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October 11, 2016, 01:20:17 PM
Where to buy Iconomy now ... Huh
You can buy ICN "IOU" tokens at https://liqui.io. Read about IOU here: https://liqui.io/IOU.

Run from this. Run from IOU, ICONOMI not support this.
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October 11, 2016, 01:13:46 PM
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Not exactly. Many of these M have arrived after the Devcon 2. So it was probably great job done by Iconomi team Smiley

Devcon2 done nothing just people were waiting last days how it will be played and decided to invest or not invest in last 3 days.

For me go in sign was 10 000 BTC goal and 4m$ of performance fund without that i would never put more BTC into ICONOMI over those one with bonus.
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October 11, 2016, 01:10:10 PM
Where to buy Iconomy now ... Huh
You can buy ICN "IOU" tokens at https://liqui.io. Read about IOU here: https://liqui.io/IOU.
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October 11, 2016, 12:39:15 PM
If 50% of ICO is in 68 people hand, i don't think price will be dropped down. More people will take part in ICONOMI Project buying from bounty hunters

Bounty hunters only hold 2M ICN or only 2% of total available.  The entire market value of bounty hunter ICN is only 2,000,000 * 0.13 = $260,000.  That amount is going to change hands in the first hour of ICN trading.  For all the attention being paid to bounties in the previous pages, they are only a tiny part of ICN trading even if all are sold and none are held long-term.  Bounties were nothing more than a tiny one-time pre-launch advertising expense for ICONOMI that is now in the rear view mirror as we go forward.

Bounties were a VERY EFFECTIVE way to advertise. ICONOMI spent only 2% of their planned tokens to get over 10X of their original desired crowdfunding minimum of $1M.

Finally, Jani and the ICONOMI team working so hard to make sure these advertising bounties actually went to real participants showed the ICONIMI team can be trusted to do the "right thing".  This is HUGE for a crypto fund platform that is going to rely on trust first and foremost.

I wrote bounty hunters because i presume
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That amount is going to change hands in the first hour of ICN trading.
so if i want to come in i'll put some buy order to different position to deep. If i am correct (spike) my medium price will be lower than ico price

After that dipends on team development and communication
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October 11, 2016, 12:30:05 PM

Another fun fact.  Roughly speaking, 2100 ICO investors contributed less than 1 BTC while 500 of the 3508 investors put in more than 5 BTC.   

Wasn't 5 BTC the cutoff for the "free delivery" ICONOMI Visa Debit card?  Where do we enter our shipping address for those?

It's impossible to tell whether it's 500 or some smaller number all the way down to 410 or so, because the spreadsheet presumably includes early investment bonuses.
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October 11, 2016, 12:29:09 PM
Where to buy Iconomy now ... Huh

Someone already said to you it will be soon on Mt Gox.
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October 11, 2016, 12:20:48 PM
If 50% of ICO is in 68 people hand, i don't think price will be dropped down. More people will take part in ICONOMI Project buying from bounty hunters

Bottom line, bounties were a VERY EFFECTIVE way to advertise - ICONOMI spent only 2% of their planned tokens to get over 10X of their original desired crowdfunding minimum of $1M.
Not exactly. Many of these M have arrived after the Devcon 2. So it was probably great job done by Iconomi team Smiley
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October 11, 2016, 12:10:40 PM
If 50% of ICO is in 68 people hand, i don't think price will be dropped down. More people will take part in ICONOMI Project buying from bounty hunters

Bounty hunters only hold 2M ICN or only 2% of total available.  The entire market value of bounty hunter ICN is only 2,000,000 * 0.13 = $260,000.  That amount is going to change hands in the first hour of ICN trading.  For all the attention being paid to bounties in the previous pages, they are only a tiny part of ICN trading even if all are sold and none are held long-term.  Bounties were nothing more than a tiny one-time pre-launch advertising expense for ICONOMI that is now in the rear view mirror as we go forward.

Bounties were a VERY EFFECTIVE way to advertise. ICONOMI spent only 2% of their planned tokens to get over 10X of their original desired crowdfunding minimum of $1M.

Finally, Jani and the ICONOMI team working so hard to make sure these advertising bounties actually went to real participants showed the ICONIMI team can be trusted to do the "right thing".  This is HUGE for a crypto fund platform that is going to rely on trust first and foremost.
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October 11, 2016, 12:08:48 PM
Where to buy Iconomy now ... Huh
legendary
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October 11, 2016, 11:24:39 AM
Hey, can you please do a Google spreadsheet showing the "genesis block" to show how much ICN went into each of the 3508 user accounts?  Distribution statistics are important to see and consider...

Sure.
Here is genesis block spreadsheet for 85m ICN tokens.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FztYXiSJy5Ps2xc2nF4D8SHmVEimeFpAzeCfXkptQ00/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks, EXTREMELY interesting data....

