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State control strengthened strongly in 2018 after the growth of cryptocurrencies in 2017, which in turn caused a prolonged fall of the prices of cryptocurrencies in 2018.

How exactly was state control strengthened in 2018?

For example, tracking the origin of transaction on exchange. Exchange can block the illegal transactions.

What does this have to do with state control?

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May be you spend not so much money like bank transfer to exchange crypto to fiat but in all cases it costs a lot. Crypto transactions become cheap, but exchange crypto to fiat is expensive.

The main problem is connect crypto to fiat and make an exchange of crypto to fiat more simple and cheap is still a problem.

To connect crypto to fiat legally it is necessary to have a bank licenses but it is very hard to get such kind of licenses. But if crypto startup gets such licenses the exchange crytpo to fiat becomes very expensive Grin

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A private user can find an exchange on the illegal market. We ignore the risk of losing exchange money. There you can exchange cryptocurrency for 5% fee. This is not bad with poor infrastructure.

I think there is a very big risk to lost money on illegal market. That is why crytpocurrency have so bad reputation.

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State control strengthened strongly in 2018 after the growth of cryptocurrencies in 2017, which in turn caused a prolonged fall of the prices of cryptocurrencies in 2018.

How exactly was state control strengthened in 2018?

For example, tracking the origin of transaction on exchange. Exchange can block the illegal transactions.

Now in the forums there are a lot of posts of the users that their accounts were blocked by exchanges because of violations of AML.

Very often the traders but themselves do not know that they violate the laws because they do not know the origin of their transactions.

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Quote from: BitMaximum on July 08, 2019, 03:43:30 PM

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Quote from: vera152515 on July 01, 2019, 01:45:08 PM

State control strengthened strongly in 2018 after the growth of cryptocurrencies in 2017, which in turn caused a prolonged fall of the prices of cryptocurrencies in 2018.

How exactly was state control strengthened in 2018?

For example, tracking the origin of transaction on exchange. Exchange can block the illegal transactions.

Now in the forums there are a lot of posts of the users that their accounts were blocked by exchanges because of violations of AML.

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Quote from: upline on July 08, 2019, 12:20:38 AM

Quote from: vera152515 on July 01, 2019, 01:45:08 PM

State control strengthened strongly in 2018 after the growth of cryptocurrencies in 2017, which in turn caused a prolonged fall of the prices of cryptocurrencies in 2018.

How exactly was state control strengthened in 2018?

For example, tracking the origin of transaction on exchange. Exchange can block the illegal transactions.

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Quote from: vera152515 on July 01, 2019, 01:45:08 PM

State control strengthened strongly in 2018 after the growth of cryptocurrencies in 2017, which in turn caused a prolonged fall of the prices of cryptocurrencies in 2018.

How exactly was state control strengthened in 2018?

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I think than anonymity and mixing is necessary for all popular cryptocurrencies with the biggest capitalization.

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Quote from: BitMaximum on July 03, 2019, 02:35:10 PM

That is why Bitcoin mixer is necessary to have the full anonymity. Bitcoin mixer mix the transactions. But it is very important that the user will receive transactions with good history.

Yes, a mixer is a good alternative for bitcoin holders. Are there any mixers for other cryptocurrencies? What do you mean "transactions with good history"?

Now Bitcoin is used much more active than other cryptocurrencies. That is why Bitcoin mixers are so popular.

As for me mixing and anonymity is more necessary for Ethereum. Because on Ethereum it is more simple to check the money on wallets and all transactions then on Bitcoin.

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Quote from: BitMaximum on July 03, 2019, 02:35:10 PM

That is why Bitcoin mixer is necessary to have the full anonymity. Bitcoin mixer mix the transactions. But it is very important that the user will receive transactions with good history.

Yes, a mixer is a good alternative for bitcoin holders. Are there any mixers for other cryptocurrencies? What do you mean "transactions with good history"?

Now Bitcoin is used much more active than other cryptocurrencies. That is why Bitcoin mixers are so popular.

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Quote from: BitMaximum on July 03, 2019, 02:35:10 PM

That is why Bitcoin mixer is necessary to have the full anonymity. Bitcoin mixer mix the transactions. But it is very important that the user will receive transactions with good history.

Yes, a mixer is a good alternative for bitcoin holders. Are there any mixers for other cryptocurrencies? What do you mean "transactions with good history"?

"Transactions with good history" means transactions from exchanges that were checked by exchanges or transactions from miners with 0 history.

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Quote from: zoya2019 on July 06, 2019, 03:06:00 PM

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Why such a doomed thought?
Perfect privacy is not using the Internet.

Anonymous coins and mixers for ordinary coins provide technically the highest possible confidentiality. It can be accepted and used or not accepted and not used.

Anonymous coins are not such popular like Bitcoin and not many shops accept anonymous coins. That is why mixers becomes more popular.

Many traders fear that exchanges can be hacked and not only their money but also their personal data will be stolen.

Unfortunately still many crytpotcurrency exchanges continue to hack.On exchanges there are large sums and this is a big lure for hackers.

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Quote from: Dorvei on July 06, 2019, 02:31:00 PM

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Why such a doomed thought?
Perfect privacy is not using the Internet.

Anonymous coins and mixers for ordinary coins provide technically the highest possible confidentiality. It can be accepted and used or not accepted and not used.

Anonymous coins are not such popular like Bitcoin and not many shops accept anonymous coins. That is why mixers becomes more popular.

Many traders fear that exchanges can be hacked and not only their money but also their personal data will be stolen.

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The positive idea of anonymity has led to the appearence of a large number of fraudsters and scammers who, thanks to anonymity, avoid the punishment.

