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But this doesn't take away the fact that you guys filled your pockets before anything else.

This isn't about "filling pockets". Be aware of what kind of product Indorse is building and take note that this requires a lot of time and man power.
sr. member
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So this is what it takes for you guys to show up, it's a clear sign you where following all this time. But now I have your attention, you should know that you just made things worst.


Keep it cool, don't use your emotions too much, the FUD you spread wont even help the price to go up.

There are a lot other project that have problem to list up and updating their details in CMC,
And it is true that they sometimes take weeks to list up a new coin in the website and the 10k transaction stuff too.
And once token get list up there. CMC very slow in updating the new circulating supply and new updates that the team submit to them.

And there is no money missing from the team.
7mil? First you need to understand how coinmarketcap calculate the market cap.
And please understand what is the marketcap.
They calculate the market cap = price x circulating supply.

The amount the team collect in ICO have nothing to do with the current market cap. This price of the indorse token is dictate by the market and community. Whom to blame? Blame the user and community, and probably a guy like you that spread fud and not really help much on the price and project development.


And join the slack and telegram channel, the devs promptly response to user in the channel. Idk where you have been before this. Bitcointalk is not the best site to get a prompt response.
sr. member
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Hi BeBlockTech,

This is David Moskowitz, the CEO/Cofounder of Indorse.

Happy to answer your questions regarding the token sale.

Your theory of how the token sale was conducted is not correct.

To start with- the market cap number, we've been trying to get CoinMarket cap to update that number for a few weeks. They have just been slow to update. This is the price from the current circulating supply times the current value of each token.
Unfortunately, the price of the token has dropped drastically, dropping the market cap. It's not something we want to see happen. If you knew me, you'd know that I take such things very personally.

The reason that there are so many more tokens held in reserve is that we held 37.5% for a second issuance in about 18-24 months (explained in the whitepaper), and also the unsold tokens issued for the sale itself.  It also includes locked up tokens for the advisors, founders and employees.

I apologize if we haven't been clear on the roles of the developers, or updated the website enough with their titles etc. We were quite busy with hiring last month, and now the team has been busy working on the next version since the ICO ended and we move onto the MVP.

I'll also check on pushing updates to github.

If you have a question on the project, please let us know and I'll do my best to answer.

David


Edit- I'll put together a list of what tokens make up the current circulating supply and what is currently out of circulating and post it shortly.





Circulating Supply: 46,508,191.6650790000 IND Tokens
This is the summation of the IND sold in Seed Round, PreSale Round, Token Sale Round, Tokens kept aside for Marketing and Bounties.

The IND token contracts which relate to:

(A) Future Usage: 58,832,578.4191050000 ,
(B) Advisors and Team: 28,079,513.3884562000 ,
(C) Inflation tokens:  14,624,747.000000000000, and
(D) IND Unsold Tokens (from Token Sale Round): 22,577,013.373442100000
are NOT in the market as CIRCULATING IND TOKENS.

Total IND Tokens which are currently non-circulating=124,113,852.1810030000

David

Nice update and reply👍🏻


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So this is what it takes for you guys to show up, it's a clear sign you where following all this time. But now I have your attention, you should know that you just made things worst.

About the roles of your team members, how stupid do you think people are? Do you seriously gonna come here and say what you say about the role distributions? You guys were in possession of almost 10 Millon USD and now you are telling me that the roles are not "rightly distributed"?? So you are playing with people's money, am I right? Because if you guys don't know who your senior developer is and who your co-founder is, there must be something going on here.
Even better;
-Who is the designer on Medium and why is he not listed on your website?
-Who is that smart-contract developer who has never been on GitHub?
-How can you don't know who is doing what in your team?

I could go on like this but I don't have the energy to put into this. Projects like this are the main reason China banning ICO's and that cryptos have such a name. There's a reason on why such projects don't let US citizens participate, the founders of it would end up in jail if they did so because Americans would be searching for you by now, and I seriously believe that founders of it belong in a cell.

