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legendary
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April 14, 2017, 03:07:10 AM
Quark as it stands now is well known . . .

Can we clearly express in 20 words or less just what that is?

We need a starting point, and if we don't know where we've come from or who we currently are, then I would argue that trying to do anything with that basis would indeed be "pissing in the wind".

Like the old saying goes, "don't put the cart before the horse".

What is Quark well known for?

I would also stress the need to try and frame the response in positive since negative thinking usually leads nowhere.

I will work on my summary description and post later. Hopefully we'll have something to compare.

Cheers,
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April 13, 2017, 06:00:51 PM
I think that we need to agree on some changes to Quark so that we can move ahead with creating funding for development of such change and this will then automatically give me something to work with as far as marketing and generating interest in Quark.
Unless we innovate and move ahead there really is nothing to market as Quark as it stands now is well known and so is a yesterdays coin that has not kept up in the race due to lack of development.

Development creates community involvement and without it we are pissing in the wind.

I need something to work with. Lets discuss innovative change that will move us to a level where we all have something to work with.

The first thing anyone needs to know is that a part time developer working alone has zero chance of success here now.
QRKs main issue was it was a fair pow release with no premine.
I suspect the dev got very few coins and therefore has very limited incentive here.

Funding a dev team is the first plan of action. The main dev here should stay lead dev if he wishes and with funding select the new team paid on bounties for tasks completed as pivx did. I suggested a super block 3 years ago or a block tax. I feel now a block tax is better.
PIVx is not a success by accident. Their formula works very well. We need to emulate something like this but have a timing lock in for masternodes so you can not swap in and out so quickly.

Pivx has a 10% funding tax and working on voting system too.

Of course some of this they took from dash, their algo is quark. They have a team. We need to build a team and have a full time development crew.

Hobby coins are dead coins.

Give quark a good make over 50k per masternode and off we go.

To much talking and no action is why we go from 30k sats to 100 sats.

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legendary
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April 13, 2017, 10:21:34 AM
I am willing to be involved and my skills are entrepreneurial business management and marketing. I can help with this side of the team as that is where I perform my best.  

What can we do to get started moving ahead? some things that could be achieved this month that are a goal to work towards. I am willing to work.

That's great. I wonder what it would take from this point to bring back the qrk foundation. A lot of the original foundation had great skill in many areas.
Either that or we form our own foundation. I expect firstly though we need to drastically alter the dynamics of qrk itself. Max (the dev) seems open to this but has limited time hence we need to create a funding tax and bring on a team of designers/coders as very successful projects have done lately. With the correct development team a coin can be transformed very quickly.


I've already written about my bias for caution when considering changes and what I think that process might look like so I'll spare you a repost.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18485718

We've got to start somewhere though, and along with debating important technical changes, we've also got the PR/marketing side of things to consider. Perhaps coming up with a good slogan might be a good "baby step" to get the ball rolling? It would certainly open the door to broader discussions about what everyone thinks Quark should be and where it should be going, which could, in turn, lead into the tech realm. Entrepreneurial business management and marketing are fantastic skills with which to lead up the discussion.  Smiley
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April 13, 2017, 05:54:47 AM
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2. a lot of the qrk investors sit outside of the crypto community and are not involved or supporting the community in anyway

Thats always true of anyone holding currency.  I presume that what is meant by investors.   Iam I backing USA because I hold alot of dollars, not really I hold them for my own reasons and if anything Im speculating the dollar will do better then my own national currency and so on.   People hold QRK not as investors but partly to diversify away from their own liability elsewhere.   We all know modern cash is easily not an asset but depreciating and unsafe to hold to some extent, what bitcoin did was allow the whole world to transfer value elsewhere far more easily and hopefully QRK can prove as reliable and gain similarly.

However this is true of qrk more than nearly any other crypto currency. Bill brough it a lot of outside investment - outside of this board and outside of those with any real interest in crypto at all. That is good and bad.

Good because they are used to holding years and years and will probably never sell at a loss below 20k sats so those qrks are taken off of the market for good.

Bad because they do not get involved with/build the community at all.

Overall though i think it is good because it would not take much demand to drive the price back way up very quickly.
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April 13, 2017, 05:47:30 AM
I am willing to be involved and my skills are entrepreneurial business management and marketing. I can help with this side of the team as that is where I perform my best.  

