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legendary
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October 13, 2016, 05:05:34 AM
...Regardless of profit or not.
The pf and index funds all carry a 20%apr fee which is dividend for ICN and admin

 INDEX is CTF - automatically bot-traded fund its fee will be ~2% year

Performance is CMF - trader handed fund 20% probably from profit not from all capital in but terms will be showed
every fund have their own.
copper member
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🖤😏
October 13, 2016, 05:01:51 AM
When can people understand? we don't give a freak about ETH this and ETH that because we didn't invest on the freaking ETH.

People has no interest in knowing gas or fart or whatever we just want our freaking profit + initial investments.

Let us grab our cash and we promise not to  look back at your areas of expertise s*it and technicalities with difficulties in your freaking stupid network of ETH, take a look at TPG for instance, such an accessible coin millions of it can be in your wallet in matter of seconds Smiley

Please guys stop fu**ing around people need to pay bills and buy food.

Nearly $11 million USD has a lot of daily interest, are you doing business like gambling or trading with our money and profiting few thousands bucks each day you are stalling to launch?

I could have earn 50% on my money I handed over to you more than a month ago, am I going to earn any profit when you launch?


Who is going to answer and be held responsible for my questions?
newbie
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October 13, 2016, 04:56:03 AM
In 5 minutes, we will launch right?  Shocked Shocked  Big money coming, icn to da moon
member
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October 13, 2016, 04:43:05 AM
It is really possible for x2 on the first day?


Sure, you will get your 40K in a blink.
hero member
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Think or swim.
October 13, 2016, 04:39:34 AM
....
you do not need $5 to sent your token, 0.01 eth is enough for the transaction fee
I dont think to pay $5 for the transaction fee it is too much.

LOL Cheesy... mate i would never use system that charge 5$ per transaction while you can pen less tan cents with eg. Doge,BC....

....

By holding ICN's you will receive dividends

If there is profit ^^
Regardless of profit or not.
The pf and index funds all carry a 20%apr fee which is dividend for ICN and admin
full member
Activity: 154
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October 13, 2016, 04:39:15 AM
It is really possible for x2 on the first day?
full member
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October 13, 2016, 04:24:24 AM
We will get dividend on our ICN if there is a profit in ICNX,what would we get by investing directly in ICNX?

We will get dividends on our ICN, if there is a profit in ICNP

ICNF  Wink

As I understand dividends will come only from performance fund. Or am I wrong?

No, they'll come from all funds through performance fees - if applicable - and platform fees - applicable no matter what -.
The only difference which sets apart the PERF.funds from the others to come is that it's partially owned by the platform,
so for this fund alone, dividends will also come from actual profit of the fund.

Oh I see.
Thank you for clarification.
hero member
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October 13, 2016, 04:24:06 AM
Is there any updates on ICN token release? Thanks!

Yes.

This was decided today.



ICN tokens will be available for transfer Tuesday ~12:00 CET

Get ready for Tuesday’s availability of ICN tokens: update your wallets, check your ETH addresses and prepare yourselves using ICONOMI test-it contract.

It is decided - on Tuesday ~12:00 CET we will issue ICN tokens. Exact block-height will be communicated on Monday 12:00 CET here on reddit, btt and twitter. We'll also mail investors. Generally, Tuesday morning is the best day to deploy tokens in terms of our technical team disposal and support if you will need it. Our full team will be there for you.

For fastest possible assignment of tokens Ethereum network should be as stable as possible. Right now network capacity is around 3 times smaller than when the network is stable. If the network instability will persist we can expect that all tokens will be assigned in around 15 minutes, it could be also more if there will be more network load at the time of coin issuing. Irregardless of deployment of token on Monday and that assignment of tokens will start on Monday, tokens will be available to transfer on Tuesday. Please note: Monday 12pm CET will also be cut off time for updating ETH address for ICN assignment.

