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Topic: [ANN] Mellow Ads - simple, bitcoin advertising. Network/CPM/CPC. Free faucet! - page 54. (Read 82568 times)

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It's easy to see where traffic comes from. And you won't have to avoid them -- if you don't have a successful site, you won't be approached by them regardless, :p.

As for opening a page 10-50x... if the same person is looking at the same 50 pages every single day, that's pretty obvious. If someone comes each day and views 10 different pages, that's normalcy.

Anyways, I was just sharing how the real world works. Though I guess things are a bit different if we're in a sub-sector that is sub-par in terms of quality/traffic.

Edit: some require ComScore tags to be added, which is an easy way for the network to see traffic data, as well as pass it off to advertisers.
Yes it could be partly tracked and controlled, but if it's not completely automatic it would need at least one worker to constantly check the traffic.
The point is, that even if it's automatic (for which you can always argue about the fairnes of the algorithms), for example there are faucet visitors that visit your page 100 times a day and may never be interested in your ad. Multiply them by 100-1000+ and you will just be throwing your money away if you want to advertise for every non-unique view.

I know that's how the real world works now, but why not improve for the better way of advertising? Advertising is very expensive and ineffective today.

None of these networks would take faucets. Even AdSense will ban faucet owners before they get paid. Completely different animal here. I thought we were talking about actual websites -- not one-page borderline scam sites.

And advertising is still VERY much effective. I don't know where you're getting your data from but it's completely untrue.
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It's easy to see where traffic comes from. And you won't have to avoid them -- if you don't have a successful site, you won't be approached by them regardless, :p.

As for opening a page 10-50x... if the same person is looking at the same 50 pages every single day, that's pretty obvious. If someone comes each day and views 10 different pages, that's normalcy.

Anyways, I was just sharing how the real world works. Though I guess things are a bit different if we're in a sub-sector that is sub-par in terms of quality/traffic.

Edit: some require ComScore tags to be added, which is an easy way for the network to see traffic data, as well as pass it off to advertisers.
Yes it could be partly tracked and controlled, but if it's not completely automatic it would need at least one worker to constantly check the traffic.
The point is, that even if it's automatic (for which you can always argue about the fairnes of the algorithms), for example there are faucet visitors that visit your page 100 times a day and may never be interested in your ad. Multiply them by 100-1000+ and you will just be throwing your money away if you want to advertise for every non-unique view.

I know that's how the real world works now, but why not improve for the better way of advertising? Advertising is very expensive and ineffective today.
legendary
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I really don't like it being based on uniques. That kills the point of building more views. I deal with some high-end advertising networks and have never had one that only bases it on uniques. That said, they do analyze where traffic comes from (so people faking traffic would obviously be banned).
Did they say how do they do this? What if I open pages 10 or 50 times, will they ban me even if I was just looking through the site? Which are these "high end" adv. networks, so we know to avoid them lol

It's easy to see where traffic comes from. And you won't have to avoid them -- if you don't have a successful site, you won't be approached by them regardless, :p.

As for opening a page 10-50x... if the same person is looking at the same 50 pages every single day, that's pretty obvious. If someone comes each day and views 10 different pages, that's normalcy.

Anyways, I was just sharing how the real world works. Though I guess things are a bit different if we're in a sub-sector that is sub-par in terms of quality/traffic.

Edit: some require ComScore tags to be added, which is an easy way for the network to see traffic data, as well as pass it off to advertisers.
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I really don't like it being based on uniques. That kills the point of building more views. I deal with some high-end advertising networks and have never had one that only bases it on uniques. That said, they do analyze where traffic comes from (so people faking traffic would obviously be banned).
Did they say how do they do this? What if I open pages 10 or 50 times, will they ban me even if I was just looking through the site? Which are these "high end" adv. networks, so we know to avoid them lol
legendary
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For CPM campaigns it will just be total unique views. So if say an advertiser buys 10,000 views for your ad space then they will be displayed in that ad space until their unique view count reaches 10,000 - rotated with any other CPM campaigns that are also running in that space. Depending on the publisher it may take 10 minutes or many days for to you reach that unique view count, during which time you will most likely get a significantly higher number of non-unique views too.
So I suppose they are really CPUM (cost per unique mile) campaigns rather than CPM Smiley
Yes, seems that this is the most fair way to calculate it. It's really kind of CPUM, but that's the only fair way to make the campaigns.
Looking forward for the next good news Smiley

