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Topic: [ANN] Iridium (IRD) - People are Power - Community build crypto - page 50. (Read 149821 times)

newbie
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Hi Stevebrush, there is some news, how the development is progressing and when it is expected hardfork?
jr. member
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Merit: 5
I know our dev has some tons of work to do, but I think it can be interesting to make possible for this coin to be merged-mined with monero, like for xample xdn digital note.. what do you think?
full member
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cryptonight coin pretty popular right now look at etn sumo krb
all new coin but have a really good value , i hope iridium will be the same in the future
full member
Activity: 462
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what do u think would be a fair price for listing on exchange?

Just , is how much?

idk i was just asking, I bet something between 10 and 30 sat...
newbie
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what do u think would be a fair price for listing on exchange?

Just , is how much?
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 103
what do u think would be a fair price for listing on exchange?
newbie
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Merit: 0
irdpool .tk is back online, sorry for the downtime.
newbie
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Merit: 0
Hi guys.

I setup a IRD pool using cryptonote-universal-pool v1.1.4, but i stucked in some issues.

1 - Cant connec to wallet
In admin tab, under monitoring, wallet status is fail
{"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}

My config.json looks OK
    "daemon": {
        "host": "127.0.0.1",
        "port": 13007
    },

    "wallet": {
        "host": "127.0.0.1",
        "port": 12007
    },

iridiumd start normally with ./iridiumd
2018-Jan-05 10:31:53.333208 INFO    Binding on 0.0.0.0:12007
2018-Jan-05 10:31:53.333332 INFO    Net service binded on 0.0.0.0:12007
2018-Jan-05 10:31:53.333405 INFO    Attempting to add IGD port mapping.
2018-Jan-05 10:31:57.337678 INFO    No IGD was found.
2018-Jan-05 10:31:57.337876 INFO    P2p server initialized OK
2018-Jan-05 10:31:57.338555 INFO    Starting core rpc server on address 127.0.0.1:13007


2 - After find a block, I got the following messages
2018-01-05 10:40:04 [master] Block unlocker died, spawning replacement...
2018-01-05 10:40:06 [unlocker] Started

TypeError: Object true has no method 'map'
    at async.waterfall.orphanCommands (/root/pool/lib/blockUnlocker.js:82:40)
    at nextTask (/root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:5310:14)
    at next (/root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:5317:9)
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:958:16
    at /root/pool/lib/blockUnlocker.js:75:17
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:3358:25
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:473:16
    at iteratorCallback (/root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:1048:13)
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:958:16
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:3355:13


I kindly ask for some help


Use nvm to switch to node 0.10 then run npm update.
newbie
Activity: 51
Merit: 0
Hi guys.

I setup a IRD pool using cryptonote-universal-pool v1.1.4, but i stucked in some issues.

1 - Cant connec to wallet
In admin tab, under monitoring, wallet status is fail
{"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}

My config.json looks OK
    "daemon": {
        "host": "127.0.0.1",
        "port": 13007
    },

    "wallet": {
        "host": "127.0.0.1",
        "port": 12007
    },

iridiumd start normally with ./iridiumd
2018-Jan-05 10:31:53.333208 INFO    Binding on 0.0.0.0:12007
2018-Jan-05 10:31:53.333332 INFO    Net service binded on 0.0.0.0:12007
2018-Jan-05 10:31:53.333405 INFO    Attempting to add IGD port mapping.
2018-Jan-05 10:31:57.337678 INFO    No IGD was found.
2018-Jan-05 10:31:57.337876 INFO    P2p server initialized OK
2018-Jan-05 10:31:57.338555 INFO    Starting core rpc server on address 127.0.0.1:13007


2 - After find a block, I got the following messages
2018-01-05 10:40:04 [master] Block unlocker died, spawning replacement...
2018-01-05 10:40:06 [unlocker] Started

TypeError: Object true has no method 'map'
    at async.waterfall.orphanCommands (/root/pool/lib/blockUnlocker.js:82:40)
    at nextTask (/root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:5310:14)
    at next (/root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:5317:9)
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:958:16
    at /root/pool/lib/blockUnlocker.js:75:17
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:3358:25
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:473:16
    at iteratorCallback (/root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:1048:13)
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:958:16
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:3355:13


I kindly ask for some help

Unfortunately irdpool is down right due to issues at the datacenter. It will be returning, hopefully imminently.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
I see this project is a very promising project for the long term. The logo design is very interesting. With a cube and Iridium also added a handshake image, I think this is very good. And then, im watting for windows wallet and pool to mine,
wish have a good launch.

