[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform - page 1107.

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Quote from: BitBanksy on September 07, 2016, 06:21:00 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 05:43:44 AM

Quote from: ICONOMI on September 07, 2016, 05:28:27 AM

Dividend does not go down. 100m ICN tokens will receive same amount of dividends. But if funding goes higher, you receive less ICN.

This is what I was supposed to mean in the first place. Less ICN, less dividends.

More funds = less ICN = less dividends

A deja vue, the whales will rake everything again...

Don't forget that more funds=the longer it takes to burn them on development= 100% of the profits to be divided among shareholders for longer time(instead of being spent on development).
But this would benefit those who hold coins long term.

MoveCrypto

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Quote from: BitBanksy on September 07, 2016, 06:21:00 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 05:43:44 AM

Quote from: ICONOMI on September 07, 2016, 05:28:27 AM

Dividend does not go down. 100m ICN tokens will receive same amount of dividends. But if funding goes higher, you receive less ICN.

This is what I was supposed to mean in the first place. Less ICN, less dividends.

More funds = less ICN = less dividends

A deja vue, the whales will rake everything again...

sssshhhhhhh, let's all switch to slack and stop bumping this thread

I'll meet you back here on 30 sept. after funding is closed

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Quote from: TrueAnon on September 07, 2016, 08:50:30 AM

Basically was 90% of this coin buyers want to know is 2 things:

1. Will it be on polo post launch asap?
2. Will it pump so I can dump most of my coins.

The End.

You know this is 100% truth so do not deny it.

i dont know, but i think it will be at poloniex

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Basically was 90% of this coin buyers want to know is 2 things:

1. Will it be on polo post launch asap?
2. Will it pump so I can dump most of my coins.

The End.

You know this is 100% truth so do not deny it.

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Quote from: ICONOMI on September 07, 2016, 07:50:23 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:52:02 AM

Quote from: tomkat on September 07, 2016, 06:46:01 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:29:38 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:19:05 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:16:41 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:01:08 AM

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It's really nice, but one condition has to be met: there must be profits for those dividends, and nobody cannot gurantee profits forever.
I can imagine however, that ICONOMI team can start paying dividends using the ICO funds in case there're no profits for some time

I'm sorry, but I always look for a weaknesses, and the major weakness here is basically this promise Dividends will be permanent! which i guess means perpetual or everlasting right?

Hmm, I guess the real question would be "What happens when the funds show a loss?"

When there is a loss, we might still get some revenue from maintenance fees. But if there is nothing to distribute, then dividends are at zero. All scenarious are possible. The only coin that guarantees you profit is Onecoin Tongue

You as organisation wouldn't take a part of the profits? Or do you count your proffit in the cost of things?

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Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:52:02 AM

Quote from: tomkat on September 07, 2016, 06:46:01 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:29:38 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:19:05 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:16:41 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:01:08 AM

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It's really nice, but one condition has to be met: there must be profits for those dividends, and nobody cannot gurantee profits forever.
I can imagine however, that ICONOMI team can start paying dividends using the ICO funds in case there're no profits for some time

I'm sorry, but I always look for a weaknesses, and the major weakness here is basically this promise Dividends will be permanent! which i guess means perpetual or everlasting right?

Hmm, I guess the real question would be "What happens when the funds show a loss?"

When there is a loss, we might still get some revenue from maintenance fees. But if there is nothing to distribute, then dividends are at zero. All scenarious are possible. The only coin that guarantees you profit is Onecoin Tongue

ICONOMI

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Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:19:05 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:16:41 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:01:08 AM

If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 5 ICN at launch for a beginning value of 20 cents a token that rises to 25 cents a week later you make 20% profit. You now have $1.20

We are thinking this differenlty.

I do not really care about the 20% profit quick bucks, that I can do with any other project there is lol.

I plan to HODL, that's why I'm interested in the dividends.

Aah, I see ... but know this: Dividends will only be paid out while ICO funds last. When ICO funds are gone, so are ICN dividends... and they plan on using some ICO funding to help fund the "performance.fund".
I wish the dividends were 4 ever hehe

When we spend all ICO funds dividends will stay! We'll need to finance operation, but the rest of the profits will be still distributred as dividends.

Gentlemans, dividends are to stay 4ever!

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Quote from: tomkat on September 07, 2016, 06:46:01 AM

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It's really nice, but one condition has to be met: there must be profits for those dividends, and nobody cannot gurantee profits forever.
I can imagine however, that ICONOMI team can start paying dividends using the ICO funds in case there're no profits for some time

I'm sorry, but I always look for a weaknesses, and the major weakness here is basically this promise Dividends will be permanent! which i guess means perpetual or everlasting right?

YEa major flaw as all crypto have is bull/bear market on bull any idiot can make money doing it on brear (falling prices) is art.
IF ICONOMI will have good traders and be able to short makets ^^ ICOnomi will be profitable all time if not it will fall.
For me ICOMINI is like crypto ETF now crypto will be in bull till stock market collapse all are waiting for it pump BTC and cash out.

