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I see the possibilities what we can do with the merged mining coin for the Quark community as outlined by Quarkfx. Sounds really great.

What I don't yet see is the following:

- How can the merged mining coin get value (will it be present at exchanges)?
- How will it attract miners to mine for the merged mining coin?
- Do you want merchants to accept the merged mining coin?
- How will it be visible that Quark has a merged mining coin (possibility to hold both coins in one wallet?)



- How can the merged mining coin get value (will it be present at exchanges)?

I believe i have solutions here and yes it should be exchangeable.

- How will it attract miners to mine for the merged mining coin?

again sorry for being light on but i have a solution here,\i want to get into contact with Max first.

- Do you want merchants to accept the merged mining coin?

not specifically, but i think it will be inevitable.

- How will it be visible that Quark has a merged mining coin (possibility to hold both coins in one wallet?)

this is a great idea it is some work - but it would be great !
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Yes Kolin, save Quark. I mean, Quark will most likely "survive" but I guess even to you it is not appealing to hold 247 millions of Quark and noone else wants to exchange it with you. As you may have noticed many people sold their Quarks and if you are going to laugh away problems that everyone else in the active community agrees exist then I can see more people turning their back on Quark. The hashrate issue is directly connected to price and trust in Quark, so yeah, we should and will do something about it.



i can answer all that , no problem.

I'm pretty certain I know who sold and it wasn't that many people, because most of group "non tech' did take Bills advice and didn't throw the house in.

as soon as a name that "group Tech" recognized was involved "Max K" they held and new BTC holders from the alt community came in.

they then sold out - and some of the original sub 200 sat "traders" sold , and here we are, hash is nominal and i'd like it higher , but mostly i'd like to try this solution we are hashing out for other reasons.

but we will develop as we go.

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Thanks quarkfx's proposal, coinmama and others(DI,VIC,reRaise etc) involved in this topic. Especially thanks cryptohunter for brought up the companion coin proposals etc
 
Yeah agree with silvermetal we still have a lot of things need to be ironed out, a lot of possible solutions need to be openly discussed.

I really like quarkfx's "Community Premine" + merge mine(other members proposals) + a companion coin  with  continuous innovation features  idea, you could sort of  think it as a way of crowd funding for Quark Project.

But since this will not be a quick nor easy answer we need more community members to actively involved and discuses it as well as general consensus!

So my proposal is why don't we, reverse the order,  do the Democratical Foundation part first?  If we can get enough interests and community collective intellectual brain power we sure can come up solutions for those difficult questions above..

My two Quarks Smiley

 

Hai, I would love to have that Foundation but my experience tells me that we will loose a lot of time if we first try to create a renewed Foundation. It´s simply more complicated (paper work!) than releasing a companion coin (even though that will also be complicated to do). Setting up an interim team that prepares the rest sounds to me more realistic - especially as this is currently more or less the case - and I have no doubts we can involve the community by inviting them to the discussion. Maybe post a link on Reddit.

Also, even if we had a working Foundation, we can´t decide easily , we first need an agreement with a developer, which is why I think we should find an agreement, work it out, look if we find motivated developers and then do it.

Yeah, do it! Wink
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Thanks quarkfx's proposal, coinmama and others(DI,VIC,reRaise etc) involved in this topic. Especially thanks cryptohunter for brought up the companion coin proposals etc
 
Yeah agree with silvermetal we still have a lot of things need to be ironed out, a lot of possible solutions need to be openly discussed.

I really like quarkfx's "Community Premine" + merge mine(other members proposals) + a companion coin  with  continuous innovation features  idea, you could sort of  think it as a way of crowd funding for Quark Project.

But since this will not be a quick nor easy answer we need more community members to actively involved and discuses it as well as general consensus!

So my proposal is why don't we, reverse the order,  do the Democratical Foundation part first?  If we can get enough interests and community collective intellectual brain power we sure can come up solutions for those difficult questions above..

My two Quarks Smiley

 
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I see the possibilities what we can do with the merged mining coin for the Quark community as outlined by Quarkfx. Sounds really great.

