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legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
This swap will be so good. no more cryptsy coins and no more yobit. yobit still hasnt asnwered my ticket from 3/7/16. they only answer tickets if it makes them money. they can keep that 100 nav test deposit now, cause it will be worthless soon... yobit=the next cryptsy.

Remove them from the opening page. Technical support is key to running a great exchange
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
NAV Coin [NAV]
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1001
This swap will be so good. no more cryptsy coins and no more yobit. yobit still hasnt asnwered my ticket from 3/7/16. they only answer tickets if it makes them money. they can keep that 100 nav test deposit now, cause it will be worthless soon... yobit=the next cryptsy.
legendary
Activity: 2020
Merit: 1041

We strongly recommend that everyone use Bittrex as the swap mechanism. Manual swaps after the end of the Bittrex coin swap are possible but it does take us a reasonable amount of effort per swap and I'm sure you would rather we are busy working on new Nav features like the mobile wallet rather than being flooded with coin swaps to perform.


Already in contact with other exchange? They accepted?
I fear some might consider the Nav2.0 not as an evolution,
but as a new currency and put forward new requests.

In reference to the operations for manual swap, I was thinking,
do you could readjust partly your system for anonymous
transaction and use it to perform the manual swap, in "automatic"?
 
If you see it in a very abstract way, after all, these are two very
similar tasks. [1]
 
The current system anonymously sends back the transaction in input,
and the output on the same blockchain.

In that hypothetical ad hoc system for "manual swap", it would accept
the input transaction from Nav 1.0, and here it will be burned, sending
it to a (malformed) burn-address.
At the same time on blockchain NAV 2.0 would start an equivalent
transaction from your fund for the conversion, sending it to the
new true final destination.
All without any real manual intervention by your part. Smiley


In this regard, I would like your own opinion.
Could You ask to Bittrex, if they before closing their old wallet,
they can put as last command the order to burn all the old NAV,
sending everything to a burn address?

IMHO this could facilitate the accounting operations, on what has
been converted, and what was left of "live" in the old blockchain.
Or may be just a useless complication. Smiley


Now Package would make a recommendation to you, while you're in the
phase of creating the new wallet, I would urge you to bring in even
somethings that have been found useful in the old wallet, the system
synchronization of time based on NTP, and if possible to improve it
by making more stringent the control over the time, and mandatory for all.
(There are still a couple of wallet around which do not use it)

Most of all, Craig, I strongly urge you to check that the new wallet, do not
inherit the old nonlinearities that plague the old wallet.

Well, I can only wish you good job.

[1]
And if in the future, using the same auto-manual-swap system you
wanted to create a system for automatic conversion, like shapeshift
well... you'd be already in the middle of work done. Smiley


PS:
Sorry for long posts

Ah How I missed you Remy! Smiley

I will go through your posts and send you a reply here by tomorrow and about the new wallet mate , well everything is coming together perfectly mate. Smiley
The entire team is working behind it round the clock.

Warm Regards,
~SoopY~


Quite literally around the clock! I am GMT+12 so I work while the other guys sleep and then we switch!

I have added a banner to the website which links to a page that houses the information about the upgrade: http://navcoin.org/upgrade

There are also some updated screen shots of the client with the rest of the branding applied. Sophia is working on the text of this page to make it a bit more user friendly.

I have also updated the projects page to more accurately reflect where we are with our various projects!

http://navcoin.org/projects

Talk soon



Any chance of a nice banner to add to our signatures or maybe something to retweet again ?Smiley
hero member
Activity: 794
Merit: 510
NavCoin Founder

We strongly recommend that everyone use Bittrex as the swap mechanism. Manual swaps after the end of the Bittrex coin swap are possible but it does take us a reasonable amount of effort per swap and I'm sure you would rather we are busy working on new Nav features like the mobile wallet rather than being flooded with coin swaps to perform.


Already in contact with other exchange? They accepted?
I fear some might consider the Nav2.0 not as an evolution,
but as a new currency and put forward new requests.

