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jr. member
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I'd like to be involved if you can ensure the security of the service providers, how would you achieve this?
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ID? First time I ever heard of this. Deposit ok sure, name ok yeah. But since when do escorts play the police?
And about SA not dealing with escorts.. Sure, they say that on their ToS and whatever, but I know first hand, and I actually ran a test for this, that a lot and I mean A LOT of girls will accept a meeting straight up, with minimal confirmation (usually just a phone conversation and a few pics), and an agreed upon amount of money.
They all know it's all about discretion. And a huge part of the Ashley Madison leak was people being embarrassed when their spouses or SOs found out they used it to cheat and whatnot.
I'm seeing huge benefits for the escort, yeah it's very safe and functional. But for the customers? I don't know. People do like to keep these things a secret. Consumers especially.
Just my opinion based on some experience. I might be right, I might be wrong. If I was 100% sure I'm right, I wouldn't even be posting here. I'm looking forward to being explained and convinced otherwise.

Our security tech is far beyond AM or SA. Read our setup. No hard drives storing the database, only RAM disks. Database is behind 2 layers of hidden services. For people worried about a leak, SA is far bigger a target, just like AM was.

As far as escorts requiring ID, talk to Sarah ([email protected]) or @SarahPinkApp on Twitter (twitter.com/SarahPinkApp). Some don't require verification, to their detriment. Or join our Slack.

If you are interested and have a public social media profile, we're willing to pay for a dinner with an escort in a major English speaking city and have the two of you discuss the state of the industry, room for apps like Pink, how SA compares, and on and on. Contact me [email protected] to set it up. The main requirements are that the escort has a public Twitter and we both agree on them, and that you publicly talk about the interview afterwards. We'll pay for the escort's time, in addition to $100 for dinner.

As far as benefit to the client, it will be much easier. Especially for last minute bookings. With most sites, you need to go spam several escorts asking for a same day date. Wait an hour, see if some reply. Try to set things up. Deal with people responding who are now annoyed because you are no longer interested. It is like AirBNB before Instant Book. Very annoying and a waste of time for everyone involved. With Pink, this will be far easier.

Thank you for your reply. Also, thanks for the offer to meet an escort to talk about your value propositions. I'll pass on that, and I hope it's not a bluff on your side. If it's not a bluff, it goes to show some level of commitment you have for this project. That's great.
Is there any information on your team's infrastructure?
How many developers?
How many marketing people?
Do you have some escorts already signed up and ready to use the app upon release?
What would be a general strategy of marketing to clients?
Also, I'm still a bit concerned about the ID verifications and linking social media profiles to the app if you want to be a client. Maybe it's just me with the trust issues  Grin
I get it, the app isn't happening without it, just wondering what's the % of people that want to remain anonymous when doing this sort of stuff. Is there a study on this?
newbie
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ID? First time I ever heard of this. Deposit ok sure, name ok yeah. But since when do escorts play the police?
And about SA not dealing with escorts.. Sure, they say that on their ToS and whatever, but I know first hand, and I actually ran a test for this, that a lot and I mean A LOT of girls will accept a meeting straight up, with minimal confirmation (usually just a phone conversation and a few pics), and an agreed upon amount of money.
They all know it's all about discretion. And a huge part of the Ashley Madison leak was people being embarrassed when their spouses or SOs found out they used it to cheat and whatnot.
I'm seeing huge benefits for the escort, yeah it's very safe and functional. But for the customers? I don't know. People do like to keep these things a secret. Consumers especially.
Just my opinion based on some experience. I might be right, I might be wrong. If I was 100% sure I'm right, I wouldn't even be posting here. I'm looking forward to being explained and convinced otherwise.

Our security tech is far beyond AM or SA. Read our setup. No hard drives storing the database, only RAM disks. Database is behind 2 layers of hidden services. For people worried about a leak, SA is far bigger a target, just like AM was.

As far as escorts requiring ID, talk to Sarah ([email protected]) or @SarahPinkApp on Twitter (twitter.com/SarahPinkApp). Some don't require verification, to their detriment. Or join our Slack.