Out of 3508 ICO investors, 25% of all available ICN worth $3.10M total is held by 12 people
Out of 3508 ICO investors, 50% of all available ICN worth $6.20M total is held by 68 people
Out of 3508 ICO investors, 75% of all available ICN worth $9.30M total is held by 582 people

Out of 3508 ICO investors, 2926 are splitting only 10% of all available ICN worth $1.25M among themselves.



Another fun fact.  Roughly speaking, 500 of the 3508 investors put in more than 5 BTC and 3000 put in less than 5 BTC.  

Wasn't 5 BTC the cutoff for the "free delivery" ICONOMI Visa Debit card?  Where do we enter our shipping address for those?

Maybe this will get a little time cause they need contact some factory to get a contract for this. And all FIAT investors just have your billing address if they post the true address

If 50% of ICO is in 68 people hand, i don't think price will be dropped down. More people will take part in ICONOMI Project buying from bounty hunters
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October 11, 2016, 11:19:04 AM
Here's a thought:

Okay, assuming some catastrophic economic meltdown happens with the debt-based Fiats, we all know that crypto's will be a huge thing. About the time fiats go sliding down fast, the value of crypto's begin to skyrocket against USD, EUR, and even CNY. There are many reasons why even gold backed fiat including BRICS nations will slide against cryptos at one time... Given that, The world will take a serious look at public blockchain wealth distribution, and start fueling the REAL frenzy; phase 2, global adoption. Corporation and banking blockchain alliances have already formed. They know they are in trouble, and in a rush to even understand and implement the technology, forming private chains. They don't want open public ledger because they can't create $ from thin air! (like they do when giving home loans in usa)
PoW, PoS... the main part being "Proof of", which in their books is a loan you owe them back with interest when they never had the $ in the first place. They can't milk you for tx fees, overdrafts, or deny you funds, or delay transfers for days letting clearing houses get a cut. They lose control, period. It scares the piss out of them, which is why alliances have formed to use the tech to at least lower costs internally between banks, again middleman screwed. Even the major clearing house itself (CHIPS) is looking at the possibility of harnessing btc to speed up legacy systems. None of this is going to save then when the value of the fiat they create is worthless. WallStreet will be scrambling for shelter... Gold sure, but being that blockchain is just ramping up, we stand a very good chance of a HUGE influx of money whenever global fiat economies begin to crumble. Then crypto-investing will become a popular thing. It's still new. Were not even at 1% global usage yet. Big things are coming. There are endless blockchain apps to develop. This is the first day of the rest of your life... The good part. You are about to make a shitload of money. All you have to do is hold on, it will be a bumpy, wild ride. Personal advice: Never convert 100% to fiat, it may bite you in the ass.
Good luck all!



This is the exact reason I've become interested in Crypto. Fiat is doomed and its only a matter of a 2008 repeat before a lot more of my generation wakes up and starts thinking about how money works.

They will beg like the Egyptians begged the pharaoh for bread and water when there was a drought in biblical times.
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October 11, 2016, 11:13:22 AM
Here's a thought:

Okay, assuming some catastrophic economic meltdown happens with the debt-based Fiats, we all know that crypto's will be a huge thing. About the time fiats go sliding down fast, the value of crypto's begin to skyrocket against USD, EUR, and even CNY. There are many reasons why even gold backed fiat including BRICS nations will slide against cryptos at one time... Given that, The world will take a serious look at public blockchain wealth distribution, and start fueling the REAL frenzy; phase 2, global adoption. Corporation and banking blockchain alliances have already formed. They know they are in trouble, and in a rush to even understand and implement the technology, forming private chains. They don't want open public ledger because they can't create $ from thin air! (like they do when giving home loans in usa)
PoW, PoS... the main part being "Proof of", which in their books is a loan you owe them back with interest when they never had the $ in the first place. They can't milk you for tx fees, overdrafts, or deny you funds, or delay transfers for days letting clearing houses get a cut. They lose control, period. It scares the piss out of them, which is why alliances have formed to use the tech to at least lower costs internally between banks, again middleman screwed. Even the major clearing house itself (CHIPS) is looking at the possibility of harnessing btc to speed up legacy systems. None of this is going to save then when the value of the fiat they create is worthless. WallStreet will be scrambling for shelter... Gold sure, but being that blockchain is just ramping up, we stand a very good chance of a HUGE influx of money whenever global fiat economies begin to crumble. Then crypto-investing will become a popular thing. It's still new. Were not even at 1% global usage yet. Big things are coming. There are endless blockchain apps to develop. This is the first day of the rest of your life... The good part. You are about to make a shitload of money. All you have to do is hold on, it will be a bumpy, wild ride. Personal advice: Never convert 100% to fiat, it may bite you in the ass.
Good luck all!