What can we do to get started moving ahead? some things that could be achieved this month that are a goal to work towards. I am willing to work.

That's great. I wonder what it would take from this point to bring back the qrk foundation. A lot of the original foundation had great skill in many areas.
Either that or we form our own foundation. I expect firstly though we need to drastically alter the dynamics of qrk itself. Max (the dev) seems open to this but has limited time hence we need to create a funding tax and bring on a team of designers/coders as very successful projects have done lately. With the correct development team a coin can be transformed very quickly.


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April 13, 2017, 12:25:56 AM
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2. a lot of the qrk investors sit outside of the crypto community and are not involved or supporting the community in anyway

Thats always true of anyone holding currency.  I presume that what is meant by investors.   Iam I backing USA because I hold alot of dollars, not really I hold them for my own reasons and if anything Im speculating the dollar will do better then my own national currency and so on.   People hold QRK not as investors but partly to diversify away from their own liability elsewhere.   We all know modern cash is easily not an asset but depreciating and unsafe to hold to some extent, what bitcoin did was allow the whole world to transfer value elsewhere far more easily and hopefully QRK can prove as reliable and gain similarly.
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April 12, 2017, 06:21:09 PM
Quark 0.10.4.2

Note: Required upgrade for miners only, other wallets must be 0.10.4.1 or later

Note: Backup your wallet before upgrading

Changes:
* Start signalling BIP66 (Strict DER encoding), block version = 113

https://github.com/quark-project/quark/releases/tag/v0.10.4.2


Great work and finally glad to see qrk being brought back.

However it will take a total overhaul and drastic changes to make qrk relevant and exciting as it once was.

We need a plan how to fund and bring on a team of coders to work under the main developer.

Other coins have lately found success by creating a development fund and bringing on coders to complete tasks for bounties.

No one coder can compete in this sphere alone.

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April 09, 2017, 09:48:56 AM
Quark 0.10.4.2

Note: Required upgrade for miners only, other wallets must be 0.10.4.1 or later

Note: Backup your wallet before upgrading

Changes:
* Start signalling BIP66 (Strict DER encoding), block version = 113

https://github.com/quark-project/quark/releases/tag/v0.10.4.2
legendary
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April 07, 2017, 04:41:28 PM

Reliable, honest, level headed people are not easy to find in crypto.

I think they've got to be found and recruited.

It won't be easy and certainly not something to be done overnight.

It's good to see you're still here plugging away.

Cheers


Thanks, yeah great to see some of the old QRk faces back here. What will it take to get the old foundation members back onside. Smiley

I agree. However max actually does seem to have some coding skill set and lacks only time. I think with the correct funding mechanism and milestone reward system qrk can soon get back on track.

Devs that join the team with get bounties for completion of tasks. I think there is no room for trust or paying upfront any longer in this sphere.

Even the name Quark to me is still one of the very best it has a good history and the majority of the coins are locked away by investors for long term brought in from outside that will hold until it goes back above the old 30k mark.

Max seems to agree on the direction. It is now just a case of pushing ahead.
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April 07, 2017, 11:38:34 AM

Reliable, honest, level headed people are not easy to find in crypto.

I think they've got to be found and recruited.

It won't be easy and certainly not something to be done overnight.

It's good to see you're still here plugging away.

Cheers
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April 07, 2017, 04:53:39 AM
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April 07, 2017, 04:43:55 AM

Whatever changes are to be made have got to be extremely well thought out, as in "white paper" stuff. Defining the end user's needs to be met, deciding on available technology, answering the how's, why's and whether it's worth it, etc. of each possibility, have all got to be clearly spelled out. The worst thing you can do is to invest time and money into something that you end up changing (or throwing away - or worse yet, that gets thrown out with you and the bathwater by end users) later on. It's also nice to have that "road map" for the "average" person. I agree that the discussion needs to take place and this might just be as good a place as any for an open discussion about all initial ideas that everyone has to put forward. Rest assured that many a nut will come around to try and mess with people's minds, and that is another of many good reasons why we should plan on a calm, cool, collected and unhurried process if what we want is something that really is well thought out and thoroughly designed. Certainly not a task to be taken lightly or whimsically, rather something that the eventual finished product merits. Mission statements are basic helpful aspects of long term design and planning, for example, which in and of themselves can take time.

