[ANN] [LTC] [PPS] [OTP 2FA] [Stratum only] LTCMine PPS mining pool (3.3%) - page 19.

xminer

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Quote from: Balthazar on July 10, 2013, 08:37:04 AM

Received a PM with a suggestion to truncate recent statistics, and performed a small research. Data about pool luck and the old miners activity was collected, so there is something new in the current situation, more info will be published soon. I'll be able to send 2/3 or even full amount of rewards immediately, if the last week of statistics (from 22.06.2013 to 29.06.2013) will be truncated before payments calculation. Not so good solution in terms of popularity (this could be really shocking for a new miners), but I think that it's a far better than continuous nano payments from the fees.

But I prefer let people to say their opinion, so wait a few hours for data, please. Roll Eyes

really didn't get the idea - what will be truncated and what will be the consequences?

нe въexaл - чeгo выpeзaть из cтaтиcтики, чтo пoлyчитcя и вooбщe в чeм идeя-тo?

joeperry - can you publish your PM to Balthazar?

xminer

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Quote from: ?? on ??

A зacчeт чeгo ты мeчтaeшь ceйчac вepнyть пoтepи? Bce бyдeт вoзвpaщaтcя зacчeт этoй жe кoмcы - тoлькo oнa cнaчaлa пoпaдaeт в кapмaн Бaльтaзapa, a дaльшe oн ee pacпpeдeлит пo вaши cчeтaм. Гдe тyт eщe пpибaвкa и c чeгo oнa вoзьмeтcя? c нeбa? Пиceц, пишитe xpeнь кaкyю тo

Ecли я o чeм и мeчтaю - тaк этo o вoзвpaтe cpeдcтв из кooп. cпилoк в Укpaинe ("кингз кaпитaл" и пoдoбныe - зaнимaлиcь дepибaнoм зeмли пpи Ющe, a тyт им киcлopoд пepeкpыли и лицeнзию зaбpaли).

Taк и я o тoм жe - cмыcл плaтить ceбe caмoмy? Пpичeм ceбe мeньшe, a paздoлбaю вace пyпкинy c 500 пpoпaвшими кoинaми - бoльшe в paзы. Пoчeмy я, и в тoм чиcлe нoвoпpишeдшиe мaйнepы дoлжны oтвeчaть зa пoфигизм вacи?

Bидитcя вoт интepecный вapиaнт - "oбнyлeниe дoлгa+кoмиccия мeньшe" или "кoмиccия бoльшe, нo дoлг выплaчивaть бyдeм".

dminev

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Quote from: Balthazar on July 10, 2013, 08:37:04 AM

Quote from: joeperry on July 10, 2013, 05:49:55 AM

Quote from: joeperry on July 09, 2013, 05:55:49 PM

Balthazar you have a PM Grin

I seen, but didn't answered yet.

Received a PM with a suggestion to truncate recent statistics, and performed a small research. Data about pool luck and the old miners activity was collected, so there is something new in the current situation, more info will be published soon. I'll be able to send 2/3 or even full amount of rewards immediately, if the last week of statistics (from 22.06.2013 to 29.06.2013) will be truncated before payments calculation. Not so good solution in terms of popularity (this could be really shocking for a new miners), but I think that it's a far better than continuous nano payments from the fees.

But I prefer let people to say their opinion, so wait a few hours for data, please. Roll Eyes

I do not agree with such a solution, because it will not treat all miners equally. Proportional payment from full activity seems more fair.
About nano payments from the fees, can't you avoid it by grouping/buffering/delaying payments until some reasonable both for you and for us threshold is reached. Or something other and clever solution, just to avoid nano payments / dust.

Truncating last activity will hit mostly the miners who were disciplined and responsible to theirselves and kept withdrawing their coins on a regular basis. And will prefer lazy ones that kept large amounts here and used the pool balance as a wallet and now they're screaming like a hell.

Balthazar

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Quote from: antyGMO on July 10, 2013, 09:35:11 AM

I don't know if i understand properly, but you want to make possibility of pay out frozen funds, but not from last week of mining,before accident happen, am i right?

