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newbie
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September 06, 2013, 11:31:06 PM
So now many quarks can one get in a 24 hour period with a better CPU?  Like say an 8 core AMD or an older L5420 Xeon CPU or an newer i7?

I'm trying to see if it's worth it to build up a new CPU rig to mine quarks or if an existing one I have (the dual core L5420 xeon dell 1U server) is good enough.  TIA

I think with current reward (512 per block) a pessimistic rough estimate is hasrate * 3.5 (or better) in a pool.
E.g. FX-8350 at 1.1mhash will make 3800 quarks/day now. But remember that reward halves quite fast.
zvs
legendary
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September 06, 2013, 10:47:32 PM
The hashrate is a linear frequency function (what a rocket science). For quark algo just divide frequency by 27.5 for no HT, or by 40 for HT to estimate Khashes PER THREAD. If you run less threads than CPUs on HT, the number is somewhere in between. E.g. for 3 threads on 4-thread CPU or 6 threads on 8-thread CPU it is ~35, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3076346. It would be nice if various CPU owners will try the formula and prove or disprove it.

I have an AMD Sempron 145 Sargas 2.8GHz (single core) w/ "core unlocked" and overclocked a bit (with that motherboard's "OC Genie") that gets about 220khash..  my i7-960 (it's not overclocked, but I have turbomode enabled, so it does that automatically, goes to 3.35ghash or so) can get about 600-620khash/s tops..  i7-4770k is 1mhash+, but well, it costs a lot more than what you'd need for equivalent from AMD CPU

oh, *intel e6850 gets around 200khash w/o overclocking

Great, formula seems to work for AMDs too, assuming Sempron 145 runs at 3+GHz. Can you measure wattage for Sempron, stock and overclocked?

Haswell seems to be a different story.

I'll check it out tomorrow (or later tonight if I get time) w/ the kill-a-watt.... guess I'll check the e-6850 while I'm at it as well..

Quote

i added a symbolic link to the p2pool logfile for this (like I have for bitcoin), it's at www.nogleg.com/quark.log ...  it gets rather lengthy & is cleaned somewhat regularly (things to look for:  got share  and got block)

oh, i have the min fee on my quarkcoind set to 0.0001, so it doesn't pick up a lot of transactions.  err, mostly just my own (i voluntarily add some 0.0005).... also, ignore the occasional '> Block submittal result: False (u'rejected') Expected: True'...  unsure why that pops up sometime, re: the block at 22:50:34.586803 submitted fine;  

http://176.221.46.81/block/000000004b668e46df09835a6df571a082b4a9ad9514f36ed0dda1e9b89fa51f

time is CST, UTC -5    (current payout shows the payout to my address, from colonel sanders and hamburglar)
newbie
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September 06, 2013, 10:39:24 PM
The hashrate is a linear frequency function (what a rocket science). For quark algo just divide frequency by 27.5 for no HT, or by 40 for HT to estimate Khashes PER THREAD. If you run less threads than CPUs on HT, the number is somewhere in between. E.g. for 3 threads on 4-thread CPU or 6 threads on 8-thread CPU it is ~35, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3076346. It would be nice if various CPU owners will try the formula and prove or disprove it.

I have an AMD Sempron 145 Sargas 2.8GHz (single core) w/ "core unlocked" and overclocked a bit (with that motherboard's "OC Genie") that gets about 220khash..  my i7-960 (it's not overclocked, but I have turbomode enabled, so it does that automatically, goes to 3.35ghash or so) can get about 600-620khash/s tops..  i7-4770k is 1mhash+, but well, it costs a lot more than what you'd need for equivalent from AMD CPU

oh, *intel e6850 gets around 200khash w/o overclocking

Great, formula seems to work for AMDs too, assuming Sempron 145 runs at 3+GHz. Can you measure wattage for Sempron, stock and overclocked?

Haswell seems to be a different story.
newbie
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September 06, 2013, 10:30:59 PM
The hashrate is a linear frequency function (what a rocket science). For quark algo just divide frequency by 27.5 for no HT, or by 40 for HT to estimate Khashes PER THREAD. If you run less threads than CPUs on HT, the number is somewhere in between. E.g. for 3 threads on 4-thread CPU or 6 threads on 8-thread CPU it is ~35, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3076346. It would be nice if various CPU owners will try the formula and prove or disprove it.