The project has already started, links to Windows GUI wallet (can be used for cpu mining), GPU miners and the 4 available pools are in the first post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-iridium-ird-people-are-power-community-build-crypto-2150442
member
Activity: 361
Merit: 11
Iridium (IRD) dev
Hi guys.

I setup a IRD pool using cryptonote-universal-pool v1.1.4, but i stucked in some issues.

1 - Cant connec to wallet
In admin tab, under monitoring, wallet status is fail
{"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}

My config.json looks OK
    "daemon": {
        "host": "127.0.0.1",
        "port": 13007
    },

    "wallet": {
        "host": "127.0.0.1",
        "port": 12007
    },

iridiumd start normally with ./iridiumd
2018-Jan-05 10:31:53.333208 INFO    Binding on 0.0.0.0:12007
2018-Jan-05 10:31:53.333332 INFO    Net service binded on 0.0.0.0:12007
2018-Jan-05 10:31:53.333405 INFO    Attempting to add IGD port mapping.
2018-Jan-05 10:31:57.337678 INFO    No IGD was found.
2018-Jan-05 10:31:57.337876 INFO    P2p server initialized OK
2018-Jan-05 10:31:57.338555 INFO    Starting core rpc server on address 127.0.0.1:13007


2 - After find a block, I got the following messages
2018-01-05 10:40:04 [master] Block unlocker died, spawning replacement...
2018-01-05 10:40:06 [unlocker] Started

TypeError: Object true has no method 'map'
    at async.waterfall.orphanCommands (/root/pool/lib/blockUnlocker.js:82:40)
    at nextTask (/root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:5310:14)
    at next (/root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:5317:9)
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:958:16
    at /root/pool/lib/blockUnlocker.js:75:17
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:3358:25
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:473:16
    at iteratorCallback (/root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:1048:13)
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:958:16
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:3355:13


I kindly ask for some help

Hello, pool softwares are not developped here, so for help concerning pools, ask directly to pool devs or pool owners
member
Activity: 361
Merit: 11
Iridium (IRD) dev
00:20:07:918   14dc   buf: {"id":1,"jsonrpc":"2.0","error":{"code":-1,"message":"invalid address used for login"}}
00:20:27:972   14dc   XMR: Stratum - connecting to 'ird.uvac.fr' <83.197.6.152> port 3333 (unsecure)

Answer is in the logs you provide :
1st : the address does not looks like an IRD address, but a bitcoin address ...
2nd : you are trying to use a non ssl port (3333 on ird.uvac.fr) and claymore use a ssl port (I don't use it but I think it's the case)

First of all,thanks for replay, you are right, my wallet address is wrong. The second part about non ssl port, i need to check it on youtube, because
it is new for me. What  is the main difference between ssl and non ssl port? or maybe you know the ssl port in this case ?
It's just written on "getting started" pool, search a little then if you really don't find, I'll give you the port Smiley
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Hello guys , i m trying to mine iridium with claymore amd gpu miner v11.2 pool catalyst, but i am i trouble to set up configuration file. i have 2 vega 64 on my pc.


Are you sure about your wallet address? My address is much longer..


thanks for replay, it is wrong address my mistake
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
00:20:07:918   14dc   buf: {"id":1,"jsonrpc":"2.0","error":{"code":-1,"message":"invalid address used for login"}}
00:20:27:972   14dc   XMR: Stratum - connecting to 'ird.uvac.fr' <83.197.6.152> port 3333 (unsecure)

Answer is in the logs you provide :
1st : the address does not looks like an IRD address, but a bitcoin address ...
2nd : you are trying to use a non ssl port (3333 on ird.uvac.fr) and claymore use a ssl port (I don't use it but I think it's the case)

First of all,thanks for replay, you are right, my wallet address is wrong. The second part about non ssl port, i need to check it on youtube, because
it is new for me. What  is the main difference between ssl and non ssl port? or maybe you know the ssl port in this case ?
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
Hi guys.

I setup a IRD pool using cryptonote-universal-pool v1.1.4, but i stucked in some issues.