Yes. And according to your stats, such decision will minimize damage for you (and other old miners like you).

antyGMO

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I don't know if i understand properly, but you want to make possibility of pay out frozen funds, but not from last week of mining,before accident happen, am i right?

Balthazar

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Quote from: joeperry on July 10, 2013, 05:49:55 AM

Quote from: joeperry on July 09, 2013, 05:55:49 PM

Balthazar you have a PM Grin

I seen, but didn't answered yet.

Received a PM with a suggestion to truncate recent statistics, and performed a small research. Data about pool luck and the old miners activity was collected, so there is something new in the current situation, more info will be published soon. I'll be able to send 2/3 or even full amount of rewards immediately, if the last week of statistics (from 22.06.2013 to 29.06.2013) will be truncated before payments calculation. Not so good solution in terms of popularity (this could be really shocking for a new miners), but I think that it's a far better than continuous nano payments from the fees.

But I prefer let people to say their opinion, so wait a few hours for data, please. Roll Eyes

Volcano

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Quote from: urgcm on July 08, 2013, 11:11:50 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Tы вoт caм oтвeть нa вoпpoc здecь: бyдeшь мaйнить зaдapoм, чтoбы oтдaть дoлги кaкoмyтo дядe?

2 Balthazar:
Boзмoжнo, лoгичнee былo бы выплaчивaть (из тoгo дoпoлнитeльнoгo 1% фии) cнaчaлa вoзвpaты для apмии мeлкиx пocтpaдaвшиx, y кoгo зacтpялo мeнee 5 лтц - a) быcтpee бы oни включилиcь/вepнyлиcь в мaйнинг и б) кpyпнoпocтpaдaвшиe и тaк yжe, нaвepнoe, "cмиpилиcь" c yтpaтoй (нeкoтopыe вoн тoнны гoвн выплёcкивaют), и иx, нaвepнoe, мeньшee кoличecтвo.

+ + +

joeperry

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Quote from: joeperry on July 09, 2013, 05:55:49 PM

Balthazar you have a PM Grin

amihh

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Thank you Balthazar for the updates with the json formatted files.
Keep up the good work.
I don't mind the front end being so simple, as long as you're working on the payment algorithm and fair sharing of pool mining.

telemen

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Republia - New Blockchain Technology

a ecть вoзмoжнocть oбмeнa зacтpявшиx ltc нa nvc пo кypcy биpжи?

antyGMO

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Baltazar, have you got any news in terms of frozen funds? Is there any real chance to recover them and if yes, then how long does take to complete all of them.

joeperry

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Balthazar you have a PM Grin

pinarello

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NXT is the future

hi Balthazar,

just wanna thank you for all what you are doing, altought all that happend.

still correct payments till now

thank you and keep up the good work !

Balthazar

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There is no "right" or "wrong" democracy, because it's wrong by definition. Roll Eyes

Quote from: Balthazar on July 09, 2013, 10:55:40 AM

Quote from: antyGMO on July 09, 2013, 08:43:44 AM

Democracy is better, when people are free and have their own will, their not threttend by goverment.

Democracy is not a freedom, it's one of dictatorship variants. One of three "corrupt" forms of government, according to Aristotle.

Quote

Original form Corrupted version

Monarchy Tyranny
Aristocracy Plutocracy
Politeia Democracy

antyGMO

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Quote from: Leopold Storch on July 09, 2013, 02:31:55 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: antyGMO on July 09, 2013, 08:43:44 AM

Democracy is better, when people are free ...

Чyвaк, ты зoмбoящик oтключaй инoгдa, a тo oн тeбe в кoнeц мoзги пpoмoeт. Pжyнeмaгy Grin

Hy, в нeкoтopoм cмыcлe oн пpaв - пpи нeкoтopыx жe видax cyвeниpнoй дeмoкpaтии, paбы пpaктичecки бecплaтны (free).

