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Topic: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - www.middlecoin.com - page 502. (Read 829908 times)

legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Today's payout is 18.4 BTC, with an average hashrate of 728.9. We made 0.0253 BTC per day per MH/s.

Of course, it happens the very same day I try this pool for the first time. I've been mining for 12 hours with 5 MH/s to get 0.048 BTC, a fucking 137%.  Angry

i dont know but i could be that your have immature coins, f.e. nvc or ftc.
ftc needs long to go to btc-e, so u have to look at your income a week and average it.

I've added all the columns including Immature Unexchanged. Am I missing something more?
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Today's payout is 18.4 BTC, with an average hashrate of 728.9. We made 0.0253 BTC per day per MH/s.

Of course, it happens the very same day I try this pool for the first time. I've been mining for 12 hours with 5 MH/s to get 0.048 BTC, a fucking 137%.  Angry

i dont know but i could be that your have immature coins, f.e. nvc or ftc.
ftc needs long to go to btc-e, so u have to look at your income a week and average it.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Today's payout is 18.4 BTC, with an average hashrate of 728.9. We made 0.0253 BTC per day per MH/s.

Of course, it happens the very same day I try this pool for the first time. I've been mining for 12 hours with 5 MH/s to get 0.048 BTC, a fucking 137%.  Angry
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 250
today 80% of my shares got rejected!

One question:

When the pool switch to a coin (A), mine awhile and then switch to another coin (B), But due to my low hash rate, i couldn't submit any accepted share for coin (A), How my proportion will be calculated? In fact my miners tried their best and worked actually.

Is there any chance that due to no accepted share in coin (A), I don't get any piece of coin (A) income ?
member
Activity: 81
Merit: 10
At times it seems I'm not getting enough work and/or not getting work in a timely manner. Is there some kind of bottleneck?

I say this because sometimes my hash just disappears from the main stats page. While cgminer doesn't DC or go into failover mode the timestamps are clearly showing some gaps.

While running load balance between middlecoin (24ms) and another pool (200+ms) I noticed the other pool always having the work priority on both rigs despite 8x the latency.

To be fair though I need to run these comparisons between 2 auto switching  pools and will test against multipool when I get the cryptsy autosell api working.

Dude- (or dude-ett ...jk)

I had the same issue with almost ALL pools I tried.
I personally ended up having to fix my cgminer settings  Roll Eyes

I'm no expert but that was just my situation...

Yeah, you care to expand on that?  Cool

Sorry about your luck with the other pools.

My experience has been the opposite and yes you could always tweak cgminer every time you changed coins if they were different enough.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
At times it seems I'm not getting enough work and/or not getting work in a timely manner. Is there some kind of bottleneck?

I say this because sometimes my hash just disappears from the main stats page. While cgminer doesn't DC or go into failover mode the timestamps are clearly showing some gaps.

While running load balance between middlecoin (24ms) and another pool (200+ms) I noticed the other pool always having the work priority on both rigs despite 8x the latency.

To be fair though I need to run these comparisons between 2 auto switching  pools and will test against multipool when I get the cryptsy autosell api working.

Dude- (or dude-ett ...jk)

I had the same issue with almost ALL pools I tried.
I personally ended up having to fix my cgminer settings  Roll Eyes

I'm no expert but that was just my situation...
member
Activity: 81
Merit: 10
At times it seems I'm not getting enough work and/or not getting work in a timely manner. Is there some kind of bottleneck?

I say this because sometimes my hash just disappears from the main stats page. While cgminer doesn't DC or go into failover mode the timestamps are clearly showing some gaps.

While running load balance between middlecoin (24ms) and another pool (200+ms) I noticed the other pool always having the work priority on both rigs despite 8x the latency.

To be fair though I need to run these comparisons between 2 auto switching  pools and will test against multipool when I get the cryptsy autosell api working.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
we were mining nvc a lot and i think its on the way...  Grin
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
Today's payout is 18.4 BTC, with an average hashrate of 728.9. We made 0.0253 BTC per day per MH/s.
What's the problem ? We made a half of normal.

If you were mining BTC you would have .0134 and if you were mining LTC you would have 1.2237 LTC or 0.03375 BTC.  So mining the most profitable didn't seem to turn out right today.  But, there are still a lot of immature/unexchanged coins left from the day..
member
Activity: 102
Merit: 10
Today's payout is 18.4 BTC, with an average hashrate of 728.9. We made 0.0253 BTC per day per MH/s.
What's the problem ? We made a half of normal.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
I hope this hasn't already been asked- but what coins do you NOT support?