I would say that what is most important for me is first and foremost always staying as loyal as possible to the original ethos, which is that of a widely distributed decentralized cryptographic digital currency, the stronger, the better. That, in my opinion, is key to success given that its very design was to fulfill that precise end and meet the monetary security needs of the end user for whom it was designed. Originally it was to protect people's wealth from centralized and controlled fiat depreciation. What's the purpose and how do we best achieve it? That's my central question.

I think everything opens up from that fundamental starting point. Everything in between both ends of the spectrum is then on the table, with one extreme being something more like a vehicle for long term store of wealth, and the other being the idea that it should be something to be used to buy coffee at Starbucks . . . and everything in between, as I said. Different technologies might be more suitable for some designs than others. There's certainly a lot to be considered. It would also be nice to try and get the opinions of larger and longer term holders to the degree that that might be reliably possible.

Nevertheless, I think the immutable foundation from which to build is a widely distributed decentralized secure cryptographic digital currency that really is tried and true secure. That's my 2 cents on where we should begin. Spare me Ethereum hackable innovations. No sir. I'll let others play with testing as I prefer to use the stable version. I want "Known Good". And I think that when it comes to making sure their money is safe, that's exactly what the majority of people want. I think that being able to buy coffee at Starbucks comes in a distant 2nd, or 3rd, or 4th, or 5th, way down on the priority list, and it's a niche at that. (Nobody's going to have all the market - at least not for many years anyway - and all the big survivors are going to fill niches). You can't be everything to everybody, can you? Realistically thinking? And to throw caution to the wind in an attempt to do so? I think it's best to stay with what you do better than anyone else, and in this case I think that means being the best storage of wealth, first and foremost, and then build on that.

Anyhow, I think you've got a great idea there to start talking about what can be done to revive Quark, and to do my part to help get the discussion going, I hereby present these very humble opinions on what I think is the fundamental basis from which to work.  Wink



"a widely distributed decentralized secure cryptographic digital currency that really is tried and true secure" I could not agree more with this statement and I believe we have this with Quark as it is now with the latest working client.
What we have is a problem with mining viability in that it cost more to run POW than Quark is worth. The only way to move forward as POW and to make it viable to be POW is to increase the value of Quark until its viable and cost effective.
Problem is without development to increase value we will see Quark do what its been doing and slowly decline to an un-viable dead project that gives no return to vested parties involved and people move to the next viable option. Human require incentive this is a fundamental truth that will never change.

POS would solve the viability problem and this = 1 positive move for Quark

This does not however solve the issue with development incentive and this is Quarks main downfall. We must create development incentive.

I do think we can sure try to be everything to everyone as that will be the most widely accepted crypto, but understand that there are flaws with different aspects of each innovation that is utilized. But this is where we can innovate around these new innovations and better them.





Yes this is why we need to employ the 10 % dev tax with governance that dash and pivx have.

We need max to bring on a team to help him get qrk back into the race again. One person can not compete alone these days.

Also bittrex and polo need to be onboard. Anyone who can contact these exchanges and alert them to the upcoming and possible comeback of qrk whilst it is still cheap is doing qrk a favor. ALthough I don't like it they need have  chunk of qrk to allow us to use their service.

The qrk dev has already said up thread that some a huge revamp is in accordance with what he sees for qrk going forward.

He just does not seem to have the time alone to focus on qrk 24/7.

We the block tax (that I mentioned years ago here) to fund a development team that are dedicated full time to this project.

