[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform - page 212.

MoveCrypto

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move that crypto

Quote from: Piston Honda on December 26, 2016, 01:29:44 PM

i REALLY do hope this does moon.

but with the hard stupid shilling here and how strong BTC still is, not much is gonna happen on the 28th so stop getting your fucking hopes up.

The market cap of all the gold in the world is $7000B and market cap of AAPL is $621B. Bitcoin could go up to market cap of $700B within the next few years.

If the ratio between BTC/ICN market caps stayed the same, then ICN market cap would be $1.3B in that case. ICN market cap could also go up at least 20x relative to BTC during the time it takes BTC to hit $700B

Talking about $100 ICN is not shilling, it's just having a realistic vision of the future of finance.

People would have laughed at Warren Buffet back in 1964 if he told them $20 was dirt cheap for a Berkshire Hathaway share that would hit $200k years later. Look who's laughing now:

thepo1m

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Quote from: Flyingbits on December 26, 2016, 01:39:34 PM

Quote from: Flyingbits on December 26, 2016, 01:23:57 AM

Quote from: derinderinderinderin on December 26, 2016, 12:36:31 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Less than 2 DAYS left to launch
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20161228T00&p0=1440&msg=ICONOMI+Platform+Launch&font=sanserif

Let's fucking go!

It looks like a big fish is ready to sell 260.000 tokens in the next few hours, has moved them to KRAKEN address:

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI?a=0x0618b4b48a5a3cd9739e2fddff332f242dc1811e

Food for thought...

He/she has already sold all of them at 13:00 UTC! LOL

PD: He/she still owns 300.000 ICN tokens at least:

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI?a=0x170c8e0ec988ff96e19ec1553b289d21b2024f6c

I think he is appling this theory, buy the rumour and sell the news. I don't see the price going up much if no big exchange add ICN in coming days. The decision of ICONOMI team to stick with Kraken baffles me

Flyingbits

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Quote from: Flyingbits on December 26, 2016, 01:23:57 AM

Quote from: derinderinderinderin on December 26, 2016, 12:36:31 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Less than 2 DAYS left to launch
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Let's fucking go!

It looks like a big fish is ready to sell 260.000 tokens in the next few hours, has moved them to KRAKEN address:

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI?a=0x0618b4b48a5a3cd9739e2fddff332f242dc1811e

Food for thought...

He/she has already sold all of them at 13:00 UTC! LOL

PD: He/she still owns at least 300.000 ICN tokens :

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI?a=0x170c8e0ec988ff96e19ec1553b289d21b2024f6c

GMob

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24h volume is going up. Last week an equal rise in volume happened, we reached 41k.

With the launch within 2 days and this 24h steady rise in volume, my prediction is that the price will rise heavily next 2 days.

Good luck to all

Piston Honda

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Juicin' crypto

i REALLY do hope this does moon.

but with the hard stupid shilling here and how strong BTC still is, not much is gonna happen on the 28th so stop getting your fucking hopes up.

LeonardoDaVinci

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Quote from: boestin on December 22, 2016, 03:46:02 AM

Quote from: LeonardoDaVinci on December 22, 2016, 02:22:10 AM

Just joined Lamborghini personalization program...

I'm having a hard time decide between Blue & Green steering wheels... Any suggestions? Undecided

Yes I know.. Cry

They don't have my color, that's sick! Angry

Gooing to mail or fill in a new form for my colour.. It's a mix of the Slovenian flag.

Lamborghini, can you adjust your colours for us??

Don't worry... They do have Purple

WoJJ78

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ICONOMI enthousiast

Quote from: andreibi on December 26, 2016, 12:53:01 PM

Quote from: MoveCrypto on December 26, 2016, 11:56:28 AM

Quote from: andreibi on December 26, 2016, 11:06:20 AM

Quote from: GMob on December 26, 2016, 10:57:38 AM

Quote from: WoJJ78 on December 26, 2016, 10:09:21 AM

Quote from: ecawyna on December 26, 2016, 09:26:47 AM

I think this will be dumped hard on the Dec 28th like the famous phrase "buy rumors, sell on news". Tongue

You'd be retard if you do that. Everybody knows the potential that Iconomi has, the current trend is up.

