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legendary
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As I noted above Anon136 has already sent out some refunds - including two from the >1 BTC category. This implies that there are people on the spreadsheet who have pulled out of the deal already. They'll have to be dropped from the list.

If I read correctly, the people who used escrow and got their funds back won't be included in this?

My view is that people who already asked for a refund of escrow may have done so after they knew it was a scam but before they knew about NFDv2, so should be allowed to re-invest their original investment. They shouldn't get their NFDv2 coins for free though; their investment should be put into the slush fund.

That's something we can talk about - but, given the compensation part, it would be fair to the bilked for the escrow-return cases to send in the same amount of BTC that they would have spent had the original project been legitimate and launched.

But now we have a tricky issue...what about the BTC that's thrown into the new project? My own inclination is towards using it as a bounty fund to hire professional Nxt-experienced programmers to add new features to NFDv2. It'd be great if NFD2 launched as a better coin than the original NFD!

If this idea is acceptable, I'd be more than willing to keep the BTC under escrow - not to be released until the programmer(s) come up with features that are finished, work, and are field-tested. Wink

If this upsets anyone who was prudent enough to use Anon136 and save their funds, please remember that your money will go exclusively towards making NFDv2 a premium coin - and that the decision is entirely yours! If you'd rather keep your funds, that's okay: you'll just be taken off the allocation list.

I have no problem at all with an escrow arrangement. I don't want access to a single satoshi because I'm doing this for free. Yep, I'm that ticked off. Cheesy
legendary
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I was cautious and used escrow, unlike others our money wasn't stolen. Shouldn't I be able to get my money back while also keeping my original spot in NFDv2?

Its not an ipo anymore.

LOL, What? So you get money back and also you get NFD stake? WHY? Roll Eyes
are you divine or something?

Good point. Sorry, NoirSuccubus, but those of us who didn't use escrow lost our funds. This revival is primarily designed to compensate those losses, as well as fulfill NDCoin's original fair-distribution promise with the giveaway. How can you be compensated if you didn't lose any money?
legendary
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Note To All:

If you sent me your tx id via PM and I haven't responded to you personally, don't worry. I have all the PMs saved and I'll make sure, as best I can, that you get what's yours. I just have to draw some lines, work-wise.


Is it necessary to send you the TxID or better not. I don't want to cause additional work for you.

Please send the tx id.
newbie
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Glad to see this ongoing project.
newbie
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I was cautious and used escrow, unlike others our money wasn't stolen. Shouldn't I be able to get my money back while also keeping my original spot in NFDv2?

Its not an ipo anymore.

LOL, What? So you get money back and also you get NFD stake? WHY? Roll Eyes
are you divine or something?
hero member
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My view is that people who already asked for a refund of escrow may have done so after they knew it was a scam but before they knew about NFDv2, so should be allowed to re-invest their original investment. They shouldn't get their NFDv2 coins for free though; their investment should be put into the slush fund.

+1
sr. member
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As I noted above Anon136 has already sent out some refunds - including two from the >1 BTC category. This implies that there are people on the spreadsheet who have pulled out of the deal already. They'll have to be dropped from the list.

If I read correctly, the people who used escrow and got their funds back won't be included in this?

My view is that people who already asked for a refund of escrow may have done so after they knew it was a scam but before they knew about NFDv2, so should be allowed to re-invest their original investment. They shouldn't get their NFDv2 coins for free though; their investment should be put into the slush fund.
full member
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I was cautious and used escrow, unlike others my money wasn't stolen. Shouldn't I be able to get my money back while also keeping my original spot in NFDv2?

Its not an ipo anymore.
member
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I am so down with your idea. I am in the spreadsheet in 3 places and would like to recoup *something* from this debacle - not to
mention something for the people I recommended the IPO to. Ugh!

Let me know how I can help. Site development, SEO, social media, writing, you name it, and if I am capable of doing it, I am there.
hero member
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Great work! This will be a great resurrection.

