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Topic: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade - page 388. (Read 1031025 times)

legendary
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September 12, 2013, 07:35:01 AM
I was overwhelmed by the amount of logo on the quarkcoin web site.  Nearly had a stroke.  We need someone with talent to take over the website. 
zvs
legendary
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Merit: 1000
https://web.archive.org/web/*/nogleg.com
September 12, 2013, 06:41:18 AM

almost perfect exchange unfotunately so far it is missing one quite important ingredience..... there is no volume.....
and without volume it is quite a problem....
but I must admit that it is well done but they should offer something to attract people and liquidity, I tried to bought several coins but of course so far without success. And I am thinking of sending my funds away....
In this initial period they should offer eg trading of new coins which are not possible to trade anywhere else or low fees or some special news for cryptocoin community otherwise I dont know why I should put my money and enable them liquidity with my funds....

Agree 100 %. The pathetic trade volume is a serious problem. Also, the difficulty has halved over the past 24 hours. In other words, the support from both miners and traders is decreasing fast. Those are very bad signs for the future of Quarkcoin.
the trade volume where?  it gets plenty of volume on crypsty,

https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/71


that new exchange has pathetic trade volume, yes

hero member
Activity: 1426
Merit: 506
September 12, 2013, 04:15:01 AM
For scrypt mining (and scrypt-jane) it takes 65536 hashes to get a share of diff 1. It also takes 65536 shares (diff 1) for every point of difficulty to find a block. This doesn't seem to be the case for QRK. Does anyone know these values for QRK?

That's not entirely right.
IMHO there is a somewhat defacto standard for stratum only, where the diff for scrypt based coins is a 65536 multiply if the original diff which the wallet reports.

So Bitcoin, Litecoin, and so on all require at average for a wallet-diff 1 2^32 hashes (means 65536*65536)
Quarkcoin and quarkcoin clones are "one byte off", means a wallet-diff 1 needs at average 2^24 hashes
Since scrypt is much slower than the sha stuff, scrypt based coins started with a much lower difficulty (i think 256*128 times lower) than bitcoin based ones.
I don't know if stratum at first only supported integer diffs and not the needed 0.00xxx diffs, or whatever the reason was, somehow on stratum the coins diff (as reported by the wallet) is multiplied by 65536.

As said for Quark: Diff 1 is 2^24. Stratum shouldn't modify this value. At least i didn't code any reversing of stratum diff in the minerd.

(If i did write garbage, please correct me)

Sounds like someone switched off a botnet (or his boss found out). The hashrate on the few p2pools I checked, including mine, is rather stable. Also, was the diff really above 950? I don't look for the diff often, didn't notice that.

Also we have some mainly 1:1 clones using the quark hashing algorithm
Very helpful, thank you!
zvs
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1000
https://web.archive.org/web/*/nogleg.com
September 12, 2013, 02:14:23 AM
Did some benchmarks of the sse4 miner (just took this version https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3047868) on a bunch of Intel Core2 Duo and Ivy bridge, and here comes the great equation.

The hashrate is a linear frequency function (what a rocket science). For quark algo just divide frequency by 27.5 for no HT, or by 40 for HT to estimate Khashes PER THREAD. If you run less threads than CPUs on HT, the number is somewhere in between. E.g. for 3 threads on 4-thread CPU or 6 threads on 8-thread CPU it is ~35, see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3076346. It would be nice if various CPU owners will try the formula and prove or disprove it.

I do not have any AMDs at hand, but it seems they follow "no HT" path for ALL cores (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3021817). Thus, high-frequency AMD FXs are winners in terms of kh per CPU. I am getting 780kh on i7 3770k at 4GHz with HT (8 * 98), while FX 8350 gives 1100kh at 4 GHz (8 * 140). Here power consumption comes into play. For Intel it is ~8kh/watt for IB and ~2kh/watt or less for C2D. Can anyone provide wattage for AMDs (real-world numbers, not from online benchmarks)? Sandy Bridge and Haswell numbers would be usefull as well. Lets make quark hardware comparision table  Wink

I have an AMD Sempron 145 Sargas 2.8GHz (single core) w/ "core unlocked" and overclocked a bit (with that motherboard's "OC Genie") that gets about 220khash..  my i7-960 (it's not overclocked, but I have turbomode enabled, so it does that automatically, goes to 3.35ghash or so) can get about 600-620khash/s tops..  i7-4770k is 1mhash+, but well, it costs a lot more than what you'd need for equivalent from AMD CPU

oh, *intel e6850 gets around 200khash w/o overclocking

err, never got around to this

had an emergency visit to the hospital to get my gall bladder removed  Undecided

i haven't read posts after this yet, so if nothing is still there, i'll try it this weekend
full member
Activity: 141
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September 11, 2013, 06:54:16 PM

hope he is definetely gone. He made a lot of bad things to quarkcoin and community.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
September 11, 2013, 12:00:50 PM