I think he could be right. Moneywise, there won't be much to show 28 December or the days/weeks after. There will be much to show in a few months though... but definitely not right at or after the launch.

I have written something about this - explaining why it happens most of the time.
Buy the Rumor, Sell the News — Why It is Always Relevant to All Markets

What about all the times when it was buy the rumor, then buy more on the news?

Darkcoin rise, Ethereum rise, Monero rise. These were all pumped up on the rumor, further pumped on the news, then ended up coming down a bit and settling much higher than they were originally before the rumor.

How much is Darkcoin, Ethereum and Monero now compared to their hype days? Bubbles are the by-product. You don't have to be literal about it. You'll know when the hype is over. For ICN, it could be a correction to a higher low than 15.9k sats, maybe 20k again, who knows? But definitely when a local hype is over, price goes down.

I'm just speaking about the long term. If you really care about this project you would hodl until it's atleast 3 - 5 dollars. I am aware that corrections are normal, but I thought there were more people here that really like this project, and not just dump at every 5 cent pump for a meazly 400 dollar profit. Undecided

MoveCrypto

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move that crypto

Quote from: andreibi on December 26, 2016, 12:53:01 PM

Quote from: MoveCrypto on December 26, 2016, 11:56:28 AM

Quote from: andreibi on December 26, 2016, 11:06:20 AM

Quote from: GMob on December 26, 2016, 10:57:38 AM

Quote from: WoJJ78 on December 26, 2016, 10:09:21 AM

Quote from: ecawyna on December 26, 2016, 09:26:47 AM

I think this will be dumped hard on the Dec 28th like the famous phrase "buy rumors, sell on news". Tongue

You'd be retard if you do that. Everybody knows the potential that Iconomi has, the current trend is up.

I think he could be right. Moneywise, there won't be much to show 28 December or the days/weeks after. There will be much to show in a few months though... but definitely not right at or after the launch.

I have written something about this - explaining why it happens most of the time.
Buy the Rumor, Sell the News — Why It is Always Relevant to All Markets

What about all the times when it was buy the rumor, then buy more on the news?

Darkcoin rise, Ethereum rise, Monero rise. These were all pumped up on the rumor, further pumped on the news, then ended up coming down a bit and settling much higher than they were originally before the rumor.

How much is Darkcoin, Ethereum and Monero now compared to their hype days? Bubbles are the by-product. You don't have to be literal about it. You'll know when the hype is over. For ICN, it could be a correction to a higher low than 15.9k sats, maybe 20k again, who knows? But definitely when a local hype is over, price goes down.

DRK, ETH, and XMR are still more than 10x higher than they were before their big pumps started.

I think ICN is still at the starting point, similar to when ETH hadn't proven itself and was stuck as 2x ico price for months.

bluedeep

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Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 12:49:19 PM

Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 12:28:44 PM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 12:16:47 PM

Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 12:06:12 PM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 12:02:58 PM

Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 11:56:53 AM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 11:38:59 AM

I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned before my old app i used to get acces to my account with no problem, so I re installed the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears to be invalid Sad

Check your phone time&date to be synchronized.

wow that sounds like hope for me, if it is not much to ask, can you please guide me to do it? I will really apreciate that

I mean check if your phone time is the same with your PC/internet time..

Just to let you know that I have moved my 4 test coins 😅😥👍 all good, my new phone is working, but my old phone is the one that I used to use and man what a moment I was nearly in panic 😨😨😨😨, so I will transfer the coins with my new phone and i will try to uldate the time in the old phone. Honestly I really apreciate your help.

Don't forget to save your 2FA code ( which you get initially when you set up the 2FA). If you lose your phone/device you'll not able to recovery your account.