This is the exact reason I've become interested in Crypto. Fiat is doomed and its only a matter of a 2008 repeat before a lot more of my generation wakes up and starts thinking about how money works.
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October 11, 2016, 11:09:33 AM
0.001BTC is a fair price for investors and buyers for a project that has the potential to hit $100 million market cap, ICONOMI team has proven they are professionals and know what they want and how to get it, though a lot of people excluded from the bounty campaign will disagree with this thought but I'm very sure most investors will agree
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October 11, 2016, 10:50:47 AM
The team suggested to keep our ICN to our ICO account and probably the rest of us may keep thier ICONOMI there. is there advantages to keeping their ICN in their dashboard than sending it to an ETH wallet? just curious to know.

Can we also send our ICN back to our ICO account?
Some benefits I came to know are-

1. If ICNs are hacked from a iconomi wallet there are more chances that you would be compensated.

2. It would be good  for noobs. As you don't have to do anything.

3. You don't have to preserve the private keys and all that.

4. You don't have to download the blockchain.

5.  ICNs (if in Iconomi wallet) could be used to invest  in investment funds. ( This feature is not available currently. But according to some sources it would be announced later)

6. You may use iconomi founders debit card.


If anyone could add more benefits it would be great.

7. you won't sell till real pump ICONOMI will make your hands trully strong Cheesy,
while 90% will be cashing out in pump you will be able to HOLD like KING
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October 11, 2016, 10:11:36 AM
Hey, can you please do a Google spreadsheet showing the "genesis block" to show how much ICN went into each of the 3508 user accounts?  Distribution statistics are important to see and consider...

Sure.
Here is genesis block spreadsheet for 85m ICN tokens.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FztYXiSJy5Ps2xc2nF4D8SHmVEimeFpAzeCfXkptQ00/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks, EXTREMELY interesting data....

Out of 3508 ICO investors, 25% of all available ICN worth $3.10M total is held by 12 people
Out of 3508 ICO investors, 50% of all available ICN worth $6.20M total is held by 68 people
Out of 3508 ICO investors, 75% of all available ICN worth $9.30M total is held by 582 people

Out of 3508 ICO investors, 2926 are splitting only 10% of all available ICN worth $1.25M among themselves.



Another fun fact.  Roughly speaking, 500 of the 3508 investors put in more than 5 BTC and 3000 put in less than 5 BTC.  

Wasn't 5 BTC the cutoff for the "free delivery" ICONOMI Visa Debit card?  Where do we enter our shipping address for those?

Maybe this will get a little time cause they need contact some factory to get a contract for this. And all FIAT investors just have your billing address if they post the true address
legendary
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October 11, 2016, 10:01:01 AM
Hey, can you please do a Google spreadsheet showing the "genesis block" to show how much ICN went into each of the 3508 user accounts?  Distribution statistics are important to see and consider...

Sure.
Here is genesis block spreadsheet for 85m ICN tokens.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FztYXiSJy5Ps2xc2nF4D8SHmVEimeFpAzeCfXkptQ00/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks, EXTREMELY interesting data....

Out of 3508 ICO investors, 25% of all available ICN worth $3.10M total is held by 12 people
Out of 3508 ICO investors, 50% of all available ICN worth $6.20M total is held by 68 people
Out of 3508 ICO investors, 75% of all available ICN worth $9.30M total is held by 582 people

Out of 3508 ICO investors, 2926 are splitting only 10% of all available ICN worth $1.25M among themselves.



Another fun fact.  Roughly speaking, 2100 ICO investors contributed less than 1 BTC while 500 of the 3508 investors put in more than 5 BTC.   

Wasn't 5 BTC the cutoff for the "free delivery" ICONOMI Visa Debit card?  Where do we enter our shipping address for those?
legendary
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October 11, 2016, 09:56:07 AM


hmmm......
(20 BTC/90993.49 ICN)*$635.17 = $0.1396077895242836 per ICN
or am I wrong?

price was not avg of 635 at that time

you anticipated me, i was thinking the same thing about the USD/BTC rate
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October 11, 2016, 09:51:40 AM
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hmmm......
(20 BTC/90993.49 ICN)*$635.17 = $0.1396077895242836 per ICN
or am I wrong?
That's correct.

Another point of view,  Iconomi had only 2mio ICN for bounties ( compared with other projects) and also, the max bonus was 15% ( not 25%, 30% or even 50% )

Smart people will hold their ICN..
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October 11, 2016, 09:49:15 AM


hmmm......
(20 BTC/90993.49 ICN)*$635.17 = $0.1396077895242836 per ICN
or am I wrong?

price was not avg of 635 at that time
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October 11, 2016, 09:46:57 AM
Heard about the delay from your newsletter.
Will ICN be tradable on exchanges?
If not, where can you buy some more?
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