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Topic: [ANN] Lina.Review | Community-Driven Review Platform | TGE Event 15th Jan - page 27. (Read 23691 times)

sr. member
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If there is someone that could answer all our questions it would be much easier for us to understand how the system will resolve the issue,but it seems that the developers and moderators are too busy to answer our quesrions  Roll Eyes

I agreed on you to that mate, but sad to say for now all of them are too busy, they ignored all the concern question of their community as of the moment dude. That's why if you will notice the community itself is the also answering some of the question of this project base on their whitepaper actually.
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It should some some positive and negative trust like what we have in bitcointalk.org so that people might know that those helpers are legit and not selling their reviews,so that the system wont be that easy to crack,because these greedy people will always find there way to make money.

You may have a point on this one mate, but I think those people that who are greed will no longer be disappear in any form of business, especially in this type of business isn't right? So the better way for us to avoid this things is we must be careful in everything we choose to be involve in any project like this one.

I think this is possible, we really are waiting to see what Lina.review platform will look like and how will it function. I hope I can participate in the testing of Lina.review.

As what you have stated those are the factors why lina project was being developed, the negative and positive feedbacks are already given and the greedy people is also present but in lina review we can filter and confirm the reviews of people who are legit reviewee from fake reviewees.

After the end of the ICO we can try the progress of this project, lina will surely hire and carefully looking for the best reviewers so that their project will be successful and looking for those people who need it.

Who can be considered as best reviewer? Who can be considered as expert? If they outsource them or hire those with experience in the review industry, they might incur it as excessive expense.

The best reviewer is not only those who have experience in review industry but also those who know a lot about the product, the one that willing to tell all qualities that the product have, willing to reveal the truth, the transparency of the product.
newbie
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Because of the Internet, People now rely on review sites before they decide to buy the offered product or services of a company. It helps us to decide which is worth to buy or not. Product/Services review is very important to a certain business because it helps build their reputation and helps them to improve more.

i agree on this comment. reviews that we see in the products or services is a big influence for us consumers whether what we want is a quality products that will exceed our expectations. but nowadays reviews is made-up or fake simply because some online businesses build the brand image base on the reviews that they put in their products. online businesses is booming right now so we should rely on a project like Lina.Review that can give us transparent and trusted reviews.

I agree. An online store is becoming popular because shopping on the internet is convenient, quick and can do it anywhere. But we should be very extra careful purchasing online that is why it would be very helpful for us if product reviews are can be trusted. We know many online sellers are making fake reviews on their site. These are unacceptable.

Online purchase has a high risk actually, and most of the online shop are not quality in terms of their product it is only looks in the picture but once it has been deliver to you, it will surely you will get disappoint on their services, this was commonly happened in an online shopping  but majority not all.


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the frequency with which users read online reviews are often proportional to the frequency with which they shop online. About two-thirds (67%) of weekly online shoppers said they usually read online reviews before making decision. That figure for monthly online shoppers is 54%

Online reviews are important, esp. to online shops and to online shoppers. Lina can target online shops as merchants.
sr. member
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Lina.review will give users transparent and trustful reviews that will avoid companies hide bad reviews. Lina.review will give experts (helpers) a portion of advertising revenue in order for them to be motivated to maintain a quality review. This will help common users before making a decision.
Transparency actually is one of the most important matter for me of Lina.review project, because of this things you will feel the sincerity of their goal and target to help the community in this industry. However, In the review industry, reviews of the experts play a decisive role. Expert reviews are usually written by reputable experts who have tried and tested products and services to find the best value for money according to them.
jr. member
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Specifically, for the system Lina.review, the common users will not receive system revenue for their review and assessment. With other review systems running on the Lina blockchain platform, the revenue sharing for the user shall depend on each configuration.

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In order to receive token rewards, users will need to register valid addresses to receive LINA tokens.

What are token rewards? Will that be for helpers? How would revenue sharing work?
newbie
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Merchants are the parties providing the products or services

Does this mean like for movies, free movie premiere tickets? or free hotel stay? or free gourmet experience? Who wouldn't want to be a helper?

There are no freebies! to be a helper will be undergone in so much trouble, you need to have a good background first with reviews online.
to be this on the team is not a freeman, you need to prove yourself to be worth one of them.

WP explains merchants as business owners who will put their products on lina.