If you are interested and have a public social media profile, we're willing to pay for a dinner with an escort in a major English speaking city and have the two of you discuss the state of the industry, room for apps like Pink, how SA compares, and on and on. Contact me [email protected] to set it up. The main requirements are that the escort has a public Twitter and we both agree on them, and that you publicly talk about the interview afterwards. We'll pay for the escort's time, in addition to $100 for dinner.

As far as benefit to the client, it will be much easier. Especially for last minute bookings. With most sites, you need to go spam several escorts asking for a same day date. Wait an hour, see if some reply. Try to set things up. Deal with people responding who are now annoyed because you are no longer interested. It is like AirBNB before Instant Book. Very annoying and a waste of time for everyone involved. With Pink, this will be far easier.
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And which % you will give to tokenholders? In which countries you planning make this?

We are planning to take 50% of profits per quarter and distribute to shareholders.

We will expand to many countries. For now, the focus is Canada, UK/Ireland, and United States. Shareholders can be worldwide.
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Hmm screening. What kind of screening exactly? As far as I know, people prefer to be anonymous when browsing and visiting "working girls". If the girls are marketing themselves as "escorts" or "sugar babies" instead of prostitu***, then we all have seekingarrangement which has literally thousands of girls. They too have a system in place for screening "sugar daddies". I know, it's probably nothing special, and the website membership costs like $70. Bust just wondering what's the advantage of this platform over seekingarrangement or whatsyourprice?

Most escorts require knowledge of the client's ID. Some require more, like employment information, or even a deposit. This accomplishes a few things. First, it gets rid of timewasters. A LOT of guys call up, talk, just to fantasize about being with a girl. They may even call on the phone just to hear their voice. This is annoying. Some will make appointments, then make up excuses. Escorts also want to know the person isn't LE. They want to know he's safe. That the client will show up on time and pay as agreed.

Sarah, our VP of Product and an active sex worker, has written a few articles about this:

https://medium.com/@PinkApp/providers-for-pink-cd37087eda7a

https://medium.com/@PinkApp/challenges-in-the-business-of-pleasure-d22e9ec03b75

SA does NOT deal with escorts. Anyone selling such services on SA would be banned. For example, SA is not going to end up with an instant book option. Pink is much more transactional and will have better quality clients.


ID? First time I ever heard of this. Deposit ok sure, name ok yeah. But since when do escorts play the police?
And about SA not dealing with escorts.. Sure, they say that on their ToS and whatever, but I know first hand, and I actually ran a test for this, that a lot and I mean A LOT of girls will accept a meeting straight up, with minimal confirmation (usually just a phone conversation and a few pics), and an agreed upon amount of money.
They all know it's all about discretion. And a huge part of the Ashley Madison leak was people being embarrassed when their spouses or SOs found out they used it to cheat and whatnot.
I'm seeing huge benefits for the escort, yeah it's very safe and functional. But for the customers? I don't know. People do like to keep these things a secret. Consumers especially.
Just my opinion based on some experience. I might be right, I might be wrong. If I was 100% sure I'm right, I wouldn't even be posting here. I'm looking forward to being explained and convinced otherwise.
hero member
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I'm just now seeing the UI preview, that actually looks pretty good. Nice and intuitive. Lots of features is nice, but I'd wait and keep it simple until you have a larger user base.

You are correct. We are focusing on a simple flow for now. Everyone has their own 100 favorite ideas. We will slowly add the best ones.

And which % you will give to tokenholders? In which countries you planning make this?
newbie
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Hmm screening. What kind of screening exactly? As far as I know, people prefer to be anonymous when browsing and visiting "working girls". If the girls are marketing themselves as "escorts" or "sugar babies" instead of prostitu***, then we all have seekingarrangement which has literally thousands of girls. They too have a system in place for screening "sugar daddies". I know, it's probably nothing special, and the website membership costs like $70. Bust just wondering what's the advantage of this platform over seekingarrangement or whatsyourprice?

Most escorts require knowledge of the client's ID. Some require more, like employment information, or even a deposit. This accomplishes a few things. First, it gets rid of timewasters. A LOT of guys call up, talk, just to fantasize about being with a girl. They may even call on the phone just to hear their voice. This is annoying. Some will make appointments, then make up excuses. Escorts also want to know the person isn't LE. They want to know he's safe. That the client will show up on time and pay as agreed.

