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Topic: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade - page 410. (Read 1031025 times)

legendary
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August 18, 2013, 01:45:20 PM
@Neisklar: still waiting for a true p2pool src Tongue are you working on it or is this no goal?
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August 18, 2013, 01:38:12 PM
Please read the entire p2pool entry in the wiki linked above.

But in short:

We have 3 difficulties/targets:

1) Target for Block: The Network difficulty, the highest of all three.
2) Target for a share: mostly the same as in other pools: The amount of shares calculates you reward. (Lower than network target, retargets so that the entire p2pool generates a share around every 15 seconds.
3) Target for your miner: That is even lower, So the pool eseential 'lies' to your miner. That has a practical reason, the pool has a better way to get you hashrate. This means the 'shares' you submit aren't all the shares that count as reals shares.

Edit: current share diff is: 0.113370, and fake diff is 0.008985

For reward calculation the last n shares are used: n= 5750 pool shares or the average work to solve 30 blocks (whichever is smaller).

In the statistics page all solved blocks are linked to the blockexplorer, so you can look who gets how much.

BTW:there are some ways to change the fake and share diff buy adding something values on the username, i can't currently find that info, so i will edit in in later.

Edit:
you can add a value with '+' at the end of your username, to set the fake diff to that value.
you can add a value with '/' at the end of your username, to set the share diff.

That / setting is good for highpower miners, since that keeps the share-diff in the network low.

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August 18, 2013, 12:49:49 PM
No, this is not a new qt wallet, only a standalone miner that mines more efficiently than the miner built into the qt wallet. You keep your current qt wallet application and wallet.dat file the same.

See this thread for using the miner on the p2pool:

http://forum.quarkcoin.org/Thread-Quark-Mining-Pool-Creation-Needed?pid=74#pid74


It's basically:
Code:
minerd_xyz.exe [b]-a quark[/b] -t -o http://176.221.46.81:8372 [b]-u [/b]

To get some more details about your speed add an -H

This pool takes cucrrently 3% fee, which you can verify yourself:
http://176.221.46.81:8372/fee

Please also inform you about how p2pool works, esp about that fake difficulty:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool#Payout_logic
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool#Frequently_Asked_Questions

----snip---

Putting the hash_init-stuff outside of the loop isn't gaining anthing in cpuminer Sad

I am a P2Pool newbie and I have a problem using this pool. I have a machine running at 1000khash/s, but the payout is very unstable. I am getting the "accepted" messages almost every minute. However, sometimes I get zero payout for a few dozen minutes, and my address is even not listed on the pool website during this period Angry

I have this issue on both Windows (use the precompiled w64 binary) and Archlinux machines. Is it normal? Perhaps I don't understand the P2Pool payout logic correctly???

Any help will be greatly appreciated! Smiley
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August 18, 2013, 10:33:24 AM
Just wanted to report back. Left a VPS on for 10 hours mining and got 6 blocks, I mined with the CPU miner for 5 hours and only got 1 block. Interesting thing is that I got some odd debug outputs with -H added but got a higher hash-rate.

Please remember that now the difficulty (200+) is much higher than before (~100)...
legendary
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August 17, 2013, 08:20:53 PM
Just found a block with the new miner. Cheesy
Oh nice, gratz!
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August 17, 2013, 04:28:47 PM
So what does this mean when -H is added:

Hash:   0000005ecbfa21bbe690a9467424cfe6282e5387ab6ff50b5e9d89a89c1f7eed
Target: 0000000181fe0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[2013-08-17 20:42:19] DEBUG: hash > target (false positive)
Hash:   000000aa5d6b11e1b603c5add952188f2b50c566f3cc0aeafcbc9dc89f3d1a26
Target: 0000000181fe0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[2013-08-17 20:42:38] DEBUG: hash > target (false positive)
Hash:   000000957e7b92f87ae5e17db8732fdcfe921afbbac70e28bfd8765c1913c494
Target: 0000000181fe0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

??

It's some debug output, i used to see during the tests if anything goes the right way.

