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hero member
Activity: 575
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February 05, 2015, 08:22:19 PM
How long until AT is on mainnet?

It's ready when it's stable and has no known flaws.
or
It's ready when it's done. :-)

Currently we are working on a whitepaper for internal use.
Next step is integrating AT in NFD-1.3.5.
sr. member
Activity: 310
Merit: 250
February 05, 2015, 06:21:10 PM
How long until AT is on mainnet?
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
February 05, 2015, 06:12:57 PM
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Are you planning to issue any more NFDMMNXT?  Looks like there are more folks interested than you thought!

I'd really appreciate that.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Unfortunately, 25'000 was all I issued and right now I'm broke. Smiley I bought a big hunk of BTC, but it's in limbo for 14 days because the exchange I bought them at doesn't trust first-time buyers. Huh

I used to buy at Vault of Satoshi...and damn, do I miss them...

Anyhoo: I seem to have a bit of a hit with NFDMMNxt, which did surprise me a bit. You're absolutely right about a second issue providing more buy support for NFD.
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
February 05, 2015, 06:08:21 PM
More NFDMMNXT to buy means more dividend transactions.
more dividend transactions means more NFD tx volume.
more NFD tx volume means price going up and attracts more attention.

you can buy it on nfd exchange ,there are some sellers.

Yes, there are: I just saw it.
hero member
Activity: 561
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February 05, 2015, 02:40:47 PM
More NFDMMNXT to buy means more dividend transactions.
more dividend transactions means more NFD tx volume.
more NFD tx volume means price going up and attracts more attention.

you can buy it on nfd exchange ,there are some sellers.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
February 05, 2015, 12:53:58 PM
More NFDMMNXT to buy means more dividend transactions.
more dividend transactions means more NFD tx volume.
more NFD tx volume means price going up and attracts more attention.
newbie
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February 05, 2015, 10:37:59 AM
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Are you planning to issue any more NFDMMNXT?  Looks like there are more folks interested than you thought!

I'd really appreciate that.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
February 05, 2015, 09:45:37 AM
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Are you planning to issue any more NFDMMNXT?  Looks like there are more folks interested than you thought!
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
February 05, 2015, 09:38:11 AM
It would be very good to see some kind of original NFD feature going beyond what NXT can do.  I think the NXT AE's great weakness is it's centralized trust model (in the issuer of an asset).  I still would like to see NFD implement spread betting with a decentralized trust model.  Perhaps AT can help with this?

Those are very good points. AT will certainly help with cross-chain transactions. You did hit the nail on the head about having to trust the issuer of an Asset. I've stuck to alias-type Assets myself - full backing by another crypto - in order to set a good example, and (I hope) add to a tradition that would make a scammer stick out like a sore thumb. But, it still hinges upon trust.

Implementing a reasonably trust-free option would require a major overhaul of the core. Unfortunately, we're still stuck in the altcoin underworld: the only experienced and doughty coder who's joined us has been BTC2Nxt for AT.

Spread betting on regular markets opens up another trust issue, as MaWo pointed out earlier. The trouble with using regular market data is that trust is required for the source! No matter how unimpeachable the feed, you still have to trust the feed itself. And regular markets being what they are, plus latency being what it is, there's no exact-match confirm available. Gold can go from $1,261.20 to $1260.70 or $1,261.70 in a millisecond. So if some scammer decides to run a "long con" with a compromised feed that give him just a little edge, it would be all-but-impossible to detect.

As for more obvious cons, they can be detected with "many sets of eyes" - preferably with some straightforward auditing tool which offers a choice of feeds. It wouldn't be that hard to whip up an auditing tool that would catch a scammer who tries to 'settle' a gold bet using $1,500 gold, for example. But again, latency and volatility mean that an exact match is simply not possible. It seems a situation that's ripe for a lot of arguments. Wink

Isn't HFT grand? Undecided

In fact, there was an expose on Zero Hedge about a huge gold buy that hit the Chicago market at the exact millisecond when the Fed released a gold-boosting announcement. The truth of the expose hinged upon the speed of light! I'm not kidding. The author said that there was no way that the announcement could have reached someone in Chicago quickly enough for that buy to have been placed after the announcement came out. He concluded that the buyer had inside information on what the announcement was going to be and pre-programmed his tradebot to buy at the exact millisecond of its release in order to cover his tracks.