Sarah, our VP of Product and an active sex worker, has written a few articles about this:

https://medium.com/@PinkApp/providers-for-pink-cd37087eda7a

https://medium.com/@PinkApp/challenges-in-the-business-of-pleasure-d22e9ec03b75

SA does NOT deal with escorts. Anyone selling such services on SA would be banned. For example, SA is not going to end up with an instant book option. Pink is much more transactional and will have better quality clients.
newbie
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Another one sex project... Which dividends you mean? We will receive % from each prostitutes? Like souteneur?  Grin

Yes we will take a % from each transaction.
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First post ever on the ol' bitcointalk forums here.  Long time lurker though looking for something innovative.  Have been binge-watching Criminal Minds on Netflix recently and have come across something that correlates to this on Season 9, Ep. 12.  Basically an escort service with the option to pay in bitcoin was part of the episode.  I see you ha e outlined  your security roadmap/plan of attack rather well. The use of ram based servers and Tor gates, while not new, is an extremely effective, yet cumbersome form of data storage/processing.  Basically what my entire point of posting this is what if something were to happen?  What if, after all the background checks for a particular escort or client came back clean, something were to develop such as a serial killer using only YOUR service to facilitate his acts of violence. How would they be stopped?  How could they even be tracked?  Saw the episode and immediately thought of this coin.  Don't take this as FUDing as I feel like this is a reasonable question to ask
  One that I don't think has been discussed yet as its more of a "worst case" scenario type thing.  Thanks in advance and I look forward to hearing more updates on this peoject.!

Well you can come up with these made-for-TV dramatic ideas for any service. What about an AirBnB killer that only goes after places he's already stayed?

Pink is a terrible service for a would-be killer to use. Clients undergo screening through our system, plus additional screening providers may require. There would be a record of each use, at least for a while (we will delete old records). If a provider does not check in after a date, we alert their emergency contacts, and there will be a record in our system of a missing checkin.

And if the attacker is going to follow up with people after a date, then there's no point in using Pink anyways.


Hmm screening. What kind of screening exactly? As far as I know, people prefer to be anonymous when browsing and visiting "working girls". If the girls are marketing themselves as "escorts" or "sugar babies" instead of prostitu***, then we all have seekingarrangement which has literally thousands of girls. They too have a system in place for screening "sugar daddies". I know, it's probably nothing special, and the website membership costs like $70. Bust just wondering what's the advantage of this platform over seekingarrangement or whatsyourprice?
newbie
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I'm just now seeing the UI preview, that actually looks pretty good. Nice and intuitive. Lots of features is nice, but I'd wait and keep it simple until you have a larger user base.

You are correct. We are focusing on a simple flow for now. Everyone has their own 100 favorite ideas. We will slowly add the best ones.
hero member
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Another one sex project... Which dividends you mean? We will receive % from each prostitutes? Like souteneur?  Grin
newbie
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Will you invite more advisors to your team?

I'm also curious about this. What areas do you see yourself needing more advisors in, in the future?

After we finish our B round we're going to be doing a CEO and CFO search.
newbie
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Do you plan to launch in Asia?

Any particular cities you are interested in? We are going to be really busy in 2018 building out the US, Canada, and UK/IE.
newbie
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Then your team is bigger than that of most ICOs out there. How many of those 10 are developers? That's the golden question, right there.

We have around 5 people actually working on product development. We've already started programming the system as well as designing policies.
full member
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"Too many ICOs issue useless tokens that only serve to line their own pockets, and damage whatever product they're making."

This is entirely true. Someone should regulate ICO's.
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Do you plan to launch in Asia?
sr. member
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I'm just now seeing the UI preview, that actually looks pretty good. Nice and intuitive. Lots of features is nice, but I'd wait and keep it simple until you have a larger user base.
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Very interesting idea/ topic. I just might want to get involved.
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Will you invite more advisors to your team?

I'm also curious about this. What areas do you see yourself needing more advisors in, in the future?
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How many people work on this project part time or full time?
At this point, approximately 10. I won't be more precise due to opsec concerns. We're mostly transparent, but about the actual people involved, every bit of obscurity helps maintain operational security.


Then your team is bigger than that of most ICOs out there. How many of those 10 are developers? That's the golden question, right there.
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