[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform - page 740.

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Quote from: boestin on October 19, 2016, 11:23:14 AM

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Quote from: Frosxh on October 19, 2016, 10:18:16 AM

So there is another attack, does this mean there will be more delays for the launch?

doubt the new attack is has as much impact as the first. hope there will be no further delay

I hope too for no more further delays. Iconomi team should give us an update about this 2nd hf thing if its possible

True. Also Iconomi, what if ultimately Ethereum fails. What is the backup scenario?

they only really need a chain that is capable of paying out dividends. there are a lot

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Quote from: Daparski on October 19, 2016, 12:43:35 PM

Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 12:33:15 PM

Quote from: MrPresident on October 19, 2016, 12:25:53 PM

Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 10:16:07 AM

Quote from: JamesSany on October 19, 2016, 10:13:20 AM

So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

Is it secure? Anyone can send any tx to the escrow. Person need PROVE the ownership of the sending address.

That offer has ended.

Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 11:02:28 AM

Move ICONOMI to Lisk, why not?

As much as I would LOVE that, lisk simply isn't ready. We could "make it happen", but it would violate our roadmap. Lisk is meeting with Iconomi actually right now sharing DDoS setups... who knows, could change.

Quote from: boestin on October 19, 2016, 11:23:14 AM

True. Also Iconomi, what if ultimately Ethereum fails. What is the backup scenario?

LSK, NXT, Counterparty...
Counterparty is stable and an excellent option.

Quote from: enhu on October 19, 2016, 12:14:06 PM

WAVES i think would be much better. This time let get this fix for the release is very much awaited by tons of us excited to see ICN on the exchange and what it can offer in the future. We'd like to see it live.

Waves? No! If that were to happen I would dump 100% at launch. Many others would do the same.

We have yet to get an update guys... the test contract may have deployed without issue; we just need wait for an official update.
ANYTHING ELSE IS PURE SPECULATION or FUD at this point.

Why Waves isn't good?
Can Lisk be better than Counterparty?

We still need to give ether network a chance.
Regarding other platforms - my main concerns are:
1. Iconomi would be the first major project deployment. Not good idea when it comes down to managed funds platform.
2. Liquidity. If you look at the trading volume of all other alternatives, it can be a major problem for high volume weekly transactions.

Bitcoin would be the best option, but it is expensive.
So it looks like we stay with ether for now.

Bitcoin?

I've never hear about Bitcoin as platform for DAPPs/custom asset tokens.

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Quote from: MrPresident on October 19, 2016, 12:42:29 PM

Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 12:33:15 PM

Why Waves isn't good?
Can Lisk be better than Counterparty?

Mom told me not to talk bad about folks... (Waves) Tongue

CAN Lisk be better than Counterparty? Sure, sometime in the future; but as of RIGHT NOW... Lisk is NOT READY.
I know because I run a dozen Lisk servers, am an alpha tester, and I asked Oliver, Max, and Isabella about it.
Isabella did some testing in behalf of ICN on Devnet. It is possible if a private network is created between Iconomi and exchanges, but some updates would need deployed to the main network, and would need tested on both devnet and testnet first.

or.... Counterparty is stable and ready.

Don't you think that counterparty low trading volume and low supply makes it a no-go? I think low supply is why it is not listed in ICNX

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Quote from: samuraijin on October 19, 2016, 12:41:24 PM

https://etherscan.io/address/0x384e762dAd922B22a0d06f4D1229582473D2DEe6#code

https://etherscan.io/contractsVerified

IconomiTokenTest

thanks

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Prob ICONOMI team still looking at this other option.

Wait any Ann.

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Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 12:33:15 PM

Quote from: MrPresident on October 19, 2016, 12:25:53 PM

Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 10:16:07 AM

Quote from: JamesSany on October 19, 2016, 10:13:20 AM

So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

Is it secure? Anyone can send any tx to the escrow. Person need PROVE the ownership of the sending address.

That offer has ended.

Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 11:02:28 AM

Move ICONOMI to Lisk, why not?

As much as I would LOVE that, lisk simply isn't ready. We could "make it happen", but it would violate our roadmap. Lisk is meeting with Iconomi actually right now sharing DDoS setups... who knows, could change.

Quote from: boestin on October 19, 2016, 11:23:14 AM

True. Also Iconomi, what if ultimately Ethereum fails. What is the backup scenario?

LSK, NXT, Counterparty...
Counterparty is stable and an excellent option.

Quote from: enhu on October 19, 2016, 12:14:06 PM

WAVES i think would be much better. This time let get this fix for the release is very much awaited by tons of us excited to see ICN on the exchange and what it can offer in the future. We'd like to see it live.

Waves? No! If that were to happen I would dump 100% at launch. Many others would do the same.

We have yet to get an update guys... the test contract may have deployed without issue; we just need wait for an official update.
ANYTHING ELSE IS PURE SPECULATION or FUD at this point.

Why Waves isn't good?
Can Lisk be better than Counterparty?

We still need to give ether network a chance.
Regarding other platforms - my main concerns are:
1. Iconomi would be the first major project deployment. Not good idea when it comes down to managed funds platform.
2. Liquidity. If you look at the trading volume of all other alternatives, it can be a major problem for high volume weekly transactions.

Bitcoin would be the best option, but it is expensive.
So it looks like we stay with ether for now.

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Think or swim.

Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 12:33:15 PM

Why Waves isn't good?
Can Lisk be better than Counterparty?

Mom told me not to talk bad about folks... (Waves) Tongue

CAN Lisk be better than Counterparty? Sure, sometime in the future; but as of RIGHT NOW... Lisk is NOT READY.
I know because I run a dozen Lisk servers, am an alpha tester, and I asked Oliver, Max, and Isabella about it.
Isabella did some testing in behalf of ICN on Devnet. It is possible if a private network is created between Iconomi and exchanges, but some updates would need deployed to the main network, and would need tested on both devnet and testnet first.

or.... Counterparty is stable and ready.

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https://etherscan.io/address/0x384e762dAd922B22a0d06f4D1229582473D2DEe6#code

https://etherscan.io/contractsVerified

IconomiTokenTest

Symbol : t-ICN

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Quote from: MrPresident on October 19, 2016, 12:25:53 PM

Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 10:16:07 AM

Quote from: JamesSany on October 19, 2016, 10:13:20 AM

So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

Is it secure? Anyone can send any tx to the escrow. Person need PROVE the ownership of the sending address.

That offer has ended.

Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 11:02:28 AM

Move ICONOMI to Lisk, why not?

As much as I would LOVE that, lisk simply isn't ready. We could "make it happen", but it would violate our roadmap. Lisk is meeting with Iconomi actually right now sharing DDoS setups... who knows, could change.

Quote from: boestin on October 19, 2016, 11:23:14 AM

True. Also Iconomi, what if ultimately Ethereum fails. What is the backup scenario?

LSK, NXT, Counterparty...
Counterparty is stable and an excellent option.

Quote from: enhu on October 19, 2016, 12:14:06 PM

WAVES i think would be much better. This time let get this fix for the release is very much awaited by tons of us excited to see ICN on the exchange and what it can offer in the future. We'd like to see it live.

Waves? No! If that were to happen I would dump 100% at launch. Many others would do the same.

We have yet to get an update guys... the test contract may have deployed without issue; we just need wait for an official update.
ANYTHING ELSE IS PURE SPECULATION or FUD at this point.

Why Waves isn't good?
Can Lisk be better than Counterparty?

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Think or swim.

Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 10:16:07 AM

Quote from: JamesSany on October 19, 2016, 10:13:20 AM

So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

Is it secure? Anyone can send any tx to the escrow. Person need PROVE the ownership of the sending address.

That offer has ended.

Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 11:02:28 AM

Move ICONOMI to Lisk, why not?

