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Topic: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet - page 34. (Read 579765 times)

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Hello,

I made a video about MAIDsafe on my Youtube channel called Wild Promotion in which I promote crypto currencies.

Enjoy the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02pYUHkc7Uo

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Hello,

I read this on maidesafe.net : MaidSafeCoin is a proxy token that was released during MaidSafe's crowd sale and will be swapped for Safecoin on a 1:1 basis when Safecoin is released.  https://maidsafe.net/buy_maidSafeCoin.html

I'm not an expert i need to understand ...When safecoin will be released we we will have more than 452,552,412 MAID because farming will be start with at the end total supply 4.3 billion coins.  "will be swapped for Safecoin on a 1:1 basis when Safecoin is released"

My question : If we have more and more coins (after farming began) and the possibility to exchange one maidsafe for one safecoin. How it will be capitalized Huh  Exemple when we have 900,000,000 safecoin or maidesafe (same coin) it mean the price down by half ?
I thought maidsafe and safecoin will be not sharing.

 Thanks everybody in advance for explication help me to understand.

Best regards,


When the network launches with Farming and Safecoin MaidSafe will "create" those 452,552,412 Safecoin for all people owning Maidsafecoin. You will pay to store data on the network (PUT). When you pay that Safecoin is "burned" or actually, you give up ownership of that address. That address comes free again to one day (if ever) be farmed again.

So with Farming and Safecoin active on the network coins are both "burned" and "created". Don't expect millions of coins to be farmed in several weeks, it's probably more like Bitcoin where only a few coins are created every 10 minutes. But before they'll launch this we'll see test_safecoin so we can all test this stuff out.    

I'm a huge pl3blord, but i just wanted to clarify.... when you say Maidsafecoin, you are referring to the Maidsafe coin that is currently tradable on the open market yes?
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Hello,

I read this on maidesafe.net : MaidSafeCoin is a proxy token that was released during MaidSafe's crowd sale and will be swapped for Safecoin on a 1:1 basis when Safecoin is released.  https://maidsafe.net/buy_maidSafeCoin.html

I'm not an expert i need to understand ...When safecoin will be released we we will have more than 452,552,412 MAID because farming will be start with at the end total supply 4.3 billion coins.  "will be swapped for Safecoin on a 1:1 basis when Safecoin is released"

My question : If we have more and more coins (after farming began) and the possibility to exchange one maidsafe for one safecoin. How it will be capitalized Huh  Exemple when we have 900,000,000 safecoin or maidesafe (same coin) it mean the price down by half ?
I thought maidsafe and safecoin will be not sharing.

 Thanks everybody in advance for explication help me to understand.

Best regards,



When the network launches with Farming and Safecoin MaidSafe will "create" those 452,552,412 Safecoin for all people owning Maidsafecoin. You will pay to store data on the network (PUT). When you pay that Safecoin is "burned" or actually, you give up ownership of that address. That address comes free again to one day (if ever) be farmed again.

So with Farming and Safecoin active on the network coins are both "burned" and "created". Don't expect millions of coins to be farmed in several weeks, it's probably more like Bitcoin where only a few coins are created every 10 minutes. But before they'll launch this we'll see test_safecoin so we can all test this stuff out.    
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Hello,

I read this on maidesafe.net : MaidSafeCoin is a proxy token that was released during MaidSafe's crowd sale and will be swapped for Safecoin on a 1:1 basis when Safecoin is released.  https://maidsafe.net/buy_maidSafeCoin.html

I'm not an expert i need to understand ...When safecoin will be released we we will have more than 452,552,412 MAID because farming will be start with at the end total supply 4.3 billion coins.  "will be swapped for Safecoin on a 1:1 basis when Safecoin is released"

My question : If we have more and more coins (after farming began) and the possibility to exchange one maidsafe for one safecoin. How it will be capitalized Huh  Exemple when we have 900,000,000 safecoin or maidesafe (same coin) it mean the price down by half ?
I thought maidsafe and safecoin will be not sharing.

