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hero member
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September 21, 2016, 06:12:37 AM
Can anybody give me an answer about signature campaign?
I was Full Member but during this week became Sr. Member. I changed my signature. What else should i do to make changes to bounty list?
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September 21, 2016, 06:10:06 AM
In case, you hold your coins, if whales dump theyr coins, u
You Just buy more when it cheap.
Fill your pockets, profit will be big in long term
hero member
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September 21, 2016, 06:04:35 AM
ICONOMI your bitcoin signature campaign is closed and all participants paid.When will your other campaign ends which I am a part of?When will we get paid tokens?
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Think or swim.
September 21, 2016, 05:56:54 AM
I'm basing it on my past experience with Asicminer, I know it's a different business, but the main selling point of buying asicminer "tokens" was also the weekly dividends.  The weekly market price of 1 "token" fluctuated so the weekly dividends would match a ~30% APR

If you're getting $1200 in dividends in first year from owning 100k tokens.  If we assume that $1200 equals 20% APR, then your 100k tokens would be worth $6000, meaning the market cap of ICN would be $6 million

Respectfully, the token price is market controlled, and that's the ONLY valuation to mkt cap.


Kudos on the pumpage hehe

true, will be interesting to see how much token price follows dividend or if it goes higher from speculation
I'll be sure to watch that now hehe

Obviously... I'm pretty pumped about ICONOMI... I haven't been this excited since the great pump of 2012
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September 21, 2016, 05:52:13 AM
I'm basing it on my past experience with Asicminer, I know it's a different business, but the main selling point of buying asicminer "tokens" was also the weekly dividends.  The weekly market price of 1 "token" fluctuated so the weekly dividends would match a ~30% APR

If you're getting $1200 in dividends in first year from owning 100k tokens.  If we assume that $1200 equals 20% APR, then your 100k tokens would be worth $6000, meaning the market cap of ICN would be $6 million

Respectfully, the token price is market controlled, and that's the ONLY valuation to mkt cap.


Kudos on the pumpage hehe

true, will be interesting to see how much token price follows dividend or if it goes higher from speculation
hero member
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Think or swim.
September 21, 2016, 05:43:04 AM
I'm basing it on my past experience with Asicminer, I know it's a different business, but the main selling point of buying asicminer "tokens" was also the weekly dividends.  The weekly market price of 1 "token" fluctuated so the weekly dividends would match a ~30% APR

If you're getting $1200 in dividends in first year from owning 100k tokens.  If we assume that $1200 equals 20% APR, then your 100k tokens would be worth $6000, meaning the market cap of ICN would be $6 million

I'm making realistic comments now, but don't worry, I will make more pumpy comments after ico closes.  That is my favorite time to pump

Respectfully, the token price is market controlled, and that's the ONLY valuation to mkt cap.


Kudos on the pumpage hehe
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September 21, 2016, 05:33:06 AM
Let's say in it's first year iconomi invests $3 million into ico's, which see an average return of 300%

That would be $6 million profit in first year.  They have stated that a ~20% performance fee on the profits will be distributed entirely to ICN token holders (as long as they still have ico money to pay expenses)

That would be $1.2 million in dividends for first year distributed to ICN token holders

Let's say crypto investors buy up ICN tokens, until a point where the dividends are equal to 20% yearly return

With these assumptions, the ICN token market cap would average $6 million

Token price would average to $0.06 or 0.0001 BTC

I will save at least half of my funds to buy on exchange, in case this is going below ico price

Check your math... 300% of 3m is 9m so 6 yea...
and 20% of 6m is 1.2m like you stated...
but that's the fee iconomi retains. ICN holders would get the other 80%, the profit... or 4.8m to split
lets say you have 100k tokens.
4.8m/100m = .048
.048 x 100k = $4800 just in dividends at 300% at whatever timeframe because % is %
could be 3 months, 2 weeks, nobody knows where it could go theres endless scenarios but we will be able to make better estimates after a few initial cycles

ICN token holders will be receiving 100% of the management fees and performance fees from the funds as dividends, as long as ico money is still paying iconomi's expenses

They have said the performance fee from iconomi.performance will be ~20% of profits (fee is not yet officially set)

So the entire ~20% performance fee from iconomi.performance will go to ICN token holders, as long as ico funds remain

20% of an estimated $6 million profit in first year would be $1.2 million

Crypto investors tend to expect a higher ROI than in old economy, so I think my estimate of dividends equaling 20% APR is reasonable

Estimated $1.2 million dividends in first year at a 20% APR would put market cap at $6 million, or roughly 10000 BTC
how are you judging mkt cap on dividends i dont see the relationship?