What I don't yet see is the following:
- How can the merged mining coin get value (will it be present at exchanges)?
- How will it attract miners to mine for the merged mining coin?
- Do you want merchants to accept the merged mining coin?
- How will it be visible that Quark has a merged mining coin (possibility to hold both coins in one wallet?)

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ha ha i'm sorry to laugh guys but 'm hearing a lot of "save Quark" ha ha

Yes Kolin, save Quark. I mean, Quark will most likely "survive" but I guess even to you it is not appealing to hold 247 millions of Quark and noone else wants to exchange it with you. As you may have noticed many people sold their Quarks and if you are going to laugh away problems that everyone else in the active community agrees exist then I can see more people turning their back on Quark. The hashrate issue is directly connected to price and trust in Quark, so yeah, we should and will do something about it.

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Very interesting, i would be glad if you go into details.

Conditions:

A merge mining coin only makes sense to me if
a) there will be a prospect for a long-term value and
b) it is no direct competitor with Quark

This is why I am against a random roin that merge-mines. The coin should have a longer distribution scheme, let´s say 20 years and a different blockrate, say 3-6 minutes. This would make it distinguishable to Quark and avoid a fast boost with a short bust. When I said this could be an "experimental" coin I didn´t mean to think of it as Bitcoin Testnet but rather as a coin with a higher probability of hard forks when implementing new features.

To experiment on a different coin would sort of solve the discussion on whether we should change the Quark source code. As you know, some people wanted to push things forward and other were sceptical if that wouldn´t we a too high risk factor. To have a longer blockrate and distribution scheme would avoid the coin becoming a direct competitor with Quark as when it comes to adoption for many in-store trades 30 seconds would still be more attractive than 3-6 minutes and the inflation rate would be way higher as with Quark.

Challenges and Solutions:

Of course we need to take care that the coin is neither pumped nor dumped massively. If we want to be serious here, we should go for a currency that encourage community involvement rather than speculation as it happened several times with Quark. Even though premining has for good reason I think there is a way to use premine to guarantee a certain price stability and (yes) trust into the community, namely, if we dedicate 100% of the premine for community projects. I would call this approach "Community Premine":

We premine say 10% of the coin and slowly distribute it over say 3 years use it for the following cause:
a) Payout on discussion forum: We set up a fresh forum for Quark and "Experimental Quark" that substitutes forum.qrk.cc and has some sort of Activity measurement. Top 10 users are paid each months in that currency.
b) Payout on chat: We use a faucet to distribute the currency for people who chat on #quarkuniverse
c) Payout for bounties: a fixed amount is used for bounties where users can propose and vote for what is needed >> this affords a solid Foundation structure (will come back to this later on)
d) Payout for representants of the community
e) + more activity solutions

As you see, there is no premine used for the developer because I believe every premine payout to the developer will raise doubts  whether the developer want to enrich themselves. However, we need to and should pay the developers for their work, but I think we can do it differently:

We set up a pool with a fee of 1% that will be dedicated to the developers. Those of us who want to fund the developer agree on a mining plan that will give back to the developer. This way we actually pay for their work and give them shares of the currency at the same time, which will foster self-interest. We can also agree what their "base" work is and then pay them share of the bounties where every bounty needs to be democratically blessed by the Foundation.

Democratical Foundation:

I repeated my proposal on that many times and will do it here again: To get some stability into the community we need a Foundation that is elected and has power and capacity to lead. Currently we are dealing with a structure that is not very transparent. However, as far as I understand it from talks with most Foundation members there is a great interest to change this situation from both sides: community and foundation. Currently we have three to four working teams beside the Foundation (QuarkUniverse, QuarkPlanet, QuarkLabs and QuarkPress) that are dedictad to the development of Quark.

What can we do?

We renew the Foundation and make the teams integrated part of the community. Everyone can become part of the Foundation by paying a deposit (say an equivalent of 50-100 USD) that is refunded with a short puffer (say 4 weeks) if the person decides to leave the Foundation. By becoming part of the Foundation the person has the right to become and/or elect representants. Representants stay elected for 12 months. Those persons are also paid out of the premine (see above c).

This of course needs to be worked out which is why I believe we should gather active members for a range of 6 months to form an interim structure that prepares the change without getting paid.

This is the graphic that I made (where QuarkComm represents QuarkLabs and QuarkPress)



Please post your comments.