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This is an example walk-through of a bid for advertising request from a Merchant and the reward sharing flows:
1. The Merchant places a new product review request or a new advertising campaign bid on the Lina.review website by providing campaign details (links, conversion goals, …), for example 1000 clicks at the price of 1000 LINA (1 LINA per click).

You can't provide a movie review if you just base it on watching the trailer. Same with other products and services, for hotels, I can't say it was clean and service was good if I didn't check in, in restaurants, it should be about the food. Magazine journalists and bloggers get something, merchants get advertised in return.

That would really depend on the product/service the merchant is offering. Movie reviews don't work like that since people all over the world pay to watch movies, and some of them submit their rating on review sites. The same applies to hotels, restaurants and others, people avail of them first and create a review. Specifically for the merchants of lina, I believe that the "providing" part means indicating so that it would appear on the ad.

For the advertisements, both users and helpers can click on the link. Assuming that regular users are the ones who actually do purchases or avail services first and then write up a review, for helpers, if they're gonna do it as a job, they would need to test the product or avail the service. They probably won't be able to meet their required number of quality reviews if that's the case, or they will just be making fictional reviews based on fictional experiences about products and services. Merchants should provide to helpers since 1. Helpers review are listed separately/ it would be like an advertisement and 2. Helpers got this as a job, which mean they are expert and can provide the best review and constructive criticism as well as points for improvement.

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The Helper will be entitled to receive a substantial portion of the advertising revenue or registration fee (up to 50%) depending on their fields. The above-mentioned parameter is only applied to Lina.review, and that of other Lina blockchain based review systems could configure their own incentive and revenue sharing policies.

For lina review they will earn depending on their fields, e.g.
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Helper: 50% depending on industries. For example, if advertising revenue comes mostly from car manufacturers, Helper in the field of automobile will be distributed more. This does not mean that Helpers in the field that have no advertising revenue will not be shared, it is just that they are given less tokens.

For this, it would be substantial, meaning it would be enough for the helper. For other configurations, they probably should make it high enough to motivate helpers on providing good reviews.
jr. member
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It should some some positive and negative trust like what we have in bitcointalk.org so that people might know that those helpers are legit and not selling their reviews,so that the system wont be that easy to crack,because these greedy people will always find there way to make money.

You may have a point on this one mate, but I think those people that who are greed will no longer be disappear in any form of business, especially in this type of business isn't right? So the better way for us to avoid this things is we must be careful in everything we choose to be involve in any project like this one.

I think this is possible, we really are waiting to see what Lina.review platform will look like and how will it function. I hope I can participate in the testing of Lina.review.

As what you have stated those are the factors why lina project was being developed, the negative and positive feedbacks are already given and the greedy people is also present but in lina review we can filter and confirm the reviews of people who are legit reviewee from fake reviewees.

After the end of the ICO we can try the progress of this project, lina will surely hire and carefully looking for the best reviewers so that their project will be successful and looking for those people who need it.

Who can be considered as best reviewer? Who can be considered as expert? If they outsource them or hire those with experience in the review industry, they might incur it as excessive expense.
sr. member
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Can anyone explain to me the value of online product review? Its just some kind of hard things to me to understand it anyway.
Though some of their goal target I understood anyhow. Thanks for this concern who will answer my question.
member
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Any update on the project? It seems the developer is not showing up in this thread. Some questions still remained questions. I hope Lina is not one of those ICOs that flew by night when after getting investors’ money.  Smiley

You may check their fb lina review there a some updates regarding the develoment of their coin. They also had talk in Vietmam and they have some press release in Geneva and Switzerland. I agree with you, it’s much better if the dev is also active here.
newbie
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Any update on the project? It seems the developer is not showing up in this thread. Some questions still remained questions. I hope Lina is not one of those ICOs that flew by night when after getting investors’ money.  Smiley

Let us give them more time for this, they might be busy doing something better for the project they want to build.
I have witnessed some project that are so quite and people started to doubt them because of that,
but at the end, because of their brilliant job, they turned the ICO sold-out. so lets wait for them. though i hope they are not so quite like this.
looking forward for a telegram group soon.

Developing stuff is difficult. They shouldn't release something if it will just be buggy. The thing we expect would be the lina smart contract, lina review prototype.
jr. member
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I just want to quote something in LInA Whitepaper (for clarification)

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This is an example walk-through of a bid for advertising request from a Merchant and the reward sharing flows: (page 18)

7. Whenever a user clicks submit a review, the review details will be recorded on the Lina Core private blockchain. Note that the review could be subject to being approved by Lina.review staff or by votes from Helpers.