Recently there were many updates of wallets. Only the latest updates solves Ethereum syncing issues. It seems that we have different kinds of investors with different levels of knowledge and familiarity with tools. Certainly those with less knowledge and experience need more time to prepare themselves. We will persistently remind our investors about the necessary steps to deal with ICN tokens.
I have to admit we have overestimated our investor’s familiarity with the tools needed. This is related to the use of ETH address in wallets and exchanges. It seems we have lot’s of newcomers, fiat investors, that need much more instructions and step-by-step guidance with additional alerts that need to be added.

On Thursday, October 13 for the same purpose a test-it contract will be deployed on mainnet where every investor will get 1 ICN + actual decimals of your ICN. So for example if you have 69323.0822184235 ICN you will receive 1.0822184235 ICN on your ICONOMI test-it contract for you to check access with your private keys. We have decided to do that for all those users new in crypto to prepare themselves for Tuesday, October 18. With the availability of real ICN contract, the test-it contract will be self destructed.

Localised times for ICN token availability on Tuesday.
- 12pm CET (noon in Europe)
- 10am UTC
- 6am EST
- 3am PST
- 12am Hawaii time zone (Monday midnight effectively)
- 1pm Moscow/Minsk/Kiev time zone
- 6pm China / Hong Kong time zone
- 9pm Sydney time zone

member
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October 13, 2016, 04:17:29 AM
We will get dividend on our ICN if there is a profit in ICNX,what would we get by investing directly in ICNX?

We will get dividends on our ICN, if there is a profit in ICNP

ICNF  Wink

As I understand dividends will come only from performance fund. Or am I wrong?

No, they'll come from all funds through performance fees - if applicable - and platform fees - applicable no matter what -.
The only difference which sets apart the PERF.funds from the others to come is that it's partially owned by the platform,
so for this fund alone, dividends will also come from actual profit of the fund.
sr. member
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October 13, 2016, 04:16:54 AM
Is there any updates on ICN token release? Thanks!
full member
Activity: 214
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October 13, 2016, 04:12:15 AM
We will get dividend on our ICN if there is a profit in ICNX,what would we get by investing directly in ICNX?

We will get dividends on our ICN, if there is a profit in ICNP

ICNF  Wink

As I understand dividends will come only from performance fund. Or am I wrong?
hero member
Activity: 994
Merit: 525
October 13, 2016, 04:01:22 AM
We will get dividend on our ICN if there is a profit in ICNX,what would we get by investing directly in ICNX?

We will get dividends on our ICN, if there is a profit in ICNP

ICNF  Wink
full member
Activity: 214
Merit: 100
October 13, 2016, 03:57:37 AM
We will get dividend on our ICN if there is a profit in ICNX,what would we get by investing directly in ICNX?

We will get dividends on our ICN, if there is a profit in ICNP
member
Activity: 115
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October 13, 2016, 03:57:31 AM
We will get dividend on our ICN if there is a profit in ICNX,what would we get by investing directly in ICNX?

The actual profit ! (if you sell, ofc)
Not the fee on that profit (ICN).
legendary
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October 13, 2016, 03:53:26 AM
We will get dividend on our ICN if there is a profit in ICNX,what would we get by investing directly in ICNX?
member
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October 13, 2016, 03:46:51 AM
@Jani, and the rest of the ICONOMI team:

Congratulations on a job well done getting us to the launch pad.  Now, to use a traditional astronaut phrase, "Let's light this candle!"

Hey, can you please do a Google spreadsheet showing the "genesis block" to show how much ICN went into each of the 3508 user accounts?  Distribution statistics are important to see and consider...

Thx for nice words!

Sure.
Here is genesis block spreadsheet for 85m ICN tokens.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FztYXiSJy5Ps2xc2nF4D8SHmVEimeFpAzeCfXkptQ00/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks, EXTREMELY interesting data....

Out of 3508 ICO investors, 25% of all available ICN worth $3.10M total is held by 12 people
Out of 3508 ICO investors, 50% of all available ICN worth $6.20M total is held by 68 people
Out of 3508 ICO investors, 75% of all available ICN worth $9.30M total is held by 582 people

Out of 3508 ICO investors, 2926 are splitting only 10% of all available ICN worth $1.25M among themselves.