I run a Core 2 based Xeon box which I used to mine with. The two processors run at 2.5GHz.

2500/27.5 = 90 kH/s/core.

Since I have 8 cores, I should be mining at 720 kH/s, but I only get 600 kH/s. That means I'm running at 83% capacity. Something is seriously wrong.

It could be different for MP systems.
Just to check - did you use the same miner version? What is hashrate if you run only 4 threads (on one CPU)?
legendary
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September 06, 2013, 09:45:00 PM
So now many quarks can one get in a 24 hour period with a better CPU?  Like say an 8 core AMD or an older L5420 Xeon CPU or an newer i7?

I'm trying to see if it's worth it to build up a new CPU rig to mine quarks or if an existing one I have (the dual core L5420 xeon dell 1U server) is good enough.  TIA
zvs
legendary
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https://web.archive.org/web/*/nogleg.com
September 06, 2013, 09:31:02 PM
Did some benchmarks of the sse4 miner (just took this version https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3047868) on a bunch of Intel Core2 Duo and Ivy bridge, and here comes the great equation.

The hashrate is a linear frequency function (what a rocket science). For quark algo just divide frequency by 27.5 for no HT, or by 40 for HT to estimate Khashes PER THREAD. If you run less threads than CPUs on HT, the number is somewhere in between. E.g. for 3 threads on 4-thread CPU or 6 threads on 8-thread CPU it is ~35, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3076346. It would be nice if various CPU owners will try the formula and prove or disprove it.

I do not have any AMDs at hand, but it seems they follow "no HT" path for ALL cores (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3021817). Thus, high-frequency AMD FXs are winners in terms of kh per CPU. I am getting 780kh on i7 3770k at 4GHz with HT (8 * 98), while FX 8350 gives 1100kh at 4 GHz (8 * 140). Here power consumption comes into play. For Intel it is ~8kh/watt for IB and ~2kh/watt or less for C2D. Can anyone provide wattage for AMDs (real-world numbers, not from online benchmarks)? Sandy Bridge and Haswell numbers would be usefull as well. Lets make quark hardware comparision table  Wink

I have an AMD Sempron 145 Sargas 2.8GHz (single core) w/ "core unlocked" and overclocked a bit (with that motherboard's "OC Genie") that gets about 220khash..  my i7-960 (it's not overclocked, but I have turbomode enabled, so it does that automatically, goes to 3.35ghash or so) can get about 600-620khash/s tops..  i7-4770k is 1mhash+, but well, it costs a lot more than what you'd need for equivalent from AMD CPU

oh, *intel e6850 gets around 200khash w/o overclocking
member
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September 06, 2013, 05:54:57 PM
Repost. Updated

AMD Bulldozer optimized client Win64bit and maybe some intels
---===---===---===---
built from StoneFoz version1 Which doubled speed and beyond

v2 was having many issues (+reject, +orphan for me) , bin below is version 1

8150 Stock 8 cores = .8~1.1 mhash
8350 Stock 8 cores = 1~?? mhash
4300 Stock 4 cores = .46+ mhash=+


Bulldozer 1 (more compatable) and Bulldozer gen 2 (more specialized)
https://sourceforge.net/projects/philosopherstone/files/QRK/

Tips appreciated: QRK: QQVzchEu7aqAfc71NZa1TYi3toih6abCtk


Re-posting because this is not AMD bulldozer only, and may in fact work on the newer intels as well.

this is not the uber optimized client, will post when over 2mhash per chip

and i'm telling you AGAIN it crashes on my Intel CPU (both versions in the archive)
i downloaded it before and tried them all and i re-downloaded just now and tried them all..
arguing doesn't make code run lol

Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 = fail / crash on start up - win 7 x64
and yeah i checked and these are 64bit builds not x86

and your welcome for the constructive feedback and time and effort i took to test this everyone Wink

edit:
I'd love to know how that guy is compiling code from GitHub.. all its giving me is compiler errors with mingw on windows
i can get various previous version of the code to run just fine..
i often see "get the tarball" but how am i suppose to find that ?
all i can see on the github page is the button that says download zip or that other page with the .zip + targz
and that can't be the tarball because i see these devs constantly telling people asking for help compiling it code to not use it and use the tarball
when autogen.sh fails etc.. so obviously the tarball should have more files inside the archive in it so you don't have to run that command right ?
this quark miner stuff is severe pain in the ass for a noob to come along and get the newest version and compile.
these miners should have dedicated topic or do they already ?

bottom line: I'm figuring it all out on my own anyway, so whatever keep scrolling guys lol
started in on linux and c/c++ well over a decade ago and its sucks balls i can't use VS as an ide Sad
so yes i am a noob but no i am not.. i may start a new thread soon with a tutorial on building this on windows for people..

Sorry, I'm not quite the wizard with autotools. Anyway, compile it on either linux, or someone has been successful with mingw or cygwin. Autotools doesn't do MSVS. SO HERE:

git clone https://github.com/uncle-bob/quarkcoin-cpuminer.git 
cd quarkcoin-cpuminer 
sh autogen.sh 
./configure CFLAGS="-msse2" 
make 

-msse2 is not optional, should be built into the build scripts. However, I've avoided getting good with autotools this long, might as well not start now. Really anyone have a simple examples for autotools? They seem to all turn into a huge pita quickly. Step two might be cmake or anything else.

really though,  the code at: 

http://stonefoz.myfastmail.com/ 

is probably the best, first release where fast is first.
I've been monkeying around with stuff on github, should be faster later, just not anytime soon. Rewriting large bits and it's going to be broken some times.

I was having some trouble with this also but there is a README that suggested using:
Code:
./configure CFLAGS="-msse2 -O3"
This finally compiled correctly on my Xubuntu linux box and seems to be running properly.
legendary
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September 06, 2013, 04:54:00 PM
Did some benchmarks of the sse4 miner (just took this version https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3047868) on a bunch of Intel Core2 Duo and Ivy bridge, and here comes the great equation.

The hashrate is a linear frequency function (what a rocket science). For quark algo just divide frequency by 27.5 for no HT, or by 40 for HT to estimate Khashes PER THREAD. If you run less threads than CPUs on HT, the number is somewhere in between. E.g. for 3 threads on 4-thread CPU or 6 threads on 8-thread CPU it is ~35, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3076346. It would be nice if various CPU owners will try the formula and prove or disprove it.

I do not have any AMDs at hand, but it seems they follow "no HT" path for ALL cores (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3021817). Thus, high-frequency AMD FXs are winners in terms of kh per CPU. I am getting 780kh on i7 3770k at 4GHz with HT (8 * 98), while FX 8350 gives 1100kh at 4 GHz (8 * 140). Here power consumption comes into play. For Intel it is ~8kh/watt for IB and ~2kh/watt or less for C2D. Can anyone provide wattage for AMDs (real-world numbers, not from online benchmarks)? Sandy Bridge and Haswell numbers would be usefull as well. Lets make quark hardware comparision table  Wink

I run a Core 2 based Xeon box which I used to mine with. The two processors run at 2.5GHz.

2500/27.5 = 90 kH/s/core.

Since I have 8 cores, I should be mining at 720 kH/s, but I only get 600 kH/s. That means I'm running at 83% capacity. Something is seriously wrong.

Matthew:out

So how many quarks do you get per 24 hours?  Just an estimate.  TIA.
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September 06, 2013, 04:19:59 PM
Did some benchmarks of the sse4 miner (just took this version https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3047868) on a bunch of Intel Core2 Duo and Ivy bridge, and here comes the great equation.

The hashrate is a linear frequency function (what a rocket science). For quark algo just divide frequency by 27.5 for no HT, or by 40 for HT to estimate Khashes PER THREAD. If you run less threads than CPUs on HT, the number is somewhere in between. E.g. for 3 threads on 4-thread CPU or 6 threads on 8-thread CPU it is ~35, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3076346. It would be nice if various CPU owners will try the formula and prove or disprove it.