You guys made up a team, copied a contract from Truffle and did an ICO, over 7 Million disappeared with the team and once exposed to the truth you come over here and underestimate peoples ability to do their research. You set aside 2% of your tokens for the bounty stuff there, and still, people get 3 tokens... 2% of your total supply is over 3.4m dude, how many people were promoting this stuff to come up with 3 tokens per person after 6 weeks of promoting? Is this what legit looks like to you?

And like I said, you are probably building your platform and all you want, you need to feed them with something right?. But this doesn't take away the fact that you guys filled your pockets before anything else. All that money missing while traveling around the world in the hunt for new investors is like asking us for more, your token is almost 90% down. Do you know what this means for holders? Dead money. And for those who sell: Big losses! I would love to see your bank account though.

There's not one legit company in the world that would let things go so far before taking the time to come over here and chat with the ones who helped their project of the ground, not one! Let's not even speak about a company that doesn't even know who is doing what in their team or who the members are. You guys are a joke!! A startup that keeps their market value hidden for over 7weeks and once they come up with one and over 7m are missing should be enough to put the founders of it behind bars.

And it's been over a month that Indorse is trading over 10.000 USD a day, and you are telling that coinmarketcap is the one responsible for not listing the total supply and so on. Go find out what others coins do in order to get everything listed the same day they come out. Coins with a market cap of 150k and without even the 10 000 daily trading volume required from coinmarketcap to get listed on their website manage to do so from day one "https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-red/", and you guys with an ICO of over 9m and the required trading volume just didn't manage to do the same...




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You can also visit the blog for more information and updates https://medium.com/joinIndorse
The team has been very active and is primarily focused on the development of the project.
very happy to see dev work hard to advance this project.
prices are very falling in etherdelta. hopefully, there will be good news next year for Indorse.

Now we just can wait or maybe buy this coin again when IND price still down deep and hold it for long term. Maybe after the team launched alpha version IND price can growing rapidly
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You can also visit the blog for more information and updates https://medium.com/joinIndorse
The team has been very active and is primarily focused on the development of the project.
very happy to see dev work hard to advance this project.
prices are very falling in etherdelta. hopefully, there will be good news next year for Indorse.
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You can also visit the blog for more information and updates https://medium.com/joinIndorse
The team has been very active and is primarily focused on the development of the project.
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Hello, please check out the INDORSE Telegram Channel if you would like to get more involved in Indorse and get more questions answered!

Join us at t.me/indorseio
newbie
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I can't understand why investors dumped their coins for 1/4+ of the price they paid in the ICO. Who does that anyway??

I've been asking myself the same question and don't believe what must of the members are saying over here, not anymore. One time it's because of the fork, the other time it's because of big wales... And what about them being scammers??

I know I have a newbie account, but I've been following ICO's for a while now and this is not normal.

Thre's not one of the members of their team that comes over here and explain himself, you don't leave the community that started your project without any info once you collect your ICO. And you don't give people 3 or 5 tokens after they promoted your project for 6 weeks or so.

Call me paranoid, but this is what I think they did;

Now, let's say you have 1000 ether and you decide to do an ICO. You go and start your project like those guys here did, but with other intentions than the one we think of.

Then, you become your own "angel investor" and grab your own tokens for let's say half of the price, so instead of 1000 tokens per ether, you get 2000 per ether. You send those to another account and you're ready for the next step.

The token distribution takes place and you set for sale the rest of your available tokens for the "normal" price. And this time let's say you sell for another 2000 ether. So now, you end up with 2.000.000 of your own tokens and investors also with 2.000.000 of them, but now, you have 3000 ether instead of 1000.

And now it's time to go ahead and do your thing. With that same account, you go and crash the price of your own token and cash out some more ethers, you know your investors trust you, and even if they don't, must of them will be buying the dips to cut our losses (some of us even thinking it's still a good investment), while you can go ahead and easily cash out some more ether and let them blame "the Chinese" for it.