This looks to me like the majority of the ICN is being held by deep pocket people as a long term investment.  

I predict a relatively small proportion of total ICN is going to be on the exchanges.  A shortage on the exchanges should mean a higher price.

To da moon for ICN!



In that case, I'm glad to inform you what would have been your reasoning before a 50K investement...
... if you had had any. (?)

A friend that is quiet good in Krypto Trading (he bought a house alone after ETH Trading) have told me i should invest 50k.
after ico he tell x2 is nothing so i have 100k. 90k i take after x2 and 10k he told i should let in for the next year.

And your friend is probably right.
When I see those kind of strategies from one of the top holders, I'm not so reassured knowing that only 12 people hold 25% of the supply and 68 people hold 50% ...
full member
Activity: 154
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October 13, 2016, 03:33:24 AM
Hi,

a question.

How much money i get if i have for Example 1000ICN and the INDEX Fund raises 10% in januar.
How much ETH then i get in Januar?

Hey,

First, your ICNs won't be invested in the ICNX, so you won't get any money directly from the INDEX rise.
If you want to, you would have to invest directly in the ICNX.

Second, no way to calculate that for now. Your ICN will bring you money from the fees collected on the funds.
The more money in the funds, the bigger the dividends. What's good with the rise is that it will attract more and more investors, thus bringing fees to the platform, and dividends to you.



But if my ICN are not invested why should i buy ICN? Or must I invest with these ICN in ICNX?

Please read the whitepaper. Most of your questions will be answered there. Looks like you dont understand what ICONOMI is all about.


I read it two times and i cant find anythink about investing in the Funds, how to invest and how to be paid... If you find it send me please the Page Number. Never saw such a bet whitepaper.

Technical details on the funds are not released yet. They're scheduled to be delivered during Q4.


 Huh Huh Huh No detalis and they got 10mil Euro?? Are the investeros stupid or what?

I think next time i make also a ICO. Whitepaper 9 Pages with nothing and i think 1mil i get without any Problem. After 2 weeks i close because of ETH Network problems.


You're focusing on the funds being the main plan again. We're talking about the platform's potential.
Please re-read the whitepapers.
Then, do yourself a favor and research a bit about how FIAT works today, how investment in securities work today (and how "profitable" they are) and how much time you figure it will stay this way before the whole thing collapses again.

Then cry a bit and rush on Polo / Kraken to buy ICNs for 4-5X the ICO price at best. Wink

Why to Polo. I am in with 50.000Euro  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



In that case, I'm glad to inform you what would have been your reasoning before a 50K investement...
... if you had had any. (?)

A friend that is quiet good in Krypto Trading (he bought a house alone after ETH Trading) have told me i should invest 50k.
after ico he tell x2 is nothing so i have 100k. 90k i take after x2 and 10k he told i should let in for the next year.
full member
Activity: 214
Merit: 100
October 13, 2016, 03:32:31 AM
Hi,

a question.

How much money i get if i have for Example 1000ICN and the INDEX Fund raises 10% in januar.
How much ETH then i get in Januar?

Hey,

First, your ICNs won't be invested in the ICNX, so you won't get any money directly from the INDEX rise.
If you want to, you would have to invest directly in the ICNX.

Second, no way to calculate that for now. Your ICN will bring you money from the fees collected on the funds.
The more money in the funds, the bigger the dividends. What's good with the rise is that it will attract more and more investors, thus bringing fees to the platform, and dividends to you.



But if my ICN are not invested why should i buy ICN? Or must I invest with these ICN in ICNX?

Please read the whitepaper. Most of your questions will be answered there. Looks like you dont understand what ICONOMI is all about.


I read it two times and i cant find anythink about investing in the Funds, how to invest and how to be paid... If you find it send me please the Page Number. Never saw such a bet whitepaper.