I want to eat that. Can't someone make quark candy? And for every bag of quarks you buy, you get some coins. Tongue And of course you eventually get enough coins to buy more quarks with it, or other goods/services. Let's get it into Walmart.
full member
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September 11, 2013, 11:35:02 AM
legendary
Activity: 1061
Merit: 1001
September 10, 2013, 12:56:37 PM
some good news for qrk
scammer is gone
http://forum.quarkcoin.org/Thread-Good-News-scammer-gone
member
Activity: 60
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September 10, 2013, 04:40:45 AM
For scrypt mining (and scrypt-jane) it takes 65536 hashes to get a share of diff 1. It also takes 65536 shares (diff 1) for every point of difficulty to find a block. This doesn't seem to be the case for QRK. Does anyone know these values for QRK?

That's not entirely right.
IMHO there is a somewhat defacto standard for stratum only, where the diff for scrypt based coins is a 65536 multiply if the original diff which the wallet reports.

So Bitcoin, Litecoin, and so on all require at average for a wallet-diff 1 2^32 hashes (means 65536*65536)
Quarkcoin and quarkcoin clones are "one byte off", means a wallet-diff 1 needs at average 2^24 hashes
Since scrypt is much slower than the sha stuff, scrypt based coins started with a much lower difficulty (i think 256*128 times lower) than bitcoin based ones.
I don't know if stratum at first only supported integer diffs and not the needed 0.00xxx diffs, or whatever the reason was, somehow on stratum the coins diff (as reported by the wallet) is multiplied by 65536.

As said for Quark: Diff 1 is 2^24. Stratum shouldn't modify this value. At least i didn't code any reversing of stratum diff in the minerd.

(If i did write garbage, please correct me)

Sounds like someone switched off a botnet (or his boss found out). The hashrate on the few p2pools I checked, including mine, is rather stable. Also, was the diff really above 950? I don't look for the diff often, didn't notice that.

Also we have some mainly 1:1 clones using the quark hashing algorithm
hero member
Activity: 717
Merit: 501
September 09, 2013, 11:39:29 PM
Sep 02 - 512
Sep 23 - 256
Oct 14 - 128
Nov 07 - 64
Nov 28 - 32
Dec 19 - 16
legendary
Activity: 2088
Merit: 1015
September 09, 2013, 11:34:12 PM
Can anyone list the approximate dates to when the coin reward will halve.  Every three weeks.  When was the last halve.

September 2nd was the last, putting 3 weeks at September 23rd.

How much coins is in block now? 1024 or 512?
Has now halved to 512
hero member
Activity: 717
Merit: 501
September 09, 2013, 11:28:44 PM
Can anyone list the approximate dates to when the coin reward will halve.  Every three weeks.  When was the last halve.
full member
Activity: 193
Merit: 100
September 09, 2013, 06:13:51 PM

almost perfect exchange unfotunately so far it is missing one quite important ingredience..... there is no volume.....
and without volume it is quite a problem....
but I must admit that it is well done but they should offer something to attract people and liquidity, I tried to bought several coins but of course so far without success. And I am thinking of sending my funds away....
In this initial period they should offer eg trading of new coins which are not possible to trade anywhere else or low fees or some special news for cryptocoin community otherwise I dont know why I should put my money and enable them liquidity with my funds....

Agree 100 %. The pathetic trade volume is a serious problem. Also, the difficulty has halved over the past 24 hours. In other words, the support from both miners and traders is decreasing fast. Those are very bad signs for the future of Quarkcoin.