Couple of suggestions regarding escrow and calculating total NFDs for each stake:

Provide a deadline for escrow to pull out. If people stay, great, if people leave...after deadline reallocate/recalculate each category stake based on new investment totals less 10% for dev fund.

This will maximize coins for all!

Edit: I already pulled my escrow from Cat 4 and can see that many people are pulling out of Anon's blockchain address. But due to recent developments and recovery plan, maybe it's best to allow escrow (with deadline say May 14) only for those who met the original deadline and pulled out to rejoin by sending escrow back to Anon??? This would help the dev team as well. I would consider doing this...as well as I'm sure others who have not had a chance to see the thread or just pulled out and dont know NFD is moving ahead.

If this will be too confusing, it's good to provide a deadline for escrow to pull out anyway and reallocate coins as per new totals.






+1! I would also consider reinvesting if possible and accepted of course.
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Great work! This will be a great resurrection.

Couple of suggestions regarding escrow and calculating total NFDs for each stake:

Provide a deadline for escrow to pull out. If people stay, great, if people leave...after deadline reallocate/recalculate each category stake based on new investment totals less 10% for dev fund.

This will maximize coins for all!

Edit: I already pulled my escrow from Cat 4 and can see that many people are pulling out of Anon's blockchain address. But due to recent developments and recovery plan, maybe it's best to allow escrow (with deadline say May 14) only for those who met the original deadline and pulled out to rejoin by sending escrow back to Anon??? This would help the dev team as well. I would consider doing this...as well as I'm sure others who have not had a chance to see the thread or just pulled out and dont know NFD is moving ahead.

If this will be too confusing, it's good to provide a deadline for escrow to pull out anyway and reallocate coins as per new totals.




sr. member
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Note To All:

If you sent me your tx id via PM and I haven't responded to you personally, don't worry. I have all the PMs saved and I'll make sure, as best I can, that you get what's yours. I just have to draw some lines, work-wise.


Is it necessary to send you the TxID or better not. I don't want to cause additional work for you.
hero member
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Note To All:

If you sent me your tx id via PM and I haven't responded to you personally, don't worry. I have all the PMs saved and I'll make sure, as best I can, that you get what's yours. I just have to draw some lines, work-wise.

Please remove the duplicated name and hash, like "smalloldman" appeared twice.
full member
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So the IPO still work.Who will get those BTC escrow holds then?besides the refunded.
Im confused right now cause the title says "No IPO".
full member
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Inject Its Venom Into Your Veins
Welcome richwang in the development team!
Thanks MaWo, I have compiled a NXT wallet, changing the Genies block for our spreadsheet.
About the bounty for the team, I think all the investors are victims,
and we don't want to hurt them again.
So I suggest, the Amount NFD on the spreadsheet is not change,
the team will only take over the empty shares in the free giveaway of the spreadsheet,
which about 100+shares.   After we release the wallet, donations are welcome.

As a small investor in the NFD scam, I would definitely be willing to give the developers much of my holdings as donation. Because if it wern't for you/them we wouldnt have anything at all.
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If I read correctly, the people who used escrow and got their funds back won't be included in this?

legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Note To All:

If you sent me your tx id via PM and I haven't responded to you personally, don't worry. I have all the PMs saved and I'll make sure, as best I can, that you get what's yours. I just have to draw some lines, work-wise.
legendary
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Will be a "giveaway" section as in the "original" NFD?  Grin

We're going with the giveaway list as it stood before NFDCoin scampered off. That one's going to be the big job...
member
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The Premier Digital Asset Management Ecosystem
Very good.See the progress. Keep up the good work, team's strength is infinite.
Come on.

legendary
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Nxt 1.0.2 did have a bug and has been updated now to: https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/downloads/nxt-client-1.0.3.zip

Okay, thanks a lot! To be honest, I was a little hesitant about suggesting the newest release because of that risk but the added Windows-compilation feature seemed worth the risk. I'll download the new version.
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