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January 08, 2014, 10:24:30 AM

If the dollar and other world monies continue to have problems and Cryptos continue to grow, we are going to reach a crossroads and we all know what governments will say and what they will try to do. But, it depends on when that happens. We are already growing and "infiltrating" the fiat world. We may be attacked at some point in the near future, but it seems to me that government controlled fiat currencies are having problems all over the world and they are not going to blame Cryptos as the problem (perhaps as a straw that breaks the camels back, but camel is old and dying), Cryptos will rather be one of few alternatives (e.g. silver). If they don't take this train down soon (and perhaps even if they do), the inevitable result of this technology will be felt far and wide. I'll let you imagine what that is, so don't worry too much about the price...


I like your points -

Just to add to below - I stated that because so much i see an anti "government" stance on these and other forums by "crypto anarchists" when Government is clearly not the problem, Government is not perfect and certainly corrupt , but certainly not the problem -

Don't ever listen to a Government and believe what they officially say , < That is a good piece of general advice a government could be at one time saying one thing and then preparing to do the complete opposite.

Because a "government" is just the Sum of its parts.

however the process will not be a fast one.



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http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/1376/crypto-front-line-human-freedom




P15 - Disruptions Ahead – The monetary system needs reform and replacement but the way this is done will have wider effects on Government finances and personal savings, so a lack of good response by Government to prepare society and economy for the changes would be a problem.


Not a “Problem” as is the case with any “evolution” -

The situation is quite simple (if you turn your TV off) .

Corporations run most nations, the biggest Corporation is the one that issued the currency.

These Corps control the “Government” that is supposed to give “fiat” value to that currency.

They use their private agencies “NSA CIA SS IRS” like the “Gestapo” against the Government as a vector of control -

They use the ownership of the “TV” corporations (a single directional form of information control) as a vector of control on Government.

but neither “Government” or these Corporations can control a FULLY DISTRIBUTED crypto currency. and there are many of them now out there - and they are supranational -

but however -

Out of the two entities that exist. (Government and Corporations), Cryptocurrency gives power back to Government; and actually “balances” the vastly out of balance equation between these two entity’s relationship.

so what will happen is clear and obvious.

Cryptocurrency influence will slowly gain on “Government” and at the same time fiat will slowly lose influence on “Government”;  as the primary vector for control of Government by corps is; fiat issuance; media control and “agencies”.

As fiat power loses value;

Controlled Media will become unfunded. and start to look more like “Communist propaganda”

Agencies will continue to exist but change as “decent people” take positions closer to the “Government mandate”

Nations that are not fully controlled by Corporate entities - if it is alleged that they exist they have a distinct advantage as they can pro-actively take the lead, for other nations the process will likely be very much slower .

the reason the “smarter” more independent governments will benefit is because just like with the “Internet” as they adopt Crypto currency more “human energy” and business will flow to that nation and give its “GDP” more intrinsic value - .

the other reason it may be attractive to “Strong Governments” is the “we can’t control it but neither can you” aspect -

so even Government(s) that are viewed as “authoritarian” may view crypto currency as an option because although they are not in control they may be faced with an option of someone else being in control, and play a card of “no control” - , although this is just a temporary thing as Crytpo currency is not localised and supranational, so it would not matter in the long term, its as good as a nation trying to “stop the Internet” - but without any of the negative affects .

so any nation that is actively today trying to “stop the Internet” is likely to have a “basket case” fiat currency and thus would face the contradiction that there is a supranational Cryptocurrency (that no one controls) operating in their nation; but its vastly more stable and beneficial than their own “basket case” national fiat -, so in this scenario once education occurs, and general benefit is witnessed, there would be the likely outcome that the "government" of that nation would  “turn a blind eye” - to this Crypto or indeed in fact work with it; and thus the integration effect occurs organically - .
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‘Try to be nice’
January 08, 2014, 10:12:03 AM


I'm happy to announce that Bittylicious:

We be happy to support Quark.

Bittylicious  is a "direct exchange" similar to  "localbitcoins"

but If you would like to become a seller Marc has expressed potential sellers to Register here  https://bittylicious.com/application/

He expressed an interest for anyone around the globe to do this, but one requirement is that your Bank has "Online banking fully set up." and the  "Ability to pay using Faster Payments. Most personal banks can do this."

he said unfortunately some US banks are a behind the times in this regard - but Register at the site to become a seller if you want to try it out also.

spin him an email for details:

[email protected]

This effectively means that as we can build a selling network we can provide direct access to some or more of our investors.
legendary
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January 08, 2014, 05:24:39 AM
Guys message BTC-e and show them the voting result.

Also someone has been buying $2.000.000 worth of Quark off market!. Could this be an exchange? Speculation thread here.

http://www.reddit.com/r/QuarkCoin/comments/1upa4x/someone_or_some_exchange_bought_around_2000000/
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January 07, 2014, 10:16:48 PM
People are concerned. Since mining is dieing, they think the Quark network will be susceptible.