I didn't notice a big change in the difficulty. Recently it is always fluctuating around 500 (sometimes ~400, sometimes ~600). Also, the supply is decreasing dramatically due to the reduced block reward. So, to some extent,  it is expected that the trade volume also goes down.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
September 09, 2013, 04:17:34 PM
already tried adding it numerous times dude Wink

trust me this shit is messed up.. if you can compile it feel free to gimme advice

so far i've gotten, "well some builds may be broken"

lol

so people may want to know their screwed if they see the getting started page on the SRC pool i'm on for example
whether it says to go grab it and compile it etc

people passing around failed messy broken git code links s pretty lame !
luckily no one seems to care hahha


and someone posting misc builds proves nothing.. doesn't mean it was current from GIT Wink

NO NO NO, IT IS NOT ADDED.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 501
September 09, 2013, 12:51:08 PM
Sounds like someone switched off a botnet (or his boss found out). The hashrate on the few p2pools I checked, including mine, is rather stable. Also, was the diff really above 950? I don't look for the diff often, didn't notice that.
member
Activity: 129
Merit: 12
September 09, 2013, 12:43:31 PM

almost perfect exchange unfotunately so far it is missing one quite important ingredience..... there is no volume.....
and without volume it is quite a problem....
but I must admit that it is well done but they should offer something to attract people and liquidity, I tried to bought several coins but of course so far without success. And I am thinking of sending my funds away....
In this initial period they should offer eg trading of new coins which are not possible to trade anywhere else or low fees or some special news for cryptocoin community otherwise I dont know why I should put my money and enable them liquidity with my funds....

Agree 100 %. The pathetic trade volume is a serious problem. Also, the difficulty has halved over the past 24 hours. In other words, the support from both miners and traders is decreasing fast. Those are very bad signs for the future of Quarkcoin.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
September 09, 2013, 10:45:08 AM
already tried adding it numerous times dude Wink

trust me this shit is messed up.. if you can compile it feel free to gimme advice

so far i've gotten, "well some builds may be broken"

lol

so people may want to know their screwed if they see the getting started page on the SRC pool i'm on for example
whether it says to go grab it and compile it etc

people passing around failed messy broken git code links s pretty lame !
luckily no one seems to care hahha


and someone posting misc builds proves nothing.. doesn't mean it was current from GIT Wink
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
September 09, 2013, 08:47:48 AM
be nice to get uncle_bobs newest git code to work.. GCC on windows throws compiler errors. *STILL

can ANYONE get it to build ?

this is the best code base ? or should i go with the other one ?

here is my build log..

Code:
$ make
make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/c/code/quarkminer'
Making all in compat
make[2]: Entering directory `/c/code/quarkminer/compat'
Making all in jansson
make[3]: Entering directory `/c/code/quarkminer/compat/jansson'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/c/code/quarkminer/compat/jansson'
make[3]: Entering directory `/c/code/quarkminer/compat'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/c/code/quarkminer/compat'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/c/code/quarkminer/compat'
make[2]: Entering directory `/c/code/quarkminer'
x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc -std=gnu99 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.  -fno-strict-aliasing -I./
compat/jansson -I/c/mingw64/include   -msse4.1 -O3 -MT minerd-quark.o -MD -MP -M
F .deps/minerd-quark.Tpo -c -o minerd-quark.o `test -f 'quark.c' || echo './'`qu
ark.c
quark.c: In function 'quarkhash':
quark.c:95:13: warning: assignment discards 'const' qualifier from pointer targe
t type [enabled by default]
quark.c:124:13: warning: right shift count >= width of type [enabled by default]

quark.c:124:13: warning: right shift count >= width of type [enabled by default]

quark.c:124:13: warning: right shift count >= width of type [enabled by default]

quark.c:124:13: warning: right shift count >= width of type [enabled by default]

mv -f .deps/minerd-quark.Tpo .deps/minerd-quark.Po
x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc -std=gnu99  -msse4.1 -O3   -o minerd.exe minerd-cpu-miner
.o minerd-util.o minerd-sha2.o minerd-sha2-arm.o minerd-sha2-x86.o minerd-sha2-x
64.o minerd-scrypt.o minerd-scrypt-arm.o minerd-scrypt-x86.o minerd-scrypt-x64.o
 minerd-quark.o minerd-grso.o -L/c/mingw64/lib -lcurl -lwldap32 -lws2_32 compat/
jansson/libjansson.a -lpthread -lws2_32
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `grsoTransform'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.text+0x1170): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.text+0x3d0): multiple definition of `grsoOutputTransforma
tion'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.text+0x7d0): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x0): multiple definition of `grsoT7'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x70): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x800): multiple definition of `grsoT6'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x870): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x1000): multiple definition of `grsoT5'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x1070): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x1800): multiple definition of `grsoT4'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x1870): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x2000): multiple definition of `grsoT3'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x2070): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x2800): multiple definition of `grsoT2'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x2870): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x3000): multiple definition of `grsoT1'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x3070): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x3800): multiple definition of `grsoT0'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x3870): first defined here
collect2.exe: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [minerd.exe] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/c/code/quarkminer'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/c/code/quarkminer'
make: *** [all] Error 2


Makefile.am must have "grso.c" added to "minerd_SOURCES", it shouldn't be there. At least some of the functions can get in-lined and confuse the compiler less, if all compiled at once.

quark.c just #includes "bunch of .c file". it shouldn't be also made separately. Anyway, you're log shows that it is brought in from #includes and compiled separate.