P.S.: No matter if you agree or disagree I would like to encourage everyone to make things happen. Some of our members managed to get in touch with Max and we have the chance to keep the dialogue alive. We shouldn´t waste it.

 
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Hey everyone, please check out this post and comment/pledge, we have a new Concept GUI in the works:
http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/29pigg/testing_testingnew_quark_wallet_gui_in_the_works/

Details:
"Hello Everyone!

I am pleased to announce that there is a concept GUI wallet  in the works by two of our core Quark community members:

Someguy1234...!! (C++ coder)
and Undercard!! (Graphics designer/ mobile wallet splashpage creator etc).


**GOAL: To make a sleek and attractive new wallet with unique features that will be  fun and  user friendly.**

This concept of this wallet project has been in the works for some time and has some new social and mining features that have been added to the Qt by someguy:D..(before the release of the new user interface itself).


We ask you to please test this wallet here and give feedback!!:
Download here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/omn0mwfcwt63xdr/quarkcoin-qt-social-2.3.exe

What additional features would you like to see? Suggestions?

***Also, if you believe in the power of the Quark community to get *important infrastructure projects* created- *please PLEDGE a donation* to this project to show your interest & support to keep it going!!***

Sample Images(without concept GUI "skins" attached):

IRC Quark U Chat image: https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/5319249dee145b045b96a60b/5322ada25d3cdc77703507bf/1024x600/d6b4db99d4bbc24bb717ba51d75881bd/chat.png

IRC Quark U Chat image 2: https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/5319249dee145b045b96a60b/5322ada25d3cdc77703507bf/1040x660/ddcb41dede0a88ff75dbc0d130672a63/Preview-1.JPG

Wallet Miner image: https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/5319249dee145b045b96a60b/5322ada25d3cdc77703507bf/1037x653/842586e26e5ab636602a0060eaecf56e/Preview-2.JPG"

So till now I have 2 issues, one is that the ctrl+tab is not working, and second when selecting send it sends my mouse pointer to send or if I click receive again it sends my pointer to export.
edit : also when I have a conversation with someone in the `social` tab I can't close it, could be useful to put a right-click and close option and also rightclick and whois on that user.
later edit: the copy ctrl+c also doesn't work and the hyperlinks inside the irc although they are highlighted and blue they don't open when I click on them...

- also when selecting a different conversation and then going back into the original channel/conversation it takes me to the top of the screen..

Can these be put in a to do list ?

as a future improvement can you add our hashrate into `mining` tab so that when we click start mining we can see whats the hashrate and other info like `a block was found x seconds ago`, and clickning on that takes us to qrk.blockr.io into that block details. what do you think ?
Maok,
I have written to the dev for the GUI(someguy123..)-But also is there any chance you can post on the official Reddit thread as well? http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/29pigg/testing_testingnew_quark_wallet_gui_in_the_works/
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@cryptohunter isn't it a better idea for those investors you're talking about to simply create a development pot instead cheating and create a superblock out of nothing or companion coin ? The latters will bring very negative press while the former will prove that the investors care about Quark. I'm not an investor per se but I'm willing to donate monthly to any development fund publicly announced by the dev team.


Yes, i mean that would be way better. However that will not happen. People just don't donate. The logic is why donate to things that benefit the entire qrk community even those that don't donate anything. The superblock is simply a 10% donation from everyone if you want to look at it like that. That donation will be rewarded proportionally too so win win.

Sure i mean if every qrk investor would donate to a development pot that would be nice. ROI projects are really the only way to get investment that way though from my experience. Doge seems a special case, they seem to raise funds from super whales with ease.

QRK just lost another 10% today ..... that was the development pot right there? come on guys step up and do something before qrk is totally beyond help.

All the we are discussing possibly doing something that may help is not what the market wants to hear.