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Think or swim.

Quote from: gomados on September 07, 2016, 06:59:19 AM

People who sended only BTC at ico want to go down eth and lsk, because they will get more ico tokens.

theyre breaking it all down to fiat value for distribution so I dont think theres a difference

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Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:52:02 AM

Quote from: tomkat on September 07, 2016, 06:46:01 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:29:38 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:19:05 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:16:41 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:01:08 AM

If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 5 ICN at launch for a beginning value of 20 cents a token that rises to 25 cents a week later you make 20% profit. You now have $1.20

We are thinking this differenlty.

I do not really care about the 20% profit quick bucks, that I can do with any other project there is lol.

I plan to HODL, that's why I'm interested in the dividends.

Aah, I see ... but know this: Dividends will only be paid out while ICO funds last. When ICO funds are gone, so are ICN dividends... and they plan on using some ICO funding to help fund the "performance.fund".
I wish the dividends were 4 ever hehe

Then I have good news for you from user ICONOMI

Dividends will be permanent!

But for as long as we have money raised during ICO we'll distribute 100% of our profits as dividends to ICN holders.
When we sometime in future burn money during raised during ICO we'll finance operations from profits made by funds. The rest of the profits will be distributed to ICN token holders.

That means that all ICN token holders will be receiving dividends in 1 months / 1 year / 10 years / 100 years... ICN token will always bring u weekly dividend.

It's really nice, but one condition has to be met: there must be profits for those dividends, and nobody cannot gurantee profits forever.
I can imagine however, that ICONOMI team can start paying dividends using the ICO funds in case there're no profits for some time

I'm sorry, but I always look for a weaknesses, and the major weakness here is basically this promise Dividends will be permanent! which i guess means perpetual or everlasting right?

Hmm, I guess the real question would be "What happens when the funds show a loss?"

Yeah, you mean they will have to accept a loss? Oh, no is it possible at all that they can generate a loss?

But they can always start draining ICO funds in a hope for future profits.

gomados

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People who sended only BTC at ico want to go down eth and lsk, because they will get more ico tokens.

MrPresident

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Think or swim.

Quote from: kangertech on September 07, 2016, 06:53:17 AM

Sorry guys, maybe is a stupid question Grin

I'd like to invest in this ICO, i know they accept BTC ETH LSK
is there a difference if i invest today directly with lisk or with btc? i mean, the value of my lisk that i send to the ICO is calculated now or when the ICO is closed? for exmple, i send 1000 lsk the value now is 0.00042btc so i send 0.42btc but everything can happen and my 1000 lsk at the end of ICO could value much less (or much more Grin

)...the same with BTC sure but i think with less volatility, so any idea? Thanks a lot!

yes, the bonuses make a difference... 10% right now for 2 more days

the currency type matters yes... which one will increase the most or hodl it's value best by the end of the ico?

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Sorry guys, maybe is a stupid question Grin

I'd like to invest in this ICO, i know they accept BTC ETH LSK
is there a difference if i invest today directly with lisk or with btc? i mean, the value of my lisk that i send to the ICO is calculated now or when the ICO is closed? for exmple, i send 1000 lsk the value now is 0.00042btc so i send 0.42btc but everything can happen and my 1000 lsk at the end of ICO could value much less (or much more Grin

)...the same with BTC sure but i think with less volatility, so any idea? Thanks a lot!

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Think or swim.

Quote from: tomkat on September 07, 2016, 06:46:01 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:29:38 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:19:05 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:16:41 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:01:08 AM

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*

It's really nice, but one condition has to be met: there must be profits for those dividends, and nobody cannot gurantee profits forever.
I can imagine however, that ICONOMI team can start paying dividends using the ICO funds in case there're no profits for some time

I'm sorry, but I always look for a weaknesses, and the major weakness here is basically this promise Dividends will be permanent! which i guess means perpetual or everlasting right?

Hmm, I guess the real question would be "What happens when the funds show a loss?"

tomkat

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Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:29:38 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:19:05 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:16:41 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:01:08 AM

If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 5 ICN at launch for a beginning value of 20 cents a token that rises to 25 cents a week later you make 20% profit. You now have $1.20

We are thinking this differenlty.

I do not really care about the 20% profit quick bucks, that I can do with any other project there is lol.

I plan to HODL, that's why I'm interested in the dividends.

Aah, I see ... but know this: Dividends will only be paid out while ICO funds last. When ICO funds are gone, so are ICN dividends... and they plan on using some ICO funding to help fund the "performance.fund".
I wish the dividends were 4 ever hehe

Then I have good news for you from user ICONOMI

Dividends will be permanent!