-He does NOT support SHA-256 based coins. Only scrypt coins. Now, getting more specific...

Like on "coinwarz.com" are there any coins there that you do not support?

http://middlecoin.com/faq.html: What currencies do you mine?

I can't make that information public either. But I consistently check the profitability of coins that are put on exchanges. So the basic answer is "the most profitable ones".


I you can't give specifics- can you give us a number of ~or~ yes-or-no?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2854693 - 02-Aug-2013: We are now trading on three exchanges. And we have 26 coins in the rotation.

As to more specific than that, you can peruse posts by h2odysee to get hints as to which coins have been mined at some point. He won't give us a list, its in the FAQ (as listed above), but some that he has either directly or indirectly confirmed are: FTC, CAP, LTC, CGB, NVC, LKY, FST, and perhaps CHN. Note that all these hints were gathered from past posts by him here on Bitcoin Forum, and are only indicative of what may have been mined at that point in time, and may have been suspended from active use... or may still be a possible option if his script picks them.

The official answer, as the FAQ says, is that he won't reveal it.


Also, would 360-380Kh/s be an okay amount of power to use your pool? Or would it go to waste and not be worth my time  Tongue

H20 is mining with 2x 7970s, which is about 1.2MH. I've personally got three 6970s pointed there, about 1.4MH, and as soon as I get a new power supply on Tuesday, will setup my three 7950s for another 1.7MH.

You don't have to have a ton of processing power to mine on pools... in fact pool mining is preferable for smaller farms like yours or mine, because most coins, solo mining with a small farm is unfeasible with regards to the price of power to the rarity of block reward. The question is if a profitability switching pool like this (much like the pool hopping clients of old) is more profitable than just pointing at a consistently profitable coin  (averaged over time... see also coinchoose, sort by the 7-day column) and staying the course for a long run. Some people are running those checks, but it still will take some time.

As for me, even though I only have 2-3MH invested (which is a lot of money for me, between buying cards, motherboards, PSUs, and the power itself used), mining on a switcher site is easier in the short run. I've been mining on multipool for about 3 or 4 weeks until I decided to get a baseline over the past week, and now I'll check how I far on this site with the same machine. Judging by an average of the 5 people above and below my hash rate, at very worst... I'll make slightly better than I was at Multipool. At best... I'll make a HELL of a lot better than I was at Multipool. One upside is I don't have to worry about selling off my coins manually, I'll just get them off the bat.

With the number you said... I'd guess you are bringing a 6870 to the table... thats what my first mining card was in my desktop, and I still mine with it from time to time.


THANK YOU- for scouring through all the pages for this info!

I already knew that he wouldn't support SHA-256 coins, and I was hoping just a total- like the one you said.  Tongue

About the gpu...uhh-well... ... I am using dual HD7750s overclocked. my total power pull is something like 120watts between the two but I hope to eventually upgrade (my MOBO doesn't support crossfire but has 1-16x and 3-1x pcie slots--I like the lack of crossfire because one gpu will always be free to do work~)

Another PC in the house has a 5750 but I didn't set it up yet so I get hardware errors like it's throwing a drunk party--
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
I hope this hasn't already been asked- but what coins do you NOT support?

Like on "coinwarz.com" are there any coins there that you do not support?

I you can't give specifics- can you give us a number of ~or~ yes-or-no?

that would be appreciated. It doesn't matter TOO much to me, mostly curiosity...
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Also, would 360-380Kh/s be an okay amount of power to use your pool? Or would it go to waste and not be worth my time  Tongue

On the rig I game with I often hash at 230 KH/s or so (I tone it down a lot when I game, and run it full-speed when I'm away from the PC). Even so, I've had no real problems with lost shares above and beyond what we experience normally here (which is the same even if you run 50 million MH/s). My share rate is around 0.3/minute at 230 KH/s, but it's still something. And it's more profitable than mining other coins so far as I can tell!
Oh, okay.

I get about 0.6 on one and o.3 on another card...I am assuming that the 0.3 is caused by that being my display gpu (my hashrates go up by 50+ just by turning it off)
legendary
Activity: 954
Merit: 1000
I hope this hasn't already been asked- but what coins do you NOT support?

-He does NOT support SHA-256 based coins. Only scrypt coins. Now, getting more specific...

Like on "coinwarz.com" are there any coins there that you do not support?

http://middlecoin.com/faq.html: What currencies do you mine?

I can't make that information public either. But I consistently check the profitability of coins that are put on exchanges. So the basic answer is "the most profitable ones".


I you can't give specifics- can you give us a number of ~or~ yes-or-no?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2854693 - 02-Aug-2013: We are now trading on three exchanges. And we have 26 coins in the rotation.