Technical details on the funds are not released yet. They're scheduled to be delivered during Q4.


 Huh Huh Huh No detalis and they got 10mil Euro?? Are the investeros stupid or what?

I think next time i make also a ICO. Whitepaper 9 Pages with nothing and i think 1mil i get without any Problem. After 2 weeks i close because of ETH Network problems.


Read things before you post stupid comments.
Well glad to know which ICO to avoid in the future.
member
Activity: 115
Merit: 10
October 13, 2016, 03:30:09 AM
Hi,

a question.

How much money i get if i have for Example 1000ICN and the INDEX Fund raises 10% in januar.
How much ETH then i get in Januar?

Hey,

First, your ICNs won't be invested in the ICNX, so you won't get any money directly from the INDEX rise.
If you want to, you would have to invest directly in the ICNX.

Second, no way to calculate that for now. Your ICN will bring you money from the fees collected on the funds.
The more money in the funds, the bigger the dividends. What's good with the rise is that it will attract more and more investors, thus bringing fees to the platform, and dividends to you.



But if my ICN are not invested why should i buy ICN? Or must I invest with these ICN in ICNX?

Please read the whitepaper. Most of your questions will be answered there. Looks like you dont understand what ICONOMI is all about.


I read it two times and i cant find anythink about investing in the Funds, how to invest and how to be paid... If you find it send me please the Page Number. Never saw such a bet whitepaper.

Technical details on the funds are not released yet. They're scheduled to be delivered during Q4.


 Huh Huh Huh No detalis and they got 10mil Euro?? Are the investeros stupid or what?

I think next time i make also a ICO. Whitepaper 9 Pages with nothing and i think 1mil i get without any Problem. After 2 weeks i close because of ETH Network problems.


You're focusing on the funds being the main plan again. We're talking about the platform's potential.
Please re-read the whitepapers.
Then, do yourself a favor and research a bit about how FIAT works today, how investment in securities work today (and how "profitable" they are) and how much time you figure it will stay this way before the whole thing collapses again.

Then cry a bit and rush on Polo / Kraken to buy ICNs for 4-5X the ICO price at best. Wink

Why to Polo. I am in with 50.000Euro  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



In that case, I'm glad to inform you what would have been your reasoning before a 50K investment...
... if you had had any. (?)
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
October 13, 2016, 03:25:04 AM
Hi,

a question.

How much money i get if i have for Example 1000ICN and the INDEX Fund raises 10% in januar.
How much ETH then i get in Januar?

Hey,

First, your ICNs won't be invested in the ICNX, so you won't get any money directly from the INDEX rise.
If you want to, you would have to invest directly in the ICNX.

Second, no way to calculate that for now. Your ICN will bring you money from the fees collected on the funds.
The more money in the funds, the bigger the dividends. What's good with the rise is that it will attract more and more investors, thus bringing fees to the platform, and dividends to you.



But if my ICN are not invested why should i buy ICN? Or must I invest with these ICN in ICNX?

Please read the whitepaper. Most of your questions will be answered there. Looks like you dont understand what ICONOMI is all about.


I read it two times and i cant find anythink about investing in the Funds, how to invest and how to be paid... If you find it send me please the Page Number. Never saw such a bet whitepaper.

Technical details on the funds are not released yet. They're scheduled to be delivered during Q4.


 Huh Huh Huh No detalis and they got 10mil Euro?? Are the investeros stupid or what?

I think next time i make also a ICO. Whitepaper 9 Pages with nothing and i think 1mil i get without any Problem. After 2 weeks i close because of ETH Network problems.


You're focusing on the funds being the main plan again. We're talking about the platform's potential.
Please re-read the whitepapers.
Then, do yourself a favor and research a bit about how FIAT works today, how investment in securities work today (and how "profitable" they are) and how much time you figure it will stay this way before the whole thing collapses again.

Then cry a bit and rush on Polo / Kraken to buy ICNs for 4-5X the ICO price at best. Wink

Why to Polo. I am in with 50.000Euro  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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