Topic: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform - page 100. (Read 1253940 times)
They should be able to jump over to another token! We are starting something similar with ETH but intend to jump over to WAVES or LISK as soon as possible. I am not a fan of ETH at all lol
Are there any people concerned that ICONOMI is being supported by ETHEREUM, folks, is there any considerable risk of everything going wrong with any ETH platform instability? We know that LSK so far has not delivered anything! If something happens, how can I save the ICONOMI project?
If I place a purchase order in the amount of 100 BTC, can I manipulate the price? How many BTC do I need to have to make the price shoot? The term "whale" is assigned to the people who own how much of BTC?
Over 2000BTC will grant you "whale" label. I have observed enough pumps on Mintpal, Cryptsy, Bittrex and Poloniex for nearly 5 years. 100BTC is a good investment in ICO, but nothing more. 500BTC is your magic number if you want to move a price of a new and promising coin with good volume like ICN. Keep in mind that move, doesn`t mean pump. With 500BTC you can move price on Kraken. If ICN is on Poloniex, you will need bots which costs 300-700 euro and at least 3000BTC. Keep in mind that top 10 coins are always into the spotlights and many people doesn`t place sell orders, but are keeping their coins on the exchanges and waiting for good price. You will also need 5-15 real people to create enough hype in forums, Facebook, Twitter, etc. You can not do it alone. So, are you ready to become whale?
Whale is a relative/subjective term. If you had 3000 BTC and asked Warren Buffet if he considers you a whale he would laugh like this:
I'm friends with Warren, I'm gonna ask him to invest most of his capital in ICN, he'll agree trust me.
If I place a purchase order in the amount of 100 BTC, can I manipulate the price? How many BTC do I need to have to make the price shoot? The term "whale" is assigned to the people who own how much of BTC?
Over 2000BTC will grant you "whale" label. I have observed enough pumps on Mintpal, Cryptsy, Bittrex and Poloniex for nearly 5 years. 100BTC is a good investment in ICO, but nothing more. 500BTC is your magic number if you want to move a price of a new and promising coin with good volume like ICN. Keep in mind that move, doesn`t mean pump. With 500BTC you can move price on Kraken. If ICN is on Poloniex, you will need bots which costs 300-700 euro and at least 3000BTC. Keep in mind that top 10 coins are always into the spotlights and many people doesn`t place sell orders, but are keeping their coins on the exchanges and waiting for good price. You will also need 5-15 real people to create enough hype in forums, Facebook, Twitter, etc. You can not do it alone. So, are you ready to become whale?
Whale is a relative/subjective term. If you had 3000 BTC and asked Warren Buffet if he considers you a whale he would laugh like this:
Yes. I was talking in terms of pumping ICN. When ETC was about to be PnD for the first time, you remember that volume just on POLO was more than 120K BTC. And how about pumping BTC.
I am sure that even this old man from Omaha or at least his right hand - Charlie Munger will think twice about calling himself whale. 
You're right he probably wouldn't. Those who brag don't have. Those who have don't need to.
It's that easy.
If I place a purchase order in the amount of 100 BTC, can I manipulate the price? How many BTC do I need to have to make the price shoot? The term "whale" is assigned to the people who own how much of BTC?
Over 2000BTC will grant you "whale" label. I have observed enough pumps on Mintpal, Cryptsy, Bittrex and Poloniex for nearly 5 years. 100BTC is a good investment in ICO, but nothing more. 500BTC is your magic number if you want to move a price of a new and promising coin with good volume like ICN. Keep in mind that move, doesn`t mean pump. With 500BTC you can move price on Kraken. If ICN is on Poloniex, you will need bots which costs 300-700 euro and at least 3000BTC. Keep in mind that top 10 coins are always into the spotlights and many people doesn`t place sell orders, but are keeping their coins on the exchanges and waiting for good price. You will also need 5-15 real people to create enough hype in forums, Facebook, Twitter, etc. You can not do it alone. So, are you ready to become whale?