@digitalindustry

The blog should broadcast nothing such will happen. Emphasize on 0.5% inflation.

I'll write an article about how quarks are better than Bitcoins, and as of the current time better than any other alt.

Quark current marketcap is 16,379,903 , a 0.5% inflation means  81899$/year.
Bitcoin transactions fees , 10-20k usd /day.

Be careful how you write your article so it doesn't come back like a boomerang.

Also remind people that as QUARK grows as a transactional currency it willgenerate a lot of value via transaction fees meaning mining block rewards is not the be all end all.  The more popular the larger the amount of transaction fees. 

Transaction fees alone are how Mastercard/Visa etc currently make a majority of their profit.  No reason a crypto coin can't also  (transactions fees are even the entire basis of other coins like NXT.  I think the fact QUARK has both a smart level of inflationary mining and that it is primarily mined and ready for use (and trans fees) give it a double whammy.

Once all the FUD and lies get cleared the facts remain that QUARK is a dynamo currency from fast transactions to easy decentralization maintenance to inflation design etc etc.  If I had more BTC I'd be buying like a madman right now.

Transaction fee is not a good idea (although it's always an option in quark to be on the safe side) --

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No or less transaction fees -- i.e. you may try to reduce the transaction fee by other means like PoS or inflation. Higher transaction fee may make people avoid Bitcoin transactions and instead use their Visa/Mastercard cards. Small transactions will be of no use cause the transaction fee will be too high. Transaction fee adds more complexities to the picture like adoption of the coin in poor countries and rejection of transaction based on low/no transaction fee.

No one wants to pay taxes or Bitcoin transaction fees.

Good amount of transaction fee may ensure quick confirmation (cause miners may reject based on low transaction fee); the delay will vary in multiples of the block times.

 What happens when you're using cryptocurrencies in low economy places like somewhere in Africa, South Asia & America or many of the islands. The transaction fee will simply be too much for them to pay; they'll avoid using it. There's no guarantee that people will pay transaction fee in the first place putting the miners at risk. Right now you see good transaction fee cause most of Bitcoin economy is in developed nations where they can afford to pay the fee in the first place.
 Then there's competition involved -- If the developed nations realize that their developing/under developed counterparts are not paying transaction fee, they too may stop paying. It's human behavior, it's uncertain.(10)

From http://delogics.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-ultimatebest-cyrptocurrency.html

0.5% inflation must be good. But I really think 2% will be better. Inflation should be at par to real world currencies.
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January 07, 2014, 09:11:41 PM
People are concerned. Since mining is dieing, they think the Quark network will be susceptible.

@digitalindustry

The blog should broadcast nothing such will happen. Emphasize on 0.5% inflation.

I'll write an article about how quarks are better than Bitcoins, and as of the current time better than any other alt.

Quark current marketcap is 16,379,903 , a 0.5% inflation means  81899$/year.
Bitcoin transactions fees , 10-20k usd /day.

Be careful how you write your article so it doesn't come back like a boomerang.

Also remind people that as QUARK grows as a transactional currency it willgenerate a lot of value via transaction fees meaning mining block rewards is not the be all end all.  The more popular the larger the amount of transaction fees. 

Transaction fees alone are how Mastercard/Visa etc currently make a majority of their profit.  No reason a crypto coin can't also  (transactions fees are even the entire basis of other coins like NXT.  I think the fact QUARK has both a smart level of inflationary mining and that it is primarily mined and ready for use (and trans fees) give it a double whammy.

Once all the FUD and lies get cleared the facts remain that QUARK is a dynamo currency from fast transactions to easy decentralization maintenance to inflation design etc etc.  If I had more BTC I'd be buying like a madman right now.
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January 07, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
i just bought qrk, i think it can make it 3x.
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January 07, 2014, 07:05:55 PM
POLL: Which coin should BTC-E add next?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361576.120

1st: QUARK
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January 07, 2014, 06:30:23 PM
Please read the result of poll: Quarkcoin is the only one and the best

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-which-alt-coin-will-see-the-most-growth-in-2014-359521
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January 07, 2014, 05:39:12 PM
If the dollar and other world monies continue to have problems and Cryptos continue to grow, we are going to reach a crossroads and we all know what governments will say and what they will try to do. But, it depends on when that happens. We are already growing and "infiltrating" the fiat world. We may be attacked at some point in the near future, but it seems to me that government controlled fiat currencies are having problems all over the world and they are not going to blame Cryptos as the problem (perhaps as a straw that breaks the camels back, but camel is old and dying), Cryptos will rather be one of few alternatives (e.g. silver). If they don't take this train down soon (and perhaps even if they do), the inevitable result of this technology will be felt far and wide. I'll let you imagine what that is, so don't worry too much about the price...