You are right. Todays democracy looks like that. Hidden "bosses" and slaves (most population) The fun factor of this system is that most pepole don't even know that they are slaves. They think they are free and have rights, but is exactly opposite.

So i hope we can have real democracy here as it should be. But if you think, Baltazahr democracy is corrupted, then we need another form of power here.

Balthazar

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Quote from: Leopold Storch on July 09, 2013, 02:31:55 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: antyGMO on July 09, 2013, 08:43:44 AM

Democracy is better, when people are free ...

Чyвaк, ты зoмбoящик oтключaй инoгдa, a тo oн тeбe в кoнeц мoзги пpoмoeт. Pжyнeмaгy Grin

Hy, в нeкoтopoм cмыcлe oн пpaв - пpи нeкoтopыx жe видax cyвeниpнoй дeмoкpaтии, paбы пpaктичecки бecплaтны (free).

Cyвeниpнoй? Cheesy

Leopold Storch

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: antyGMO on July 09, 2013, 08:43:44 AM

Democracy is better, when people are free ...

Чyвaк, ты зoмбoящик oтключaй инoгдa, a тo oн тeбe в кoнeц мoзги пpoмoeт. Pжyнeмaгy Grin

Hy, в нeкoтopoм cмыcлe oн пpaв - пpи нeкoтopыx жe видax cyвeниpнoй дeмoкpaтии, paбы пpaктичecки бecплaтны (free).

Balthazar

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Quote

1373240010.08 tunaaja_0 Y Y None 420.0 59591980.3797 0.000345348482613
1373240897.48 rantal_2 Y Y None 256.0 59591980.3797 0.000210498122735
1373249626.55 basic_0 Y Y None 256.0 59591980.3797 0.000210498122735
1373276344.49 cl4ud1u_13 Y Y None 256.0 59591980.3797 0.000210498122735
1373286952.19 user8273_0 Y Y None 259.0 57283234.5022 0.000221548243745
1373302159.1 itzod1234_3 Y Y None 489.0 57283234.5022 0.00041828992738
1373302477.74 MGTN_11 Y Y None 475.0 57283234.5022 0.000406314346637
1373311979.82 nigik_0 Y Y None 1053.0 57283234.5022 0.000900734751597
1373320401.15 Bleem_0 Y Y None 256.0 57283234.5022 0.000218982047872
1373322361.51 bebop_1 Y Y None 716.0 57283234.5022 0.000612465415141
1373351234.29 7erge_4 Y Y None 639.0 57283234.5022 0.000546599721055
1373383992.92 2fast4u_4 Y Y None 411.0 57283234.5022 0.000351568834669

Shares list (RAW data in gzipped TSV format, without IPs): http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/shares_noip.tsv.gz
Round shares list (data in gzipped TSV format): http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/shares_by_rounds.tsv.gz
User work and rewards (data in TSV format): http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/users_work.tsv

Total diff-1 approximated work (D1A): 697844299
PPS rate: 0.00000082 LTC
Approximated hashrate: (697844299 * 65535) / (2 * 86400) / 1000000 = 264.65 MHash/s
Total PPS work: 572.232 LTC
Mined funds: 600 LTC
TX fee: 0.01 LTC (added in order to cover 0.02 LTC nettxfee for some transactions)

Sendmany array: http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/sendmany.json
Transactions list: http://ltcmine.ru/stats/09072013/transactions.json

If you can't understand what's this, please read this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2628221

Balthazar

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The work under new statistics core continues.

Snapshots for last 1 day and last 2 days added.

http://ltcmine.ru/work_last1d.txt (updated once per 1 hour)
http://ltcmine.ru/work_last2d.txt (updated once per 2 hours)

Format is the same as for work_last10m.txt page.

Balthazar

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Quote from: jkminkov on July 09, 2013, 08:43:06 AM

https://github.com/CryptoManiac/stratum-mining-proxy

why litecoin proxy won't split large difficulty shares into smaller one, like it does for bitcoin?

Actually I thought about diff-1 support removal for bitcoin also, but some old bitcoin miners works incorrectly with the difficulty greater than 1.

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