I do not have any AMDs at hand, but it seems they follow "no HT" path for ALL cores (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3021817). Thus, high-frequency AMD FXs are winners in terms of kh per CPU. I am getting 780kh on i7 3770k at 4GHz with HT (8 * 98), while FX 8350 gives 1100kh at 4 GHz (8 * 140). Here power consumption comes into play. For Intel it is ~8kh/watt for IB and ~2kh/watt or less for C2D. Can anyone provide wattage for AMDs (real-world numbers, not from online benchmarks)? Sandy Bridge and Haswell numbers would be usefull as well. Lets make quark hardware comparision table  Wink

I run a Core 2 based Xeon box which I used to mine with. The two processors run at 2.5GHz.

2500/27.5 = 90 kH/s/core.

Since I have 8 cores, I should be mining at 720 kH/s, but I only get 600 kH/s. That means I'm running at 83% capacity. Something is seriously wrong.

Matthew:out
legendary
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September 06, 2013, 01:31:04 PM
Guys - there was a bug on qrk.coinmine.pl and you received much more coins than pool earned... :/ I am reviewing data right now and will update you on my findings.

feeleep
newbie
Activity: 44
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September 06, 2013, 10:49:04 AM
Did some benchmarks of the sse4 miner (just took this version https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3047868) on a bunch of Intel Core2 Duo and Ivy bridge, and here comes the great equation.

The hashrate is a linear frequency function (what a rocket science). For quark algo just divide frequency by 27.5 for no HT, or by 40 for HT to estimate Khashes PER THREAD. If you run less threads than CPUs on HT, the number is somewhere in between. E.g. for 3 threads on 4-thread CPU or 6 threads on 8-thread CPU it is ~35, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3076346. It would be nice if various CPU owners will try the formula and prove or disprove it.

I do not have any AMDs at hand, but it seems they follow "no HT" path for ALL cores (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3021817). Thus, high-frequency AMD FXs are winners in terms of kh per CPU. I am getting 780kh on i7 3770k at 4GHz with HT (8 * 98), while FX 8350 gives 1100kh at 4 GHz (8 * 140). Here power consumption comes into play. For Intel it is ~8kh/watt for IB and ~2kh/watt or less for C2D. Can anyone provide wattage for AMDs (real-world numbers, not from online benchmarks)? Sandy Bridge and Haswell numbers would be usefull as well. Lets make quark hardware comparision table  Wink
sr. member
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onore dikeido
September 06, 2013, 05:28:38 AM
are you on a debian based system (ubuntu, mint, etc), if so:
Code:
sudo apt-get install -y libcurl4-openssl-dev
otherwise look for a libcurl dev(eloper) package.

for compiling you need the headers of given libs. ie, if you have a library libfoo, you need to install libfoo-dev if you want to use it in your code.

no, i using Archlinux. well 'curl' package contain header (theres no *-dev package on Arch), thats why im asking here.
anyway thanks for replying.
zvs
legendary
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September 06, 2013, 04:49:16 AM
Using: https://github.com/uncle-bob/quarkcoin-cpuminer

E3-1230 (quad-core, HT)
90khash per thread, 540khash on six of eight threads.

i5-3570S (quad-core)
130khash per thread, 400khash on three of four threads.

i7-3770S (quad-core, HT)
80khash per thread, 520khash on six of eight threads.

Xeon X3440 (quad-core, HT)
66khash per thread, 400khash on six of eight threads.

i3-2130 (dual-core, HT)
100khash per thread, 300khash on three of four threads.

you should be able to get faster on the i7-3770s

my i7-960 gets 600khash on 8 threads (on turbomode), i7-4770k gets like 1mhash

if it gets to 100oC it'll start to throttle itself

100C? thats a horrible cooling system...

right, but i know that's when i7's start to throttle, pretty sure it's the same for i5's and i3's
legendary
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September 06, 2013, 04:48:19 AM
@quarkcoin @Guido


outstanding!
simply outstanding

whats your qrk wallet addy?

think will add to site whatever its amazing
cheers
legendary
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/dev/null
September 06, 2013, 02:38:20 AM
Sorry, I'm not quite the wizard with autotools. Anyway, compile it on either linux, or someone has been successful with mingw or cygwin. Autotools doesn't do MSVS. SO HERE:

git clone https://github.com/uncle-bob/quarkcoin-cpuminer.git  
cd quarkcoin-cpuminer  
sh autogen.sh  
./configure CFLAGS="-msse2"  
make  

