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legendary
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Blackjack.fun
If quark doen't make a serious move in a few weeks not years it will be forgotten.

Years? In this crypto world a year means a geological era.

And your claim that it is the fastest coin is no longer accurate. And it never was .
There are coins with 15 seconds confirmations already on the market and enough with 30 seconds block.
Besides , this can be achieved with a hard fork also by bitcoin so it's a temporary advantage.

It the coins wants to succeed it needs something more than waiting for the miracle.
sr. member
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An example of promotion is making a legit video on how to buy items with Quark and put on Youtube. Or get the well known guy, youtube gaming channels, magazines to talk about it. Or like couple suggested before make a replica of the quark power gauntlet and send a cosplay to gaming conventions, so promotion can also play a rol in this.

good ideas, keep them coming, maybe some enthusiast quarkers will pick them up and build on them
sr. member
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Quark is not collapsing because people don't want to sell it , but those people will also not use it as paying for something because they want their coin to go up so there will be no usage.
Reminds me of a twisted version of prisoner dilemma


I had no idea Quark is collapsing :-) you remind me of some bitcoin-haters that said couple of months ago that it will collapse and will reach $10. No point hating a coin for the simple reason its different from Bitcoin.

Regarding your point about consumption I would rather attribute that to deflationary currencies than inflationary ones like Quark because if I hold 1 btc now I'm more incentivised to keep it till it'll reach a certain price in 6-12 months, while if I hold 1 qrk I know the value won't go up in price alot more because the protocol will create more quarks each year so I rather hold more faith in an inflationary currency for day-2 day transactions than a deflationary one, right ? I mean, all bitcoiners - myself included, are waiting for the moon so we can dump it and buy a island, but with Quark I don't have those aspirations and I only hope it'll be accepted at more merchants so I can use it for my internet purchases.

My words:
Quote
Quark is not collapsing

You start your phrase with:
Quote
I had no idea Quark is collapsing

Secondary , right now bitcoin is printing far more coins than quark , quark is at 1% inflation while bitcoin is at 10%.
So , all your mumbo jumbo from the first paragraph is flawed.

Third , let's compare how many merchants accepted quark this year and how many bitcoin this week.

Comparing quark to bitcoin is a lost battle.


Your words
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Quark is not collapsing because .... , but
I've put more emphasis on your `but`so maybe I've misunderstood what you were saying between the lines.

Secondly, Bitcoin is a deflationary currency which makes my mumbo jumbo extremely accurate because a finite supply will always go either boom or doom. An inflationary currency like Quark has the potential to be used as a day to day medium of exchange but also a store of value for short-medium term, thus making Quark war with Bitcoin almost impossible but not lost.

Thirdly, merchants are more likely to accept a currency which has a relatively solid liquidity like Bitcoin than to accept Quark which trades so low that it wouldn't meet a local shop requirements lol, however lets see in few more years when the generations of bitcoins drops to a halt, lets see then how much liquidity Bitcoin will have then, people like me will rather hold long their bitcoin position than making day to day purchases. I hold more hope in Quark for the daily purchases having the fastest confirmation time for transactions and also inflationary status. The current battles are all won by Bitcoin and I'm glad it happens so because mainstream adoption will make people understand crypto currencies, only then the real war between cryto coins will begin.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
erm. huntercoin has a game built directly into it and its blockchain. Quark cant beat that sorry

lol what kind of game? Quarks half million dollar game will be distributed to non tech and casual gamers who use pc and console outside the Crypto community which is great for spreading the word for the sake of Crypto.

Another wishful thinking.
Quark will be used a "one" of the payment options in the game.
Less than 10% of the gamers that play diablo have a paypal account. Only a few decided to open one (and we're taking about diablo 3) because of the game.
How many will start learning about quark based on this average game? 20, 100?


How many people also depends how well it gets promoted and the ShaqFu team seems very open in promoting Quark to its gamers. Also what matters is that Crypto for the first time managed to find it's way through the top gaming scene where new items, updates can be paid with Crypto with much lower fees than paypal/debitcards/creditcards. This also brings gaming and Crypto closer to eachother. It's a nice experiment and we all should get behind it.