I'm basing it on my past experience with Asicminer, I know it's a different business, but the main selling point of buying asicminer tokens was also the weekly dividends.  The weekly market price of 1 token fluctuated so the weekly dividends would match a ~30% APR

If you're getting $1200 in dividends in first year from owning 100k tokens.  If we assume that $1200 equals 20% APR, then your 100k tokens would be worth $6000, meaning the market cap of ICN would be $6 million


I'm making realistic comments now, but don't worry, I will make more pumpy comments after ico closes.  That is my favorite time to pump
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Think or swim.
September 21, 2016, 05:32:38 AM
Okay so lets figure 1.2m /100m = .012
you have 100k tokens x .012 is $1200 dividend on 200% profit when original investment was 300m
legendary
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September 21, 2016, 05:31:54 AM
..you split the profit not the investment... You own shares in a company.
...

Man so why you show wrong data that you will spilit 4.8m profit which belongs to ICONOMI investors BUT not ICONOMI shareholders.
ICONOMI investor - person who come in and buy funds priced in BTC revenue in BTC, priced in fiat revenue in fiat... those guys are getting 4.8
ICONOMI shareholder (ICO is now) - person who will get 20% of profit -cost profit fee those guys get JUST that 1.2m $

those are 2 different types of investors while you are trying to connect them
sr. member
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September 21, 2016, 05:25:50 AM
Let's say in it's first year iconomi invests $3 million into ico's, which see an average return of 300%

That would be $6 million profit in first year.  They have stated that a ~20% performance fee on the profits will be distributed entirely to ICN token holders (as long as they still have ico money to pay expenses)

That would be $1.2 million in dividends for first year distributed to ICN token holders

Let's say crypto investors buy up ICN tokens, until a point where the dividends are equal to 20% yearly return

With these assumptions, the ICN token market cap would average $6 million

Token price would average to $0.06 or 0.0001 BTC

I will save at least half of my funds to buy on exchange, in case this is going below ico price

Check your math... 300% of 3m is 9m so 6 yea...
and 20% of 6m is 1.2m like you stated...
but that's the fee iconomi retains. ICN holders would get the other 80%, the profit... or 4.8m to split
lets say you have 100k tokens.
4.8m/100m = .048
.048 x 100k = $4800 just in dividends at 300% at whatever timeframe because % is %
could be 3 months, 2 weeks, nobody knows where it could go theres endless scenarios but we will be able to make better estimates after a few initial cycles

ICN token holders will be receiving 100% of the management fees and performance fees from the funds as dividends, as long as ico money is still paying iconomi's expenses

They have said the performance fee from iconomi.performance will be roughly ~20% of profits (fee is not yet officially set)

So the entire ~20% performance fee from iconomi.performance will go to ICN token holders, as long as ico funds remain

20% of an estimated $6 million profit in first year would be $1.2 million

Crypto investors tend to expect a higher ROI than in old economy, so I think my estimate of dividends equaling 20% APR is reasonable

Estimated $1.2 million dividends in first year at a 20% APR would put market cap at $6 million, or roughly 10000 BTC
hero member
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Think or swim.
September 21, 2016, 05:18:13 AM
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Check your math... 300% of 3m is 9m so 6 yea...
and 20% of 6m is 1.2m like you stated...
but that's the fee iconomi retains. ICN holders would get the other 80%, the profit... or 4.8m to split

SO what an group of idiots would invest 3m in conomi performance when ICONOMI holders will eat all his income in dividends Cheesy ?
That founds would make 0 cash for investor.
It goes that investor get 80% profit
ICONIMI shareholders take 20% fee from profit - costs.

