[ANN] PayPie - Blockchain-Powered Risk Assessment - page 149.

alphashotgun

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Quote from: levyashin on September 23, 2017, 10:29:38 AM

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Quote from: ParRus on September 22, 2017, 04:31:49 PM

Quote from: Rigorous on September 22, 2017, 04:14:34 PM

Quote from: the_donald on September 22, 2017, 03:20:27 PM

Replace all accountants with AI and machine learning

Even so Paypie will have a place on the market then

In due time. Wink

People expect too much from AI and Machine Learning in such a short time period. The agents need to be trained specifically for accounting. That's going to take a few years. For now we are stuck with humans and human errors.

maybe you're right, people can not get close to creating something like a human brain, all because a person is not perfect in himself. and there is a fear if they create AI - can get out of control like in terminator or other movies this genre Wink

AI will never win against human brain.
God create human, human cant win against God absolutely
Human create technology/AI, technology/AI cant win against human.

But technology/AI can improve many things to facilitate/boost human work.

like 1,5 months ago a read an anonymous article: it said that facebooks AI department had to shut down a projects because computers devolped a language which wasnt understandable for humans. and if the western world exploits the rest of the world just because they can - what would computers do? they have no moral (yes its qestionable if politicians have moral...)

Years before, Kasparov lost to deep blue and that debate has concluded.

Ai always better from humans. There is human error but not ai error. Only ai error based on human errors.

And for paypie, there is not a necessity for amazing ai. The work is not too complex so I don't understand what is the debate for.

the last quoute should calrify many things to people who are supporters of ai in general and in this projekt

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Quote from: the_donald on September 23, 2017, 01:00:30 PM

Quote from: Elkmar on September 23, 2017, 12:48:38 PM

Well, seems like everything is going well for PayPie.

Good reviews, nice media coverage and Korea.

Good job, must have been hard to do, accounting is not the hottest subject out there Grin

the accounting domain does sound a bit dull, but this is the kind of dull that gets you a lot of money in the long run. accountants are well off, regardless how dull their profession seems.

Dull is just so general, I don't think there are people that think it is dull, there are some that like it, and PayPie is not an accountant platform, it can work like one, but it has the added feature, which is the main feature of the ecosystem, of risk prediction management, so accounting will be its second function.

Tylo

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Hello Hello

I have a question about this project, i hope someone would be able to answer it.

So as i understand this project, it somewhat of a "plugin" inside already existing ERP so people can publish informations and invoice into the blockchain.
Ok cool, Paypie will make sure that transactions (invoices) are 100% safe and for that SME will have to pass a KYC process to be able to acccess the lending on PayPie, doesnt this make PayPie a centralised platform ?
Does this mean you have tu use their api to "talk" with the network ?

ParRus

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found one more deep PAYPIE review, I think it will be useful for those who don't want to read almost 100 pages of this topic

https://youtu.be/xlVXfo2LUss

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Quote from: Elkmar on September 23, 2017, 12:48:38 PM

Well, seems like everything is going well for PayPie.

Good reviews, nice media coverage and Korea.

Good job, must have been hard to do, accounting is not the hottest subject out there Grin

the accounting domain does sound a bit dull, but this is the kind of dull that gets you a lot of money in the long run. accountants are well off, regardless how dull their profession seems.

Elkmar

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Well, seems like everything is going well for PayPie.

Good reviews, nice media coverage and Korea.

Good job, must have been hard to do, accounting is not the hottest subject out there Grin

bitcoin-shark

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Quote from: LifeOfDoge on September 21, 2017, 02:11:01 PM

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Quote from: Trrrt on September 21, 2017, 01:43:53 AM

The ico ban is not a problem for us citizen, if they want paypie token they can buy it after the ico and hold it. And for the motivate they can also use a vpn. If you trust in the projet you can buy right after the ico if you have no other possibility, for paypie I think its the right things to do, cause in long term the project can take a huge value.

We all know that it will be better if we can get the bonus Grin

you can get profit by trade it, that's bonus for us.

let's hope for a big increase so we can trade it at a high rate then Wink

The price certainly will increase. What I particularly like is that whoever wants to get acces to certain services and marketplace at Paypie has to buy PPP tokens Grin

Oh yes within first week of when PPP will be available on exchange, price will be10x.This one is better than populous. They are much experienced in accounting and finance plus they already have an established product

How did you come to 10x factor, no way this will happen in the first week. Its good dream about it but it seems to optimistic.
Just hodl and dont be greedy.

Big increase will come when they launch their first product. In my opinion before that x10 is impossible.

Till product will be released it will go up and down but also believe that as product will be out it will go only up.

i think also so when the final product will be released it will go in only one direction,up to the moon...