An example of promotion is making a legit video on how to buy items with Quark and put on Youtube. Or get the well known guy, youtube gaming channels, magazines to talk about it. Or like couple suggested before make a replica of the quark power gauntlet and send a cosplay to gaming conventions, so promotion can also play a rol in this.

Now I see an avalanche of ideas released.
Why haven't this been done in the last 6 months of freefall since December?

Are we waiting for shaq fu like another Jesus?
What if this fails?
hero member
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erm. huntercoin has a game built directly into it and its blockchain. Quark cant beat that sorry

lol what kind of game? Quarks half million dollar game will be distributed to non tech and casual gamers who use pc and console outside the Crypto community which is great for spreading the word for the sake of Crypto.

Another wishful thinking.
Quark will be used a "one" of the payment options in the game.
Less than 10% of the gamers that play diablo have a paypal account. Only a few decided to open one (and we're taking about diablo 3) because of the game.
How many will start learning about quark based on this average game? 20, 100?


How many people also depends how well it gets promoted and the ShaqFu team seems very open in promoting Quark to its gamers. Also what matters is that Crypto for the first time managed to find it's way through the top gaming scene where new items, updates can be paid with Crypto with much lower fees than paypal/debitcards/creditcards. This also brings gaming and Crypto closer to eachother. It's a nice experiment and we all should get behind it.

An example of promotion is making a legit video on how to buy items with Quark and put on Youtube. Or get the well known guy, youtube gaming channels, magazines to talk about it. Or like couple suggested before make a replica of the quark power gauntlet and send a cosplay to gaming conventions, so promotion can also play a rol in this.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
erm. huntercoin has a game built directly into it and its blockchain. Quark cant beat that sorry

lol what kind of game? Quarks half million dollar game will be distributed to non tech and casual gamers who use pc and console outside the Crypto community which is great for spreading the word for the sake of Crypto.

Another wishful thinking.
Quark will be used a "one" of the payment options in the game.
Less than 10% of the gamers that play diablo have a paypal account. Only a few decided to open one (and we're taking about diablo 3) because of the game.
How many will start learning about quark based on this average game? 20, 100?
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 6403
Blackjack.fun

Quark is not collapsing because people don't want to sell it , but those people will also not use it as paying for something because they want their coin to go up so there will be no usage.
Reminds me of a twisted version of prisoner dilemma


I had no idea Quark is collapsing :-) you remind me of some bitcoin-haters that said couple of months ago that it will collapse and will reach $10. No point hating a coin for the simple reason its different from Bitcoin.

Regarding your point about consumption I would rather attribute that to deflationary currencies than inflationary ones like Quark because if I hold 1 btc now I'm more incentivised to keep it till it'll reach a certain price in 6-12 months, while if I hold 1 qrk I know the value won't go up in price alot more because the protocol will create more quarks each year so I rather hold more faith in an inflationary currency for day-2 day transactions than a deflationary one, right ? I mean, all bitcoiners - myself included, are waiting for the moon so we can dump it and buy a island, but with Quark I don't have those aspirations and I only hope it'll be accepted at more merchants so I can use it for my internet purchases.

My words:
Quote
Quark is not collapsing

You start your phrase with:
Quote
I had no idea Quark is collapsing

Secondary , right now bitcoin is printing far more coins than quark , quark is at 1% inflation while bitcoin is at 10%.
So , all your mumbo jumbo from the first paragraph is flawed.

Third , let's compare how many merchants accepted quark this year and how many bitcoin this week.

Comparing quark to bitcoin is a lost battle.



hero member
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erm. huntercoin has a game built directly into it and its blockchain. Quark cant beat that sorry

lol what kind of game? Quarks half million dollar game will be distributed to non tech and casual gamers who use pc and console outside the Crypto community which is great for spreading the word for the sake of Crypto.
hero member
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erm. huntercoin has a game built directly into it and its blockchain. Quark cant beat that sorry
full member
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Thanks for the comments - indeed we will not do anything radical or fundamentally stupid like PoS - i hope you like our solutions when they come. : )
can you add a 4-6 digit password on the qrk mobile wallet for essential operations ?