UPDATE ON DONATIONS FOR THE GUI PROJECT!!-
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DONATE TO THIs PROJECT and CHECK the latest updates here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/29pigg/testing_testingnew_quark_wallet_gui_in_the_works/

Coinmama 1k Qrk

Billy/undercard 5k Qrk (donating to his own project! does this count?! Sure does!! For double Karma points!!)

bronevik 5k

10 K from the foundation!!

1k Qrk from Quark Universe

P.S...
Care to change your mind about donations for Projects @Cryptohunter?Wink

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We found some bugs in the paper wallet generator:
http://www.qrkwallets.org/

The bugs are first noticed when one cannot take a private key generated from one of the pages and place it in the "Wallet Details" page to get the details of that key.  This indicates that there are four lines of code that need to be changed:

From Line 5280 in the qrkwallets.org html file:
Code:
// 51 characters base58, always starts with a '5'
ECKey.isWalletImportFormat = function (key) {
key = key.toString();
return (ECKey.privateKeyPrefix == 0x80) ?
(/^5[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{50}$/.test(key)) :
(/^9[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{50}$/.test(key));
};

// 52 characters base58
ECKey.isCompressedWalletImportFormat = function (key) {
key = key.toString();
return (ECKey.privateKeyPrefix == 0x80) ?
(/^[LK][123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{51}$/.test(key)) :
(/^c[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{51}$/.test(key));
};

Several things are leftover from bitcoin code, such as the '5' and the L and K and the 0x80.  It should be changed to this:
Code:
	// 51 characters base58, always starts with a '7'
ECKey.isWalletImportFormat = function (key) {
key = key.toString();
return (ECKey.privateKeyPrefix == 0xBA) ?
(/^7[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{50}$/.test(key)) :
(/^9[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{50}$/.test(key));
};

// 52 characters base58
ECKey.isCompressedWalletImportFormat = function (key) {
key = key.toString();
return (ECKey.privateKeyPrefix == 0xBA) ?
(/^[U][123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{51}$/.test(key)) :
(/^c[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{51}$/.test(key));
};

Additionally there is still a link to the bitaddress.org github repo.

Yikes, thanks Hash E!
I will contact the person whom I believe might be able to help with this!
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Just want to add my suggestions how to possible find a way out of the situations:

I am not against changing the code, not even massively like it would be the case with adding a superblock, but I am against the superblock as the only strategy to move out of this situation. People will see it as it is: an easy and probably desperate move to save Quark. I don´t see how that would help Quark even shortterm. I think we should go for a merge mining approach that integrates some structural changes and turn Quark back to a promising investment.

The basic idea was that people would mine Quark because it had enough value which isn´t currently the case and will probably stay like this for several years. That´s why I think we should look for a merge mining solution. However, I don´t see other usable cPoW coins who could be seriously used for that. Why not creating a composite coin that experiments with some of the new features that are currently out there. We could use it as a sort of test baloon and integrate the features that do well into Quark.

At the same time, I think (I mentioned that many times on the qrk.cc forum) we need to find a perspective for the foundation and rewrite the concept. I made proposals and I am willing to repeat them here as well if there is any interest.

some good ideas here !
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ha ha i'm sorry to laugh guys but 'm hearing a lot of "save Quark" ha ha

when in the predicted model Quark wouldn't have been at this price at this time.

so what are we saving it from ?

a higher price ha ha?


However the Hash issue does need a solution, and we all need to work hard including myself on this !

i think we have the answer there we just need to agree on it.
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We found some bugs in the paper wallet generator:
http://www.qrkwallets.org/

The bugs are first noticed when one cannot take a private key generated from one of the pages and place it in the "Wallet Details" page to get the details of that key.  This indicates that there are four lines of code that need to be changed:

From Line 5280 in the qrkwallets.org html file:
Code:
// 51 characters base58, always starts with a '5'
ECKey.isWalletImportFormat = function (key) {
key = key.toString();
return (ECKey.privateKeyPrefix == 0x80) ?
(/^5[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{50}$/.test(key)) :
(/^9[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{50}$/.test(key));
};

// 52 characters base58
ECKey.isCompressedWalletImportFormat = function (key) {
key = key.toString();
return (ECKey.privateKeyPrefix == 0x80) ?
(/^[LK][123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{51}$/.test(key)) :
(/^c[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{51}$/.test(key));
};

Several things are leftover from bitcoin code, such as the '5' and the L and K and the 0x80.  It should be changed to this:
Code:
	// 51 characters base58, always starts with a '7'
ECKey.isWalletImportFormat = function (key) {
key = key.toString();
return (ECKey.privateKeyPrefix == 0xBA) ?
(/^7[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{50}$/.test(key)) :
(/^9[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{50}$/.test(key));
};