In reference to the operations for manual swap, I was thinking,
do you could readjust partly your system for anonymous
transaction and use it to perform the manual swap, in "automatic"?
 
If you see it in a very abstract way, after all, these are two very
similar tasks. [1]
 
The current system anonymously sends back the transaction in input,
and the output on the same blockchain.

In that hypothetical ad hoc system for "manual swap", it would accept
the input transaction from Nav 1.0, and here it will be burned, sending
it to a (malformed) burn-address.
At the same time on blockchain NAV 2.0 would start an equivalent
transaction from your fund for the conversion, sending it to the
new true final destination.
All without any real manual intervention by your part. Smiley


In this regard, I would like your own opinion.
Could You ask to Bittrex, if they before closing their old wallet,
they can put as last command the order to burn all the old NAV,
sending everything to a burn address?

IMHO this could facilitate the accounting operations, on what has
been converted, and what was left of "live" in the old blockchain.
Or may be just a useless complication. Smiley


Now Package would make a recommendation to you, while you're in the
phase of creating the new wallet, I would urge you to bring in even
somethings that have been found useful in the old wallet, the system
synchronization of time based on NTP, and if possible to improve it
by making more stringent the control over the time, and mandatory for all.
(There are still a couple of wallet around which do not use it)

Most of all, Craig, I strongly urge you to check that the new wallet, do not
inherit the old nonlinearities that plague the old wallet.

Well, I can only wish you good job.

[1]
And if in the future, using the same auto-manual-swap system you
wanted to create a system for automatic conversion, like shapeshift
well... you'd be already in the middle of work done. Smiley


PS:
Sorry for long posts

Ah How I missed you Remy! Smiley

I will go through your posts and send you a reply here by tomorrow and about the new wallet mate , well everything is coming together perfectly mate. Smiley
The entire team is working behind it round the clock.

Warm Regards,
~SoopY~


Quite literally around the clock! I am GMT+12 so I work while the other guys sleep and then we switch!

I have added a banner to the website which links to a page that houses the information about the upgrade: http://navcoin.org/upgrade

There are also some updated screen shots of the client with the rest of the branding applied. Sophia is working on the text of this page to make it a bit more user friendly.

I have also updated the projects page to more accurately reflect where we are with our various projects!

http://navcoin.org/projects

Talk soon

legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1001
Founder - NavCoin Ⓝ

We strongly recommend that everyone use Bittrex as the swap mechanism. Manual swaps after the end of the Bittrex coin swap are possible but it does take us a reasonable amount of effort per swap and I'm sure you would rather we are busy working on new Nav features like the mobile wallet rather than being flooded with coin swaps to perform.


Already in contact with other exchange? They accepted?
I fear some might consider the Nav2.0 not as an evolution,
but as a new currency and put forward new requests.

In reference to the operations for manual swap, I was thinking,
do you could readjust partly your system for anonymous
transaction and use it to perform the manual swap, in "automatic"?
 
If you see it in a very abstract way, after all, these are two very
similar tasks. [1]
 
The current system anonymously sends back the transaction in input,
and the output on the same blockchain.

In that hypothetical ad hoc system for "manual swap", it would accept
the input transaction from Nav 1.0, and here it will be burned, sending
it to a (malformed) burn-address.
At the same time on blockchain NAV 2.0 would start an equivalent
transaction from your fund for the conversion, sending it to the
new true final destination.
All without any real manual intervention by your part. Smiley


In this regard, I would like your own opinion.
Could You ask to Bittrex, if they before closing their old wallet,
they can put as last command the order to burn all the old NAV,
sending everything to a burn address?

IMHO this could facilitate the accounting operations, on what has
been converted, and what was left of "live" in the old blockchain.
Or may be just a useless complication. Smiley


Now Package would make a recommendation to you, while you're in the
phase of creating the new wallet, I would urge you to bring in even
somethings that have been found useful in the old wallet, the system
synchronization of time based on NTP, and if possible to improve it
by making more stringent the control over the time, and mandatory for all.
(There are still a couple of wallet around which do not use it)

Most of all, Craig, I strongly urge you to check that the new wallet, do not
inherit the old nonlinearities that plague the old wallet.