Just an example, Bitcoin Blue, hmm sorry, Red (don't even know what for a coin that is) came out yesterday and they already have a circulating supply, a total supply, and a market cap. "https://coinmarketcap.com/new/"

That's not something we can say about Indorse, for a team that's claiming to show us complete transparency, this is a clear sign they don't. Only two days ago, over 7 weeks after the ICO, they come with a market cap, and it seems like there are no more than 47m circulating tokens with another 123m to go... I think we all should know better and start accepting our losses.

This is not something a legit company would do IMHO. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it!! Be aware, I'm not saying they are not building a platform and everything you want, but those peoples are just another bunch of scammers. They collected over 9.9 million "https://blog.indorse.io/indorse-token-sale-final-numbers-1f7cd856ce2" and after 7 weeks of waiting for their market cap to be released, they come up with 2.38m or so, where did those 7.5 million go? While the only thing that has changed in their project is the value of the token and their transparency with us. It's been 6 months I'm teaching myself how to code, and seriously, if you knew the number of platforms we can build with such amount of money.

123 Million to be distributed and there is not one account that holds that amount of tokens, it's spread over several accounts. I was having a look at their contract and it seems that those tokens are for advisors and for future use or so.

And while they are claiming that this guy over here is their Senior developer (scroll down to 'Team') "https://indorse.io/", the only one who has ever been present on GitHub is the founder himself... "https://github.com/orgs/indorseio/people", except for this one time 25 days ago when the co-founder showed up on GitHub and "updated" the contract... "https://github.com/indorseio/tokensale/commit/b9f062c20988d350353e867d872143c81decc284#diff-1b1fd45ce4d28644ae168ae72f422cf2"

Every other week is that guy present on some other blockchain meeting, every day posting on twitter, and the guy doesn't have 2 minutes to log into the account that started his project and chat with his people? Just promoting his project to keep the game going, searching to attract more investors and probably paying members over here to keep posting positive things about his project...

And while on their website the team consists of one senior developer, go find out why the hell on Medium they have two of them? They have two fuc*ing Senior Developers and a Smart Contract developer that doesn't even exist on their website and who has never been on GitHub.
-Harsh Nene  went from Product Advisor to  Senior Developer, Gaurang Torvekar went from co-Founder to  Technical Lead or the other way around... I could go on like this but go ahead and have a look by yourself to the team on Medium and the team on their website.

https://medium.com/crypt-bytes-tech/ico-review-indorse-7f7b64566eba




Hello friends,
I'm the one of investors contributed into Indorse Project in the token sale round. Up to now, I found that the ico token price was down 5x compared to the ico value. This is the first project that I'm really shocked about when the value falls so low. I almost lost 85% of my assets. I wonder if this is a scam project? And why does the project's token value continually fail without any sign of recovery? While there is hardly any feedback on the project from the developers? Why do not they burn the IND Unsold Tokens to increase the token value? Just as they did not see any advertising campaigns? Could they have sold their underground tokens at any cost? Many, many questions need to be answered.
hero member
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Surprisingly, Cofounder responds to investors' questions, it is very cool. You're done, the other developers need to take an example
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Circulating Supply: 46,508,191.6650790000 IND Tokens
This is the summation of the IND sold in Seed Round, PreSale Round, Token Sale Round, Tokens kept aside for Marketing and Bounties.

The IND token contracts which relate to:

(A) Future Usage: 58,832,578.4191050000 ,
(B) Advisors and Team: 28,079,513.3884562000 ,
(C) Inflation tokens:  14,624,747.000000000000, and
(D) IND Unsold Tokens (from Token Sale Round): 22,577,013.373442100000
are NOT in the market as CIRCULATING IND TOKENS.

Total IND Tokens which are currently non-circulating=124,113,852.1810030000

David
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Hi BeBlockTech,

This is David Moskowitz, the CEO/Cofounder of Indorse.

Happy to answer your questions regarding the token sale.

Your theory of how the token sale was conducted is not correct.

To start with- the market cap number, we've been trying to get CoinMarket cap to update that number for a few weeks. They have just been slow to update. This is the price from the current circulating supply times the current value of each token.
Unfortunately, the price of the token has dropped drastically, dropping the market cap. It's not something we want to see happen. If you knew me, you'd know that I take such things very personally.