// 52 characters base58
ECKey.isCompressedWalletImportFormat = function (key) {
key = key.toString();
return (ECKey.privateKeyPrefix == 0xBA) ?
(/^[U][123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{51}$/.test(key)) :
(/^c[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{51}$/.test(key));
};

Additionally there is still a link to the bitaddress.org github repo.


hey thanks for this feedback #E

so are you talking about the native code now? the Quark wallet ?
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@cryptohunter isn't it a better idea for those investors you're talking about to simply create a development pot instead cheating and create a superblock out of nothing or companion coin ? The latters will bring very negative press while the former will prove that the investors care about Quark. I'm not an investor per se but I'm willing to donate monthly to any development fund publicly announced by the dev team.


Yes, i mean that would be way better. However that will not happen. People just don't donate. The logic is why donate to things that benefit the entire qrk community even those that don't donate anything. The superblock is simply a 10% donation from everyone if you want to look at it like that. That donation will be rewarded proportionally too so win win.

Sure i mean if every qrk investor would donate to a development pot that would be nice. ROI projects are really the only way to get investment that way though from my experience. Doge seems a special case, they seem to raise funds from super whales with ease.

QRK just lost another 10% today ..... that was the development pot right there? come on guys step up and do something before qrk is totally beyond help.

All the we are discussing possibly doing something that may help is not what the market wants to hear.





 
This is what has been happening to the coin from the mega pump in December.
Talks , plans , talks , discussions and nothing in reality. No development only abandoned plans.

There is no community , only  a bunch of bagholders in denial of reality.


No i think we have had a lot of crying trolls - and that was all in keeping with what should happen, it just happened a bit quicker than expected so the model sped up that is all , this was related to exuberance, but everything is inline as i see it.

The model would have gone:

-  from Group tech to group non tech in a slow manner .
- organic rise from 25 to 100 sat to up to 1000 sat
- a lot of the distribution would have occurred here

then
- Price appreciation but not enough to  grab attention.

- a move past the 2000 to 3000 sat range

- then as a solid market force set in and superior distribution tolling and crying (like we saw)


so everything is in order as i see it.
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We found some bugs in the paper wallet generator:
http://www.qrkwallets.org/

The bugs are first noticed when one cannot take a private key generated from one of the pages and place it in the "Wallet Details" page to get the details of that key.  This indicates that there are four lines of code that need to be changed:

From Line 5280 in the qrkwallets.org html file:
Code:
// 51 characters base58, always starts with a '5'
ECKey.isWalletImportFormat = function (key) {
key = key.toString();
return (ECKey.privateKeyPrefix == 0x80) ?
(/^5[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{50}$/.test(key)) :
(/^9[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{50}$/.test(key));
};

// 52 characters base58
ECKey.isCompressedWalletImportFormat = function (key) {
key = key.toString();
return (ECKey.privateKeyPrefix == 0x80) ?
(/^[LK][123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{51}$/.test(key)) :
(/^c[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{51}$/.test(key));
};

Several things are leftover from bitcoin code, such as the '5' and the L and K and the 0x80.  It should be changed to this:
Code:
	// 51 characters base58, always starts with a '7'
ECKey.isWalletImportFormat = function (key) {
key = key.toString();
return (ECKey.privateKeyPrefix == 0xBA) ?
(/^7[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{50}$/.test(key)) :
(/^9[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{50}$/.test(key));
};

// 52 characters base58
ECKey.isCompressedWalletImportFormat = function (key) {
key = key.toString();
return (ECKey.privateKeyPrefix == 0xBA) ?
(/^[U][123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{51}$/.test(key)) :
(/^c[123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz]{51}$/.test(key));
};

Additionally there is still a link to the bitaddress.org github repo.
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Cryptohunter,
I want to thank you for all the time, effort and energy you are placing into your proposals and keeping this thread and discussions going- I personally am not against the idea of a superblock concept per se, if it had been a part of the original design of a coin..However I think that forking Quark's code to place the superblock and thererfore change the original idea/inflation model is not the way to go and may create more negative attention/mistrust for Quark than anything.