-msse2 is not optional, should be built into the build scripts. However, I've avoided getting good with autotools this long, might as well not start now. Really anyone have a simple examples for autotools? They seem to all turn into a huge pita quickly. Step two might be cmake or anything else.

really though,  the code at:  

http://stonefoz.myfastmail.com/  

is probably the best, first release where fast is first.
I've been monkeying around with stuff on github, should be faster later, just not anytime soon. Rewriting large bits and it's going to be broken some times.

when i run ./configure CFLAGS="-msse2"
i get

./configure: line 5577: syntax error near unexpected token `,'
./configure: line 5577: `LIBCURL_CHECK_CONFIG(, 7.15.2, ,'

but i have curl 7.32.0 installed

any idea??
are you on a debian based system (ubuntu, mint, etc), if so:
Code:
sudo apt-get install -y libcurl4-openssl-dev
otherwise look for a libcurl dev(eloper) package.

for compiling you need the headers of given libs. ie, if you have a library libfoo, you need to install libfoo-dev if you want to use it in your code.
sr. member
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onore dikeido
September 06, 2013, 01:13:57 AM
Sorry, I'm not quite the wizard with autotools. Anyway, compile it on either linux, or someone has been successful with mingw or cygwin. Autotools doesn't do MSVS. SO HERE:

git clone https://github.com/uncle-bob/quarkcoin-cpuminer.git 
cd quarkcoin-cpuminer 
sh autogen.sh 
./configure CFLAGS="-msse2" 
make 

-msse2 is not optional, should be built into the build scripts. However, I've avoided getting good with autotools this long, might as well not start now. Really anyone have a simple examples for autotools? They seem to all turn into a huge pita quickly. Step two might be cmake or anything else.

really though,  the code at: 

http://stonefoz.myfastmail.com/ 

is probably the best, first release where fast is first.
I've been monkeying around with stuff on github, should be faster later, just not anytime soon. Rewriting large bits and it's going to be broken some times.

when i run ./configure CFLAGS="-msse2"
i get

./configure: line 5577: syntax error near unexpected token `,'
./configure: line 5577: `LIBCURL_CHECK_CONFIG(, 7.15.2, ,'

but i have curl 7.32.0 installed

any idea??
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1008
/dev/null
September 06, 2013, 01:13:17 AM
Using: https://github.com/uncle-bob/quarkcoin-cpuminer

E3-1230 (quad-core, HT)
90khash per thread, 540khash on six of eight threads.

i5-3570S (quad-core)
130khash per thread, 400khash on three of four threads.

i7-3770S (quad-core, HT)
80khash per thread, 520khash on six of eight threads.

Xeon X3440 (quad-core, HT)
66khash per thread, 400khash on six of eight threads.

i3-2130 (dual-core, HT)
100khash per thread, 300khash on three of four threads.

you should be able to get faster on the i7-3770s

my i7-960 gets 600khash on 8 threads (on turbomode), i7-4770k gets like 1mhash

if it gets to 100oC it'll start to throttle itself

100C? thats a horrible cooling system...
zvs
legendary
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Merit: 1000
https://web.archive.org/web/*/nogleg.com
September 05, 2013, 04:31:47 PM
Using: https://github.com/uncle-bob/quarkcoin-cpuminer

E3-1230 (quad-core, HT)
90khash per thread, 540khash on six of eight threads.

i5-3570S (quad-core)
130khash per thread, 400khash on three of four threads.

i7-3770S (quad-core, HT)
80khash per thread, 520khash on six of eight threads.

Xeon X3440 (quad-core, HT)
66khash per thread, 400khash on six of eight threads.

i3-2130 (dual-core, HT)
100khash per thread, 300khash on three of four threads.

you should be able to get faster on the i7-3770s

my i7-960 gets 600khash on 8 threads (on turbomode), i7-4770k gets like 1mhash

if it gets to 100oC it'll start to throttle itself
sr. member
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September 05, 2013, 03:46:38 PM
which is the best miner for a i5 3570k? cant find any Sad
sr. member
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September 05, 2013, 03:26:01 PM
is there a miner for mac ?
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