Excellent and very pertinent point. I've often described it as a "pressure gradient" from fiat into cryptoes. I do quite a lot of commenting in online articles and sometimes describe cryptocurrencies as "unlevered, base money". Whereas credit money is highly levered, in other words there is only 1 chair for every 10 people in the credit money economy whereas that ratio is 1 to1 in cryptos. When the music stops (as in, when the US or Japan finally default on their levered-to-kingdom-come debt) it's clear where the "other 9" in the fiat world are going to run.

Your point about crypto currencies being more about a technological revolution than price is also dead on. I actually crossed swords with a capital funds manager today on that. Here's the exchange (I was posting as 'indigopete').

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/10554405/Bitcoin-value-moves-back-above-1000-after-Zynga-move.html#comment-1189647862


Well said.
Thanks for the article, I am looking forward to going through it.

Very nice discourse. LOL at your counterpart.
Wow, I thought that man, Anthony J. Alfidi, in the article was a sock puppet or the like. I can't believe his responses to you. And he manages millions for others?
Here is the website of the Capital Group they run. Sounds like they could use a bit of education, not to mention clarity.
The would appreciate some discourse I am sure.  Wink
http://alfidicapitalblog.blogspot.de/2014/01/the-intersection-of-hyip-and-bitcoin.html
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in defi we trust
January 07, 2014, 05:28:16 PM
Quark will reach 1$-2$ friday 13th.
And will reach 10$-50$ after the Max Keiser report (probably 20th december).

Buy now while it's cheap!!!!!! This maybe is your last chance ever to get so much money!
Your life will be so much different with al this money in your bank account.


It's like going to the casino and playing roulette and putting 5000$ on a random number, only now your chance of winning is 80%!

It's like playing the lottery, not with 0.0000000028% chance of winning, but 80% chance of winning the jackpot!

It's your choice!

Times have changed a bit , a bit more I guess.

what do you think, will quark ever reach 1-10 dollar?

When bitcoin reaches 1 mil. That would be my bet
But then again , I've seen some weird things happening so anything is possible.

Also , IAS , I don't see you so much on the Wall Observer thread , what happened?

I just stopped trading. It was wearing on me, too much work for what amounted to a small BTC loss (but a great fiat gain). When buy and hold gets better results, you stop "learning". I'm trying to spend that TA time looking more into BTC directly as well. Much more enjoyable. It just takes a lot of time to trade successfully AND I would have done better to buy and just hold, so that I now "due".  Grin
I still enjoy checking in from time to time though.

Glad to hear that at least one of the people out there is cured from trying to understand BTC patterns and put them into trades Smiley.
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Antifragile
January 07, 2014, 05:26:55 PM
If the dollar and other world monies continue to have problems and Cryptos continue to grow, we are going to reach a crossroads and we all know what governments will say and what they will try to do. But, it depends on when that happens. We are already growing and "infiltrating" the fiat world. We may be attacked at some point in the near future, but it seems to me that government controlled fiat currencies are having problems all over the world and they are not going to blame Cryptos as the problem (perhaps as a straw that breaks the camels back, but camel is old and dying), Cryptos will rather be one of few alternatives (e.g. silver). If they don't take this train down soon (and perhaps even if they do), the inevitable result of this technology will be felt far and wide. I'll let you imagine what that is, so don't worry too much about the price...

Excellent and very pertinent point. I've often described it as a "pressure gradient" from fiat into cryptoes. I do quite a lot of commenting in online articles and sometimes describe cryptocurrencies as "unlevered, base money". Whereas credit money is highly levered, in other words there is only 1 chair for every 10 people in the credit money economy whereas that ratio is 1 to1 in cryptos. When the music stops (as in, when the US or Japan finally default on their levered-to-kingdom-come debt) it's clear where the "other 9" in the fiat world are going to run.

Your point about crypto currencies being more about a technological revolution than price is also dead on. I actually crossed swords with a capital funds manager today on that. Here's the exchange (I was posting as 'indigopete').

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/10554405/Bitcoin-value-moves-back-above-1000-after-Zynga-move.html#comment-1189647862


Well said.
Thanks for the article, I am looking forward to going through it.
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Antifragile
January 07, 2014, 05:25:11 PM
Quark will reach 1$-2$ friday 13th.
And will reach 10$-50$ after the Max Keiser report (probably 20th december).

Buy now while it's cheap!!!!!! This maybe is your last chance ever to get so much money!
Your life will be so much different with al this money in your bank account.


It's like going to the casino and playing roulette and putting 5000$ on a random number, only now your chance of winning is 80%!

It's like playing the lottery, not with 0.0000000028% chance of winning, but 80% chance of winning the jackpot!

It's your choice!

Times have changed a bit , a bit more I guess.

what do you think, will quark ever reach 1-10 dollar?