Whale is a relative/subjective term. If you had 3000 BTC and asked Warren Buffet if he considers you a whale he would laugh like this:
Yes. I was talking in terms of pumping ICN. When ETC was about to be PnD for the first time, you remember that volume just on POLO was more than 120K BTC. And how about pumping BTC.
I am sure that even this old man from Omaha or at least his right hand - Charlie Munger will think twice about calling himself whale. I am thinking not only will ICN be a top 10 crypto coin, ICNX and ICNP will be as well.
You're thinking right man!
If I place a purchase order in the amount of 100 BTC, can I manipulate the price? How many BTC do I need to have to make the price shoot? The term "whale" is assigned to the people who own how much of BTC?
Over 2000BTC will grant you "whale" label. I have observed enough pumps on Mintpal, Cryptsy, Bittrex and Poloniex for nearly 5 years. 100BTC is a good investment in ICO, but nothing more. 500BTC is your magic number if you want to move a price of a new and promising coin with good volume like ICN. Keep in mind that move, doesn`t mean pump. With 500BTC you can move price on Kraken. If ICN is on Poloniex, you will need bots which costs 300-700 euro and at least 3000BTC. Keep in mind that top 10 coins are always into the spotlights and many people doesn`t place sell orders, but are keeping their coins on the exchanges and waiting for good price. You will also need 5-15 real people to create enough hype in forums, Facebook, Twitter, etc. You can not do it alone. So, are you ready to become whale?
With this explanation, ofc he is not and probably he never will be.
But you can "move" things without bots, with lower amount than 500BTC or at least be a part of a bigger "fish" that you are atm.
Still though you are correct. You need help from others. Bots or real ppl...
If I place a purchase order in the amount of 100 BTC, can I manipulate the price? How many BTC do I need to have to make the price shoot? The term "whale" is assigned to the people who own how much of BTC?
Over 2000BTC will grant you "whale" label. I have observed enough pumps on Mintpal, Cryptsy, Bittrex and Poloniex for nearly 5 years. 100BTC is a good investment in ICO, but nothing more. 500BTC is your magic number if you want to move a price of a new and promising coin with good volume like ICN. Keep in mind that move, doesn`t mean pump. With 500BTC you can move price on Kraken. If ICN is on Poloniex, you will need bots which costs 300-700 euro and at least 3000BTC. Keep in mind that top 10 coins are always into the spotlights and many people doesn`t place sell orders, but are keeping their coins on the exchanges and waiting for good price. You will also need 5-15 real people to create enough hype in forums, Facebook, Twitter, etc. You can not do it alone. So, are you ready to become whale?
Whale is a relative/subjective term. If you had 3000 BTC and asked Warren Buffet if he considers you a whale he would laugh like this:
If I place a purchase order in the amount of 100 BTC, can I manipulate the price? How many BTC do I need to have to make the price shoot? The term "whale" is assigned to the people who own how much of BTC?
Over 2000BTC will grant you "whale" label. I have observed enough pumps on Mintpal, Cryptsy, Bittrex and Poloniex for nearly 5 years. 100BTC is a good investment in ICO, but nothing more. 500BTC is your magic number if you want to move a price of a new and promising coin with good volume like ICN. Keep in mind that move, doesn`t mean pump. With 500BTC you can move price on Kraken. If ICN is on Poloniex, you will need bots which costs 300-700 euro and at least 3000BTC. Keep in mind that top 10 coins are always into the spotlights and many people doesn`t place sell orders, but are keeping their coins on the exchanges and waiting for good price. You will also need 5-15 real people to create enough hype in forums, Facebook, Twitter, etc. You can not do it alone. So, are you ready to become whale?
Tim Zagar, Give us some news please, we are looking ur mouth
Enough info?