Well, I can only wish you good job.

[1]
And if in the future, using the same auto-manual-swap system you
wanted to create a system for automatic conversion, like shapeshift
well... you'd be already in the middle of work done. Smiley


PS:
Sorry for long posts

Ah How I missed you Remy! Smiley

I will go through your posts and send you a reply here by tomorrow and about the new wallet mate , well everything is coming together perfectly mate. Smiley
The entire team is working behind it round the clock.

Warm Regards,
~SoopY~
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
Thanks Remy5 your a Star!
hero member
Activity: 1194
Merit: 502

We strongly recommend that everyone use Bittrex as the swap mechanism. Manual swaps after the end of the Bittrex coin swap are possible but it does take us a reasonable amount of effort per swap and I'm sure you would rather we are busy working on new Nav features like the mobile wallet rather than being flooded with coin swaps to perform.


Already in contact with other exchange? They accepted?
I fear some might consider the Nav2.0 not as an evolution,
but as a new currency and put forward new requests.

In reference to the operations for manual swap, I was thinking,
do you could readjust partly your system for anonymous
transaction and use it to perform the manual swap, in "automatic"?
 
If you see it in a very abstract way, after all, these are two very
similar tasks. [1]
 
The current system anonymously sends back the transaction in input,
and the output on the same blockchain.

In that hypothetical ad hoc system for "manual swap", it would accept
the input transaction from Nav 1.0, and here it will be burned, sending
it to a (malformed) burn-address.
At the same time on blockchain NAV 2.0 would start an equivalent
transaction from your fund for the conversion, sending it to the
new true final destination.
All without any real manual intervention by your part. Smiley


In this regard, I would like your own opinion.
Could You ask to Bittrex, if they before closing their old wallet,
they can put as last command the order to burn all the old NAV,
sending everything to a burn address?

IMHO this could facilitate the accounting operations, on what has
been converted, and what was left of "live" in the old blockchain.
Or may be just a useless complication. Smiley


Now Package would make a recommendation to you, while you're in the
phase of creating the new wallet, I would urge you to bring in even
somethings that have been found useful in the old wallet, the system
synchronization of time based on NTP, and if possible to improve it
by making more stringent the control over the time, and mandatory for all.
(There are still a couple of wallet around which do not use it)

Most of all, Craig, I strongly urge you to check that the new wallet, do not
inherit the old nonlinearities that plague the old wallet.

Well, I can only wish you good job.

[1]
And if in the future, using the same auto-manual-swap system you
wanted to create a system for automatic conversion, like shapeshift
well... you'd be already in the middle of work done. Smiley


PS:
Sorry for long posts
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Well hello there!
Note to NavCoin dev team:

You boys might wanna go ahead and remove the Official Forum entry from the Development Graphic in OP as it will be going offline sometime today.  Just a heads up Smiley
hero member
Activity: 1194
Merit: 502
I read the announce, the reactions, and I was surprised...
well... I expected a lot more insults. Wink

Ok, jokes aside, I am pleased that there were no bad moods, I think that the
road taken by the DevTeam, is one that allows to get the best results quickly.

After the announce, there were some intelligent questions on the technical side,
and I think they deserve a little more depth reasonings and answers.

For example, the demand on the type of hashing and if there will be a POW phase.
If I have understand correctly, the Nav 2.0 is a predominantly POS type coin,
then there is not necessity of a strong POW algorithm to enforce a high difficulty
or Asic resistance. So I wonder, is it really necessary for calculating the blocks
hash, to use all the 13 algorithms of the X13 ?

Whereas this is a choice that will take you from here on out, it would not be
better to resort immediately to a calculation of the hash more simpler and
lighter for the CPU?