U D Man! U most be loaded! !!!!😀 thank you so much.👍 what are your expectations for ICN in 2017?

Sincerely, between 1-3 $ or maybe more..

andreibi

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Practising Hebrew before visiting Israel

Quote from: MoveCrypto on December 26, 2016, 11:56:28 AM

Quote from: andreibi on December 26, 2016, 11:06:20 AM

Quote from: GMob on December 26, 2016, 10:57:38 AM

Quote from: WoJJ78 on December 26, 2016, 10:09:21 AM

Quote from: ecawyna on December 26, 2016, 09:26:47 AM

I think this will be dumped hard on the Dec 28th like the famous phrase "buy rumors, sell on news". Tongue

You'd be retard if you do that. Everybody knows the potential that Iconomi has, the current trend is up.

I think he could be right. Moneywise, there won't be much to show 28 December or the days/weeks after. There will be much to show in a few months though... but definitely not right at or after the launch.

I have written something about this - explaining why it happens most of the time.
Buy the Rumor, Sell the News — Why It is Always Relevant to All Markets

What about all the times when it was buy the rumor, then buy more on the news?

Darkcoin rise, Ethereum rise, Monero rise. These were all pumped up on the rumor, further pumped on the news, then ended up coming down a bit and settling much higher than they were originally before the rumor.

How much is Darkcoin, Ethereum and Monero now compared to their hype days? Bubbles are the by-product. You don't have to be literal about it. You'll know when the hype is over. For ICN, it could be a correction to a higher low than 15.9k sats, maybe 20k again, who knows? But definitely when a local hype is over, price goes down.

Flyingbits

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Quote from: derinderinderinderin on December 26, 2016, 12:46:53 PM

Quote from: Flyingbits on December 26, 2016, 12:38:19 PM

Quote from: xtyling on December 26, 2016, 04:20:33 AM

Is it realistic to say that 10 Million in fees can be generated from the platform per month. So 10,000,000/87,000,000 = 0.1149425287356322 per ICN on dividends per month ?

We divide by 4 to be per week so, 0.028735632183908 per ICN (per week) ?

Not in 2017!

ICONOMI devs have already stated this:

Quote

"we believe we can attract 200 million USD before the end of 2017"

https://medium.com/iconominet/the-decentralised-economy-needs-new-financial-instruments-iconomi-the-first-fund-management-ea505ef6f36e#.1ol858jtj

If there is 3% management fee (2% for the manager and 1% for ICONOMI), MAX REVENUES FOR ALL 2017 WOULD BE 2.000.000 USD.

Now you can make REAL numbers...

If you have 1000 ICN, you would receive 0,37 USD / WEEK in dividends

I predict a big dump when the first dividends are distributed and people receives much less than they thought...

I don't think 1% is a realistic number. For index funds, 1% may be correct. On top of that is 1% enter and 1% exit fee. Iconomi.performance will generate all ICN holders big profits as the maintenance fees for the fund will be paid from ICO money. This means that ICN holders will get profits for years without anything substracted (at least until people can invest in Iconomi.performance again.)

Look at the following link, they are giving us a big clue for the ICONOMI.INDEX: management fee 3% and entry/exit fee 0.1%. Again, I give you REAL NUMBERS.

https://medium.com/iconominet/iconomi-index-fund-and-open-fund-management-platform-outline-will-be-released-on-28-december-ff9b428dccbe#.wnzwdhfps

In this case all the 3% management fees will go to ICONOMI. In the funds not managed by ICONOMI, the 3% fee will be shared between the manager and ICONOMI, and they have already stated that the manager will receive more than ICONOMI, that is why I choose 1% to ICONOMI, 2% to manager.

I am just trying to be realistic...

LiskYork

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Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 12:28:44 PM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 12:16:47 PM

Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 12:06:12 PM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 12:02:58 PM

Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 11:56:53 AM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 11:38:59 AM

I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned before my old app i used to get acces to my account with no problem, so I re installed the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears to be invalid Sad

Check your phone time&date to be synchronized.

wow that sounds like hope for me, if it is not much to ask, can you please guide me to do it? I will really apreciate that

I mean check if your phone time is the same with your PC/internet time..