1 - Cant connec to wallet
In admin tab, under monitoring, wallet status is fail
{"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}

My config.json looks OK
    "daemon": {
        "host": "127.0.0.1",
        "port": 13007
    },

    "wallet": {
        "host": "127.0.0.1",
        "port": 12007
    },

iridiumd start normally with ./iridiumd
2018-Jan-05 10:31:53.333208 INFO    Binding on 0.0.0.0:12007
2018-Jan-05 10:31:53.333332 INFO    Net service binded on 0.0.0.0:12007
2018-Jan-05 10:31:53.333405 INFO    Attempting to add IGD port mapping.
2018-Jan-05 10:31:57.337678 INFO    No IGD was found.
2018-Jan-05 10:31:57.337876 INFO    P2p server initialized OK
2018-Jan-05 10:31:57.338555 INFO    Starting core rpc server on address 127.0.0.1:13007


2 - After find a block, I got the following messages
2018-01-05 10:40:04 [master] Block unlocker died, spawning replacement...
2018-01-05 10:40:06 [unlocker] Started

TypeError: Object true has no method 'map'
    at async.waterfall.orphanCommands (/root/pool/lib/blockUnlocker.js:82:40)
    at nextTask (/root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:5310:14)
    at next (/root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:5317:9)
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:958:16
    at /root/pool/lib/blockUnlocker.js:75:17
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:3358:25
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:473:16
    at iteratorCallback (/root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:1048:13)
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:958:16
    at /root/pool/node_modules/async/dist/async.js:3355:13


I kindly ask for some help
jr. member
Activity: 53
Merit: 5
Hello guys , i m trying to mine iridium with claymore amd gpu miner v11.2 pool catalyst, but i am i trouble to set up configuration file. i have 2 vega 64 on my pc.

here is how it looks config file

-xpool NsGpuCNMiner -o stratum+tcp://ird.uvac.fr:3333
-xwal 1FBx32PjsS1Q1dHDVGg5eRnz7ztsByAhCL
-xpsw x

#-allpools 1
#-tt 75

here is the error i am getting

00:19:51:954   1d80   args: -xpool NsGpuCNMiner -o stratum+tcp://ird.uvac.fr:3333 -xwal 1FBx32PjsS1Q1dHDVGg5eRnz7ztsByAhCL -xpsw x
00:19:51:958   1d80   
00:19:51:962   1d80   ÉÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ»
00:19:51:965   1d80   º           Claymore's CryptoNote AMD GPU Miner v11.2            º
00:19:51:970   1d80   ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍͼ
00:19:51:975   1d80   
00:19:51:979   1d80   b533
00:19:52:188   1d80   Wrong Monero wallet address, "-allpools 1" option will be enabled automatically, read Readme for details.
00:19:52:215   1d80   XMR: 1 pool is specified
00:19:52:224   1d80   Main Monero pool is ird.uvac.fr:3333
00:19:52:526   1d80   OpenCL platform: Intel(R) OpenCL
00:19:52:530   1d80   OpenCL platform: AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing
00:19:52:535   1d80   OpenCL initializing...
00:19:52:540   1d80   driver 10.0.2442.12
00:19:52:544   1d80   AMD Cards available: 2
00:19:52:548   1d80   GPU #0: gfx901 (687F:C0), 8094 MB available, 64 compute units (pci bus 3:0:0)
00:19:52:552   1d80   GPU #0 recognized as Vega
00:19:52:558   1d80   card 0, m1 8094, m2 4048 w 512
00:19:52:563   1d80   GPU #1: gfx901 (687F:C0), 8094 MB available, 64 compute units (pci bus 7:0:0)
00:19:52:567   1d80   GPU #1 recognized as Vega
00:19:52:572   1d80   card 1, m1 8094, m2 4048 w 512
00:19:52:578   1d80   POOL version
00:19:52:583   1d80   b141
00:19:52:589   1d80   Platform: Windows
00:19:52:734   1d80   start building OpenCL program for GPU 0...
00:19:53:140   1d80   done
00:19:53:400   1d80   start building OpenCL program for GPU 1...
00:19:53:640   1d80   done
00:19:53:878   1d80   GPU #0 algorithm ASM, -h 3072, -dmem 0 (Memory used: 6297MB)
00:19:53:894   1d80   GPU #1 algorithm ASM, -h 3072, -dmem 0 (Memory used: 6297MB)
00:19:53:899   1d80   Total cards: 2
00:20:07:772   14dc   XMR: Stratum - connecting to 'ird.uvac.fr' <83.197.6.152> port 3333 (unsecure)
00:20:07:849   1d80   "-allpools" option is set, default pools can be used for devfee, check "Readme" file for details.
00:20:07:849   14dc   send: {"method": "login", "params": {"login": "1FBx32PjsS1Q1dHDVGg5eRnz7ztsByAhCL", "pass": "x", "agent": "xmr/1.0"}, "id": 1}