This was just posted in slack.They are almost ready to launch. Jani said on Slack that they will make the Launch announcement soon, probably this coming week.
why trolling?
P.S. WarrenBuffet are you on slack?
If I place a purchase order in the amount of 100 BTC, can I manipulate the price? How many BTC do I need to have to make the price shoot? The term "whale" is assigned to the people who own how much of BTC?
If you have 100 BTC, a good strategy is to place 10 x 10 BTC market buys on Kraken spread out over 1 day in order to start a massive pump.
If I place a purchase order in the amount of 100 BTC, can I manipulate the price? How many BTC do I need to have to make the price shoot? The term "whale" is assigned to the people who own how much of BTC?
If you have 100 BTC, a good strategy is to place 10 x 10 BTC market buys on Kraken spread out over 1 day in order to start a massive pump.
There will be 2 big pumps in 2017. First one is coming soon. Next couple of weeks an official announcement will read "Iconomi.index released - Accounts open for registration'. They said things will 'flow' after that. So few major announcements will be made between now and March:
1- "Iconomi.index released - Accounts open for registration '$.50-$1'
2- " Fiat deposits now accepted $1+
3- " ICN and ICNX available for trading on following major exchanges" $1-$3
4- "First dividends payout is on the way - move your ICN off exchange to receive dividend" $5 briefly then correction back to $3 once first dividend has been paid.
In March-May, price should be stable around $2-$3. It will go sideways for a couple of months, with a few dumps. A clear cup and handle formation will show on the charts. Then June/July Following announcements:
1- OFM platform released - create your own fund bitches - will pump to ATH and find resistance around $5, this will be the handle part of the cup and handle formation
2- At the same time....Big PR campaign, Forbes, International Business times, even playboy will publish about ICN, start of new rally $5-$7
3 - At the same time... Your visa/mastercard is on the way bitches, no need to cash out into btc or have the tax man knock on your door, now you can buy Lamborghini directly with your ICN - $10+
It's hard to predict what the ATH will be during second rally. $10 is minimum and that is conservative... FOMO doesn't care about logic, and it doesn't care that ICN used to be $.20-$.40. It doesn't care that the price now is too high based on the value the platform is generating or the number of users or the dividends that you receive. FOMO does not give a fuck. It ends when there are no more buyers....Price is irrelevant. It can end at $10 or $100, no one can predict this and it depends how much new money is pumped from old economy.
Anyway... most people here will get excited and sell too early, buy back in, then sell early again etc... The smart people will HOLD and simply buy more ICN during the dumps.
1- "Iconomi.index released - Accounts open for registration '$.50-$1'
2- " Fiat deposits now accepted $1+
3- " ICN and ICNX available for trading on following major exchanges" $1-$3
4- "First dividends payout is on the way - move your ICN off exchange to receive dividend" $5 briefly then correction back to $3 once first dividend has been paid.
In March-May, price should be stable around $2-$3. It will go sideways for a couple of months, with a few dumps. A clear cup and handle formation will show on the charts. Then June/July Following announcements:
1- OFM platform released - create your own fund bitches - will pump to ATH and find resistance around $5, this will be the handle part of the cup and handle formation
2- At the same time....Big PR campaign, Forbes, International Business times, even playboy will publish about ICN, start of new rally $5-$7
3 - At the same time... Your visa/mastercard is on the way bitches, no need to cash out into btc or have the tax man knock on your door, now you can buy Lamborghini directly with your ICN - $10+
It's hard to predict what the ATH will be during second rally. $10 is minimum and that is conservative... FOMO doesn't care about logic, and it doesn't care that ICN used to be $.20-$.40. It doesn't care that the price now is too high based on the value the platform is generating or the number of users or the dividends that you receive. FOMO does not give a fuck. It ends when there are no more buyers....Price is irrelevant. It can end at $10 or $100, no one can predict this and it depends how much new money is pumped from old economy.