The reason that there are so many more tokens held in reserve is that we held 37.5% for a second issuance in about 18-24 months (explained in the whitepaper), and also the unsold tokens issued for the sale itself.  It also includes locked up tokens for the advisors, founders and employees.

I apologize if we haven't been clear on the roles of the developers, or updated the website enough with their titles etc. We were quite busy with hiring last month, and now the team has been busy working on the next version since the ICO ended and we move onto the MVP.

I'll also check on pushing updates to github.

If you have a question on the project, please let us know and I'll do my best to answer.

David


Edit- I'll put together a list of what tokens make up the current circulating supply and what is currently out of circulating and post it shortly.


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I can't understand why investors dumped their coins for 1/4+ of the price they paid in the ICO. Who does that anyway??

I've been asking myself the same question and don't believe what must of the members are saying over here, not anymore. One time it's because of the fork, the other time it's because of big wales... And what about them being scammers??

I know I have a newbie account, but I've been following ICO's for a while now and this is not normal.

Thre's not one of the members of their team that comes over here and explain himself, you don't leave the community that started your project without any info once you collect your ICO. And you don't give people 3 or 5 tokens after they promoted your project for 6 weeks or so.

Call me paranoid, but this is what I think they did;

Now, let's say you have 1000 ether and you decide to do an ICO. You go and start your project like those guys here did, but with other intentions than the one we think of.

Then, you become your own "angel investor" and grab your own tokens for let's say half of the price, so instead of 1000 tokens per ether, you get 2000 per ether. You send those to another account and you're ready for the next step.

The token distribution takes place and you set for sale the rest of your available tokens for the "normal" price. And this time let's say you sell for another 2000 ether. So now, you end up with 2.000.000 of your own tokens and investors also with 2.000.000 of them, but now, you have 3000 ether instead of 1000.

And now it's time to go ahead and do your thing. With that same account, you go and crash the price of your own token and cash out some more ethers, you know your investors trust you, and even if they don't, must of them will be buying the dips to cut our losses (some of us even thinking it's still a good investment), while you can go ahead and easily cash out some more ether and let them blame "the Chinese" for it.

Just an example, Bitcoin Blue, hmm sorry, Red (don't even know what for a coin that is) came out yesterday and they already have a circulating supply, a total supply, and a market cap. "https://coinmarketcap.com/new/"

That's not something we can say about Indorse, for a team that's claiming to show us complete transparency, this is a clear sign they don't. Only two days ago, over 7 weeks after the ICO, they come with a market cap, and it seems like there are no more than 47m circulating tokens with another 123m to go... I think we all should know better and start accepting our losses.

This is not something a legit company would do IMHO. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it!! Be aware, I'm not saying they are not building a platform and everything you want, but those peoples are just another bunch of scammers. They collected over 9.9 million "https://blog.indorse.io/indorse-token-sale-final-numbers-1f7cd856ce2" and after 7 weeks of waiting for their market cap to be released, they come up with 2.38m or so, where did those 7.5 million go? While the only thing that has changed in their project is the value of the token and their transparency with us. It's been 6 months I'm teaching myself how to code, and seriously, if you knew the number of platforms we can build with such amount of money.

123 Million to be distributed and there is not one account that holds that amount of tokens, it's spread over several accounts. I was having a look at their contract and it seems that those tokens are for advisors and for future use or so.

And while they are claiming that this guy over here is their Senior developer (scroll down to 'Team') "https://indorse.io/", the only one who has ever been present on GitHub is the founder himself... "https://github.com/orgs/indorseio/people", except for this one time 25 days ago when the co-founder showed up on GitHub and "updated" the contract... "https://github.com/indorseio/tokensale/commit/b9f062c20988d350353e867d872143c81decc284#diff-1b1fd45ce4d28644ae168ae72f422cf2"

Every other week is that guy present on some other blockchain meeting, every day posting on twitter, and the guy doesn't have 2 minutes to log into the account that started his project and chat with his people? Just promoting his project to keep the game going, searching to attract more investors and probably paying members over here to keep posting positive things about his project...