I asked Hash Engineering about this, he states that he is hopeful that Andreas Schildbach will add it to the Bitcoin Wallet- Hopefully soon-
Because Quarks Wallet is based on the Schildbach wallets coding/features, we will have to wait a bit on this one.
Currently there is no Android wallet app with this feature.
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QUARK MOBILE WALLET IS NOW OUT OF BETA -RELEASED ON GOOGLE PLAY!!:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hashengineering.quarkcoin.wallet

Thank you so much to HASH ENGINEERING who has worked tirelessly on this app-

When other Android wallet devs said that the hashing functions were "beyond their skill level" to create this wallet, Hash Engineering pulled it off- with a beautiful Splash Screen to boot.

Special Props on the Splash Screen and in app color layout go to QuarkFX, Undercard, and MJB Monetary Metals!!
This has been MONTHS in the making, and it is the best looking Android App around!!

Please everyone, if you appreciate all the hard work done on this app, make a donation to Hash from within the app itself, or use the tipping app to Hash Engineering on Facebook :

Tipping App: https://apps.facebook.com/wpmultitipping/

Hash Engineering on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006287205245&fref=ts

Grin
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Quark is not collapsing because people don't want to sell it , but those people will also not use it as paying for something because they want their coin to go up so there will be no usage.
Reminds me of a twisted version of prisoner dilemma


I had no idea Quark is collapsing :-) you remind me of some bitcoin-haters that said couple of months ago that it will collapse and will reach $10. No point hating a coin for the simple reason its different from Bitcoin.

Regarding your point about consumption I would rather attribute that to deflationary currencies than inflationary ones like Quark because if I hold 1 btc now I'm more incentivised to keep it till it'll reach a certain price in 6-12 months, while if I hold 1 qrk I know the value won't go up in price alot more because the protocol will create more quarks each year so I rather hold more faith in an inflationary currency for day-2 day transactions than a deflationary one, right ? I mean, all bitcoiners - myself included, are waiting for the moon so we can dump it and buy a island, but with Quark I don't have those aspirations and I only hope it'll be accepted at more merchants so I can use it for my internet purchases.

Excellent point!- And I rather like your game idea a lot. I would not say this is out of the realm of possibility at all. Don't listen to the nay sayers- there are people working actively on the gaming/mining idea trying to make it a reality.
hero member
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‘Try to be nice’

Quark is not collapsing because people don't want to sell it , but those people will also not use it as paying for something because they want their coin to go up so there will be no usage.
Reminds me of a twisted version of prisoner dilemma


I had no idea Quark is collapsing :-) you remind me of some bitcoin-haters that said couple of months ago that it will collapse and will reach $10. No point hating a coin for the simple reason its different from Bitcoin.

Regarding your point about consumption I would rather attribute that to deflationary currencies than inflationary ones like Quark because if I hold 1 btc now I'm more incentivised to keep it till it'll reach a certain price in 6-12 months, while if I hold 1 qrk I know the value won't go up in price alot more because the protocol will create more quarks each year so I rather hold more faith in an inflationary currency for day-2 day transactions than a deflationary one, right ? I mean, all bitcoiners - myself included, are waiting for the moon so we can dump it and buy a island, but with Quark I don't have those aspirations and I only hope it'll be accepted at more merchants so I can use it for my internet purchases.

+1 and the PoS currencies have even less incentive - so the "hording" meme is oh, so , non relevant to Quark.

i like where the system is right now, we have good development and are growing our community, we are doing this by having predictable systems and i'm really amazed with the fiat stability, to tell you the truth even normal economic models wouldn't have it this stable this early in distribution. 
sr. member
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Quark is not collapsing because people don't want to sell it , but those people will also not use it as paying for something because they want their coin to go up so there will be no usage.
Reminds me of a twisted version of prisoner dilemma


I had no idea Quark is collapsing :-) you remind me of some bitcoin-haters that said couple of months ago that it will collapse and will reach $10. No point hating a coin for the simple reason its different from Bitcoin.