As I said, the latency, volatility and consequent trust issues would be a permanent source of arguments.

In this sense, the AE system is a real blessing and the prefect medium for spread betting. Its virtue is its slowness! All orders go into the hopper at the same time, and none of them are good until a forger validates them and adds them to the blockchain. ~90 sec. confirm time means that bets can be settled unambiguously.

But the trouble is, we need more alias type of Assets on the NFD system for spread bets! We'd also need a lot of liquidity, or at the very least a (trusted!) market maker to, say, keep "NFDGold" in line with the real bid and real ask for gold. It's a great idea, but the old catch-22 of the altcoin underworld puts a limit on it. For now. Smiley

As for me, I'm doin' what I can.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
February 05, 2015, 05:17:49 AM
The first pass-through dividend from MMNXT came in today, and I just sent out the NFD equivalents to the holders of NFDMMNxt. The amount that the NFDMMNxt_Dedicated_Account received this morning was 230.93089501 NXT; Tx ID 18362448331694644878. Using a Nxt price of 6000 satoshis and NFD's low ask of 2, the NFD equivalent to MMNXT's dividend is 692792.68503 NFD, or 27.7118 NFD per unit of NFDMMNxt.

So, here's today's pay roster:

Code:
NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3: Paid  27'711.8 NFD. NFD Tx ID: 7677700636814017089

NFD-TTJZ-S8EQ-7KJU-9ARY6: Paid  15'380.05 NFD. NFD Tx ID: 15471882897083776804

NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU: Paid  2'771.18 NFD. NFD Tx ID: 16246170084599441459

NFD-9MWR-P9DU-P2HQ-G3F7B: Paid  2'771.18 NFD. NFD Tx ID: 1026751545368210011

Next dividend, in which I pass through the week's spread-trading profits, comes Sunday night. You can see the updated spread-trading ledger on the Web here.

Thanks to all who bought some NFDMMNxt!


NFDMMNxt's Asset ID number is 7008598312490387994. Dedicated thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annnfdmmnxt-new-nfd-asset-nfdmmnxt-930228


This is a great asset and MMNXT is an excellent backing for it.  We strongly support what you are doing.  Good work.  NFD is heating up.

It would be very good to see some kind of original NFD feature going beyond what NXT can do.  I think the NXT AE's great weakness is it's centralized trust model (in the issuer of an asset).  I still would like to see NFD implement spread betting with a decentralized trust model.  Perhaps AT can help with this?
legendary
Activity: 1697
Merit: 1074
February 04, 2015, 03:57:46 PM
The tunnel works now, thanks!

Now as to client 1.3.5, the interface default and simple appears disfigured when I try to access it.

...
There are some additional configuration to be done?

Normally it should work out of the box.

Which browser version do you use? Windows Firefox? Which version?

Could you also please try the online wallet?
https://nfdcoin.com/wallet/simple.html
Firefox 35.0.1 in Linux Mint 17 MATE 64bit
This happens because of the connection through ssh.
When I access the wallet from VPS, it functions properly.



Are you able to access/read   http://localhost:8876/css/bootstrap.min.css ?
I can read this link.

I accessed through the putty using windows 7 and Firefox, and it worked properly.

The problem is access using Linux Mint, or ssh through the terminal.

I can not reproduce the ssh tunnel issue.
When I remove bootstrap.min.css then I see a similar screen.

Do you also have the same problem with google chrome?
If so, could you please do a right mouse click and chose "Inspect Element".
As next click on "Network", reload page and check whether a file is not accessible through the ssh tunnel.
Now is operating normally, I do not know what caused it, was going to the NXT wallet as well. But is already repaired.
hero member
Activity: 575
Merit: 502
February 04, 2015, 01:47:13 PM
The tunnel works now, thanks!

Now as to client 1.3.5, the interface default and simple appears disfigured when I try to access it.

...
There are some additional configuration to be done?

Normally it should work out of the box.

Which browser version do you use? Windows Firefox? Which version?

Could you also please try the online wallet?
https://nfdcoin.com/wallet/simple.html
Firefox 35.0.1 in Linux Mint 17 MATE 64bit
This happens because of the connection through ssh.
When I access the wallet from VPS, it functions properly.



Are you able to access/read   http://localhost:8876/css/bootstrap.min.css ?
I can read this link.