And while on their website the team consists of one senior developer, go find out why the hell on Medium they have two of them? They have two fuc*ing Senior Developers and a Smart Contract developer that doesn't even exist on their website and who has never been on GitHub.
-Harsh Nene  went from Product Advisor to  Senior Developer, Gaurang Torvekar went from co-Founder to  Technical Lead or the other way around... I could go on like this but go ahead and have a look by yourself to the team on Medium and the team on their website.

https://medium.com/crypt-bytes-tech/ico-review-indorse-7f7b64566eba



newbie
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I can't understand why investors dumped their coins for 1/4+ of the price they paid in the ICO. Who does that anyway??
The answer is obvious, those investors do a dump of who get big bonuses for pre ICO or private sales, so in all tokensales

Yeah, it have to be. Then the regular buyer sells in fear, only to drop the price further..
hero member
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I can't understand why investors dumped their coins for 1/4+ of the price they paid in the ICO. Who does that anyway??
The answer is obvious, those investors do a dump of who get big bonuses for pre ICO or private sales, so in all tokensales
newbie
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I can't understand why investors dumped their coins for 1/4+ of the price they paid in the ICO. Who does that anyway??
newbie
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btc pump for forking ,as we know this is a crucial period for all altcoin holders as the investment is already going down day by day,waitting for btc stable ,

But we still have oportunity in this situation, we can take advantage with this situation by buying alt coins with has bright future at lower price. Then if situation stable the coin price posible can increase and we will get more profit
that's what I'm doing, I've bought Indorse, Rivetz, Investfeed, Bitjob, and don't forget ethereum. because I believe the coin is still worth invested

Are you really positive about your thoughts about indorse? Do you think it will rise after fork ? the project seems to have lost 5x multple its  value after the ico process. many projects have decreased but I have not seen so much loss of value. Lampix has lost 50%. I guess the rivetz project has lost so much. After fork , most of them will probably recover, but it will take a little more time to find their old values.

what is your suggestion in this regard? if i buy indorse and lampix. What would be wrong ? I just need to know that projects are robust and reliable.



indorse is already Listed in the Liqui just a matter of time for IND go up. and Rivetz everyone knows they just finished ICO wait until rivetz is listed in big market and see what happens

Yes right and now Liqui officially accept IND, good job team, hope next exchanger is bittrex or livecoin.
full member
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btc pump for forking ,as we know this is a crucial period for all altcoin holders as the investment is already going down day by day,waitting for btc stable ,

But we still have oportunity in this situation, we can take advantage with this situation by buying alt coins with has bright future at lower price. Then if situation stable the coin price posible can increase and we will get more profit
that's what I'm doing, I've bought Indorse, Rivetz, Investfeed, Bitjob, and don't forget ethereum. because I believe the coin is still worth invested

Are you really positive about your thoughts about indorse? Do you think it will rise after fork ? the project seems to have lost 5x multple its  value after the ico process. many projects have decreased but I have not seen so much loss of value. Lampix has lost 50%. I guess the rivetz project has lost so much. After fork , most of them will probably recover, but it will take a little more time to find their old values.

what is your suggestion in this regard? if i buy indorse and lampix. What would be wrong ? I just need to know that projects are robust and reliable.



indorse is already Listed in the Liqui just a matter of time for IND go up. and Rivetz everyone knows they just finished ICO wait until rivetz is listed in big market and see what happens
hero member
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what exchange is indorse trading on?

IND tokens trade on Liqui, HitBtc, COSS and Yobit.


all of them are small market ,when will IND hit major exchange ,i am waitting for that good news .


HitBTC is not small at all, it has almost as much volume as Bittrex

Yes but Bittrex has more volume and considered to be easier for trading.

The difference is not that Big, bittrex is maybe more comfortable but HitBTC is great too ! Anyway being on both would be the best;)
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