Regarding the POW stage, I think that a small initial phase is necessary,
at least from a technical point of view.
In case of pure POS coin, in the initial stage of life of the new blockchain,
there is a risk that it might get stuck because there are no mature coins
ready for the POS, and without a stream of blocks the Exchanges would not be
able to distribute the coins to the holders of the new wallet.

If the concern is not to increase the total NAV, the Dev might perform the
POW with a reward fixed at 0, it possibly should be enabled\permitted
automatically just when there were no blocks at least for a certain number
of seconds.
The DevTeam would be so kind to give us some more detail on this?

Another intelligent question, it is about the interval time of the blocks and
the waste of space in bytes which results in inflating of blockchain.
In order to reduce the daily blocks (and MByte), it has been suggested to
double the block time to 60 sec / 6 minutes for the minimum confirm.
But this request as been denied, and the time will still remain to 30 sec / 3 Min,
just like as it is now.

Personally, I like a quick time for blockchain, IMHO, it favors the ease of use
of the coins in real life, and it is more easier for everyone to produce POS block.
At same time, I understand very well the concern about waste of bytes \ resource
(and at long cpu time) that all this can leads, we have all a proof of what this mean.

If we see at the NAV 1.0 blockchain, it is just a raw estimate, but I think
over 95% of the blocks that have been generated so far are useless, because
they do not have recorded new real transactions, but only the TX needed for
the POS itself.
IMHO, This it one thing that few can know, but that should not be ignored.

Of course part of reasons of this, is due ehm... the lack of real use of coin,
and I hope for all of you this belong to the past, but in any type activity
there are moment of high load and other with zero work.
The new bigger size for block of NAV 2.0 can do its best in the moment of
hight load,  but IMHO can do nothing for blocks with zero payload.

I would ask: would not be useful if DevTeam study also a system with a
variable interval time between the blocks?

Try to imagine a system which provides  minimum interval time for blockchain,
to be used just when there are new transactions or they need to be confirmed,
and another more relaxed interval time, (ie a minute or more) to be used when
there are no real transactions in progress.
This system can potentially maintain a low transaction time, but at same time
avoid useless waste of byte for long series of empty block.
 
Or maybe they can explore other solution, with new more complex^2 routines,
able to recycle or "forget" the previous empty blocks, but at the same time
safeguarding the revenues of the POS of their respective owners.

What do you think?

hero member
Activity: 794
Merit: 510
NavCoin Founder
For those that need to move a large amount of coins
Should they move them in 1 transaction. Or send a quarter at a time.

Example. If I had 5million NAV
. Should I send 250,000 at a time instead of the 5 million in 1 shot to Bittrex

I remember Remy5 had some suggestions on Transaction amounts and network strength

Hash are you #1 richlist guy?  Tongue

I would always recommend sending large amount of coins in smaller transactions. Even sending a very small transaction as a test first. Largely due to the fact that if anything goes wrong, eg. you put in a bad address, then you don't lose all your coins!

Last time i bought a large holding of an alt coin I sent the whole lot from the exchange to my fresh wallet and it didn't appear for 24 hours. I almost died thinking id lost the lot!
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
I already transferred my NAV on trex quite few days ago to avoid complications in swap process.I just was bit away from this thread.I think is easy way to get swapped automatically letting coins on exchange.Waiting for big news !
legendary
Activity: 2165
Merit: 1002
Faucet down... or just out perhaps since the current blockchain's days are numbered?
hero member
Activity: 1194
Merit: 502
For those that need to move a large amount of coins
Should they move them in 1 transaction. Or send a quarter at a time.

Example. If I had 5million NAV
. Should I send 250,000 at a time instead of the 5 million in 1 shot to Bittrex

I remember Remy5 had some suggestions on Transaction amounts and network strength


You rang?  Cheesy

At the moment I do not remember the precise case.

However in general the splitting of payments is more important when you transfer from Exchange
to your wallet, so you have more number of stacks of coins that may in the future create new blocks.
But sometimes, this can be paid too much for it, because of the fixed fee for each withdrawal
applied by the exchange.