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Quote from: fb39ca4 on September 23, 2017, 11:14:29 AM

:/ Is day ICo change again. as I remember 5/10 is ICO day. now it was changed to 15/10

As far as i know its always been October 15th. Their marketing is really good and i would stick to that date with no worries.

belechau

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The accounting becomes more and more necessary, since so many projects appear each day, I hope to see them working with this algorithm very soon and bringing us transparency and tranquility. Good luck

Heimer

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Quote from: ParRus on September 23, 2017, 11:06:12 AM

Quote from: cantdecide on September 23, 2017, 05:30:04 AM

Quote from: Wapinter on September 22, 2017, 06:37:45 PM

Exciting news everybody!

The PayPie team is going to Korea! Woohoo! Our CEO, Nick Chandi, will have a MeetUp in Korea to get to know you a little better. If you are from any of the regional locations, It will be an excellent opportunity for you to clarify all your questions with some face-to-face interaction with the team.

First Canada, then the USA, and now Korea! Such a thrilling ride this one has been! So come aboard the PayPie train and meet us for a nice chat! Save the date and see you soon!

https://www.meetup.com/ko-KR/KR-Token-%EB%94%94%EC%A7%80%ED%84%B8-%EC%9E%90%EC%82%B0-%EB%B0%8B%EC%97%85/events/243512383/

Argh :/ I am in Japan from Monday, but can't travel to South Korea for now. Would have loved to take part in such a meet up Sad

Anyways, good luck and have fun in Korea.

work is in full swing! you guys are fine fellows don't sit at one place
Korea is a country of advanced technology and business - I sure that PAYPIE will be adapt and able to find the area of application there

Awesome news guys! Thanks to this Paypie can get huge attention from accounting scene and bring many institutional investors Cheesy

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Quote from: the_donald on September 23, 2017, 08:21:44 AM

Quote from: Trrrt on September 23, 2017, 08:17:39 AM

Really nice for paypie to go in Korea, team continue to spread the word everywhere about the project. Its really nice, paypie start to have a huge visibility and will become a major actor in the accounting world, as a disrupt technologies and a platform for blockchain a compagnies.

I wonder how the market is in Korea though. I haven't heard a lot about it.

Korea market is crazy , the total growth in 2017 is very huge, but the specific number I do not know

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PlayGame.com

:/ Is day ICo change again. as I remember 5/10 is ICO day. now it was changed to 15/10

ParRus

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Quote from: cantdecide on September 23, 2017, 05:30:04 AM

Quote from: Wapinter on September 22, 2017, 06:37:45 PM

Exciting news everybody!

The PayPie team is going to Korea! Woohoo! Our CEO, Nick Chandi, will have a MeetUp in Korea to get to know you a little better. If you are from any of the regional locations, It will be an excellent opportunity for you to clarify all your questions with some face-to-face interaction with the team.

First Canada, then the USA, and now Korea! Such a thrilling ride this one has been! So come aboard the PayPie train and meet us for a nice chat! Save the date and see you soon!

https://www.meetup.com/ko-KR/KR-Token-%EB%94%94%EC%A7%80%ED%84%B8-%EC%9E%90%EC%82%B0-%EB%B0%8B%EC%97%85/events/243512383/

Argh :/ I am in Japan from Monday, but can't travel to South Korea for now. Would have loved to take part in such a meet up Sad

Anyways, good luck and have fun in Korea.

work is in full swing! you guys are fine fellows don't sit at one place
Korea is a country of advanced technology and business - I sure that PAYPIE will be adapt and able to find the area of application there

Voltaje

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Quote from: Tylo on September 23, 2017, 09:37:27 AM

Good project, but doesn't this assume that the company keep there transactions record not encrypted ? The ethereum blockchain is not yet capable of supporting encrypted transaction (unlike monero for example) but this might be the case in a few month / years, they are working on it. I see most company if running their business on the ethereum blockhain making most of their transaction in an anonymous manner.
Also, if you give false data to your investors you are punishable by law and will have to refund the money.

The project looks really good, but don't you think those are problems ?

They may have created a way around for now, when ethereum support encrypted transactions they will include it in the system, besides, all the date is inside the ecosystem, which in itself is encrypted, so it would be something similar to a sandbox I think, but lets wait for an official response, I would like to know the details of it Cheesy

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Quote from: alphashotgun on September 23, 2017, 09:42:17 AM

Quote from: toolucky98 on September 23, 2017, 06:24:57 AM

Quote from: ParRus on September 22, 2017, 04:31:49 PM

Quote from: Rigorous on September 22, 2017, 04:14:34 PM

Quote from: the_donald on September 22, 2017, 03:20:27 PM

Replace all accountants with AI and machine learning

Even so Paypie will have a place on the market then

In due time. Wink

People expect too much from AI and Machine Learning in such a short time period. The agents need to be trained specifically for accounting. That's going to take a few years. For now we are stuck with humans and human errors.

maybe you're right, people can not get close to creating something like a human brain, all because a person is not perfect in himself. and there is a fear if they create AI - can get out of control like in terminator or other movies this genre Wink

AI will never win against human brain.
God create human, human cant win against God absolutely
Human create technology/AI, technology/AI cant win against human.

