[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform - page 741.

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Quote from: Frosxh on October 19, 2016, 11:06:35 AM

Quote from: favdesu on October 19, 2016, 10:33:10 AM

Quote from: Frosxh on October 19, 2016, 10:18:16 AM

So there is another attack, does this mean there will be more delays for the launch?

doubt the new attack is has as much impact as the first. hope there will be no further delay

I hope too for no more further delays. Iconomi team should give us an update about this 2nd hf thing if its possible

True. Also Iconomi, what if ultimately Ethereum fails. What is the backup scenario?

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Dont matter, icn will gain the market..

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Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 11:09:33 AM

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I've not understood. Why Lisk isn't good for ICONOMI?

Imagine you want as ICONOMI buy Lisk for 200 000$ for dividends then you rise price +10% -lisk volume is about 250k$
Then when you sell Lisk you dump price -10%... In worst case scenario you lose ~10-15% by conversion of assets.

Now ETH has 6m$ Volume when you buy/sell 200 000$ eth for dividends you not bounce price even.
You can sell buy ETH and have 1%-2% loss

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Quote from: XbladeX on October 19, 2016, 11:03:44 AM

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Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 11:02:28 AM

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Move ICONOMI to Lisk, why not?

Trading volume once you get dividend you sell with no big spread.
If ETH price will keep rising then moving to other blockchain will be good to cut costs.
Today ETH is 6x cheaper than BTC solutions.

I've not understood. Why Lisk isn't good for ICONOMI?

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Quote from: Frosxh on October 19, 2016, 11:06:35 AM

Quote from: favdesu on October 19, 2016, 10:33:10 AM

Quote from: Frosxh on October 19, 2016, 10:18:16 AM

So there is another attack, does this mean there will be more delays for the launch?

doubt the new attack is has as much impact as the first. hope there will be no further delay

I hope too for no more further delays. Iconomi team should give us an update about this 2nd hf thing if its possible

We will see how that second attack will affect ETH.
If they will be able to start test contract then all will be ok.

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Quote from: favdesu on October 19, 2016, 10:33:10 AM

Quote from: Frosxh on October 19, 2016, 10:18:16 AM

So there is another attack, does this mean there will be more delays for the launch?

doubt the new attack is has as much impact as the first. hope there will be no further delay

I hope too for no more further delays. Iconomi team should give us an update about this 2nd hf thing if its possible

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Quote from: favdesu on October 19, 2016, 10:53:05 AM

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sure, how do you expect a complicated chain like ethereum to evolve/move on if they do not tweak the chain? it's not surprising

personally i was hoping that 1 billion coin will be more polished and you can start business like ICONOMI without any problems.
In 3 years we will see which platform will be better Eth,Lisk,Waves or maybe something that we don't know now.
If ETH will keep failing and forking then probably will lose 1st mover advantage.

Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 11:02:28 AM

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Move ICONOMI to Lisk, why not?

Trading volume once you get dividend you sell with no big spread.
If ETH price will keep rising then moving to other blockchain will be good to cut costs.
Today ETH is 6x cheaper than BTC solutions.

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Quote from: Daparski on October 19, 2016, 10:59:11 AM

Quote from: favdesu on October 19, 2016, 10:53:05 AM

Quote from: rapazev on October 19, 2016, 10:43:46 AM

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Quote from: p4xil on October 19, 2016, 08:21:41 AM

New ETH attacks happening Undecided

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/589l6b/lol_i_think_its_another_attack_contract_burns/

It was anticipated. Fix set for 2nd fork (as planned):

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/580h7p/faq_upcoming_ethereum_hard_fork_ethereum_blog/d8wrcx7

yep, and as planned, next week will we see the 3th fork, and than the 4th, and than .... all planned.

sure, how do you expect a complicated chain like ethereum to evolve/move on if they do not tweak the chain? it's not surprising

to me it looks like the attacker is smarter than all of them. He had identified few major flows in the protocol and decides when to start DDoSing the network (devcon2)
And ether devs are well funded. To me it looks like poor management before anything else

Move ICONOMI to Lisk, why not?

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What's weird is that link, you know, the one linking to the comment posted by Vitalik Buterin before the attack began (hence: "anticipated")? Yeah. The one where he says "an increase in the gas cost of the EXP opcode is likely in HF round 2" (hence: "planned"). Right, that one. Yeah, that contradicts everything you're saying.

The 2nd fork hasn't happened yet. Plans can change up until the moment the 2nd HF actually happens.

Here's an example maybe you can wrap your head around:

On Monday you make plans to meet a friend at the pub on Friday. On Tuesday you tell your friend, "hey, I'm inviting someone to come to the pub with us on Friday." Should your friend throw a temper tantrum and claim it no longer constitutes a plan because you decided to invite someone?

The point is, this whiny FUD has no point other than to be whiny FUD. Does it? Of course not.