However, as a general safety rule, when you make a big transfer to and from an exchange (especially one
of those small\new exchange) it is better to make a little initial transfer for test, to check if your wallet
and that of exchange are both operational and synchronized on the same fork.

It costs nothing, aside a  little of time, but this can avoid "unpleasant" effects in case of mishaps.


This reminds me that there are some things I want to ask .... but first I have other duties.

legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
For those that need to move a large amount of coins
Should they move them in 1 transaction. Or send a quarter at a time.

Example. If I had 5million NAV
. Should I send 250,000 at a time instead of the 5 million in 1 shot to Bittrex

I remember Remy5 had some suggestions on Transaction amounts and network strength
member
Activity: 63
Merit: 10
anybody could provide some help how to sync from scratch?, I downloaded NAV wallet and delete everything but wallet.dat with .conf provided but chain seems stuck with 589k blocks left. From there blocks left just increasing... thanks in advance community

Best would be you download the blockchain data from our website. Unzip this inside the appdata working folder Navcoin. After this, you should come forward.

Regards
Shahim

It worked, thank you!
legendary
Activity: 2165
Merit: 1002
I was seriously thinking of using manual mode but your description made it clear. There is no reason to give you trouble, bittrex seems to be on top of it.

If you are distributing articles, may I suggest http://cryptomining-blog.com/

It is a very popular blog, not just for mining despite the name and many investors read it. It will certainly give NAV some needed attention.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
Is it nearly swap time?  Grin

Hi Everyone. We are making good progress on our end. We are currently testing the anonymous transactions using the new block chain and everything is looking good so far!

When we complete this step, we will be able to supply the new code base to Bittrex and initiate the coin swap. I would expect that we can begin the coin swap this week coming as previously stated.

We are also in the process of distributing articles about Nav and the coin swap to various crypto news outlets to make sure we give everyone the best chance of hearing about the swap and swapping their coins as well as pushing the public profile of Nav!

Bittrex have supplied us further information about how the swap will take place. It is very simple from your perspective.

All you need to do is to send your Nav to Bittrex before the end date of the swap.

At the end date all Nav wallets will be put into maintenance mode, meaning there will be no trading, depositing or withdrawing. We will then send Bittrex the balance of new Nav coin equal to the amount which everyone has deposited. They will decommission your old Nav addresses and link your current balance to the new block chain with all the new coins we have loaded ready for withdrawal. When the Nav wallet comes out of maintenance mode you are then free to resume trading or withdraw your coins to the new wallet.

We will make the new wallet available to the public before the end of the coin swap date so that everyone is prepared to withdraw their coins.

Bittrex have performed many of these coin swaps in the past and have had no previous issues. They are a very reliable exchange which has never had any problems with hacks or other suspicious behaviour from its operators. We trust that Bittrex will perform this swap in a swift, reliable and professional manner.

We strongly recommend that everyone use Bittrex as the swap mechanism. Manual swaps after the end of the Bittrex coin swap are possible but it does take us a reasonable amount of effort per swap and I'm sure you would rather we are busy working on new Nav features like the mobile wallet rather than being flooded with coin swaps to perform.

I will post again soon when we have sent the source code to Bittrex and agreed on a date for the coin swap to occur.

I am very excited to get this under way, the new wallet is awesome!

Regards,
Craig.

Clear , Comprehensive , Informative , and Appreciate such a detailed answer. Awesome Package

Thank you

Register for a Bittrex account here - https://bittrex.com/Account/Register to make this a Quick & Fast swap out for NAV Coin 2.0
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1055
Is it nearly swap time?  Grin
Hi Everyone. We are making good progress on our end. We are currently testing the anonymous transactions using the new block chain and everything is looking good so far!


Thank you very much for these great news! I'm really excited about NAV Coin 2.0 and I think it will be a great success!
 Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy

Please retweet: https://twitter.com/cryptkeeperbtt/status/723754526327595008  Grin
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