepaper.pdf
member
Activity: 238
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Has the company already reached the hard cap?
member
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It’s better to put a couple of farms at home then to give money to other people and wait until they’ll start bringing profit. You’ll lose more than you earn.
This is the matter of argument. The profitability depends on the region you’re living in ‘cause the main point is the cost of electricity. In addition, in some regions large consumption of electricity is impossible. In this case your farms wont be able to work.
But the MinerOne mining centers will be located in the cities and ill purchase the electricity at the same price.   
A usual person purchases electricity at a retail price. MinerOne, due to its size, will buy the electricity at industrial prices. This is cheaper by 30-50%. In addition, the mining centers will be located in the regions with the cheapest electricity.
What about the transparence of distribution of income? Wont there be an opportunity to conceal some share of the coins mined?
full member
Activity: 392
Merit: 100
It’s better to put a couple of farms at home then to give money to other people and wait until they’ll start bringing profit. You’ll lose more than you earn.
This is the matter of argument. The profitability depends on the region you’re living in ‘cause the main point is the cost of electricity. In addition, in some regions large consumption of electricity is impossible. In this case your farms wont be able to work.
But the MinerOne mining centers will be located in the cities and ill purchase the electricity at the same price.   
A usual person purchases electricity at a retail price. MinerOne, due to its size, will buy the electricity at industrial prices. This is cheaper by 30-50%. In addition, the mining centers will be located in the regions with the cheapest electricity.
member
Activity: 210
Merit: 10
It’s better to put a couple of farms at home then to give money to other people and wait until they’ll start bringing profit. You’ll lose more than you earn.
This is the matter of argument. The profitability depends on the region you’re living in ‘cause the main point is the cost of electricity. In addition, in some regions large consumption of electricity is impossible. In this case your farms wont be able to work.
But the MinerOne mining centers will be located in the cities and ill purchase the electricity at the same price.   
full member
Activity: 392
Merit: 100
It’s better to put a couple of farms at home then to give money to other people and wait until they’ll start bringing profit. You’ll lose more than you earn.
This is the matter of argument. The profitability depends on the region you’re living in ‘cause the main point is the cost of electricity. In addition, in some regions large consumption of electricity is impossible. In this case your farms wont be able to work.
member
Activity: 210
Merit: 10
It’s better to put a couple of farms at home then to give money to other people and wait until they’ll start bringing profit. You’ll lose more than you earn.
newbie
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If you aren’t aimed at sale of bitcoins collected, how will you make profit? Due to what will you pay dividends to the investors?

Yes, it is a risky venture and we clearly state that from the very beginning. Majors risks are bitcoin price and difficulty ratio. This includes the buying power of the ICO, as well as equipment process, installation costs, etc. Yes, there is a chance that the data center will not be as profitable as we expect. Say, today’s rate of ETH is just half of what it was two months ago. This reduces the number of miners we can actually buy at the end of ICO if the price remains the same. The entire project may even fail for usual business or regulatory reasons.

If it will be unprofitable to mine bitcoin we will use 23% of output assigned for upgrades to switch to another cryptocurrency. And according to our plans, we are not going to interrupt mining process and as a result payouts. So, you can see, in that case, that we are following the idea of the profitable mining and would try to find the solution in any case.

There are certainly risks and they should not be underestimated. Future prices and exchange rates of cryptocurrencies are impossible to predict, as is mining difficulty, the evolution of legal regulations, future price of electricity, hardware, and other factors. We will do everything we can to mitigate these risks, but there is no way anyone can eliminate them. That is why our general advice is not to risk more than you can afford to lose. On the other hand, if we succeed, the gains could be double- or even triple-digit, it is may be announced due to our calculations.


That’s why I asked: Why are you fundraising in ETH, not in fiat? As you are saying yourself, with the current price of ETH, you can buy half of the planned miners...and putting your investors in danger. Moreover, I believe you will be paying for the equipment, maintenance, staff, rent etc in fiat. Why in the world would the company decide to fundraise in ETH?

Also, how is it possible that 4-5% of output will cover all operational costs, including electricity, when around 25% will go towards covering only the electricity, based on the price per kw/h stated on your website (EUR 0.065) and current mining profitability?

First of all, we are not fundraising only in ETH. We are also accepting fiat (EUR), as well as LTC and BTC.

Secondly, the 4-5% estimated operating costs do not include electricity, as stated in the White Paper. Please read it. It's important.

