gathering 3000 unique stakeholders is not doable
you guys need to rethink about it
you are just giving them more time to find a way for cheating
according to my research, there are less than 1500 members (in very optimistic view of course) who are active on this forum
and i think there is no way to gathering all of em in kora project
it's just my opinion as a signed up user for kora
Thanks for the well written post.
I can say this to everyone reading.
I no longer think 3000 is doable either. I don't claim it's impossible, just my personal opinion is that it's not very likely to happen. I'm not sure anybody thought it was, but the best way to find something out is to simply try. And that's what I think both me and Kora is doing at the moment. Nobody knows where we'll end up or exactly how it'll look like. But I guess that's the charm as well.
It's a bit funny because I've been hired (and already partly paid) to do this job where I've a) promised to collect 3000 names and b) constructed a highly efficient anti-sockpuppet system. The latter has now begun to look like a major roadblock to achieving a). It feels kinda weird trying to discuss this objectively, about altering my own job requirements. This order has to come directly from Kora. Important to note is the "roadblock" to a) has not popped up because the system's paranoid; the data analysed so far has been pretty much black or white. Either an entry is a sockpuppet or it's not. There's more or less zero room for mistake at this stage (partly why I've told everyone to just relax about a list, you know if you're good or not).
So I got this list in front of me of around 1100 non-sockpuppet entries.
Now, as stated earlier this list has not yet been manually checked. I see this as stage 2 of the filtering process, along with NXT and BTT verification. Surely I expect to catch many suspicious entries where the system has not. There are some connections you cannot fully rely on an automatic system to detect. How many will I find? I dare not even guess. 50? 100? How long will it take to go through? Nobody knows yet. The only thing I know is that I'm not going to wade through anything until registrations have closed = we've reached a set number of non-puppet entries. As everybody knows this is currently set at 3000. This might take at current rate of stage 1 filtering say, 5000 submissions in total to reach.
Going to get some sleep and then I'll export some detailed activity stats to send Kora, so he has more to look at. Some kind of decision will need to be made IMO about reducing the number.
What do you guys think?
Great post Mac Red! I very much appreciate your honesty. Kora is an experiment, and I would like to involve all interested parties in the decision making process. 3000 stakeholders is our goal, but I'm a realist too, and if the consensus opinion is we should close off the registration process with less than 3000 we will. IMO 1000 is the bare minimum number, and as we're over that milestone i'm confident Kora will have enough stakeholders to be viable.
The key for me is do we have enough interested people to start a viable decentralized community? Only time will tell. Many who have registered will dump, or stay inactive. That is inevitable. As long as we have enough people actively engaged with Kora then I will be happy. The advantage of a paid IPO is even with a small number like 73 (NXT) or 137 (Qora) chances are the stakeholders will be reasonably engaged because they paid money for their stake. With Kora our stakes are free, so we should expect a higher rate of people dropping out, or being less active, so to start with we need as high a number of stakeholders as we can.
I really hope the power bounties help attract a number of committed people. That's the key ingredient.
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