Topic: [ANN] ORA :: NXT 'monetary system' currency - page 89. (Read 181197 times)

glad to see a deadline

Everything above 1500 members is great for Kora.
Node (NXTL) is waiting 3 months for +1200 users
NEM has a about 3000 stakeholders, but there is right to have 2 stakes (one person, 2 btt account)

Yea I think that would probably be best at this point. I think we would've stood a better chance of a big number of valid entries if we had created accounts on different crypto forums at the same time and opened registration for all of them instead of just relying on btt. There's just not enough people here in the alt coin section.
Still 1000+ is very decent. Hopefully there won't be that many sockpuppets 

New (valid) registrations have just become fewer and fewer. The first two 48 hours were an explosion, now it has almost reached a total stop.
I've calculated that at this current rate we might reach 3000 valid applications about 1 year from now.

So um yeah. I'd suggest we just go ahead and decide for an end date instead. Close the list, then I (and perhaps Kora) can actually start reviewing each application. As previously mentioned we got 1100+ entries to plow through.

How about we close the form this thursday? 07/03.

Any update , how much registrations still needed to reach 3000 ?

haven't any problem, e-mail confirmed, thanks a lot for support

Nice idea.
We should have a vote later, once we get some other submission(s) for a logo/general theme.

You read again some prev posts.

When can we claim Kora?

If you should decide to code Kora in plain C, take a look at Daniel J. Bernstein's NaCl library:
http://nacl.cr.yp.to/

This could potentially be useful for branding and marketing and a underlying theme.
It's close enough, nice symbolism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koru

(I'm getting a little bit sick and bored with all the pyramids (A) and inverted pyramids and references to NWO like in Ethereum for example.)

@ Kora
I agree. The vision is great and we need many strong participants who are willing to actually work to help improving the project. A solid foundation.

@ Sinohe88
I really do hope you continue to be involved in this project because you clearly know what's up. Thanks for backing up the strategy about keeping the entry data hidden for now. I'd imagine it's very frustrating for sockpuppets but good for everyone else. Transparency is good, telling everybody how to cheat is not good. I think we've been striking an excellent balance so far. Few complain and people over PM are happy. Because of this method of doing things I also disagree with the notion that people would "learn" how to cheat, but I get what you're saying. People get more time to actually think things through, perhaps even organize (in a negative way). But I'm not too worried about that, I'm more concered about keeping the great momentum we've built up. Just like we've balanced the issue regarding transparency we must also balance the number of users we'd like to have VS the time it'd take to actually obtain them. Like Kora mentioned, we already got quite a large list.

A deadline of x days sounds very reasonable to me. The form has already been live for 5 days straight so if we would decide for say 5 more days then that would make it over a week.

I don't know, I'll let Kora analyze the activity data I sent him earlier today. It naturally displays a great decline in submissions since the opening. How much more in the coming days, nobody knows yet. But I think it might feel more natural to set a deadline like you're suggesting, rather than a new goal in terms of numbers. We could also still techincally say, yes it's still open for 3000 people, but now we got an end date as well. I mean we can't do magic. Combined with a minimum amount to ensure we get a real community, for example 1000 users.

No, he just meant if you wonder about something, just PM me and ask.

Edit: Looks like you have confirmed your email now (if you haven't, PM me).

Hi Kora, yu are here
look here Come-from-Beyond said: "@Kora, I want to give u 10k NXT but u don't respond with the address, what has happened?"

https://nxtforum.org/alternate-cryptocurrencies/korasibling-of-qorafree-fair-distributionregistration-countdown!!/

i don't know when the qora source will open

sorry-u mean that last step of confirmation is PM to Mac Red?does everybody must do it?

PM to Mac Red

well, it started with the free distribution coins in Alternate cryptocurrencies section (PoS coin wave)
i started to observe the forum from COMMUNITYCOIN distribution
they (dev team) desperately wanted to gathering 1000 unique users for their distribution, but they ended up with only 300-350 stakeholders and i believe more than 1/4 of them was sock puppets (btw, there was an online form from midway of registration to avoiding the cheaters)
i say it because of amount of dumped coins in exchanges
it continued with SHARECOIN distribution
they had the first anti sock puppet method for their distribution from the beginning i think
there was more than 3000 submitted applications on their online form but they ended up to around 1500 stakeholders and guess what?
the exchange pattern appeared again
but this time there was way more dump than commcoin on exchanges, why? because people learned how to cheat the online form (started to making fake account) and i think more than half of the 1500 stakeholders was fake
same happened to SMURFSCOIN (they had exact the same online form as sharecoin)
and also it happened to KRYPTKOIN too
(the above example coins are those that had online application form (as far as i recall) to avoiding the fake accounts)
it happened in very similar situation with all of the free distributed coins (with a google doc list) as well
they could hardly achieved to max 700 users (in 1 case i think) for their distribution and of course most of them was sock puppets
(just in one case there was a user with 40 sock puppet acc)
btw, there are still some users with high rank of forum (in Alternate cryptocurrencies section) who don't want to be involve in free coins distribution
but they are not to many (maybe 200-300 max)

i think accepting the sock puppet accounts by mistake is inevitable and it's very good that you don't release the details of the form in public (because they can be sure of their method for cheating and will do it again)
but the more we lose time, more people will learn how to cheat
and do not forget, this is free money and as you know, there are always some people who don't care about fairness

so, my opinion is: set a deadline for submission and close it by then (let's say 5 days)
apply your filtering
release the list (no matter how many stakeholders)
distribute

finally, i want to thank you guys for hearing the community voice

Got confirmation page (not email), is this ok?

confirmation recieved and activated, good luck for project