Third, let's not sow panic about mining profitability. First of all, Miner One will be buying top-of-the-line miners and will mine with an efficiency that will put other miners to shame. The current difficulty:BTC price ratio will have the effect of pushing out inefficient miners, leaving more room at the top for Miner One and others who know how to do it right.

Lastly, we do not expect the current difficulty:BTC price ratio to stay as it is over the long haul. Remember: Miner One is not a 1- or 2-month project, and we are not amateurs. Our team knows what it is doing. So if anyone has a shot at being successful, it's Miner One.

That said, it's important to keep the risks in mind. As we've said many times, it's a new and unsettled field with risks as well as great potential rewards. People who are looking for a sure bet with zero risk should look elsewhere.

Thank you for your reply!

Your target cap is calculated in ETH, so the price of ETH influences the final outcome of the fundraising.

You stated yourself that at the current price of ETH, you will be able to buy less equipment, so I think it makes more sense for you guys to calculate the target cap in fiat.

BTW I did read the white paper (I got the 4-5% information from there), FAQ etc.

https://prnt.sc/itmygd

If you check the link, you can see the 4-5% thing. So the electricity is not calculated in those 4-5%?

Also, at another page it says the operational costs are 18% (https://prnt.sc/itn0co), I found the information confusing, so could you please clarify the total operation cost including electricity (at the current price of BTC)?
newbie
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What does mean that MinerOne can be kinda “cushion” which absorbs the volatility of the exchange rate of bitcoin?

Check out this article for a brief explanation. Then read our White Paper.

https://medium.com/@minerone.io/wild-swings-in-btc-prices-miner-one-can-protect-you-9bee2199a827
newbie
Activity: 112
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Have the timeframes of the ICO been extended?
Judging by the counter on the site, yes. Now there’re more than 12 days left until the end of the sale.

Our ICO was scheduled for 90 days from the outset. We have several rounds/phases with different discounts.
newbie
Activity: 112
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You income will be less than you expect it to be ‘cause the cost of equipment increases constantly and retailers also set their mark-ups. So this will be a ig problem for you.
The company wont have problems with prices, it will acquire equipment at bargain price so income wont differ from the predicted one.
Does MinerOne has any special terms for purchase of equipment?)))
Yep, something like that. They have established contacts with largest producers of mining equipment and they will buy it without any mark-ups and with wholesale discounts.
It’s great that the management of the company has taken care of that. Could you tell me please what producers they have established contact with?

Bitmain, Ebang and Canaan.
newbie
Activity: 112
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You income will be less than you expect it to be ‘cause the cost of equipment increases constantly and retailers also set their mark-ups. So this will be a ig problem for you.
The company wont have problems with prices, it will acquire equipment at bargain price so income wont differ from the predicted one.
Does MinerOne has any special terms for purchase of equipment?)))

Yes.
newbie
Activity: 112
Merit: 0
You income will be less than you expect it to be ‘cause the cost of equipment increases constantly and retailers also set their mark-ups. So this will be a ig problem for you.

Not true. Equipment prices are now falling, and new products are coming online very soon, according to info gathered during our visits with manufacturers in China. It's a great time to buy, as a matter of fact, and manufacturers are willing to make deals.
newbie
Activity: 112
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If you aren’t aimed at sale of bitcoins collected, how will you make profit? Due to what will you pay dividends to the investors?

Yes, it is a risky venture and we clearly state that from the very beginning. Majors risks are bitcoin price and difficulty ratio. This includes the buying power of the ICO, as well as equipment process, installation costs, etc. Yes, there is a chance that the data center will not be as profitable as we expect. Say, today’s rate of ETH is just half of what it was two months ago. This reduces the number of miners we can actually buy at the end of ICO if the price remains the same. The entire project may even fail for usual business or regulatory reasons.

If it will be unprofitable to mine bitcoin we will use 23% of output assigned for upgrades to switch to another cryptocurrency. And according to our plans, we are not going to interrupt mining process and as a result payouts. So, you can see, in that case, that we are following the idea of the profitable mining and would try to find the solution in any case.

There are certainly risks and they should not be underestimated. Future prices and exchange rates of cryptocurrencies are impossible to predict, as is mining difficulty, the evolution of legal regulations, future price of electricity, hardware, and other factors. We will do everything we can to mitigate these risks, but there is no way anyone can eliminate them. That is why our general advice is not to risk more than you can afford to lose. On the other hand, if we succeed, the gains could be double- or even triple-digit, it is may be announced due to our calculations.