I really don't like it being based on uniques. That kills the point of building more views. I deal with some high-end advertising networks and have never had one that only bases it on uniques. That said, they do analyze where traffic comes from (so people faking traffic would obviously be banned).
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For CPM campaigns it will just be total unique views. So if say an advertiser buys 10,000 views for your ad space then they will be displayed in that ad space until their unique view count reaches 10,000 - rotated with any other CPM campaigns that are also running in that space. Depending on the publisher it may take 10 minutes or many days for to you reach that unique view count, during which time you will most likely get a significantly higher number of non-unique views too.
So I suppose they are really CPUM (cost per unique mile) campaigns rather than CPM Smiley
Yes, seems that this is the most fair way to calculate it. It's really kind of CPUM, but that's the only fair way to make the campaigns.
Looking forward for the next good news Smiley
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Will publishers also be able to earn per CPC?
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Hope this all helps Smiley
Yes it helps Smiley
Unique views was something we considered too, but decided to go with unique clicks. People still didn't seem to notice us (or like us) as much as we hoped, but we hope that they WILL notice you. And stop paying the insane fees to other networks for providing absolutely ineffective campaigns for the advertisers. So, we really wish you good luck.

And one more question - are unique views counted on a daily basis or for the whole campaign? For example, I run a campaign 5 days, is the whole campaign supposed to be with unique clicks or every new day the old ip's could be counted again?


Thanks. We've been very happy with the response from advertisers so far, but once we get the publisher stuff done we are hoping it will take off even more. With a larger and more diverse list of publishers, attracting more advertisers and so on Smiley

Things are still not 100% nailed down for the CPM campaigns (as we have decided to give the publisher side of things priority for now) but this is the idea currently - I can't 100% promise this won't change!
For CPM campaigns it will just be total unique views. So if say an advertiser buys 10,000 views for your ad space then they will be displayed in that ad space until their unique view count reaches 10,000 - rotated with any other CPM campaigns that are also running in that space. Depending on the publisher it may take 10 minutes or many days for to you reach that unique view count, during which time you will most likely get a significantly higher number of non-unique views too.
So I suppose they are really CPUM (cost per unique mile) campaigns rather than CPM Smiley
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Any set date yet for when publisher area will be open?

We are working as hard as possible on it right now - hopefully within the next 7 days Smiley

Awesome to hear, keep up the good work
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Any set date yet for when publisher area will be open?

We are working as hard as possible on it right now - hopefully within the next 7 days Smiley
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Any set date yet for when publisher area will be open?
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Hope this all helps Smiley
Yes it helps Smiley
Unique views was something we considered too, but decided to go with unique clicks. People still didn't seem to notice us (or like us) as much as we hoped, but we hope that they WILL notice you. And stop paying the insane fees to other networks for providing absolutely ineffective campaigns for the advertisers. So, we really wish you good luck.

And one more question - are unique views counted on a daily basis or for the whole campaign? For example, I run a campaign 5 days, is the whole campaign supposed to be with unique clicks or every new day the old ip's could be counted again?
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Can't wait to try this out! It really seems way way better that the other existing networks that rob their clients with huge taxes.
If the normal campaigns tax is really 0%, and the network only 10%, we will probably make you a 5 star review in our site Smiley

I have only one concern though - are the campaigns counting total or unique views? And if they count total, how are you planning to avoid faking impressions?

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We are aiming to keep the fees as low as possible. One of the driving forces behind us building Mellow Ads is to give an alternative to the high fees that other networks charge.
As you say, CPM campaigns will be 0% fee - i.e. the publisher will get the full amount paid by the advertiser. And for network campaigns we will retain a 10% fee, and the other 90% is shared proportionally between the publishers who contribute views to the network - based on unique views. In both cases, the relevant payments will be made daily to the publishers. We will continue to be as transparent as we can with showing how this is all broken down.

With regard to your last question, CPM campaigns will be based on unique views. So the advertiser will be buying blocks of 1000 unique views at the price set by each publisher.
Having run successful faucets (Moon Bitcoin, Bitcoin Zebra) for over 12 months now, we have built some pretty solid back end algorithms and bot detection systems that are being adapted to hopefully provide good protection against faked impressions/clicks. Although we will never be able to guarantee this is 100% accurate, we are confident it will be more than good enough to give confidence to both advertisers and honest publishers that they aren't being duped.

Hope this all helps Smiley
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Maybe I didn't look hard enough but I couldn't seem to find a way to specify ad dimensions for the ads I wish to publish on my own site.

I  didn't place the ads yet due to this reason but if this function is not already in place I would suggest it.

Looks promising though and I have registered.

Hi, we haven't launched the publisher side of things yet - this will hopefully be coming next week.
Once we do, yes of course you can specify the size of ad space(s) that you wish to show on your site - we will support the 10 most common ad sizes based on IAB guidelines.
There will be more info posted on this thread once this is available Smiley
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Thanks!
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Can't wait to try this out! It really seems way way better that the other existing networks that rob their clients with huge taxes.
If the normal campaigns tax is really 0%, and the network only 10%, we will probably make you a 5 star review in our site Smiley

I have only one concern though - are the campaigns counting total or unique views? And if they count total, how are you planning to avoid faking impressions?
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