As much as I would LOVE that, Lisk simply isn't ready. We could "make it happen", but it would violate our roadmap. Lisk is meeting with Iconomi actually right now sharing DDoS setups... who knows, could change.

Quote from: boestin on October 19, 2016, 11:23:14 AM

True. Also Iconomi, what if ultimately Ethereum fails. What is the backup scenario?

LSK, NXT, Counterparty...
Counterparty is stable and an excellent option.

Quote from: enhu on October 19, 2016, 12:14:06 PM

WAVES i think would be much better. This time let get this fix for the release is very much awaited by tons of us excited to see ICN on the exchange and what it can offer in the future. We'd like to see it live.

Waves? No! If that were to happen I would dump 100% at launch. Many others would do the same.

We have yet to get an update guys... the test contract may have deployed without issue; we just need wait for an official update.
ANYTHING ELSE IS PURE SPECULATION or FUD at this point.

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Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 12:16:12 PM

Quote from: enhu on October 19, 2016, 12:14:06 PM

WAVES i think would be much better. This time let get this fix for the release is very much awaited by tons of us excited to see ICN on the exchange and what it can offer in the future. We'd like to see it live.

Waves is so good like a text missing commas?

maybe also without letters Wink

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Quote from: enhu on October 19, 2016, 12:14:06 PM

WAVES i think would be much better. This time let get this fix for the release is very much awaited by tons of us excited to see ICN on the exchange and what it can offer in the future. We'd like to see it live.

Waves is so good like a text missing commas?

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WAVES i think would be much better. This time let get this fix for the release is very much awaited by tons of us excited to see ICN on the exchange and what it can offer in the future. We'd like to see it live.

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Quote from: xtyling on October 19, 2016, 12:05:01 PM

Move ICN to Synereo ?

Synereo, Waves, Lisk or NXT?

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Move ICN to Synereo ?

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Isn't there enough GAS on Ethereum now to do ICN distribution?

Isn't the GAS LIMIT above 3,000,000 now? I thought they just need something like 800,000 GAS
https://ethstats.net/

What's the hold up? Can someone please explain?

Google CET

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Isn't there enough GAS on Ethereum now to do ICN distribution?

What's the hold up?

I think its the time zones aren't they CET. Plus I just sent plenty of coins through the network minutes ago.

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If Iconomi would to move to Lisk you can bet that Lisk wouldn't have a $20M marketcap but more like $200M-$500M and the daily trading volume would also be in the millions...

Quote from: XbladeX on October 19, 2016, 11:15:29 AM

Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 11:09:33 AM

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I've not understood. Why Lisk isn't good for ICONOMI?

Imagine you want as ICONOMI buy Lisk for 200 000$ for dividends then you rise price +10% -lisk volume is about 250k$
Then when you sell Lisk you dump price -10%... In worst case scenario you lose ~10-15% by conversion of assets.

Now ETH has 6m$ Volume when you buy/sell 200 000$ eth for dividends you not bounce price even.
You can sell buy ETH and have 1%-2% loss

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Quote from: bones on October 19, 2016, 11:01:56 AM

i see no timestamp on that comment you claim was made before the first fork. proof ?
if it was anticipated why wasnt it fixed in the first fork when the whole point of it was to adjust the price of underpriced opcodes?

why so angry?

I have very little patience for ignorance. Apologies if I'm hurting your feelings.

If you hover over the "1 day ago" on Vitalik's comment a tooltip pops up telling you the timestamp in your local timezone. Compare to that the creation date of the EXP opcode attack contract here:

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x4ac5ec2d69b309e28c7174efa56db6fa9e2fc4bab335082767b6a4075bc9f334

Have anymore misleading FUD you'd like to spread?

why would you assume ive hurt feelings, your no one to me. idc
difdnt answer my other questions now did you...

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Hi guys, is there an official link with clear statement about the timestamp of the road map of distribution? I didn`t found any on blog, FB, Twitter or here.
BTW, it is good that ETH will add ICN native.

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