#shittyreadingcomprehension
#quityourFUD

i see no timestamp on that comment you claim was made before the first fork. proof ?
if it was anticipated why wasnt it fixed in the first fork when the whole point of it was to adjust the price of underpriced opcodes?

why so angry?

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Quote from: favdesu on October 19, 2016, 10:53:05 AM

Quote from: rapazev on October 19, 2016, 10:43:46 AM

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Quote from: p4xil on October 19, 2016, 08:21:41 AM

New ETH attacks happening Undecided

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/589l6b/lol_i_think_its_another_attack_contract_burns/

It was anticipated. Fix set for 2nd fork (as planned):

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/580h7p/faq_upcoming_ethereum_hard_fork_ethereum_blog/d8wrcx7

yep, and as planned, next week will we see the 3th fork, and than the 4th, and than .... all planned.

sure, how do you expect a complicated chain like ethereum to evolve/move on if they do not tweak the chain? it's not surprising

to me it looks like the attacker is smarter than all of them. He had identified few major flows in the protocol and decides when to start DDoSing the network (devcon2)
And ether devs are well funded. To me it looks like poor management before anything else

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Quote from: drnash85 on October 19, 2016, 10:19:09 AM

Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 10:16:07 AM

Quote from: JamesSany on October 19, 2016, 10:13:20 AM

So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

Is it secure? Anyone can send any tx to the escrow. Person need PROVE the ownership of the sending address.

How does one know the hash if they do not have the address?? So Proof of name to tx is not needed.

If he knows a unique escrow address, he can track the transactions.

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Quote from: rapazev on October 19, 2016, 10:43:46 AM

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Quote from: p4xil on October 19, 2016, 08:21:41 AM

New ETH attacks happening Undecided

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/589l6b/lol_i_think_its_another_attack_contract_burns/

It was anticipated. Fix set for 2nd fork (as planned):

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/580h7p/faq_upcoming_ethereum_hard_fork_ethereum_blog/d8wrcx7

yep, and as planned, next week will we see the 3th fork, and than the 4th, and than .... all planned.

sure, how do you expect a complicated chain like ethereum to evolve/move on if they do not tweak the chain? it's not surprising

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Quote from: p4xil on October 19, 2016, 08:21:41 AM

New ETH attacks happening Undecided

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/589l6b/lol_i_think_its_another_attack_contract_burns/

It was anticipated. Fix set for 2nd fork (as planned):

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/580h7p/faq_upcoming_ethereum_hard_fork_ethereum_blog/d8wrcx7

yep, and as planned, next week will we see the 3th fork, and than the 4th, and than .... all planned.

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Quote from: Frosxh on October 19, 2016, 10:18:16 AM

So there is another attack, does this mean there will be more delays for the launch?

doubt the new attack is has as much impact as the first. hope there will be no further delay

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Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 10:16:07 AM

Quote from: JamesSany on October 19, 2016, 10:13:20 AM

So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

Is it secure? Anyone can send any tx to the escrow. Person need PROVE the ownership of the sending address.

Not easy bro.there was an email conversation stored in escrows inbox.you should ask refund from the same email.

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Quote from: DaniellPlasmmer on October 19, 2016, 10:16:07 AM

Quote from: JamesSany on October 19, 2016, 10:13:20 AM

So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

Is it secure? Anyone can send any tx to the escrow. Person need PROVE the ownership of the sending address.

How does one know the hash if they do not have the address?? So Proof of name to tx is not needed.

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So there is another attack, does this mean there will be more delays for the launch?

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Quote from: JamesSany on October 19, 2016, 10:13:20 AM

So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

Is it secure? Anyone can send any tx to the escrow. Person need PROVE the ownership of the sending address.

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So finally there is no account swap possible as replied from Jani.people can ask refund who sent BTC to escrow,must provide tx hash.

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Quote from: p4xil on October 19, 2016, 09:46:21 AM

Quote from: bones on October 19, 2016, 09:30:46 AM

people spreading disinformation doesnt matter ?
glad i dont live in your world

There was no disinformation.

Read:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/589l6b/lol_i_think_its_another_attack_contract_burns/d8ymgqd

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Quote from: p4xil on October 19, 2016, 08:21:41 AM

New ETH attacks happening Undecided

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/589l6b/lol_i_think_its_another_attack_contract_burns/

It was anticipated. Fix set for 2nd fork (as planned):

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/580h7p/faq_upcoming_ethereum_hard_fork_ethereum_blog/d8wrcx7

"It was anticipated. Fix set for 2nd fork (as planned):"

that wasnt the plan for the 2nd fork - misinformation.....

https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/10/18/faq-upcoming-ethereum-hard-fork/

"second hard fork is expected to address a number of less urgent matters such as removing empty accounts which the attacker used to flood the Ethereum network, and which caused the size of the blockchain to inflate."

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