Anyway... most people here will get excited and sell too early, buy back in, then sell early again etc... The smart people will HOLD and simply buy more ICN during the dumps.
YEs this is a good thread and I think very realistic indeed.
Tim Zagar, Give us some news please, we are looking ur mouth
Enough info?
This was just posted in slack.They are almost ready to launch. Jani said on Slack that they will make the Launch announcement soon, probably this coming week.
There will be 2 big pumps in 2017. First one is coming soon. Next couple of weeks an official announcement will read "Iconomi.index released - Accounts open for registration'. They said things will 'flow' after that. So few major announcements will be made between now and March:
1- "Iconomi.index released - Accounts open for registration '$.50-$1'
2- " Fiat deposits now accepted $1+
3- " ICN and ICNX available for trading on following major exchanges" $1-$3
4- "First dividends payout is on the way - move your ICN off exchange to receive dividend" $5 briefly then correction back to $3 once first dividend has been paid.
In March-May, price should be stable around $2-$3. It will go sideways for a couple of months, with a few dumps. A clear cup and handle formation will show on the charts. Then June/July Following announcements:
1- OFM platform released - create your own fund bitches - will pump to ATH and find resistance around $5, this will be the handle part of the cup and handle formation
2- At the same time....Big PR campaign, Forbes, International Business times, even playboy will publish about ICN, start of new rally $5-$7
3 - At the same time... Your visa/mastercard is on the way bitches, no need to cash out into btc or have the tax man knock on your door, now you can buy Lamborghini directly with your ICN - $10+
It's hard to predict what the ATH will be during second rally. $10 is minimum and that is conservative... FOMO doesn't care about logic, and it doesn't care that ICN used to be $.20-$.40. It doesn't care that the price now is too high based on the value the platform is generating or the number of users or the dividends that you receive. FOMO does not give a fuck. It ends when there are no more buyers....Price is irrelevant. It can end at $10 or $100, no one can predict this and it depends how much new money is pumped from old economy.
Anyway... most people here will get excited and sell too early, buy back in, then sell early again etc... The smart people will HOLD and simply buy more ICN during the dumps.
1- "Iconomi.index released - Accounts open for registration '$.50-$1'
2- " Fiat deposits now accepted $1+
3- " ICN and ICNX available for trading on following major exchanges" $1-$3
4- "First dividends payout is on the way - move your ICN off exchange to receive dividend" $5 briefly then correction back to $3 once first dividend has been paid.
In March-May, price should be stable around $2-$3. It will go sideways for a couple of months, with a few dumps. A clear cup and handle formation will show on the charts. Then June/July Following announcements:
1- OFM platform released - create your own fund bitches - will pump to ATH and find resistance around $5, this will be the handle part of the cup and handle formation
2- At the same time....Big PR campaign, Forbes, International Business times, even playboy will publish about ICN, start of new rally $5-$7
3 - At the same time... Your visa/mastercard is on the way bitches, no need to cash out into btc or have the tax man knock on your door, now you can buy Lamborghini directly with your ICN - $10+
It's hard to predict what the ATH will be during second rally. $10 is minimum and that is conservative... FOMO doesn't care about logic, and it doesn't care that ICN used to be $.20-$.40. It doesn't care that the price now is too high based on the value the platform is generating or the number of users or the dividends that you receive. FOMO does not give a fuck. It ends when there are no more buyers....Price is irrelevant. It can end at $10 or $100, no one can predict this and it depends how much new money is pumped from old economy.
Anyway... most people here will get excited and sell too early, buy back in, then sell early again etc... The smart people will HOLD and simply buy more ICN during the dumps.
Very nice post
I think OFM will be announced much earlier than June. So we may get a nice mixture of FOMOs
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create your own fund bitches
I hope so! I'm curious though, why do you think it will be released much earlier? During ICO, did they say that it will be early 2017?
Post from Tim on medium:
"We would like to inform all interested fund managers that the ICONOMI Open Fund Management Platform will be ready earlier than planned."
