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sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
This coin was a scam to start with. Let it bleed out. After 12/12,  there will be no more exchanges which lists it.
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1073
Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

Thanks...I know it was a scam...but maybe we could make it legit? takeover or so?

You would have to reset the blockchain to block 1 as the mined coins were all mined with "fake" hash as the original devs created a way to cheat hash with some special software. The distributed coins are all flawed.

A fork and deactivating masternode? It seems, that some nodes are wrong.

Huh ?

You don't seem to understand.

EVERY Block since Block 1 of this coin has been mined with a modified source which allows attackers to "fake mine" - pretending a much larger hash.

Since the nature of block chains, this invalidates also every legit block in between all the fake blocks.

Block 2 - fake
Block 3 - fake
Block 4 - fake
Block 5 - legit but fake because its mined on top of a fake block
Block 6 - fake
Block 7 - fake
Block 8 - fake
Block 9 - legit but fake because its mined on top of a fake block
Block 10 - fake
Block 11 - fake
etc..

IF you would fix the malicious code in this coin - you'd invalidate ALL the blocks because they would not go through the checks ...

You'd start from scratch...


I don't know how else I could explain... Imagine a house which is usually build on rocks - This house' foundation was made from cardboard and lots of stones on top.. If you want to swap the cardboard, you'd have to remove all stones and re-mount them after you've fixed the foundation...

Interesting. But let me understand better: if you don't fix the malicious code - then all the blocks are "legit" (for this specific blockchain with its specific "tweaked" code), right? And as the malicious code only affects PoW, it could be left untouched, and coin could easily continue to exist and work well as a pure PoS coin..?
Is this right or wrong..?

Sure, this doesn't mean I suggest to revive it Smiley, I am asking this only theoretically - from technical standpoint.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1004
No risk, no fun!
Be honest - every altcoin is scam in the end, we only want BTC

-samsunk

How much big is this scam?
I remember I was really interested in this coin, but from the first announcements I smell scam coin...
Altcoins Smiley gotta be careful.

Yes I know it, but I think that some improve is already possible, like speed up transaction (confirmation) of each block…
Or create a "local" coin for some type of business … like this one… but probably I am a dreamer and the vast majority of alt coins are only a scam (or honeypot) .

The first try to make altcoins serious tradable begun already here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/old-fly-thread-1154550

Greetz
Meta
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
Be honest - every altcoin is scam in the end, we only want BTC

-samsunk

How much big is this scam?
I remember I was really interested in this coin, but from the first announcements I smell scam coin...
Altcoins Smiley gotta be careful.

Yes I know it, but I think that some improve is already possible, like speed up transaction (confirmation) of each block…
Or create a "local" coin for some type of business … like this one… but probably I am a dreamer and the vast majority of alt coins are only a scam (or honeypot) .
member
Activity: 95
Merit: 10
Be honest - every altcoin is scam in the end, we only want BTC

-samsunk
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1000
How much big is this scam?
I remember I was really interested in this coin, but from the first announcements I smell scam coin...
Altcoins Smiley gotta be careful.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
How much big is this scam?
I remember I was really interested in this coin, but from the first announcements I smell scam coin...
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1004
No risk, no fun!
Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

Thanks...I know it was a scam...but maybe we could make it legit? takeover or so?

You would have to reset the blockchain to block 1 as the mined coins were all mined with "fake" hash as the original devs created a way to cheat hash with some special software. The distributed coins are all flawed.

A fork and deactivating masternode? It seems, that some nodes are wrong.

Huh ?

You don't seem to understand.

EVERY Block since Block 1 of this coin has been mined with a modified source which allows attackers to "fake mine" - pretending a much larger hash.

Since the nature of block chains, this invalidates also every legit block in between all the fake blocks.

Block 2 - fake
Block 3 - fake
Block 4 - fake
Block 5 - legit but fake because its mined on top of a fake block
Block 6 - fake
Block 7 - fake
Block 8 - fake
Block 9 - legit but fake because its mined on top of a fake block
Block 10 - fake
Block 11 - fake
etc..

IF you would fix the malicious code in this coin - you'd invalidate ALL the blocks because they would not go through the checks ...

You'd start from scratch...


I don't know how else I could explain... Imagine a house which is usually build on rocks - This house' foundation was made from cardboard and lots of stones on top.. If you want to swap the cardboard, you'd have to remove all stones and re-mount them after you've fixed the foundation...

Hey OCMiner,

I now fully understand :-) Thanks really for ur patience to explain it to a noob in coding like me! Everyday I get more input!
Now, I understand either, this coin cannot saved more.