But for as long as we have money raised during ICO we'll distribute 100% of our profits as dividends to ICN holders.
When we sometime in future burn money during raised during ICO we'll finance operations from profits made by funds. The rest of the profits will be distributed to ICN token holders.

That means that all ICN token holders will be receiving dividends in 1 months / 1 year / 10 years / 100 years... ICN token will always bring u weekly dividend.

It's really nice, but one condition has to be met: there must be profits for those dividends, and nobody cannot gurantee profits forever.
I can imagine however, that ICONOMI team can start paying dividends using the ICO funds in case there're no profits for some time

I'm sorry, but I always look for a weaknesses, and the major weakness here is basically this promise Dividends will be permanent! which i guess means perpetual or everlasting right?

MrPresident

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Think or swim.

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:29:38 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:19:05 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:16:41 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:01:08 AM

If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 5 ICN at launch for a beginning value of 20 cents a token that rises to 25 cents a week later you make 20% profit. You now have $1.20

We are thinking this differenlty.

I do not really care about the 20% profit quick bucks, that I can do with any other project there is lol.

I plan to HODL, that's why I'm interested in the dividends.

Aah, I see ... but know this: Dividends will only be paid out while ICO funds last. When ICO funds are gone, so are ICN dividends... and they plan on using some ICO funding to help fund the "performance.fund".
I wish the dividends were 4 ever hehe

Then I have good news for you from user ICONOMI

Dividends will be permanent!

But for as long as we have money raised during ICO we'll distribute 100% of our profits as dividends to ICN holders.
When we sometime in future burn money during raised during ICO we'll finance operations from profits made by funds. The rest of the profits will be distributed to ICN token holders.

That means that all ICN token holders will be receiving dividends in 1 months / 1 year / 10 years / 100 years... ICN token will always bring u weekly dividend.

adia;
AAaaaaahhhh..
"When we sometime in future burn money during raised during ICO we'll finance operations from profits made by funds."
I see said the blind man..
Thank you.. amazingly good news...

OKAY I'm with ya... more coin= more profit no matter the exchange value

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Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:19:05 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:16:41 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:01:08 AM

If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 5 ICN at launch for a beginning value of 20 cents a token that rises to 25 cents a week later you make 20% profit. You now have $1.20

We are thinking this differenlty.

I do not really care about the 20% profit quick bucks, that I can do with any other project there is lol.

I plan to HODL, that's why I'm interested in the dividends.

Aah, I see ... but know this: Dividends will only be paid out while ICO funds last. When ICO funds are gone, so are ICN dividends... and they plan on using some ICO funding to help fund the "performance.fund".
I wish the dividends were 4 ever hehe

Then I have good news for you from user ICONOMI

Dividends will be permanent!

But for as long as we have money raised during ICO we'll distribute 100% of our profits as dividends to ICN holders.
When we sometime in future burn money during raised during ICO we'll finance operations from profits made by funds. The rest of the profits will be distributed to ICN token holders.

That means that all ICN token holders will be receiving dividends in 1 months / 1 year / 10 years / 100 years... ICN token will always bring u weekly dividend.

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Quote from: BitBanksy on September 07, 2016, 06:21:00 AM

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 05:43:44 AM

Quote from: ICONOMI on September 07, 2016, 05:28:27 AM

Dividend does not go down. 100m ICN tokens will receive same amount of dividends. But if funding goes higher, you receive less ICN.

This is what I was supposed to mean in the first place. Less ICN, less dividends.

More funds = less ICN = less dividends

A deja vue, the whales will rake everything again...

Right, the simple logic behind fixed ico coins to be distributed: more funds = less coins = higher ico price. less funds = more coins = lower ico price.

For example, Waves has a 30k btc funding, their ico price is very high, about 36k sat without bonus. While smaller ico like stratis, has almost same ico supply, with 915 btc funding, the ico price is 1129 sat.

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Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 05:43:44 AM

Quote from: ICONOMI on September 07, 2016, 05:28:27 AM

Dividend does not go down. 100m ICN tokens will receive same amount of dividends. But if funding goes higher, you receive less ICN.

This is what I was supposed to mean in the first place. Less ICN, less dividends.

More funds = less ICN = less dividends

A deja vue, the whales will rake everything again...

MrPresident

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Think or swim.

Quote from: aidia on September 07, 2016, 06:16:41 AM

Quote from: MrPresident on September 07, 2016, 06:01:08 AM

If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 5 ICN at launch for a beginning value of 20 cents a token that rises to 25 cents a week later you make 20% profit. You now have $1.20

We are thinking this differenlty.

I do not really care about the 20% profit quick bucks, that I can do with any other project there is lol.

I plan to HODL, that's why I'm interested in the dividends.

Aah, I see ... but know this: Dividends will only be paid out while ICO funds last. When ICO funds are gone, so are ICN dividends... and they plan on using some ICO funding to help fund the "performance.fund".
I wish the dividends were 4 ever hehe

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