 Thanks everybody in advance for explication help me to understand.

Best regards,
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Noob question, but if somebody can shed some light on this I would be very thankful. As a MAID holder do I get this SAFE coin you guys are talking here about? I have been holding MAID for over 3 months now, what is next on the roadmap? Slightly concerned about the price, but still holding long.

When MaidSafe implements Farming and Safecoin and all is well tested there will be a moment you can change Maidsafecoin for Safecoin on a 1-on-1 basis. They will probably give you a burn address to send your MAID to. Next thing you'll get the real Safecoin on the SAFE Network.
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Noob question, but if somebody can shed some light on this I would be very thankful. As a MAID holder do I get this SAFE coin you guys are talking here about? I have been holding MAID for over 3 months now, what is next on the roadmap? Slightly concerned about the price, but still holding long.
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This is NOT YET a public test network but the first people got invited to test it a bit:

https://safenetforum.org/t/feedback-for-test-17-internal-testing/14585

More people will be asked in the next few days and hopefully it's open to all people this/next week.
They call it TEST 17 so expect TEST 17b and maybe even TEST 17c before we're seeing Alpha 2. But this shows
they're making some good progress.



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Here's the community Telegram group:

https://t.me/safenetwork


Enjoy!@!
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Zepher is scammer!:)
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Wow, that sounds like good news! Keep up the good work!
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https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-june-29-2017/14529

TL;DR  Two new devs. Some long term community members will get a PM to help test the test_network this week.
           several anti-spam/attack features implemented.


Enjoy!@!   
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Here's the Safenetwork Slack channel:


https://safenetwork.slack.com


New update tonight, let's see if they release the next testnet today. They have it up locally for 2 weeks now but had some bugs.

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Holding and waiting... let's go $MAID
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Very happy, after a few months trading and making capital, a got MAID at 18k satoshis, this project is about to explode  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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$MAID holders hold on.. this should be good
Maidsafe is holding on to 19k+ atleast even when everything is in deep red. But then upmove is equally appalling.
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$MAID holders hold on.. this should be good
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So all these Alpha tests are only with the client side front end?  When will the public get to test the meat of the protocol and run their own nodes and 'farm' for coins in a testnet?  

Shouldn't the devs be doing this the other way around and concentrate on the server side instead of the client side?  It's really hard to take all the client side tests seriously if the server side isn't going well.

Alpha 2 was supposed to run with Vaults from home, we've already had several testnets testing these. Then a hacker decided to attack the network which is very easy as storing is free and several safety features aren't implemented yet. So we saw client spamming and a bizar amount of accounts created.

That's why they decided to do it the other way around. Instead of focus on Vaults from home for Alpha 2 they made it about Mutable Data and the APIs for devs. Half of the team is already focused on Alpha 3 implementing spam attacks, secure joining and more. This from the update:

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To prevent client spamming the network, we have introduced a concept of rate-limiter2. We start with defining what is the total bandwidth that can be handled non-disruptively by the network on behalf of the clients (bandwidth usage due to churn/data-relocation etc. are over and above this). These numbers will likely be tweaked based on test results and actual network capability. Then we divide that by the total number of potential proxies we plan the testnet for, thus getting the maximum throughput allowed for clients per proxy. Then, depending on the total number of connected clients, we distribute this bandwidth evenly among them for fair usage policy.  

So you're right, the Vault part is important as well, but that's being worked on for weeks as now. But don't underestimate the APIs and Mutable Data. And next to that the SAFE Browser and Authenticator. Alpha 2 is gonna be quite a big release if you compare it to Alpha 1. This one should also kickstart the ecosystem with web apps. External devs have waited a long time for this stuff to finally come around.  
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So all these Alpha tests are only with the client side front end?  When will the public get to test the meat of the protocol and run their own nodes and 'farm' for coins in a testnet? 

Shouldn't the devs be doing this the other way around and concentrate on the server side instead of the client side?  It's really hard to take all the client side tests seriously if the server side isn't going well.
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