Just to let you know that I have moved my 4 test coins 😅😥👍 all good, my new phone is working, but my old phone is the one that I used to use and man what a moment I was nearly in panic 😨😨😨😨, so I will transfer the coins with my new phone and i will try to uldate the time in the old phone. Honestly I really apreciate your help.

Don't forget to save your 2FA code ( which you get initially when you set up the 2FA). If you lose your phone/device you'll not able to recovery your account.

U D Man! U most be loaded! !!!!😀 thank you so much.👍 what are your expectations for ICN in 2017?

derinderinderinderin

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Quote from: Flyingbits on December 26, 2016, 12:38:19 PM

Quote from: xtyling on December 26, 2016, 04:20:33 AM

Is it realistic to say that 10 Million in fees can be generated from the platform per month. So 10,000,000/87,000,000 = 0.1149425287356322 per ICN on dividends per month ?

We divide by 4 to be per week so, 0.028735632183908 per ICN (per week) ?

Not in 2017!

ICONOMI devs have already stated this:

Quote

"we believe we can attract 200 million USD before the end of 2017"

https://medium.com/iconominet/the-decentralised-economy-needs-new-financial-instruments-iconomi-the-first-fund-management-ea505ef6f36e#.1ol858jtj

If there is 3% management fee (2% for the manager and 1% for ICONOMI), MAX REVENUES FOR ALL 2017 WOULD BE 2.000.000 USD.

Now you can make REAL numbers...

I predict a big dump when the first dividends are distributed and people receives much less than they thought...

I don't think 1% is a realistic number. For index funds, 1% may be correct. On top of that is 1% enter and 1% exit fee. Iconomi.performance will generate all ICN holders big profits as the maintenance fees for the fund will be paid from ICO money. This means that ICN holders will get profits for years without anything substracted (at least until people can invest in Iconomi.performance again.)

bluedeep

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Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 12:33:43 PM

Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 12:28:44 PM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 12:16:47 PM

Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 12:06:12 PM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 12:02:58 PM

Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 11:56:53 AM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 11:38:59 AM

I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned before my old app i used to get acces to my account with no problem, so I re installed the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears to be invalid Sad

Check your phone time&date to be synchronized.

wow that sounds like hope for me, if it is not much to ask, can you please guide me to do it? I will really apreciate that

I mean check if your phone time is the same with your PC/internet time..

Just to let you know that I have moved my 4 test coins 😅😥👍 all good, my new phone is working, but my old phone is the one that I used to use and man what a moment I was nearly in panic 😨😨😨😨, so I will transfer the coins with my new phone and i will try to uldate the time in the old phone. Honestly I really apreciate your help.

Don't forget to save your 2FA code ( which you get initially when you set up the 2FA). If you lose your phone/device you'll not able to recovery your account.

Thanks man honestly I really apreciate what you did, send me your ICN addresses I will send you a little tip for your amazing help.

Uhh thanks for your intention !! But is not necessary Wink

Anyway I really appreciate it !!!

Flyingbits

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Quote from: xtyling on December 26, 2016, 04:20:33 AM

Is it realistic to say that 10 Million in fees can be generated from the platform per month. So 10,000,000/87,000,000 = 0.1149425287356322 per ICN on dividends per month ?

We divide by 4 to be per week so, 0.028735632183908 per ICN (per week) ?

Not in 2017!

ICONOMI devs have already stated this:

Quote

"we believe we can attract 200 million USD before the end of 2017"

https://medium.com/iconominet/the-decentralised-economy-needs-new-financial-instruments-iconomi-the-first-fund-management-ea505ef6f36e#.1ol858jtj

If there is 3% management fee (2% for the manager and 1% for ICONOMI), MAX REVENUES FOR ALL 2017 WOULD BE 2.000.000 USD.