The platform launch was delayed, true, BUT what I understand from this is that after platform is released, it will take them less time than they thought to finish the OFM.
They could also take their time for more QA, monitoring, internal testing, etc. OFM is the real deal, so they should take as much time as needed.
You know we could have a 3th pulse of FOMO (not sure in 2017) - USA investors are allowed to invest/create funds on OFM. If/When this happens it will be after OFM is operational for some time already, meaning it will have big exposure. Then we will see a real pump, USA market is a big thing.
Tim Zagar, Give us some news please, we are looking ur mouth
Enough info?
This was just posted in slack.They are almost ready to launch. Jani said on Slack that they will make the Launch announcement soon, probably this coming week.
would be nice, are there any screenshot teaser of the current version?
There will be 2 big pumps in 2017. First one is coming soon. Next couple of weeks an official announcement will read "Iconomi.index released - Accounts open for registration'. They said things will 'flow' after that. So few major announcements will be made between now and March:
1- "Iconomi.index released - Accounts open for registration '$.50-$1'
2- " Fiat deposits now accepted $1+
3- " ICN and ICNX available for trading on following major exchanges" $1-$3
4- "First dividends payout is on the way - move your ICN off exchange to receive dividend" $5 briefly then correction back to $3 once first dividend has been paid.
In March-May, price should be stable around $2-$3. It will go sideways for a couple of months, with a few dumps. A clear cup and handle formation will show on the charts. Then June/July Following announcements:
1- OFM platform released - create your own fund bitches - will pump to ATH and find resistance around $5, this will be the handle part of the cup and handle formation
2- At the same time....Big PR campaign, Forbes, International Business times, even playboy will publish about ICN, start of new rally $5-$7
3 - At the same time... Your visa/mastercard is on the way bitches, no need to cash out into btc or have the tax man knock on your door, now you can buy Lamborghini directly with your ICN - $10+
It's hard to predict what the ATH will be during second rally. $10 is minimum and that is conservative... FOMO doesn't care about logic, and it doesn't care that ICN used to be $.20-$.40. It doesn't care that the price now is too high based on the value the platform is generating or the number of users or the dividends that you receive. FOMO does not give a fuck. It ends when there are no more buyers....Price is irrelevant. It can end at $10 or $100, no one can predict this and it depends how much new money is pumped from old economy.
Anyway... most people here will get excited and sell too early, buy back in, then sell early again etc... The smart people will HOLD and simply buy more ICN during the dumps.
1- "Iconomi.index released - Accounts open for registration '$.50-$1'
2- " Fiat deposits now accepted $1+
3- " ICN and ICNX available for trading on following major exchanges" $1-$3
4- "First dividends payout is on the way - move your ICN off exchange to receive dividend" $5 briefly then correction back to $3 once first dividend has been paid.
In March-May, price should be stable around $2-$3. It will go sideways for a couple of months, with a few dumps. A clear cup and handle formation will show on the charts. Then June/July Following announcements:
1- OFM platform released - create your own fund bitches - will pump to ATH and find resistance around $5, this will be the handle part of the cup and handle formation
2- At the same time....Big PR campaign, Forbes, International Business times, even playboy will publish about ICN, start of new rally $5-$7
3 - At the same time... Your visa/mastercard is on the way bitches, no need to cash out into btc or have the tax man knock on your door, now you can buy Lamborghini directly with your ICN - $10+
It's hard to predict what the ATH will be during second rally. $10 is minimum and that is conservative... FOMO doesn't care about logic, and it doesn't care that ICN used to be $.20-$.40. It doesn't care that the price now is too high based on the value the platform is generating or the number of users or the dividends that you receive. FOMO does not give a fuck. It ends when there are no more buyers....Price is irrelevant. It can end at $10 or $100, no one can predict this and it depends how much new money is pumped from old economy.