This is the statement that I just want to be clear.  Based on my understanding, a common/ordinary user can also make a review through LInA review system but the question is, why it should be approved by the LInA staff or need votes from the Helpers? And what will happen to the disapproved reviews? Will the LInA staff delete this review or put it in a trash?

I believe that these actions are just a precautionary measure to filter those irrelevant or non-sense reviews. We are talking about “quality” reviews here so I think there’s a filtering happening on the LInA Core Private Blockchain. Does this affect the transparency feature that LInA wants to promote?

Give me your views.
Users are ordinary individuals who just had experienced using the services of products being advertised. They are not the official reviewers which they call helpers. Most of the helpers were former users that been promoted to helpers and they are one of those who will filter the reviews made by ordinary users. In my opinion, transparency means whether it be negative or positive it should be posted.


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Note that the review could be subject to being approved by Lina.review staff or by votes from Helpers.

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Common users mean ...
...review and assessment work, depending on configuration.

That's just an example. We can't make assumptions unless we use the real thing. Could be and depending on configuration are the holes that can't be filled unless the system is up and made concrete esp. for lina review. For other future review systems made on the platform would depend a lot on configuration as well. Nothing concrete.
hero member
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Any update on the project? It seems the developer is not showing up in this thread. Some questions still remained questions. I hope Lina is not one of those ICOs that flew by night when after getting investors’ money.  Smiley

Let us give them more time for this, they might be busy doing something better for the project they want to build.
I have witnessed some project that are so quite and people started to doubt them because of that,
but at the end, because of their brilliant job, they turned the ICO sold-out. so lets wait for them. though i hope they are not so quite like this.
looking forward for a telegram group soon.
sr. member
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Not going to be an easy job to remove the biased reviews,because there will always be some people who will take advantage the whole system.

Reviews are very subjective. It would side on the reviewers preferences. What lina aims is to motivate reviewers by being able to earn profit on the reviews they are making, and also to eliminate unfair/unjust reviews by creating review templates with many criteria per subject so that when making a review, they would have to account for those criteria.

Review according to their whitepaper is the evaluation or description of users experience upon the use of a product or service.
Where Lina.review was being created for this matter to produce the best possible transparency and create conditions for reviewers to benefit from providing quality reviews.
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To LINA project and its TEAM!
If the reviews can be paid to do fake ratings for those products and some related thing in your platform, how can people and readers be assured that you are being transparent too? Sorry for the words and Q, but let us be real even MAINSTREAM MEDIA and reporters are being paid to be BIAS!

I agree with you that there are certain group of reviewers who are paid to give positive review because it is sponsored, but tgere are also people who’s job is to give honest reviews to the product they used because they care for their credebility specially when they have many followers.

The group of reviewers who's giving such fake reviews are not welcome in the lina review project because the lina project only hired those people who are only professional and experts in giving reviews.

I agree on you Genosx that they will hire a helper who's professional and expert on reviews but there is another option where a non-pro or common user of  Lina.review that can be a helper through getting a lot of published review and widely accepted by many people who is using the platform. It can be a downfall of the review if these kind of helper got a chance to make some fake review and abuse their power to make fraud or under the table review in Lina's platform.

Even so you are a qualified helper to the site/platform you can be easily demoted if you fail to submit a certain number of reviews with an acceptable quality and it is based on the number of likes and agree's of the user in lina.review. I think when you are a paid reviewer or you do a fake review you can easily be remove from the team when the people doesn't agree on your review. Just not giving a thumbs up or agree can easily out thrown you in your helper position. Correct me if I'm wrong i've just read this on their whitepaper.

Your speculation of some of your statement was quite true in reality, then if you are going to check and read it to their WP,  being a helper is not just an easy position hear due to you are also quick to be demote if you fail to submit their requirements about it. Therefore, the task must be constructive as well as a helper, isn't right?
Yes, and the helper is the main concern of all reviewing product, they need to gave more time and effort to reveal the truth and nothing but the truth of the product if they really want their job as a helper.
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What are the best criteria to choose a helper for LINA.REVIEW??

DO they need to be financially stable so corruption can be limited?
Do they need to be popular people so the community will trust them more?
Do they need NOT to be an owner of any company or product for the review not to be biased?