You can even omit the -H since even without you should see speed messages.
IF you want it quit, and only print out accepted/rejected and global speed usw -Q

Also, why doesn't my address show up in the pool? http://176.221.46.81:8372/static/

I have 4/4 shared accepted.  Huh

Please read about the workings of p2pool and especially the fake difficulty.
The links are somewhat up in one of my posts, or look in the bitcoin wiki

Edit: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2948763
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August 17, 2013, 02:41:59 PM
For those wanting to know where their processor will be in terms of how fast, here's some stats:

...snip...

I think higher GHz, more khash you'll get.
Also, on Linux:

cat /proc/cpuinfo

Even more important: 64bit miner!
Roughly double speed.
My older Core2 Laptop Windows doubled its speed, as well as an Xeon CPU running Ubuntu

@neisklar, is the p2pool source @ github? want to run one localy Wink

Not yet, that needs definatly some workover as i have hundreds of ourcommented debugging lines in it. That hardwiring of the DONATION_SCRIPT into the code and !!! into the validation of the p2pool's internally blockchain !!! was hard to get. But is/was a clever thing. If you wan't to join an existing p2pool network you can't change that DONATION_SCRIPT, since then for that p2pool note the blockchain would be invalid...
sr. member
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August 17, 2013, 01:42:02 PM
Thanks, I got it to work. I didn't see the README. How do you know when you've found a block?
Code:
accepted: 1/1 (100.00%), 896.91 khash/s (yay!!!)

I have compiled in Linux and used the precompiled windows versions here, and they are abysmally slow for me.  On a single core, the wallet gives me 120Kh/s.  The cpuminer version gives me about 6Kh/s.  I've tried the AVX and AVX2 versions on both Ivy-Bridge and Haswell Xeons to no avail.  Using no options on the command line, and --benchmark gives me the same slow h/s.  Any ideas?

Make sure you have -a quark added to the line that runs minerd.

I knew I was missing something simple, what's your qrk address, let me hook you up with some coins!
legendary
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August 17, 2013, 01:26:03 PM
Price too low  Sad

Meh, it's better than .000001 or .0000015 which it was at earlier.
Meh, meh, you're somewhat right.
legendary
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August 17, 2013, 01:18:27 PM
Price too low  Sad
sr. member
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August 17, 2013, 01:03:49 PM
Thanks, I got it to work. I didn't see the README. How do you know when you've found a block?
Code:
accepted: 1/1 (100.00%), 896.91 khash/s (yay!!!)

I have compiled in Linux and used the precompiled windows versions here, and they are abysmally slow for me.  On a single core, the wallet gives me 120Kh/s.  The cpuminer version gives me about 6Kh/s.  I've tried the AVX and AVX2 versions on both Ivy-Bridge and Haswell Xeons to no avail.  Using no options on the command line, and --benchmark gives me the same slow h/s.  Any ideas?
legendary
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August 17, 2013, 12:16:01 PM
Thanks, I got it to work. I didn't see the README. How do you know when you've found a block?
Code:
accepted: 1/1 (100.00%), 896.91 khash/s (yay!!!)
legendary
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August 17, 2013, 11:37:47 AM
What the heck... I can't get it to compile. I have all the needed requirements like gcc, build, etc.

When I go to do make or anything else, all I get is error. Tried this on the github and source code .zip
 
How do I get this to work?  Huh
autoconf, libcurl4-openssl-dev missing Wink

Same errors...

azure@yourofl:~$ cd cpuminer-2.3.2-quarkcoin-src-dist
azure@yourofl:~/cpuminer-2.3.2-quarkcoin-src-dist$ cd cpuminer-2.3.2-quarkcoin-src-dist
azure@yourofl:~/cpuminer-2.3.2-quarkcoin-src-dist/cpuminer-2.3.2-quarkcoin-src-dist$ make
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
azure@yourofl:~/cpuminer-2.3.2-quarkcoin-src-dist/cpuminer-2.3.2-quarkcoin-src-dist$ ./configure CFLAGS="-O3"
-bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
azure@yourofl:~/cpuminer-2.3.2-quarkcoin-src-dist/cpuminer-2.3.2-quarkcoin-src-dist$