Anyway... most people here will get excited and sell too early, buy back in, then sell early again etc... The smart people will HOLD and simply buy more ICN during the dumps.
Very nice post
I think OFM will be announced much earlier than June. So we may get a nice mixture of FOMOs
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create your own fund bitches
I hope so! I'm curious though, why do you think it will be released much earlier? During ICO, did they say that it will be early 2017?
So those who didn't invest will all be chasing the high price of ICN.
Its about to moon and the rest are still fudding to pull the price down. If you don't wanna see yourself running like this man here, invest now!
Because the FOMO will be REAL!
There will be 2 big pumps in 2017. First one is coming soon. Next couple of weeks an official announcement will read "Iconomi.index released - Accounts open for registration'. They said things will 'flow' after that. So few major announcements will be made between now and March:
1- "Iconomi.index released - Accounts open for registration '$.50-$1'
2- " Fiat deposits now accepted $1+
3- " ICN and ICNX available for trading on following major exchanges" $1-$3
4- "First dividends payout is on the way - move your ICN off exchange to receive dividend" $5 briefly then correction back to $3 once first dividend has been paid.
In March-May, price should be stable around $2-$3. It will go sideways for a couple of months, with a few dumps. A clear cup and handle formation will show on the charts. Then June/July Following announcements:
1- OFM platform released - create your own fund bitches - will pump to ATH and find resistance around $5, this will be the handle part of the cup and handle formation
2- At the same time....Big PR campaign, Forbes, International Business times, even playboy will publish about ICN, start of new rally $5-$7
3 - At the same time... Your visa/mastercard is on the way bitches, no need to cash out into btc or have the tax man knock on your door, now you can buy Lamborghini directly with your ICN - $10+
It's hard to predict what the ATH will be during second rally. $10 is minimum and that is conservative... FOMO doesn't care about logic, and it doesn't care that ICN used to be $.20-$.40. It doesn't care that the price now is too high based on the value the platform is generating or the number of users or the dividends that you receive. FOMO does not give a fuck. It ends when there are no more buyers....Price is irrelevant. It can end at $10 or $100, no one can predict this and it depends how much new money is pumped from old economy.
Anyway... most people here will get excited and sell too early, buy back in, then sell early again etc... The smart people will HOLD and simply buy more ICN during the dumps.
1- "Iconomi.index released - Accounts open for registration '$.50-$1'
2- " Fiat deposits now accepted $1+
3- " ICN and ICNX available for trading on following major exchanges" $1-$3
4- "First dividends payout is on the way - move your ICN off exchange to receive dividend" $5 briefly then correction back to $3 once first dividend has been paid.
In March-May, price should be stable around $2-$3. It will go sideways for a couple of months, with a few dumps. A clear cup and handle formation will show on the charts. Then June/July Following announcements:
1- OFM platform released - create your own fund bitches - will pump to ATH and find resistance around $5, this will be the handle part of the cup and handle formation
2- At the same time....Big PR campaign, Forbes, International Business times, even playboy will publish about ICN, start of new rally $5-$7
3 - At the same time... Your visa/mastercard is on the way bitches, no need to cash out into btc or have the tax man knock on your door, now you can buy Lamborghini directly with your ICN - $10+
It's hard to predict what the ATH will be during second rally. $10 is minimum and that is conservative... FOMO doesn't care about logic, and it doesn't care that ICN used to be $.20-$.40. It doesn't care that the price now is too high based on the value the platform is generating or the number of users or the dividends that you receive. FOMO does not give a fuck. It ends when there are no more buyers....Price is irrelevant. It can end at $10 or $100, no one can predict this and it depends how much new money is pumped from old economy.
Anyway... most people here will get excited and sell too early, buy back in, then sell early again etc... The smart people will HOLD and simply buy more ICN during the dumps.
Very nice post
I think OFM will be announced much earlier than June. So we may get a nice mixture of FOMOs
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create your own fund bitches
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