Most cryptocurrencies are not anonymous. You can find a user by transactions that connected to a crypto exchange or exchange for material values. Therefore, there are mixers for BTC. In addition, it is difficult to prove the fact of scam.

That is why many people do not use exchanges with KYC procedures and use mixers to mix up transactions. Bitcoin mixers are rather popular.

Now the authorities of various goverment autorities tighten the control over cryptocurrencies and mixers also began to check. Anonymity decreases.

You have to be very cautious if you want to stay anonymous when using Bitcoin and I don't know how safe mixers actually are.

Therefore, it is necessary to work only with the proven exchangers, which you trust and proven mixers.

With proven exchanges? How do they maintain your privacy if they collect all that data about you? And mixers are a difficult topic. Usually they are only improving privacy, but they can never reach perfect privacy as far as I know.

Exchange can be proven but one day your account may be blocked or hackers can hack the exchange.

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Why such a doomed thought?
Perfect privacy is not using the Internet.

Anonymous coins and mixers for ordinary coins provide technically the highest possible confidentiality. It can be accepted and used or not accepted and not used.

Anonymous coins are not such popular like Bitcoin and not many shops accept anonymous coins. That is why mixers becomes more popular.

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Quote from: caribbean_dream on June 22, 2019, 11:43:11 AM

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The positive idea of anonymity has led to the appearence of a large number of fraudsters and scammers who, thanks to anonymity, avoid the punishment.

Most cryptocurrencies are not anonymous. You can find a user by transactions that connected to a crypto exchange or exchange for material values. Therefore, there are mixers for BTC. In addition, it is difficult to prove the fact of scam.

That is why many people do not use exchanges with KYC procedures and use mixers to mix up transactions. Bitcoin mixers are rather popular.

Now the authorities of various goverment autorities tighten the control over cryptocurrencies and mixers also began to check. Anonymity decreases.

You have to be very cautious if you want to stay anonymous when using Bitcoin and I don't know how safe mixers actually are.

Therefore, it is necessary to work only with the proven exchangers, which you trust and proven mixers.

With proven exchanges? How do they maintain your privacy if they collect all that data about you? And mixers are a difficult topic. Usually they are only improving privacy, but they can never reach perfect privacy as far as I know.

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However, in some projects this is done. In the EU jurisdiction there is at least one project with the necessary licenses. We in this project can replenish and withdraw funds from a bank card. Cryptocurrency courses seem regular. Commission 3.5%. Not so much.

Optherium is registered in Switzerland. In Switzerland cryptocurrency is regulated and it is more simple to develop the cryptocurrency startups.

There is a Crypto Valley in Switzerland and many cryptocurrency startups are members of Crypto Valley. As I know Optherium is a member of Crypto Valley too.

It is very good that Optherium is registered in jurisdiction where cryptocurrency is regulated. It will be more simple to develop to Optherium and get all necessary licenses.

As I know Optherium already has some licenses and a ready crytpocurrency wallet with a lot of users. But development takes time.

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However, in some projects this is done. In the EU jurisdiction there is at least one project with the necessary licenses. We in this project can replenish and withdraw funds from a bank card. Cryptocurrency courses seem regular. Commission 3.5%. Not so much.

Optherium is registered in Switzerland. In Switzerland cryptocurrency is regulated and it is more simple to develop the cryptocurrency startups.

There is a Crypto Valley in Switzerland and many cryptocurrency startups are members of Crypto Valley. As I know Optherium is a member of Crypto Valley too.

It is very good that Optherium is registered in jurisdiction where cryptocurrency is regulated. It will be more simple to develop to Optherium and get all necessary licenses.

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Quote from: Enyanha on July 05, 2019, 11:44:02 AM

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However, in some projects this is done. In the EU jurisdiction there is at least one project with the necessary licenses. We in this project can replenish and withdraw funds from a bank card. Cryptocurrency courses seem regular. Commission 3.5%. Not so much.

Optherium is registered in Switzerland. In Switzerland cryptocurrency is regulated and it is more simple to develop the cryptocurrency startups.

There is a Crypto Valley in Switzerland and many cryptocurrency startups are members of Crypto Valley. As I know Optherium is a member of Crypto Valley too.

Enyanha

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However, in some projects this is done. In the EU jurisdiction there is at least one project with the necessary licenses. We in this project can replenish and withdraw funds from a bank card. Cryptocurrency courses seem regular. Commission 3.5%. Not so much.

Optherium is registered in Switzerland. In Switzerland cryptocurrency is regulated and it is more simple to develop the cryptocurrency startups.

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Quote from: Dorvei on May 23, 2019, 08:40:46 AM

Crypto-currency markets are more accessible for traders, there are no such restrictions as in the stock market

Yes, in the cryptocurrency market, a trader has the opportunity not to provide personal data; the trader has the ability to trade around the clock, withdraw their assets at any time. But most assets do not have liquidity; from crypto to cash withdrawal is expensive, since the crypto-infrastructure is not yet developed.

Yes you can trade crypto how you want but when you want to exchange crypto to fiat it costs money.

To exchange cryptocurrency for Fiat, you will spend as much money as you would on a bank transfer. You probably just never exchanged cryptocurrency once you think so.

May be you spend not so much money like bank transfer to exchange crypto to fiat but in all cases it costs a lot. Crypto transactions become cheap, but exchange crypto to fiat is expensive.

The main problem is connect crypto to fiat and make an exchange of crypto to fiat more simple and cheap is still a problem.

To connect crypto to fiat legally it is necessary to have a bank licenses but it is very hard to get such kind of licenses. But if crypto startup gets such licenses the exchange crytpo to fiat becomes very expensive Grin

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