00:20:07:856   14dc   XMR: Stratum - Connected (ird.uvac.fr:3333) (unsecure)
00:20:07:856   1d80   Watchdog enabled
00:20:07:856   1d80   Remote management (READ-ONLY MODE) is enabled on port 3333
00:20:07:872   1d80   

00:20:07:914   14dc   got 88 bytes
00:20:07:918   14dc   buf: {"id":1,"jsonrpc":"2.0","error":{"code":-1,"message":"invalid address used for login"}}

00:20:07:922   14dc   parse packet: 83
00:20:07:928   14dc   Error in server response
: {"id":1,"jsonrpc":"2.0","error":{"code":-1,"message":"invalidaddressusedforlogin"}}
00:20:07:933   14dc   buf was cleared
00:20:07:939   14dc   XMR: Job timeout, disconnect, retry in 20 sec...
00:20:09:882   2350   server: bind failed with error: 10048 (port for remote management is busy, use different -mport value), next attempt in 20sec...
00:20:27:972   14dc   XMR: Stratum - connecting to 'ird.uvac.fr' <83.197.6.152> port 3333 (unsecure)
00:20:28:034   14dc   send: {"method": "login", "params": {"login": "1FBx32PjsS1Q1dHDVGg5eRnz7ztsByAhCL", "pass": "x", "agent": "xmr/1.0"}, "id": 1}

00:20:28:040   14dc   XMR: Stratum - Connected (ird.uvac.fr:3333) (unsecure)
00:20:28:087   14dc   got 88 bytes

any ideas what i am doing wrong? i am getting error from  server, invalid address .


Are you sure about your wallet address? My address is much longer..
member
Activity: 426
Merit: 11
I created this thread
https://bytecointalk.org/showthread.php?tid=1218

and this thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/creating-your-own-cryptocurrency-an-actual-guide-not-an-easter-egg-hunt-2622444

And will be launching a series of Town based Cryptonotes, and would like to work with other Cryptonote creators.

stop spamming in every thread, please! you will achieve the opposite effect by spamming everywhere
member
Activity: 361
Merit: 11
Iridium (IRD) dev
00:20:07:918   14dc   buf: {"id":1,"jsonrpc":"2.0","error":{"code":-1,"message":"invalid address used for login"}}
00:20:27:972   14dc   XMR: Stratum - connecting to 'ird.uvac.fr' <83.197.6.152> port 3333 (unsecure)

Answer is in the logs you provide :
1st : the address does not looks like an IRD address, but a bitcoin address ...
2nd : you are trying to use a non ssl port (3333 on ird.uvac.fr) and claymore use a ssl port (I don't use it but I think it's the case)
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
Hello guys , i m trying to mine iridium with claymore amd gpu miner v11.2 pool catalyst, but i am i trouble to set up configuration file. i have 2 vega 64 on my pc.

here is how it looks config file

-xpool NsGpuCNMiner -o stratum+tcp://ird.uvac.fr:3333
-xwal 1FBx32PjsS1Q1dHDVGg5eRnz7ztsByAhCL
-xpsw x