If ICONOMI will get 3m$ over 10000 BTC then yes it can be like that.
you split the profit not the investment... You own shares in a company.
a 100% return is 0 profit.
200% return is 100% profit
300% return is 200% profit
this is why 9 return is 6 profit... then take the fee and you have 4.8 left, etc etc..


Correcting myself here...  the fund itself keeps the profit to split because it has shares/tokens and icn holders get the fee of 1.8 to split which is what I think now will happen.
legendary
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September 21, 2016, 05:14:48 AM
...
Check your math... 300% of 3m is 9m so 6 yea...
and 20% of 6m is 1.2m like you stated...
but that's the fee iconomi retains. ICN holders would get the other 80%, the profit... or 4.8m to split

SO what an group of idiots would invest 3m in conomi performance when ICONOMI holders will eat all his income in dividends Cheesy ?
That founds would make 0 cash for investor.
It goes that investor get 80% profit
ICONIMI shareholders take 20% fee from profit - costs.

If ICONOMI will get 3m$ over 10000 BTC then yes it can be like that.

***

In way you explain is that you will need to by ICN token to buy ICONOMI founds,
so far i undrstant that they will trade BTC ETK LIST directly not by using ICN then whey will conver that profit into ETH and share to ICONOMI shareholders.
THEY WILL NEVER BUY ICN token from market using cash from profits.
hero member
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September 21, 2016, 05:11:52 AM
There are still 8 more days for the ICO. And in the final week. You need more promotions and support from the community for this week for such a good ICO campaign.

The results of the conference in devcon 2 can also increase the growth of ICO unfortunately I have not seen any news there
I mean news  related ICONOMI
sr. member
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September 21, 2016, 04:57:55 AM
Some guys want insta profit in ICO.

They dont know how much is a profit in long term.

Waiting for a long time term.
correct lots of people don't understand the potential profit if a great project like ICONOMI. and they usually dump their coins immediately after the listening  coin in exchange...
the dumpers are usually bounty hunters.. lets see what will ICO and how ICOnomi will survive.
i think more big whales are dumpers, they need to get back some invested coin

It happens to all coins. People who can sustain and hold coins while others are dumping are the really profit making people.
legendary
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September 21, 2016, 04:55:37 AM
Some guys want insta profit in ICO.

They dont know how much is a profit in long term.

Waiting for a long time term.
correct lots of people don't understand the potential profit if a great project like ICONOMI. and they usually dump their coins immediately after the listening  coin in exchange...
the dumpers are usually bounty hunters.. lets see what will ICO and how ICOnomi will survive.
i think more big whales are dumpers, they need to get back some invested coin
hero member
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September 21, 2016, 04:47:23 AM
Some guys want insta profit in ICO.

They dont know how much is a profit in long term.

Waiting for a long time term.
correct lots of people don't understand the potential profit if a great project like ICONOMI. and they usually dump their coins immediately after the listening  coin in exchange...
the dumpers are usually bounty hunters.. lets see what will ICO and how ICOnomi will survive.
sr. member
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move that crypto
September 21, 2016, 04:39:51 AM
Let's say in it's first year iconomi invests $3 million into ico's, which see an average return of 300%

That would be $6 million profit in first year.  They have stated that a ~20% performance fee on the profits will be distributed entirely to ICN token holders (as long as they still have ico money to pay expenses)

That would be $1.2 million in dividends for first year distributed to ICN token holders

Let's say crypto investors buy up ICN tokens, until a point where the dividends are equal to 20% yearly return

With these assumptions, the ICN token market cap would average $6 million

Token price would average to $0.06 or 0.0001 BTC

I will save at least half of my funds to buy on exchange, in case this is going below ico price
sr. member
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September 21, 2016, 04:36:48 AM
I'm really looking forward to the end of the ICO and the release of the coins. In the beginning of the ICO I had my doubts but the longer I follow this project and the more I talk with the people behind it the more I like it.
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September 21, 2016, 04:27:46 AM
Some guys want insta profit in ICO.

They dont know how much is a profit in long term.

Waiting for a long time term.
sr. member
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askNFTY Team Account
September 21, 2016, 04:26:11 AM
There are still 8 more days for the ICO. And in the final week. You need more promotions and support from the community for this week for such a good ICO campaign.
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