That’s why I asked: Why are you fundraising in ETH, not in fiat? As you are saying yourself, with the current price of ETH, you can buy half of the planned miners...and putting your investors in danger. Moreover, I believe you will be paying for the equipment, maintenance, staff, rent etc in fiat. Why in the world would the company decide to fundraise in ETH?

Also, how is it possible that 4-5% of output will cover all operational costs, including electricity, when around 25% will go towards covering only the electricity, based on the price per kw/h stated on your website (EUR 0.065) and current mining profitability?

First of all, we are not fundraising only in ETH. We are also accepting fiat (EUR), as well as LTC and BTC.

Secondly, the 4-5% estimated operating costs do not include electricity, as stated in the White Paper. Please read it. It's important.

Third, let's not sow panic about mining profitability. First of all, Miner One will be buying top-of-the-line miners and will mine with an efficiency that will put other miners to shame. The current difficulty:BTC price ratio will have the effect of pushing out inefficient miners, leaving more room at the top for Miner One and others who know how to do it right.

Lastly, we do not expect the current difficulty:BTC price ratio to stay as it is over the long haul. Remember: Miner One is not a 1- or 2-month project, and we are not amateurs. Our team knows what it is doing. So if anyone has a shot at being successful, it's Miner One.

That said, it's important to keep the risks in mind. As we've said many times, it's a new and unsettled field with risks as well as great potential rewards. People who are looking for a sure bet with zero risk should look elsewhere.
member
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When will these be listed on exchanges so those of us in the USA can buy some?
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
If you aren’t aimed at sale of bitcoins collected, how will you make profit? Due to what will you pay dividends to the investors?

Yes, it is a risky venture and we clearly state that from the very beginning. Majors risks are bitcoin price and difficulty ratio. This includes the buying power of the ICO, as well as equipment process, installation costs, etc. Yes, there is a chance that the data center will not be as profitable as we expect. Say, today’s rate of ETH is just half of what it was two months ago. This reduces the number of miners we can actually buy at the end of ICO if the price remains the same. The entire project may even fail for usual business or regulatory reasons.

If it will be unprofitable to mine bitcoin we will use 23% of output assigned for upgrades to switch to another cryptocurrency. And according to our plans, we are not going to interrupt mining process and as a result payouts. So, you can see, in that case, that we are following the idea of the profitable mining and would try to find the solution in any case.

There are certainly risks and they should not be underestimated. Future prices and exchange rates of cryptocurrencies are impossible to predict, as is mining difficulty, the evolution of legal regulations, future price of electricity, hardware, and other factors. We will do everything we can to mitigate these risks, but there is no way anyone can eliminate them. That is why our general advice is not to risk more than you can afford to lose. On the other hand, if we succeed, the gains could be double- or even triple-digit, it is may be announced due to our calculations.


That’s why I asked: Why are you fundraising in ETH, not in fiat? As you are saying yourself, with the current price of ETH, you can buy half of the planned miners...and putting your investors in danger. Moreover, I believe you will be paying for the equipment, maintenance, staff, rent etc in fiat. Why in the world would the company decide to fundraise in ETH?

Also, how is it possible that 4-5% of output will cover all operational costs, including electricity, when around 25% will go towards covering only the electricity, based on the price per kw/h stated on your website (EUR 0.065) and current mining profitability?
newbie
Activity: 112
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Will you get any additional discounts from the electricity supplies for large amount of electricity used?

In Luleå, electricity is very cheap (we are getting the lowest rates in Europe here at 0.065 euro per kWh), supply is stable (lots of green power from hydro) and air is cool (average annual temperature is 2C) which keeps cooling costs minimal. BTW, Facebook will be our neighbors – they have a huge data centre here (the size of 11 football fields).

Here is more useful information https://medium.com/@minerone.io/miner-one-moves-forward-in-sweden-d94b0c9bf2ba
newbie
Activity: 112
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Will your large mining centers have any impact on such important mining characteristic as Difficulty?

Yes of course, a lot depend on what the mining difficulty will be. If difficulty drops, profitability would increase. Please note: if BTC price or mining conditions push it below a level at which we can mine profitably, we will pause mining operations. We will be keeping a reserve to maintain the centres for some time during a severe downturn. If BTC recovers, we expect to resume operations. If we can foresee a situation developing that makes mining other cryptocurrencies a better bet, we can use the 23% of net output set aside for upgrades to make the switch.

full member
Activity: 280
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What experience do you have in building the mining centers?  Which ones created by you are working at the moment?
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