If we had introduced these changes 2 years ago we would probably be top 10 -20 now. Let's get cracking on it now.
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April 06, 2017, 09:27:14 PM
  What can help Quark is if the btc38 links page for Quark could be updated. http://www.btc38.com/altcoin/qrk/    I mention this to btc38 and gave them the link to the new website http://www.qrknet.info/  But they haven't updated anything yet. Chinese investors depend on this page for their info. Some of these links are dead. It is discouraging most of the Chinese and world investors. If the rest of you could send a line over to btc38 it would help the most.
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April 06, 2017, 04:41:57 PM

Whatever changes are to be made have got to be extremely well thought out, as in "white paper" stuff. Defining the end user's needs to be met, deciding on available technology, answering the how's, why's and whether it's worth it, etc. of each possibility, have all got to be clearly spelled out. The worst thing you can do is to invest time and money into something that you end up changing (or throwing away - or worse yet, that gets thrown out with you and the bathwater by end users) later on. It's also nice to have that "road map" for the "average" person. I agree that the discussion needs to take place and this might just be as good a place as any for an open discussion about all initial ideas that everyone has to put forward. Rest assured that many a nut will come around to try and mess with people's minds, and that is another of many good reasons why we should plan on a calm, cool, collected and unhurried process if what we want is something that really is well thought out and thoroughly designed. Certainly not a task to be taken lightly or whimsically, rather something that the eventual finished product merits. Mission statements are basic helpful aspects of long term design and planning, for example, which in and of themselves can take time.

I would say that what is most important for me is first and foremost always staying as loyal as possible to the original ethos, which is that of a widely distributed decentralized cryptographic digital currency, the stronger, the better. That, in my opinion, is key to success given that its very design was to fulfill that precise end and meet the monetary security needs of the end user for whom it was designed. Originally it was to protect people's wealth from centralized and controlled fiat depreciation. What's the purpose and how do we best achieve it? That's my central question.

I think everything opens up from that fundamental starting point. Everything in between both ends of the spectrum is then on the table, with one extreme being something more like a vehicle for long term store of wealth, and the other being the idea that it should be something to be used to buy coffee at Starbucks . . . and everything in between, as I said. Different technologies might be more suitable for some designs than others. There's certainly a lot to be considered. It would also be nice to try and get the opinions of larger and longer term holders to the degree that that might be reliably possible.

Nevertheless, I think the immutable foundation from which to build is a widely distributed decentralized secure cryptographic digital currency that really is tried and true secure. That's my 2 cents on where we should begin. Spare me Ethereum hackable innovations. No sir. I'll let others play with testing as I prefer to use the stable version. I want "Known Good". And I think that when it comes to making sure their money is safe, that's exactly what the majority of people want. I think that being able to buy coffee at Starbucks comes in a distant 2nd, or 3rd, or 4th, or 5th, way down on the priority list, and it's a niche at that. (Nobody's going to have all the market - at least not for many years anyway - and all the big survivors are going to fill niches). You can't be everything to everybody, can you? Realistically thinking? And to throw caution to the wind in an attempt to do so? I think it's best to stay with what you do better than anyone else, and in this case I think that means being the best storage of wealth, first and foremost, and then build on that.

Anyhow, I think you've got a great idea there to start talking about what can be done to revive Quark, and to do my part to help get the discussion going, I hereby present these very humble opinions on what I think is the fundamental basis from which to work.  Wink

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April 06, 2017, 05:01:05 AM
the dev needs to bring on a team through the 10% funding tax like dash has.

he can not code all this himself.

qkr is a famous coin that can easily be revamped.

need bittrex and polo to accumulate some whilst it is still cheap so they will list it.

I would say no more pow just go POS only.
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April 05, 2017, 10:33:15 AM
Quark is in good positions in this MapOfCoins.com

Much better than the current price valuation.
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I have joined this cryptoscene in 2013, and this was the first coin I have invested into. furthermore, I told my friends and family to do the same Grin unfortunately it happened right at the peak of 30 cents, but who could predict the ending result? I remember that Bill Still guy and our expectations before his coverages Grin
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April 02, 2017, 07:06:52 AM
Quark 0.10.4.1

Note: Required upgrade

Note: Backup your wallet before upgrading

Upgrade Quark to Bitcoin 0.10.4.0 base.

Includes all changes from Bitcoin 0.10.0 to Bitcoin 0.10.4, notably:

BIP66 (Strict DER encoding)
BIP65 (OP_CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY)
REST interface
Faster synchronization
BIP65 and BIP66 will enable when 75% and disconnect incompatible clients when 90% of last 10,000 blocks are mined using 0.10.4.

Note changes in .conf file for rpc access control:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/release-notes/release-notes-0.10.0.md#rpc-access-control-changes
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