But technology/AI can improve many things to facilitate/boost human work.

like 1,5 months ago a read an anonymous article: it said that facebooks AI department had to shut down a projects because computers devolped a language which wasnt understandable for humans. and if the western world exploits the rest of the world just because they can - what would computers do? they have no moral (yes its qestionable if politicians have moral...)

Years before, Kasparov lost to deep blue and that debate has concluded.

Ai always better from humans. There is human error but not ai error. Only ai error based on human errors.

And for paypie, there is not a necessity for amazing ai. The work is not too complex so I don't understand what is the debate for.

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Quote from: Tylo on September 23, 2017, 09:37:27 AM

Good project, but doesn't this assume that the company keep there transactions record not encrypted ? The ethereum blockchain is not yet capable of supporting encrypted transaction (unlike monero for example) but this might be the case in a few month / years, they are working on it. I see most company if running their business on the ethereum blockhain making most of their transaction in an anonymous manner.

The documents are stored in IPFS and linked to in the blockchain through hashes. Check the whitepaper for an illustration.

Quote from: Tylo on September 23, 2017, 09:37:27 AM

Also, if you give false data to your investors you are punishable by law and will have to refund the money.

Which false data do you mean?

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Quote from: toolucky98 on September 23, 2017, 06:24:57 AM

Quote from: ParRus on September 22, 2017, 04:31:49 PM

Quote from: Rigorous on September 22, 2017, 04:14:34 PM

Quote from: the_donald on September 22, 2017, 03:20:27 PM

Replace all accountants with AI and machine learning

Even so Paypie will have a place on the market then

In due time. Wink

People expect too much from AI and Machine Learning in such a short time period. The agents need to be trained specifically for accounting. That's going to take a few years. For now we are stuck with humans and human errors.

maybe you're right, people can not get close to creating something like a human brain, all because a person is not perfect in himself. and there is a fear if they create AI - can get out of control like in terminator or other movies this genre Wink

AI will never win against human brain.
God create human, human cant win against God absolutely
Human create technology/AI, technology/AI cant win against human.

But technology/AI can improve many things to facilitate/boost human work.

like 1,5 months ago a read an anonymous article: it said that facebooks AI department had to shut down a projects because computers devolped a language which wasnt understandable for humans. and if the western world exploits the rest of the world just because they can - what would computers do? they have no moral (yes its qestionable if politicians have moral...)

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Quote from: Wapinter on September 22, 2017, 04:51:59 PM

An amazing review on our product

Well, yes, interesting, but very brief. And in general it is already described here. I did not recognize the new one. But it's good that the information is published, the project is moving forward.

Tylo

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Good project, but doesn't this assume that the company keep there transactions record not encrypted ? The ethereum blockchain is not yet capable of supporting encrypted transaction (unlike monero for example) but this might be the case in a few month / years, they are working on it. I see most company if running their business on the ethereum blockhain making most of their transaction in an anonymous manner.
Also, if you give false data to your investors you are punishable by law and will have to refund the money.

The project looks really good, but don't you think those are problems ?

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Quote from: Rigorous on September 23, 2017, 08:49:07 AM

Quote from: toolucky98 on September 23, 2017, 06:24:57 AM

AI will never win against human brain.
God create human, human cant win against God absolutely
Human create technology/AI, technology/AI cant win against human.

But technology/AI can improve many things to facilitate/boost human work.

Who says it's a competition? Maybe it's a collaborative effort.

All I'm saying is that it takes time to train agents, that people should adjust their expectations accordingly. Not that they won't ever be good enough for PayPie to process invoices and other documents.

Oh, im sorry i forgot to erase your quote before, i was just responding to ParRus's opinion.
My point was not about competition, its just AI cant be better than human brain.

Quote from: mjsocool on September 23, 2017, 08:53:02 AM

GOOGLE'S AI WINS FIFTH AND FINAL GAME AGAINST GO GENIUS LEE SEDOL.
see deepblue (AI) can do Cheesy

Lol, that is not the last match in the world Cheesy

Lets see that AI will be a stepping stone for the emergence of a better player, that AI will instead further enhance the ability of his opponent (human) rather than his own ability.
At least, this is what i have seen in other games.

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