I accessed through the putty using windows 7 and Firefox, and it worked properly.

The problem is access using Linux Mint, or ssh through the terminal.

I can not reproduce the ssh tunnel issue.
When I remove bootstrap.min.css then I see a similar screen.

Do you also have the same problem with google chrome?
If so, could you please do a right mouse click and chose "Inspect Element".
As next click on "Network", reload page and check whether a file is not accessible through the ssh tunnel.
legendary
Activity: 1697
Merit: 1074
February 04, 2015, 01:36:24 PM
The tunnel works now, thanks!

Now as to client 1.3.5, the interface default and simple appears disfigured when I try to access it.

...
There are some additional configuration to be done?

Normally it should work out of the box.

Which browser version do you use? Windows Firefox? Which version?

Could you also please try the online wallet?
https://nfdcoin.com/wallet/simple.html
Firefox 35.0.1 in Linux Mint 17 MATE 64bit
This happens because of the connection through ssh.
When I access the wallet from VPS, it functions properly.



Are you able to access/read   http://localhost:8876/css/bootstrap.min.css ?
I can read this link.

I accessed through the putty using windows 7 and Firefox, and it worked properly.

The problem is access using Linux Mint, or ssh through the terminal.
hero member
Activity: 575
Merit: 502
February 03, 2015, 10:58:17 AM
The tunnel works now, thanks!

Now as to client 1.3.5, the interface default and simple appears disfigured when I try to access it.

...
There are some additional configuration to be done?

Normally it should work out of the box.

Which browser version do you use? Windows Firefox? Which version?

Could you also please try the online wallet?
https://nfdcoin.com/wallet/simple.html
Firefox 35.0.1 in Linux Mint 17 MATE 64bit
This happens because of the connection through ssh.
When I access the wallet from VPS, it functions properly.



Are you able to access/read   http://localhost:8876/css/bootstrap.min.css ?
legendary
Activity: 1697
Merit: 1074
February 03, 2015, 09:22:57 AM
The tunnel works now, thanks!

Now as to client 1.3.5, the interface default and simple appears disfigured when I try to access it.



There are some additional configuration to be done?

Normally it should work out of the box.

Which browser version do you use? Windows Firefox? Which version?

Could you also please try the online wallet?
https://nfdcoin.com/wallet/simple.html
Firefox 35.0.1 in Linux Mint 17 MATE 64bit
This happens because of the connection through ssh.
When I access the wallet from VPS, it functions properly.

hero member
Activity: 575
Merit: 502
February 03, 2015, 08:51:49 AM
The tunnel works now, thanks!

Now as to client 1.3.5, the interface default and simple appears disfigured when I try to access it.



There are some additional configuration to be done?

Normally it should work out of the box.

Which browser version do you use? Windows Firefox? Which version?

Could you also please try the online wallet?
https://nfdcoin.com/wallet/simple.html
legendary
Activity: 1697
Merit: 1074
February 03, 2015, 08:04:14 AM
The tunnel works now, thanks!

Now as to client 1.3.5, the interface default and simple appears disfigured when I try to access it.



There are some additional configuration to be done?

Edit: this is because the ssh listen, on my local PC only
legendary
Activity: 1181
Merit: 1018
February 01, 2015, 03:53:10 PM

Thank You for the update!

I will download the blockchain tomorrow, need to go to bed now!
hero member
Activity: 575
Merit: 502
February 01, 2015, 03:40:49 PM
hey was I lucky! I just went to the repo to DL NFD and saw that MaWo had added NFD1.3.5 just half an hour ago  Cheesy

looks like I stumbled in there when MaWo was updating- is it safe to use already?!

Yes it is! Smiley

I suggest to set nxt.forceScan=true and nxt.forceValidate=true for the first start.
This allows the client to detect forks and popOff not valid blocks.