Now you can make REAL numbers...

If you have 1000 ICN, you would receive 0,37 USD / WEEK in dividends

I predict a big dump when the first dividends are distributed and people receives much less than they thought...

LiskYork

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Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 12:28:44 PM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 12:16:47 PM

Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 12:06:12 PM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 12:02:58 PM

Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 11:56:53 AM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 11:38:59 AM

I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned before my old app i used to get acces to my account with no problem, so I re installed the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears to be invalid Sad

Check your phone time&date to be synchronized.

wow that sounds like hope for me, if it is not much to ask, can you please guide me to do it? I will really apreciate that

I mean check if your phone time is the same with your PC/internet time..

Just to let you know that I have moved my 4 test coins 😅😥👍 all good, my new phone is working, but my old phone is the one that I used to use and man what a moment I was nearly in panic 😨😨😨😨, so I will transfer the coins with my new phone and i will try to uldate the time in the old phone. Honestly I really apreciate your help.

Don't forget to save your 2FA code ( which you get initially when you set up the 2FA). If you lose your phone/device you'll not able to recovery your account.

Thanks man honestly I really apreciate what you did, send me your ICN addresses I will send you a little tip for your amazing help.

bluedeep

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Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 12:16:47 PM

Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 12:06:12 PM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 12:02:58 PM

Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 11:56:53 AM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 11:38:59 AM

I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned before my old app i used to get acces to my account with no problem, so I re installed the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears to be invalid Sad

Check your phone time&date to be synchronized.

wow that sounds like hope for me, if it is not much to ask, can you please guide me to do it? I will really apreciate that

I mean check if your phone time is the same with your PC/internet time..

Just to let you know that I have moved my 4 test coins 😅😥👍 all good, my new phone is working, but my old phone is the one that I used to use and man what a moment I was nearly in panic 😨😨😨😨, so I will transfer the coins with my new phone and i will try to uldate the time in the old phone. Honestly I really apreciate your help.

Don't forget to save your 2FA code ( which you get initially when you set up the 2FA). If you lose your phone/device you'll not able to recovery your account.

LiskYork

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Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 12:06:12 PM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 12:02:58 PM

Quote from: bluedeep on December 26, 2016, 11:56:53 AM

Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 11:38:59 AM

I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned before my old app i used to get acces to my account with no problem, so I re installed the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears to be invalid Sad

Check your phone time&date to be synchronized.

wow that sounds like hope for me, if it is not much to ask, can you please guide me to do it? I will really apreciate that

I mean check if your phone time is the same with your PC/internet time..

Just to let you know that I have moved my 4 test coins 😅😥👍 all good, my new phone is working, but my old phone is the one that I used to use and man what a moment I was nearly in panic 😨😨😨😨, so I will transfer the coins with my new phone and i will try to uldate the time in the old phone. Honestly I really apreciate your help.

dryandry

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Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 11:20:05 AM

Hi guys, I am traying to move my ICN from the ICO page to my ETH Wallet and the 2FA is not working at all, so I have installed another app and also I have inserted the cose that I get from Iconomi's ICO so Both apps match in the same 2FAcode but to move my coins is not working at all.

Anyone here is experimwnting the same problem?

Thanks guys
I have contacted Support already I am waiting very impatiently for some information about my case, what comes to my mind is because we are about to go live may be
Withdraws are not available, any ICN guy here to give me aome information about it? Thanks

there is code u must save if u lost your phone before scan qr code for 2FA
i think u can fix with that code

cyrixcer

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Quote from: LiskYork on December 26, 2016, 11:38:59 AM

I get the email confirmation but my 2FA code is not valid but is 100% weird because as i mentioned before my old app i used to get acces to my account with no problem, so I re installed the code in a new app ( I have kept the old app with the 2fa that used to work) so both apps match but the 2fa code appears to be invalid Sad

Old code still not ok? Did you backup the secret key? If you didn't and you may need to resync the time clock, it is in settings.

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