As to more specific than that, you can peruse posts by h2odysee to get hints as to which coins have been mined at some point. He won't give us a list, its in the FAQ (as listed above), but some that he has either directly or indirectly confirmed are: FTC, CAP, LTC, CGB, NVC, LKY, FST, and perhaps CHN. Note that all these hints were gathered from past posts by him here on Bitcoin Forum, and are only indicative of what may have been mined at that point in time, and may have been suspended from active use... or may still be a possible option if his script picks them.

The official answer, as the FAQ says, is that he won't reveal it.


Also, would 360-380Kh/s be an okay amount of power to use your pool? Or would it go to waste and not be worth my time  Tongue

H20 is mining with 2x 7970s, which is about 1.2MH. I've personally got three 6970s pointed there, about 1.4MH, and as soon as I get a new power supply on Tuesday, will setup my three 7950s for another 1.7MH.

You don't have to have a ton of processing power to mine on pools... in fact pool mining is preferable for smaller farms like yours or mine, because most coins, solo mining with a small farm is unfeasible with regards to the price of power to the rarity of block reward. The question is if a profitability switching pool like this (much like the pool hopping clients of old) is more profitable than just pointing at a consistently profitable coin  (averaged over time... see also coinchoose, sort by the 7-day column) and staying the course for a long run. Some people are running those checks, but it still will take some time.

As for me, even though I only have 2-3MH invested (which is a lot of money for me, between buying cards, motherboards, PSUs, and the power itself used), mining on a switcher site is easier in the short run. I've been mining on multipool for about 3 or 4 weeks until I decided to get a baseline over the past week, and now I'll check how I far on this site with the same machine. Judging by an average of the 5 people above and below my hash rate, at very worst... I'll make slightly better than I was at Multipool. At best... I'll make a HELL of a lot better than I was at Multipool. One upside is I don't have to worry about selling off my coins manually, I'll just get them off the bat.

With the number you said... I'd guess you are bringing a 6870 to the table... thats what my first mining card was in my desktop, and I still mine with it from time to time.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
I hope this hasn't already been asked- but what coins do you NOT support?

Like on "coinwarz.com" are there any coins there that you do not support?

I you can't give specifics- can you give us a number of ~or~ yes-or-no?

that would be appreciated. It doesn't matter TOO much to me, mostly curiosity...
----

Also, would 360-380Kh/s be an okay amount of power to use your pool? Or would it go to waste and not be worth my time  Tongue

On the rig I game with I often hash at 230 KH/s or so (I tone it down a lot when I game, and run it full-speed when I'm away from the PC). Even so, I've had no real problems with lost shares above and beyond what we experience normally here (which is the same even if you run 50 million MH/s). My share rate is around 0.3/minute at 230 KH/s, but it's still something. And it's more profitable than mining other coins so far as I can tell!
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
I hope this hasn't already been asked- but what coins do you NOT support?

Like on "coinwarz.com" are there any coins there that you do not support?

I you can't give specifics- can you give us a number of ~or~ yes-or-no?

that would be appreciated. It doesn't matter TOO much to me, mostly curiosity...
----

Also, would 360-380Kh/s be an okay amount of power to use your pool? Or would it go to waste and not be worth my time  Tongue
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 119
Today's payout is 18.4 BTC, with an average hashrate of 728.9. We made 0.0253 BTC per day per MH/s.
hero member
Activity: 572
Merit: 500
no worries, I let it run for a few days

For some reason it has picked up my speed, now at 7.3820Mh/s
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
sikman, let it run a few days.

hashrate is low when we are mining fast coins with low diff.
but the payouts are good at this pool.
hero member
Activity: 572
Merit: 500
Am I wasting my time again?

A few weeks ago I gave this a go for 24hours with 7MH and only got 0.096btc, less than half if I was just mining LTC/FTC

I decided to give it another try and for the last hour its reporting my speed between 2-3MH and this time I have close to 9MH ( Edit, now its unit 2MH


1KuWngfeKT54WDEidFjHQLzsfHmf1ZA8TS   2.2276MH/s


1KuWngfeKT54WDEidFjHQLzsfHmf1ZA8TS   1.9853Mh/s
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 119
Is there getwork I can put in my cgminer settings?   seems stratum likes to disconnect every few minutes for me... unless that is suppose to happen and nobody is responding to me..

Well, I just disconnected everyone just now accidentally. That's not supposed to happen.

But it's normal to see disconnects that last a couple of seconds, every 10 minutes or so. That's when it switches coins.

There is no getwork.
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