That is from the .zip source, not github. I have everything installed (autoconf, libcurl4-openssl-dev) etc.  Huh
well, there is a README file, are you unable to read?
hero member
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August 17, 2013, 11:35:51 AM
chmod a+x autogen.sh
./autogen.sh

Do these two things first (has been posted above  Tongue).
legendary
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August 17, 2013, 11:23:38 AM
What the heck... I can't get it to compile. I have all the needed requirements like gcc, build, etc.

When I go to do make or anything else, all I get is error. Tried this on the github and source code .zip
 
How do I get this to work?  Huh
autoconf, libcurl4-openssl-dev missing Wink
legendary
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August 17, 2013, 10:54:34 AM
@neisklar, is the p2pool source @ github? want to run one localy Wink
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August 17, 2013, 09:26:58 AM
diff highest today for a while, faster mining with cpu miner or more miners getting involved?

Also can someone confirm to back up quarks all you need to do is make a copy of the wallet.dat like with the scrypt coins? Some people are saying that is not sufficient with this coin?

Can the cpuminer be used to solo mine?  I will try some on the pool and some solo to compare.

good questions that need an answer
giving a bump


Personally i think the higher diff is also due to faster mining software, and hopefully more interest with all the new stuff in the last days Smiley

Edit: to slow, but i leave it

Yes backing up your wallet.dat should be sufficent enough. Basically only the private key (from which a single address is then computed) is all that matters. If you have that private key, you can spend that money. You can also dump all private keys, print them to a sheet of paper, and put it in a safe place. (Note that new created addresses after the backup are not included).
I currently have the idea greatly inspired by amory to create a coin independent private key generator with deterministic behavior like amory.
That means you just have to secure one single (than longer) key somewhere on paper in a safe place, and ALL your privated keys you generate with that tool are safe, as they can always be regenerated by that one master-backup.

Of course you can solo mine. Thats what i did a while to test the minerd code.
You need to enable your wallet (quarkcoin-qt) to act as a "rpc-server"

Edit your quarkcoin.conf file, located (Win) %APPDATA%\Quarkcoin, or (Linux) ~/.quarkcoin
And add/modify the following entries:
(of course you can change user/pass and port the way you like)
Code:
server=1
rpcuser=rpcuser
rpcpassword=rpcpass
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcport=8910

Then you can use the minerd like (out of the mind, not tested):
Code:
minerd.exe -a quark -o localhost:8910 -u rpcuser -p rpcpass

If you have multiple machines, you don't need the wallet on every computer. Just add additional lines with rpcallowip and point the remote miners to the IP the wallet is on.
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August 17, 2013, 09:21:32 AM
Also can someone confirm to back up quarks all you need to do is make a copy of the wallet.dat like with the scrypt coins? Some people are saying that is not sufficient with this coin?

wallet.dat is sufficient.

Can the cpuminer be used to solo mine?  I will try some on the pool and some solo to compare.

yes it should work, just point it at your wallet's rpc port, e.g. http://127.0.0.1:8811/ instead of at the pool.
legendary
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August 17, 2013, 08:50:49 AM
diff highest today for a while, faster mining with cpu miner or more miners getting involved?

Also can someone confirm to back up quarks all you need to do is make a copy of the wallet.dat like with the scrypt coins? Some people are saying that is not sufficient with this coin?

Can the cpuminer be used to solo mine?  I will try some on the pool and some solo to compare.

good questions that need an answer
giving a bump
legendary
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August 17, 2013, 08:38:27 AM
diff highest today for a while, faster mining with cpu miner or more miners getting involved?

Also can someone confirm to back up quarks all you need to do is make a copy of the wallet.dat like with the scrypt coins? Some people are saying that is not sufficient with this coin?

Can the cpuminer be used to solo mine?  I will try some on the pool and some solo to compare.
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