The idea of a companion coin to Quark is somewhat appealing, if there were a way to help boost the hashrate (the only real issue for Quark), without creating a fork- while also offering features that Quark supporters might like to see, as well as a development fund for projects - This is why I was asking you to lay out what this might look like, say if the anon features/superblock were added to a companion coin..Is it not possible to accomplish this without affecting Quarks code itself?- Quark itself should remain untouched.
Therefore I tend to lean toward your option A if something could be worked out, that would have no changes to Quark code itself.



Well just about the only thing the companion coin can not solve is the hash rate issue. However, yes the companion coin would not mean touching or altering qrk itself.

And then QuarkFX says...:

I think we should go for a merge mining approach that integrates some structural changes and turn Quark back to a promising investment.

The basic idea was that people would mine Quark because it had enough value which isn´t currently the case and will probably stay like this for several years. That´s why I think we should look for a merge mining solution. However, I don´t see other usable cPoW coins who could be seriously used for that. Why not creating a composite coin that experiments with some of the new features that are currently out there. We could use it as a sort of test baloon and integrate the features that do well into Quark.

And whammo- we are getting closer to a solution, a "companion coin" to merge-mine with Quark, something that will test new features people are calling for...mined with Quark, increasing hashrate- I see this as a completely positive step in the right direction, as although Quark is somewhat safer from a 51% due to its checkpoint system, raising the hashrate will add an extra level of security.. Additionally a companion coin with some new test features (anonymity etc) could help assist in the raising of $ for Quarks infrastructure--Can we expand the discussion on this, community?
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Just want to add my suggestions how to possible find a way out of the situations:

I am not against changing the code, not even massively like it would be the case with adding a superblock, but I am against the superblock as the only strategy to move out of this situation. People will see it as it is: an easy and probably desperate move to save Quark. I don´t see how that would help Quark even shortterm. I think we should go for a merge mining approach that integrates some structural changes and turn Quark back to a promising investment.

The basic idea was that people would mine Quark because it had enough value which isn´t currently the case and will probably stay like this for several years. That´s why I think we should look for a merge mining solution. However, I don´t see other usable cPoW coins who could be seriously used for that. Why not creating a composite coin that experiments with some of the new features that are currently out there. We could use it as a sort of test baloon and integrate the features that do well into Quark.

At the same time, I think (I mentioned that many times on the qrk.cc forum) we need to find a perspective for the foundation and rewrite the concept. I made proposals and I am willing to repeat them here as well if there is any interest.

Very interesting, i would be glad if you go into details.

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Just want to add my suggestions how to possible find a way out of the situations:

I am not against changing the code, not even massively like it would be the case with adding a superblock, but I am against the superblock as the only strategy to move out of this situation. People will see it as it is: an easy and probably desperate move to save Quark. I don´t see how that would help Quark even shortterm. I think we should go for a merge mining approach that integrates some structural changes and turn Quark back to a promising investment.

The basic idea was that people would mine Quark because it had enough value which isn´t currently the case and will probably stay like this for several years. That´s why I think we should look for a merge mining solution. However, I don´t see other usable cPoW coins who could be seriously used for that. Why not creating a composite coin that experiments with some of the new features that are currently out there. We could use it as a sort of test baloon and integrate the features that do well into Quark.

At the same time, I think (I mentioned that many times on the qrk.cc forum) we need to find a perspective for the foundation and rewrite the concept. I made proposals and I am willing to repeat them here as well if there is any interest.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
@cryptohunter isn't it a better idea for those investors you're talking about to simply create a development pot instead cheating and create a superblock out of nothing or companion coin ? The latters will bring very negative press while the former will prove that the investors care about Quark. I'm not an investor per se but I'm willing to donate monthly to any development fund publicly announced by the dev team.


Yes, i mean that would be way better. However that will not happen. People just don't donate. The logic is why donate to things that benefit the entire qrk community even those that don't donate anything. The superblock is simply a 10% donation from everyone if you want to look at it like that. That donation will be rewarded proportionally too so win win.

Sure i mean if every qrk investor would donate to a development pot that would be nice. ROI projects are really the only way to get investment that way though from my experience. Doge seems a special case, they seem to raise funds from super whales with ease.