DO helpers really be that efficient in making reviews for the company to stay transparent? Or this will be another money market?
Helpers need only one characteristics, that is being honest. Even a financial stable can be a corrupt if they want, even the popular person can be dishonest, and even without company of any product can be bias if the money is involved, the lina review need to have is an honest helper because no matter what is their status in life if they really honest doing a review to the product, the transparency may occur.
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Merchants are the parties providing the products or services

Does this mean like for movies, free movie premiere tickets? or free hotel stay? or free gourmet experience? Who wouldn't want to be a helper?
Helpers are those who are hired by Lina to make the reviews for the advertisers or merchants. They are paid so i think there will be more applicants to be employed as helpers.

Helpers are the qualified users who are being paid from advertising revenue (up to 50%) to post quality reviews. If they didn't post a quality review within two months. I think they will be demoted.





I see that if they don’t post quality reviews the helpers will be demoted if they are not active helpers, I thinks that’s good for them to maintain ghe quality of the reviews in lina site. I just wonder where do they base quality post? Do they based it with the positive post? Do they have standards about quality post?

I think they have a standard basis in their post to make it qualify to the review, but the good thing is that they only show the real, the transparency of every product that need to review.
newbie
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Any update on the project? It seems the developer is not showing up in this thread. Some questions still remained questions. I hope Lina is not one of those ICOs that flew by night when after getting investors’ money.  Smiley
sr. member
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What a great project,advertiser/merchants will be the main beneficiaries of this decentralized reviews,10% of advertising revenue will be put the whole system? so that the website will have something to pay those helpers so that these people wont need to sell their reviews to these brands or products.
Yeah you are right ,that should be the fees will go thru,to pay those people who are giving reviews to the products/services that these brands wants to get reviewed.So there will be no one that will sell their reviews? because they are already making money with just reviews.

Those experts should be examined very well so there will be no biased/paid reviews in the website.

Politicians and other government employee have high salary and pay roll, though they still corrupt the country they are serving, this can be apply with LINA.REVIEW!
Yes they have payment and budget for helpers, but what will happen if some company that want the best review for their business or product pay some helpers 2 years of their salary in just 1 review?
As far as I know, lina review will focus in the service of the firms and company, not in the government. And I think it is hard to integrate reviews in politics since we all know that the politicians don't have the plan to drop their position in just a matter of review.

Based on my own understanding the lina review is not connected in any political reviews because the focus of this project is to give reviews of the products and services of the said company.

The reviews will be reviewed, if a helper's reviews are not consistent, the helper will be demoted.

Correct mate, meaning the helper will be evaluate by the helper board about their task as a helper because if they fail they will become like an ordinary common users.
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What are the best criteria to choose a helper for LINA.REVIEW??

DO they need to be financially stable so corruption can be limited?
Do they need to be popular people so the community will trust them more?
Do they need NOT to be an owner of any company or product for the review not to be biased?

DO helpers really be that efficient in making reviews for the company to stay transparent? Or this will be another money market?
They need to be real users first for them to really say something legit about the products or services being advertised. If they’ve not been real users i doubt their reviews will be credible even.
sr. member
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It came across my mind,too, about the bribery to the helpers.How can Lina prevent helpers from getting involve with such acts and stay committed to giving quality and reliable reviews?

It can easily identify and those HELPERS doing that will immediately gone! Team will not tolerate this one, they have many people to do the job and a mistake can easily pointed out.

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There is a zero percent where LINA.REVIEW will accept money just for the bias review as they are looking for success of the future,

100 percent agree on this as this LINA.REVIEW is eyeing more for better future, and they are having a big project on ICO now!

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The usual option for the users in today's review system is just "Good" or "Not good". And we cannot see it as accurate since people have different criteria when it comes to rating. What's good about Lina.review, there are different criteria per subject to be reviewed. So the satisfaction or dissatisfaction of the user is specific and obtained fairly.

OF course, review is just good and not good facts on it, but this project will be literally good and will review every corner of the box and not just a simple essay to publish.

How can you say that this project is good? none of the team actually are not showing up an updates about this project like what other's  said even the developers itself is not accommodating of some of the question on this forum? its not because you said its good it means really good of course not! We must face the reality things happen now mate,..open your eyes, though there is a possibility that they will update their community here after the ico project.
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