Meta

legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1240
Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

Thanks...I know it was a scam...but maybe we could make it legit? takeover or so?

You would have to reset the blockchain to block 1 as the mined coins were all mined with "fake" hash as the original devs created a way to cheat hash with some special software. The distributed coins are all flawed.

A fork and deactivating masternode? It seems, that some nodes are wrong.

Huh ?

You don't seem to understand.

EVERY Block since Block 1 of this coin has been mined with a modified source which allows attackers to "fake mine" - pretending a much larger hash.

Since the nature of block chains, this invalidates also every legit block in between all the fake blocks.

Block 2 - fake
Block 3 - fake
Block 4 - fake
Block 5 - legit but fake because its mined on top of a fake block
Block 6 - fake
Block 7 - fake
Block 8 - fake
Block 9 - legit but fake because its mined on top of a fake block
Block 10 - fake
Block 11 - fake
etc..

IF you would fix the malicious code in this coin - you'd invalidate ALL the blocks because they would not go through the checks ...

You'd start from scratch...


I don't know how else I could explain... Imagine a house which is usually build on rocks - This house' foundation was made from cardboard and lots of stones on top.. If you want to swap the cardboard, you'd have to remove all stones and re-mount them after you've fixed the foundation...
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

Thanks...I know it was a scam...but maybe we could make it legit? takeover or so?

You would have to reset the blockchain to block 1 as the mined coins were all mined with "fake" hash as the original devs created a way to cheat hash with some special software. The distributed coins are all flawed.

A fork and deactivating masternode? It seems, that some nodes are wrong.

Wrong? WRONG? This is just....
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003307233/53856034_24699711_answer_1_xlarge.png
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1004
No risk, no fun!
Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

Thanks...I know it was a scam...but maybe we could make it legit? takeover or so?

You would have to reset the blockchain to block 1 as the mined coins were all mined with "fake" hash as the original devs created a way to cheat hash with some special software. The distributed coins are all flawed.

A fork and deactivating masternode? It seems, that some nodes are wrong.
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1240
Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

Thanks...I know it was a scam...but maybe we could make it legit? takeover or so?

You would have to reset the blockchain to block 1 as the mined coins were all mined with "fake" hash as the original devs created a way to cheat hash with some special software. The distributed coins are all flawed.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1004
No risk, no fun!
Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk

Thanks...I know it was a scam...but maybe we could make it legit? takeover or so?
member
Activity: 95
Merit: 10
Dev was a scammer - how to bust those poor lives

-samsunk
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1004
No risk, no fun!
Someone knows where I can download the windows wallet?
I can't find any link here!
This coin is dead...dont care about some delisting from exchanges

Not quite yet, still 0.6BTC volume on ccex  Grin



I wonder why people still trade this. This coin was clearly a scam.

I can't believe it too. Not only a scam but like clever coin it is now a pump & dump happening.. really pathetic peole still do that.

I am very interested in the code. Some github sources?

Greetz
Meta
sr. member
Activity: 335
Merit: 250
Someone knows where I can download the windows wallet?
I can't find any link here!
This coin is dead...dont care about some delisting from exchanges

Not quite yet, still 0.6BTC volume on ccex  Grin



I wonder why people still trade this. This coin was clearly a scam.

I can't believe it too. Not only a scam but like clever coin it is now a pump & dump happening.. really pathetic peole still do that.
hero member
Activity: 978
Merit: 506
Someone knows where I can download the windows wallet?
I can't find any link here!
This coin is dead...dont care about some delisting from exchanges

Not quite yet, still 0.6BTC volume on ccex  Grin



If we could change the code a little bit from the scam lines, so we could create a big comeback...some interested ppl here?

Nay...

But if you wish you can have a fresh clean start, for example "health coin"  Cheesy

Look how agent Smith is offering mr.Anderson a fresh new start  Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epNptdA4bFA

legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
TokenHouse decentralized cryptocurrency exchange
Someone knows where I can download the windows wallet?
I can't find any link here!
This coin is dead...dont care about some delisting from exchanges

Not quite yet, still 0.6BTC volume on ccex  Grin



I wonder why people still trade this. This coin was clearly a scam.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1004
No risk, no fun!
Someone knows where I can download the windows wallet?
I can't find any link here!
This coin is dead...dont care about some delisting from exchanges

Not quite yet, still 0.6BTC volume on ccex  Grin



If we could change the code a little bit from the scam lines, so we could create a big comeback...some interested ppl here?
hero member
Activity: 978
Merit: 506
Someone knows where I can download the windows wallet?
I can't find any link here!
This coin is dead...dont care about some delisting from exchanges

Not quite yet, still 0.6BTC volume on ccex  Grin

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