When bitcoin reaches 1 mil. That would be my bet
But then again , I've seen some weird things happening so anything is possible.

Also , IAS , I don't see you so much on the Wall Observer thread , what happened?

I just stopped trading. It was wearing on me, too much work for what amounted to a small BTC loss (but a great fiat gain). When buy and hold gets better results, you stop "learning". I'm trying to spend that TA time looking more into BTC directly as well. Much more enjoyable. It just takes a lot of time to trade successfully AND I would have done better to buy and just hold, so that I now "due".  Grin
I still enjoy checking in from time to time though.
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in defi we trust
January 07, 2014, 05:18:49 PM
This was a good day to invest another 2 grand into QRK... Smiley

Indeed , I bet you did that =))))))
you being sarcastic m8?

No
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January 07, 2014, 05:17:19 PM
This was a good day to invest another 2 grand into QRK... Smiley

Indeed , I bet you did that =))))))
you being sarcastic m8?
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in defi we trust
January 07, 2014, 05:06:25 PM
This was a good day to invest another 2 grand into QRK... Smiley

Indeed , I bet you did that =))))))
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January 07, 2014, 04:58:48 PM
This was a good day to invest another 2 grand into QRK... Smiley
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in defi we trust
January 07, 2014, 04:41:45 PM
Quark will reach 1$-2$ friday 13th.
And will reach 10$-50$ after the Max Keiser report (probably 20th december).

Buy now while it's cheap!!!!!! This maybe is your last chance ever to get so much money!
Your life will be so much different with al this money in your bank account.


It's like going to the casino and playing roulette and putting 5000$ on a random number, only now your chance of winning is 80%!

It's like playing the lottery, not with 0.0000000028% chance of winning, but 80% chance of winning the jackpot!

It's your choice!

Times have changed a bit , a bit more I guess.

what do you think, will quark ever reach 1-10 dollar?

When bitcoin reaches 1 mil. That would be my bet
But then again , I've seen some weird things happening so anything is possible.

Also , IAS , I don't see you so much on the Wall Observer thread , what happened?
legendary
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January 07, 2014, 04:37:20 PM
Quark will reach 1$-2$ friday 13th.
And will reach 10$-50$ after the Max Keiser report (probably 20th december).

Buy now while it's cheap!!!!!! This maybe is your last chance ever to get so much money!
Your life will be so much different with al this money in your bank account.


It's like going to the casino and playing roulette and putting 5000$ on a random number, only now your chance of winning is 80%!

It's like playing the lottery, not with 0.0000000028% chance of winning, but 80% chance of winning the jackpot!

It's your choice!

Times have changed a bit , a bit more I guess.

what do you think, will quark ever reach 1-10 dollar?
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 501
in defi we trust
January 07, 2014, 04:30:22 PM
Quark will reach 1$-2$ friday 13th.
And will reach 10$-50$ after the Max Keiser report (probably 20th december).

Buy now while it's cheap!!!!!! This maybe is your last chance ever to get so much money!
Your life will be so much different with al this money in your bank account.


It's like going to the casino and playing roulette and putting 5000$ on a random number, only now your chance of winning is 80%!

It's like playing the lottery, not with 0.0000000028% chance of winning, but 80% chance of winning the jackpot!

It's your choice!

Times have changed a bit , a bit more I guess.
legendary
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January 07, 2014, 04:09:15 PM
If the dollar and other world monies continue to have problems and Cryptos continue to grow, we are going to reach a crossroads and we all know what governments will say and what they will try to do. But, it depends on when that happens. We are already growing and "infiltrating" the fiat world. We may be attacked at some point in the near future, but it seems to me that government controlled fiat currencies are having problems all over the world and they are not going to blame Cryptos as the problem (perhaps as a straw that breaks the camels back, but camel is old and dying), Cryptos will rather be one of few alternatives (e.g. silver). If they don't take this train down soon (and perhaps even if they do), the inevitable result of this technology will be felt far and wide. I'll let you imagine what that is, so don't worry too much about the price...

Excellent and very pertinent point. I've often described it as a "pressure gradient" from fiat into cryptoes. I do quite a lot of commenting in online articles and sometimes describe cryptocurrencies as "unlevered, base money". Whereas credit money is highly levered, in other words there is only 1 chair for every 10 people in the credit money economy whereas that ratio is 1 to1 in cryptos. When the music stops (as in, when the US or Japan finally default on their levered-to-kingdom-come debt) it's clear where the "other 9" in the fiat world are going to run.

Your point about crypto currencies being more about a technological revolution than price is also dead on. I actually crossed swords with a capital funds manager today on that. Here's the exchange (I was posting as 'indigopete').

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/10554405/Bitcoin-value-moves-back-above-1000-after-Zynga-move.html#comment-1189647862
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