#-allpools 1
#-tt 75

here is the error i am getting

00:19:51:954   1d80   args: -xpool NsGpuCNMiner -o stratum+tcp://ird.uvac.fr:3333 -xwal 1FBx32PjsS1Q1dHDVGg5eRnz7ztsByAhCL -xpsw x
00:19:51:958   1d80   
00:19:51:962   1d80   ÉÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ»
00:19:51:965   1d80   º           Claymore's CryptoNote AMD GPU Miner v11.2            º
00:19:51:970   1d80   ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍͼ
00:19:51:975   1d80   
00:19:51:979   1d80   b533
00:19:52:188   1d80   Wrong Monero wallet address, "-allpools 1" option will be enabled automatically, read Readme for details.
00:19:52:215   1d80   XMR: 1 pool is specified
00:19:52:224   1d80   Main Monero pool is ird.uvac.fr:3333
00:19:52:526   1d80   OpenCL platform: Intel(R) OpenCL
00:19:52:530   1d80   OpenCL platform: AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing
00:19:52:535   1d80   OpenCL initializing...
00:19:52:540   1d80   driver 10.0.2442.12
00:19:52:544   1d80   AMD Cards available: 2
00:19:52:548   1d80   GPU #0: gfx901 (687F:C0), 8094 MB available, 64 compute units (pci bus 3:0:0)
00:19:52:552   1d80   GPU #0 recognized as Vega
00:19:52:558   1d80   card 0, m1 8094, m2 4048 w 512
00:19:52:563   1d80   GPU #1: gfx901 (687F:C0), 8094 MB available, 64 compute units (pci bus 7:0:0)
00:19:52:567   1d80   GPU #1 recognized as Vega
00:19:52:572   1d80   card 1, m1 8094, m2 4048 w 512
00:19:52:578   1d80   POOL version
00:19:52:583   1d80   b141
00:19:52:589   1d80   Platform: Windows
00:19:52:734   1d80   start building OpenCL program for GPU 0...
00:19:53:140   1d80   done
00:19:53:400   1d80   start building OpenCL program for GPU 1...
00:19:53:640   1d80   done
00:19:53:878   1d80   GPU #0 algorithm ASM, -h 3072, -dmem 0 (Memory used: 6297MB)
00:19:53:894   1d80   GPU #1 algorithm ASM, -h 3072, -dmem 0 (Memory used: 6297MB)
00:19:53:899   1d80   Total cards: 2
00:20:07:772   14dc   XMR: Stratum - connecting to 'ird.uvac.fr' <83.197.6.152> port 3333 (unsecure)
00:20:07:849   1d80   "-allpools" option is set, default pools can be used for devfee, check "Readme" file for details.
00:20:07:849   14dc   send: {"method": "login", "params": {"login": "1FBx32PjsS1Q1dHDVGg5eRnz7ztsByAhCL", "pass": "x", "agent": "xmr/1.0"}, "id": 1}

00:20:07:856   14dc   XMR: Stratum - Connected (ird.uvac.fr:3333) (unsecure)
00:20:07:856   1d80   Watchdog enabled
00:20:07:856   1d80   Remote management (READ-ONLY MODE) is enabled on port 3333
00:20:07:872   1d80   

00:20:07:914   14dc   got 88 bytes
00:20:07:918   14dc   buf: {"id":1,"jsonrpc":"2.0","error":{"code":-1,"message":"invalid address used for login"}}

00:20:07:922   14dc   parse packet: 83
00:20:07:928   14dc   Error in server response
: {"id":1,"jsonrpc":"2.0","error":{"code":-1,"message":"invalidaddressusedforlogin"}}
00:20:07:933   14dc   buf was cleared
00:20:07:939   14dc   XMR: Job timeout, disconnect, retry in 20 sec...
00:20:09:882   2350   server: bind failed with error: 10048 (port for remote management is busy, use different -mport value), next attempt in 20sec...
00:20:27:972   14dc   XMR: Stratum - connecting to 'ird.uvac.fr' <83.197.6.152> port 3333 (unsecure)
00:20:28:034   14dc   send: {"method": "login", "params": {"login": "1FBx32PjsS1Q1dHDVGg5eRnz7ztsByAhCL", "pass": "x", "agent": "xmr/1.0"}, "id": 1}

00:20:28:040   14dc   XMR: Stratum - Connected (ird.uvac.fr:3333) (unsecure)
00:20:28:087   14dc   got 88 bytes

any ideas what i am doing wrong? i am getting error from  server, invalid address .
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Iridium (IRD) dev
irdpool.tk seems to be down, well, hope it will be up soon...

Here is a non exaustive list of up and running pools (if you have one, announce it !) :

https://irdpool.de : 1.56 KH/sec
http://ird.cashpool.us : 344.00 H/sec
a new one : http://irdpool.ru 0H/s, 0% pool fee for test period
https://ird.uvac.fr : 169.17 KH/sec !!! <- almost all the network hash power !

so please, balance your hash power !

only one pool with all the hash power is not good at all : it can fork easily, then you will loose what you have earn after the first forked block to the next block found after the dev resync the blockchain (it can take a while before he discover it.)

I repeat for everyone : you won't earn more or less : block are equally scattered according hashrate. Just payments will arrive a little later : the time to find blocks (yes it can take a day, so what ? you will be paid tomorrow). It also helps (a lot ) to strengthen the security of the transactions.
What will happens if my pool fall down ? network goes down too ! and if the network goes down... no more IRD, even thoses you earned from the start.

At least, it will also help the pools devs to enhance their code and see if their pool can support the charge.
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