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Btc pump is over. Now icn rising again!

People moving back to icn! Great
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Considering that ICONOMI team have never made any claims on what ICN price would be, where it might be listed, or made any promises which may insinuate that people may put in 1 dollar and collect more than 40% profit or even any profit at all by reselling their tokens 72 hours following launch, Whoever keeps saying things like "we've all been duped" or "it's a scam" or such FUD, is most likely one of 3 types of people -IMHO- :

1. You are and underage person with little money and big Lambo dreams (i.e. unrealistic expectations with no grasp of how the real world works), and as such, you are not to blame in any way, though we respectfully ask you to attempt at gaining more information, leveling your expectations and not basing your expectations on Lambo pics posted by people who are out there to manipulate you

2. You are within the legal age of being prosecuted for such claims, yet given your location or sense of security gained by sitting in your bedroom behind a keyboard typing away, you have decided to make decisions -based purely on feelings- and blaming others for your decisions. To you we say, this is not a forum for lamenting on your emotional decisions, be it your self destructive love for chocolate, bad relationship decisions, your decision to buy that awesomely modified fast Prius or how you took out money which you actually need to pay bills and put it in a very volatile investment vehicle with hopes of becoming a millionaire within 72 hours

3. You are a troll or FUDDer hoping to drive the price down, bank on the first two guys' lack of information and poor decision making


That's exactly  what i'm trying to say,, but he put it in a very nice way.. what ICONOMI team did is.. try to eliminate all whores, kids, pump and dump dreamers,, and leave all the space to real investors
I think they are entitled to benefit for the performance of those who have given their best to ICONOMI, now all in the ICN team decisions as where they appreciate the people who have given their best to ICONOMI until now ..
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I don't know about you guys, but I Love my big bag of ICN now Grin Grin and fuck those trolls Tongue

I hate my bag. Too small Sad but better than nothing haha

+15% to my portfolio
thank you all weak hands
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Considering that ICONOMI team have never made any claims on what ICN price would be, where it might be listed, or made any promises which may insinuate that people may put in 1 dollar and collect more than 40% profit or even any profit at all by reselling their tokens 72 hours following launch, Whoever keeps saying things like "we've all been duped" or "it's a scam" or such FUD, is most likely one of 3 types of people -IMHO- :

1. You are and underage person with little money and big Lambo dreams (i.e. unrealistic expectations with no grasp of how the real world works), and as such, you are not to blame in any way, though we respectfully ask you to attempt at gaining more information, leveling your expectations and not basing your expectations on Lambo pics posted by people who are out there to manipulate you

2. You are within the legal age of being prosecuted for such claims, yet given your location or sense of security gained by sitting in your bedroom behind a keyboard typing away, you have decided to make decisions -based purely on feelings- and blaming others for your decisions. To you we say, this is not a forum for lamenting on your emotional decisions, be it your self destructive love for chocolate, bad relationship decisions, your decision to buy that awesomely modified fast Prius or how you took out money which you actually need to pay bills and put it in a very volatile investment vehicle with hopes of becoming a millionaire within 72 hours

3. You are a troll or FUDDer hoping to drive the price down, bank on the first two guys' lack of information and poor decision making


That's exactly  what i'm trying to say,, but he put it in a very nice way.. what ICONOMI team did is.. try to eliminate all whores, kids, pump and dump dreamers,, and leave all the space to real investors
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I don't know about you guys, but I Love my big bag of ICN now Grin Grin and fuck those trolls Tongue

I hate my bag. Too small Sad but better than nothing haha
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I don't know about you guys, but I Love my big bag of ICN now Grin Grin and fuck those trolls Tongue
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ICN tomorrow ...... poloniex ICN  Wink Wink ;)hop ....

Polo probably wants nothing to do with ICN right now  Embarrassed
Yes. it is impossible for me refer to ICN exclude sites trade in polo and bittrex, perhaps many sites two trading is good for them and other investors and hunter bounty that already provide advances to ICONOMI, so we'll see how ICONOMI reciprocation for hunters bounty ICONOMI already introduced to the public at large, so they could all take to advantage in their work during this time to ICONOMI .. Smiley
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It's not like you will be able to redeem your ICN tokens for actual shares of Iconomi GmbH which will hold/spend the ico funds.  Therefore, ICN tokens are not representing shares of a company.
sorry, you need to re-read the whitepaper
Iconomi is not GambH, and every token is a share of iconomi.

Keep dreaming, polo and bittrex won't add icn because icn is a share, they don't add a share, it is voilating the US laws
ALL Americans should read this
I like how suddenly peeps become legal experts on the SEC and CFTC without doing any research.
I just happen to have some knowledge on this subject because my family has been in the Banking and Finance industry since the 1800's and I will share some of that knowledge with you now.
Erik Vorhees got fined for selling unregistered securities because he was an American running SatoshiDice gambling within US Borders, and online gambling is what is illegal here, as well as selling un-registered securities for an illegal business residing also within US borders.