Regarding your point about consumption I would rather attribute that to deflationary currencies than inflationary ones like Quark because if I hold 1 btc now I'm more incentivised to keep it till it'll reach a certain price in 6-12 months, while if I hold 1 qrk I know the value won't go up in price alot more because the protocol will create more quarks each year so I rather hold more faith in an inflationary currency for day-2 day transactions than a deflationary one, right ? I mean, all bitcoiners - myself included, are waiting for the moon so we can dump it and buy a island, but with Quark I don't have those aspirations and I only hope it'll be accepted at more merchants so I can use it for my internet purchases.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
a method for increasing Quark's hash rate, increasing funding for projects and inspire the community all at...

Could Quark be included in background on a game like Starcraft, etc so that the gamer gets a reward like more minerals/extra warriors/carriers/etc in-game when he finds a block and also getting the real-life rewards of the quarks. It could be an opt-in promotion where gamers lend their pc power with the chance of getting an advantage during the game and beating their friends with this advantage :-)

Send the guys at Blizzard an email with your idea. I'm sure they will be amazed about it. Not so sure if they will gonna do it in the next millennium ..

Keep the ideas close to the realms of reality and possibility for now
Only used Starcraft as example because thats one of the few games that I know( also RAlert, AOEmpires and NFS games from 10 years ago when playing them) but this could work with the smallest game right ?

If it happens with the smallest game out there there will be no impact.
Blizzard is not keen on entering this , they have already a deal with paypal for their games.

Also , why do you thin a company will chose quark and not bitcoin ?
There is no reason for ltc for doge for dark for black and not for quark to be chosen.

Seems like it's all about empty words here
I've seen lots of discussions here (including superblock) but in the end nothing happened.
Waiting for a miracle?


Because quark is the first crypto to be in a half million dollar game and used for pc as well as console. First mover advantage so it deserves it, 30 sec transaction and it has the image for gaming imo. If you look at Voidspace made by doge community you will see that they also accept Quark as in-game payments so quark definitely made buzz in gaming amongst Crypyo community. Also there is another smaller game being made in the background and after ShaqFu it will have a pretty good resume regarding gaming. Bitcoin could also be used it's a more well known Crypto, but it's cool to see Bitcoins descendants spreading the word on Crypto by such projects.

The game isn't release yet. So any coin can still beat it to nr 1.
And about things going in the "shadow" or "background' , we can easily look at the discussions two pages back and how many of those evaporated without trace.

Quark is not collapsing because people don't want to sell it , but those people will also not use it as paying for something because they want their coin to go up so there will be no usage.
Reminds me of a twisted version of prisoner dilemma





sr. member
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With no profitability there will be no mining.
Why would somebody develop a game that would reward all the gamers 5$ per day?
The company of that game won't reward the gamers(unless they're testers lol) but the gamers like wasting time playing games so if the game is attractive they will play it for couple of hours a day right ? so if a quarker develops an attractive game which can mine quarks with the gamer consent, the game could secure the network and at the same time they will get rewarded in-game and outside the game whenever their pc will find a block. If they play a strategy game in teams which lasts for couple of hours they could use a pool for mining and if they find a block the whole team will get an advantage in-game with new cars/weapons/etc.

Its a similar idea with that of a possible coin which rewards those who mark spammers/trolls on a forum/facebook. The blockchain allows many possible applications and with Quark protocol which has a fast time per block of 30-40 seconds could be used in games or similar applications for mining, which like you said, provides no profitability at the moment.
hero member
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a method for increasing Quark's hash rate, increasing funding for projects and inspire the community all at...

Could Quark be included in background on a game like Starcraft, etc so that the gamer gets a reward like more minerals/extra warriors/carriers/etc in-game when he finds a block and also getting the real-life rewards of the quarks. It could be an opt-in promotion where gamers lend their pc power with the chance of getting an advantage during the game and beating their friends with this advantage :-)

Send the guys at Blizzard an email with your idea. I'm sure they will be amazed about it. Not so sure if they will gonna do it in the next millennium ..