Edit Makefile.am, run autogen.sh, "make distclean", configure with CFLAGS, and make.

I know someone else had posted windows builds. I don't have a working system to test it, would require setting up probably cygwin...  I can try it all out in a vm, but i wouldn't optimize around it.
full member
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September 08, 2013, 11:27:38 PM

10,000 QRK sent
let me know you got it?

never know, may buy you a car one day!
if quark gets to $1 each one day

btw, is the image on a transaperent background? would be cool to have a couple different sizes if possible so people can maybe use on their sites
couple smaller maybe, one bigger
no worries if too much hassle, appreciate work
Thanks, transfer received!
$1 Quark is not such a fantasy, we have a sound base and community support will build.
Unable to upload full size for some strange reason, links to the others follow:
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae214/promethium00/Quark-Rotating-240x180_zps12b5ea6e.gif
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae214/promethium00/Quark-Rotating-160x120_zps6171c597.gif
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae214/promethium00/Quark-Rotating-80x60_zps5e139fcc.gif
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae214/promethium00/Quark-Rotating-32x24_zps0f0d8d49.gif


Cheers.

this looks awesome! is it free to for anyone to use now? Smiley
Use and distribute as you see fit.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
September 08, 2013, 11:07:16 PM
be nice to get uncle_bobs newest git code to work.. GCC on windows throws compiler errors. *STILL

can ANYONE get it to build ?

this is the best code base ? or should i go with the other one ?

here is my build log..

Code:
$ make
make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/c/code/quarkminer'
Making all in compat
make[2]: Entering directory `/c/code/quarkminer/compat'
Making all in jansson
make[3]: Entering directory `/c/code/quarkminer/compat/jansson'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/c/code/quarkminer/compat/jansson'
make[3]: Entering directory `/c/code/quarkminer/compat'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/c/code/quarkminer/compat'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/c/code/quarkminer/compat'
make[2]: Entering directory `/c/code/quarkminer'
x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc -std=gnu99 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.  -fno-strict-aliasing -I./
compat/jansson -I/c/mingw64/include   -msse4.1 -O3 -MT minerd-quark.o -MD -MP -M
F .deps/minerd-quark.Tpo -c -o minerd-quark.o `test -f 'quark.c' || echo './'`qu
ark.c
quark.c: In function 'quarkhash':
quark.c:95:13: warning: assignment discards 'const' qualifier from pointer targe
t type [enabled by default]
quark.c:124:13: warning: right shift count >= width of type [enabled by default]

quark.c:124:13: warning: right shift count >= width of type [enabled by default]

quark.c:124:13: warning: right shift count >= width of type [enabled by default]

quark.c:124:13: warning: right shift count >= width of type [enabled by default]

mv -f .deps/minerd-quark.Tpo .deps/minerd-quark.Po
x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc -std=gnu99  -msse4.1 -O3   -o minerd.exe minerd-cpu-miner
.o minerd-util.o minerd-sha2.o minerd-sha2-arm.o minerd-sha2-x86.o minerd-sha2-x
64.o minerd-scrypt.o minerd-scrypt-arm.o minerd-scrypt-x86.o minerd-scrypt-x64.o
 minerd-quark.o minerd-grso.o -L/c/mingw64/lib -lcurl -lwldap32 -lws2_32 compat/
jansson/libjansson.a -lpthread -lws2_32
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `grsoTransform'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.text+0x1170): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.text+0x3d0): multiple definition of `grsoOutputTransforma
tion'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.text+0x7d0): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x0): multiple definition of `grsoT7'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x70): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x800): multiple definition of `grsoT6'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x870): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x1000): multiple definition of `grsoT5'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x1070): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x1800): multiple definition of `grsoT4'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x1870): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x2000): multiple definition of `grsoT3'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x2070): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x2800): multiple definition of `grsoT2'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x2870): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x3000): multiple definition of `grsoT1'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x3070): first defined here
minerd-grso.o:grso.c:(.rdata+0x3800): multiple definition of `grsoT0'
minerd-quark.o:quark.c:(.rdata+0x3870): first defined here
collect2.exe: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [minerd.exe] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/c/code/quarkminer'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/c/code/quarkminer'
make: *** [all] Error 2

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