As an American, we are allowed to move our assets nearly anywhere, and invest in nearly anything.
A foreign mutual fund or security is considered a Passive Foreign Investment Company (PFIC), or (AFIC Active).
If you are a U.S. citizen and investing your savings through a non-U.S. financial institution, you need to understand FIC rules. The laws of diversification are universal.  Virtually all foreign financial assets that are not being held in a domestic (U.S.) financial institution are subject to numerous reporting requirements. ICN, being fully transparent, and the shares being housed on an open public ledger blockchain fits into that requirement like a glove. Granted, Americans with ownership stakes in foreign entities have complex IRS reporting requirements, and do not qualify for tax-deferral, and cannot be insured by a US insurance entity. If Iconomi were to register with the SEC and list on NYSE, nothing would change there because at the end of the day, they are still an FIC.
With that said, there are no laws written yet that would obstruct Iconomi from collecting US investors, other than a higher tax bracket and no insurance, because by every aspect, they are most certainly a Foreign Investment Company.
I hope that helps clear things up.

The whitepaper could have had better wording about the legal setup of Iconomi.

https://medium.com/iconominet/legal-part-1-42fa72e1f157#.s3uovogif

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Since, as we have concluded, there is no viable option for ICONOMI to mirror its shareholding structure (based on ICN ownership) directly, it is best that the assets of ICONOMI gain legal personality on their own, while true ownership is managed internally.
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Our team is already hard at work researching several options for incorporation in different jurisdictions across the globe. I am happy to say that at the moment of my writing, we are strongly favouring Switzerland(4), Liechtenstein, Luxemburg and the Netherlands

The lawyer is saying they are going to use the ico money to setup a GmbH type of company, like Ethereum did.  ICN token holders are not going to have any legal ownership of Iconomi GmbH shares or rights to the assets it controls.

That's why I say ICN tokens are not shares of a company.  Just like how Ethereum ico participants did not get shares of Ethereum Foundation in exchange for their donations.


Someone made a Bitbet about whether ICN will be listed on Bittrex or Poloniex, any takers?
https://bitbet.us/bet/1329/iconomi-listed-on-bittrex-or-poloniex-by-february/
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ICN tomorrow ...... poloniex ICN  Wink Wink ;)hop ....

Polo probably wants nothing to do with ICN right now  Embarrassed
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ICN price will up very soon on kraKEN.. people are now buying ICN



Rally is coming.  Shocked

Thats great.. I believe ICN will be Up again to the moon  Grin

how on earth do you read those stats on kraken. it's a pain in the ass Cheesy
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Any one knows the ICN/ETH price of the ico?

Thanks!
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ICN price will up very soon on kraKEN.. people are now buying ICN



Rally is coming.  Shocked

Thats great.. I believe ICN will be Up again to the moon  Grin
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nice buy order
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I think bitcointalk is under constant DDOS attack. Maybe ethereum network too which affects ICN. Maybe even ICONOMI is under DDOS attacks but I doubt.
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ICN tomorrow ...... poloniex ICN  Wink Wink ;)hop ....

won´t happen until the funds are online I think
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ICN price will up very soon on kraKEN.. people are now buying ICN



Rally is coming.  Shocked
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Think or swim.
All children here must understand that deciding factors (people who make and take decisions) do not want ICN to be listed and dumped anywhere else except KRAKEN. And it is the most clever decision... as all other made by Iconomi team till now. Strong dev can put coin on exchange. And can prevent a coin to be listed.
 
Meanwhile - some news provided by Jaka Mele:
ICONOMI Cryptocurrencies Index (ICNX) — 27 October 2016 triggered rebalancing

https://medium.com/iconominet/iconomi-cryptocurrencies-index-icnx-27-october-2016-triggered-rebalancing-fa561d5ba298#.r5wmboqyw
While I would love to agree, only the exchange devs can add a token to the exchange.
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Hello all!!!

I am new here and need a bit of help.


My new Ethereum Wallet in some way or the other doesnt seem to want to send some ICN to Kraken to this adres:

0xf1d98aa89f257a52b46e8273539a300eef2fc593

Why would that be?




Are you trying to send 100% of wallet to Kraken? Some ETH is needed for xfer costs.


I have only ICN in the Wallet. Can that be the problem then?

YES.

YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME ETH IN THAT WALLET TOO CAUSE YOU NEED TO USE SOME ETH TO PAY FOR YOUR TRANSFER

NOW GO GET SOME ETH AND TRY AGAIN.




AHA sorry, didnt know i will do that then THANKS!!!!

You can hold Iconomi in wallet for devident Smiley

I will!! The bulk of it is in Iconomi still. Just trying to get the hang of it...............

why do i have to send/buy ether???  i simply want to transfer my icn from the icn-ico page to kraken. i generated a new icn address at kraken, but my icn-token still did not arrived there. why?? it is just a simple deposit/withdraw?!?!? how can i send icn from there ico-page to an exhange without using ether?


Yes That is what i did later. Now I tried to send some more from iconomi to kraken but there seems to be something wrong. 5 hours and it says still sending. hmhm

you need to tell ICONOMI to buy more ETH.

they probably ran out..... Grin

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Didnt thnk of that.......

If you send from the ICO dashboard, i think you won't be needing ETH for gas. but was there a blog post that the team had actually approved anyone to send their ICN form the dashboard yet?  Never have i read them said anything about it.

If you had set to send your ICN to your ETH account two weeks ago then i guess you can sent it to Kraken.

i did send out 1 icn for test and it worked totally fine

Yesterday it worked perfectly. Today I am waiting 6 hours already to get them.
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There are already ICN´s listed on the sell-side in the 4-10$ range Cheesy Just a matter of time till the prise rises in that area

So exited what prices the tokens will reach when it really hits the bigger exchanges

Edit: What is wrong with bitcointalk.org? Always down today
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ICN price will up very soon on kraKEN.. people are now buying ICN

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