QRK just lost another 10% today ..... that was the development pot right there? come on guys step up and do something before qrk is totally beyond help.

All the we are discussing possibly doing something that may help is not what the market wants to hear.



This is what has been happening to the coin from the mega pump in December.
Talks , plans , talks , discussions and nothing in reality. No development only abandoned plans.

There is no community , only  a bunch of bagholders in denial of reality.


Did you sell already or holding some qrk still?

Sold all.  Too bad i could have done it at 3x times the price.
legendary
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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
@cryptohunter isn't it a better idea for those investors you're talking about to simply create a development pot instead cheating and create a superblock out of nothing or companion coin ? The latters will bring very negative press while the former will prove that the investors care about Quark. I'm not an investor per se but I'm willing to donate monthly to any development fund publicly announced by the dev team.


Yes, i mean that would be way better. However that will not happen. People just don't donate. The logic is why donate to things that benefit the entire qrk community even those that don't donate anything. The superblock is simply a 10% donation from everyone if you want to look at it like that. That donation will be rewarded proportionally too so win win.

Sure i mean if every qrk investor would donate to a development pot that would be nice. ROI projects are really the only way to get investment that way though from my experience. Doge seems a special case, they seem to raise funds from super whales with ease.

QRK just lost another 10% today ..... that was the development pot right there? come on guys step up and do something before qrk is totally beyond help.

All the we are discussing possibly doing something that may help is not what the market wants to hear.



This is what has been happening to the coin from the mega pump in December.
Talks , plans , talks , discussions and nothing in reality. No development only abandoned plans.

There is no community , only  a bunch of bagholders in denial of reality.


Did you sell already or holding some qrk still?
sr. member
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Hey everyone, please check out this post and comment/pledge, we have a new Concept GUI in the works:
http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/29pigg/testing_testingnew_quark_wallet_gui_in_the_works/

Details:
"Hello Everyone!

I am pleased to announce that there is a concept GUI wallet  in the works by two of our core Quark community members:

Someguy1234...!! (C++ coder)
and Undercard!! (Graphics designer/ mobile wallet splashpage creator etc).


**GOAL: To make a sleek and attractive new wallet with unique features that will be  fun and  user friendly.**

This concept of this wallet project has been in the works for some time and has some new social and mining features that have been added to the Qt by someguy:D..(before the release of the new user interface itself).


We ask you to please test this wallet here and give feedback!!:
Download here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/omn0mwfcwt63xdr/quarkcoin-qt-social-2.3.exe

What additional features would you like to see? Suggestions?

***Also, if you believe in the power of the Quark community to get *important infrastructure projects* created- *please PLEDGE a donation* to this project to show your interest & support to keep it going!!***

Sample Images(without concept GUI "skins" attached):

IRC Quark U Chat image: https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/5319249dee145b045b96a60b/5322ada25d3cdc77703507bf/1024x600/d6b4db99d4bbc24bb717ba51d75881bd/chat.png

IRC Quark U Chat image 2: https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/5319249dee145b045b96a60b/5322ada25d3cdc77703507bf/1040x660/ddcb41dede0a88ff75dbc0d130672a63/Preview-1.JPG

Wallet Miner image: https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/5319249dee145b045b96a60b/5322ada25d3cdc77703507bf/1037x653/842586e26e5ab636602a0060eaecf56e/Preview-2.JPG"

So till now I have 2 issues, one is that the ctrl+tab is not working, and second when selecting send it sends my mouse pointer to send or if I click receive again it sends my pointer to export.
edit : also when I have a conversation with someone in the `social` tab I can't close it, could be useful to put a right-click and close option and also rightclick and whois on that user.
later edit: the copy ctrl+c also doesn't work and the hyperlinks inside the irc although they are highlighted and blue they don't open when I click on them...

- also when selecting a different conversation and then going back into the original channel/conversation it takes me to the top of the screen..

Can these be put in a to do list ?

as a future improvement can you add our hashrate into `mining` tab so that when we click start mining we can see whats the hashrate and other info like `a block was found x seconds ago`, and clickning on that takes us to qrk.blockr.io into that block details. what do you think ?
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