This will look like this:
Code:
2015-02-01 21:45:51 INFO: Checkpoint passed at block height 151200
2015-02-01 21:45:52 FINE: nxt.NxtException$NotValidException: Checkpoint not passed, blockId check failed at block height 151920. Expected 17295753430469899037 but found 4007331579693324843
nxt.NxtException$NotValidException: Checkpoint not passed, blockId check failed at block height 151920. Expected 17295753430469899037 but found 4007331579693324843
        at nxt.BlockchainProcessorImpl.scan(BlockchainProcessorImpl.java:945)
        at nxt.BlockchainProcessorImpl$6.run(BlockchainProcessorImpl.java:400)
        at nxt.util.ThreadPool$2.run(ThreadPool.java:114)
2015-02-01 21:45:52 FINE: Applying block 4007331579693324843 at height 151920 failed, deleting from database
2015-02-01 21:46:31 INFO: ...done at height 151919
2015-02-01 21:46:31 INFO: Fork isssue detected, resolving.
2015-02-01 21:46:31 FINE: Rollback from 151919 to 151200
2015-02-01 21:46:31 FINE: Running 2 final tasks...
2015-02-01 21:46:31 INFO: Started peer networking server at 0.0.0.0:8874
2015-02-01 21:46:31 INFO: Started API server at 127.0.0.1:8876
...

and after start up:
Code:
2015-02-01 21:46:31 FINE: Starting 8 background jobs
2015-02-01 21:46:31 FINE: Starting 2 delayed tasks
2015-02-01 21:46:31 INFO: Initialization took 512 seconds
2015-02-01 21:46:31 INFO: NFD server NFD-1.3.5 started successfully.
2015-02-01 21:46:31 FINE: Known peers: 96
2015-02-01 21:46:47 INFO: nxt.apiServerEnforcePOST = "true"
2015-02-01 21:47:22 INFO: Checkpoint passed at block height 151200
2015-02-01 21:47:23 INFO: Checkpoint passed at block height 151920
2015-02-01 21:47:27 INFO: Checkpoint passed at block height 152640
2015-02-01 21:47:28 INFO: Checkpoint passed at block height 153360
2015-02-01 21:47:29 INFO: Checkpoint passed at block height 154080
2015-02-01 21:47:35 INFO: Checkpoint passed at block height 154800
2015-02-01 21:47:35 INFO: received block 155000
...

Just to say don't worry. The client is only solving a fork situation.
hero member
Activity: 575
Merit: 502
February 01, 2015, 03:36:53 PM

hey was I lucky! I just went to the repo to DL NFD and saw that MaWo had added NFD1.3.5 just half an hour ago  Cheesy

Hehe  Smiley

New NFD client release nfd-client-NFD-1.3.5.zip

This is the first release which stores most objects in the embedded SQL H2 database, instead of keeping them in memory.
This version will perform an initial build of the objects tables, which on a fast machine takes about 10 minutes,
but may take longer depending on your hardware. A VPS usually needs much longer! The database size will grow
during this rescan, but after shutdown it should shrink to around 560 MB. The memory usage of the client will increase.

This version is the first version which includes a checkpoint check at every 720th block height. It's triggered during
block download. Checkpoints are hard coded blockId checks. Only blockIds and heights in the blockchain until the time of the release are recognized.
You can manually force a check by starting a scan with validation (nxt.forceScan=true and nxt.forceValidate=true) at startup.
If the check detect that you are on a fork, it will pop off all blocks until last valid one.

This version has also a rewritten UPnP component. Now it takes care about myAddress on its own. UPnP is enabled by default.
Please add nxt.enableUPnP=false to your conf/nxt.properties to disable UPnP mapping.

With this version we introduce a simple client. Please use it with caution, it's still in experimental state.
http://localhost:8876/simple.html

Other important changes:
Blacklist peers with version older than 1.2.0.
Limit peer networking request and response sizes to prevent out of memory attacks
Insecure SSLv3 protocol disabled for API.
Improved digital good store UI.
Forced validation is disabled again.
Improved test page http://localhost:8876/test
Access to the H2 database at runtime http://localhost:8876/dbshell (only with nxt.enableDebugAPI=true)

Limit total number of known peers merged from NXT 1.4.10:
To prevent overloading a node with invalid peer addresses, the maximum total number of known peers is
limited to nxt.maxNumberOfKnownPeers (default 2000).
Once this number has been reached, new peer addresses are not added, and peers
that have been last connected to more than a week ago are removed from the known
peer list, provided the node has enough connected public peers, until the number
of known peers is again reduced to below nxt.minNumberOfKnownPeers (default
1000).

Also included are all new API calls, bug fixes and other improvements from NXT 1.3.5 and before.
Please see NXT changelogs for more details:


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