Keep the ideas close to the realms of reality and possibility for now
Only used Starcraft as example because thats one of the few games that I know( also RAlert, AOEmpires and NFS games from 10 years ago when playing them) but this could work with the smallest game right ?

If it happens with the smallest game out there there will be no impact.
Blizzard is not keen on entering this , they have already a deal with paypal for their games.

Also , why do you thin a company will chose quark and not bitcoin ?
There is no reason for ltc for doge for dark for black and not for quark to be chosen.

Seems like it's all about empty words here
I've seen lots of discussions here (including superblock) but in the end nothing happened.
Waiting for a miracle?


Because quark is the first crypto to be in a half million dollar game and used for pc as well as console. First mover advantage so it deserves it, 30 sec transaction and it has the image for gaming imo. If you look at Voidspace made by doge community you will see that they also accept Quark as in-game payments so quark definitely made buzz in gaming amongst Crypyo community. Also there is another smaller game being made in the background and after ShaqFu it will have a pretty good resume regarding gaming. Bitcoin could also be used it's a more well known Crypto, but it's cool to see Bitcoins descendants spreading the word on Crypto by such projects.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 6403
Blackjack.fun
a method for increasing Quark's hash rate, increasing funding for projects and inspire the community all at...

Could Quark be included in background on a game like Starcraft, etc so that the gamer gets a reward like more minerals/extra warriors/carriers/etc in-game when he finds a block and also getting the real-life rewards of the quarks. It could be an opt-in promotion where gamers lend their pc power with the chance of getting an advantage during the game and beating their friends with this advantage :-)

Are you talking about mining or gaming here.
Mining for quark is not profitable even if you use a stolen laptop and stolen electricity Smiley.

So you plan is to create a game with quark or to use gamers as a multipool?
The answer is in my initial post Wink

With no profitability there will be no mining.
Why would somebody develop a game that would reward all the gamers 5$ per day?

sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
a method for increasing Quark's hash rate, increasing funding for projects and inspire the community all at...

Could Quark be included in background on a game like Starcraft, etc so that the gamer gets a reward like more minerals/extra warriors/carriers/etc in-game when he finds a block and also getting the real-life rewards of the quarks. It could be an opt-in promotion where gamers lend their pc power with the chance of getting an advantage during the game and beating their friends with this advantage :-)

Are you talking about mining or gaming here.
Mining for quark is not profitable even if you use a stolen laptop and stolen electricity Smiley.

So you plan is to create a game with quark or to use gamers as a multipool?
The answer is in my initial post Wink
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 6403
Blackjack.fun
a method for increasing Quark's hash rate, increasing funding for projects and inspire the community all at...

Could Quark be included in background on a game like Starcraft, etc so that the gamer gets a reward like more minerals/extra warriors/carriers/etc in-game when he finds a block and also getting the real-life rewards of the quarks. It could be an opt-in promotion where gamers lend their pc power with the chance of getting an advantage during the game and beating their friends with this advantage :-)

Send the guys at Blizzard an email with your idea. I'm sure they will be amazed about it. Not so sure if they will gonna do it in the next millennium ..

Keep the ideas close to the realms of reality and possibility for now
Only used Starcraft as example because thats one of the few games that I know( also RAlert, AOEmpires and NFS games from 10 years ago when playing them) but this could work with the smallest game right ?

If it happens with the smallest game out there there will be no impact.
Blizzard is not keen on entering this , they have already a deal with paypal for their games.

Also , why do you thin a company will chose quark and not bitcoin ?
There is no reason for ltc for doge for dark for black and not for quark to be chosen.


From a company point of view it would work way better using bitcoin as it has much more liquidity, but from gamer point of view the fact that quark is the fastest protocol releasing blocks ~30 seconds it would be more profitable if they play 1-2 hours per day, the chance of getting an advantage/finding a block is alot higher, more so if they play in teams and each team is on a pool they could get the advantage for the whole team.

Are you talking about mining or gaming here.
Mining for quark is not profitable even if you use a stolen laptop and stolen electricity Smiley.

So you plan is to create a game with quark or to use gamers as a multipool?
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